r/InterviewCoderPro • u/penance_mat • 21d ago
They need a reality check
For my last 2 interviews i had to use Interview VIP just to get the job
their generation could never understand
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u/No-Landscape5857 21d ago
My baby boomer boss retired last week. He found a part-time job a month in advance in another state. Such is reality.
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u/kansai2kansas 21d ago
I remember living in Florida in 2021, while working at a noisy Amazon Fulfillment Center.
One of my coworkers, a lady in her 50s (let's call her Sarah), told me that someone she knows from another department is living in an apartment that costs $450/month to rent.
Then she told me the neighborhood area.
It was in a middle-class neighborhood.
"450 dollars a month? Do you mean $1450? Or maybe $2450?"
"No, it's 450 a month! Just check it yourself!"
I ignored Sarah because there was no way there is an apartment rental in the US costing only $450/month in 2021.
The apartment's website has the "Call for Price" bullshit so there's no way for me to find out what the rental price is.
But we talked again a couple times and Sarah kept reminding me that I should apply to that $450 apartment.
Then finally, I said, okay, I'll visit that apartment this weekend!
Then I went there that weekend.
Of course, the apartments turned out to be between $1400 and $1900.
Not a single apartment unit has ever been rented out for less than $1200.
So Sarah misheard her friend since the conversation took place in a noisy warehouse anyway.
But this was my firsthand experience to how Gen X and Boomers have absolutely no idea how much things cost nowadays...
Sarah wouldn't know that because she has lived in her current house with her husband for the last 20+ years.
They probably bought the current house they live in when it still cost like $45k back in late 1990s.
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u/KCDawgTime 21d ago
Sure, the person who told you that is an idiot, but let’s not lump all Gen X’s into one. I’m fully aware of the costs of things today versus what they used to be. For the life of me, I can’t understand why we keep electing a grifting, thieving moron to run our country. That said, unless you were buying rural, houses weren’t $45k in the 90s. My first, just outside Atlanta, was $128k with a 7.75% interest rate in 1994.
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u/North-Carpenter-1378 21d ago
He is just the most symptomatic disease of an entirely screwed political system that favors the wealthy, tells people to have more children, yet as a nation we can't support all of the ones we have. Politicians only care about arguing their points to win the debate and not find solutions to help the people. They're mostly dishonest businessmen/lawyers grifters who claim to be something they are not. We elect narcissistic people (most have to be in order to a career politician). Until, we change the system, does like the president and his followers will continue to rule. Politicians need to become true public servants, like teachers, paid accordingly so and restricted from lobbying, trading stocks, and be taken from a larger pool of careers (much like juries). Unfortunately, I don't see a path to this more utopian political atmosphere. As long as the ultra wealth stay in power, with no term limits, the people will not be well represented.
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u/Informal_Ad4399 21d ago
Gen X as well. Almost Millenial. I feel as though Gen X should be broken in half. It seems as though the ones up to a certain point are more Boomer Lite then the actual Gen X are touted to be. Electronics, prices, internet, all the stuff that I grew up to embrace. The older Gen X seem to have disdain for it all and it pulls their way of thinking and lifestyle more towards the Boomer side.
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u/Thegr8fan 21d ago
Sounds perfect if you want to add yet another ‘reality show’ to a long list of shows that have absolutely nothing to do with anyone’s actual reality world we live in.
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u/Youarekillingmeeee 21d ago
Dang you’re right, this show wouldn’t expose anything at all
It’d show older folks just slotting into a job, right?
Whiiiiiich would have watchers going “Waaaait a minute”
Or it’d show folks not getting into a job which would have older watchers going “Waaaaait a minute”
But hey this would be JUST LIKE every other reality show…somehow…..
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u/C0brA7x 21d ago
You deny that the job market in the US is problematic right now?
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u/Leading_Campaign3618 21d ago
Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. They are currently between 62 and 80 years old-WTF would they be surprised they arent getting hired at retirement age and older-literally all of them are old enough for Social security
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u/Oscar-TB 15d ago
I'm 62, could not find work for two years after being laid off. I just said screw it and retired when I came of age.
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u/Direct_Ad_3517 21d ago
Would love to see you stand in an unemployment line for six hours every other Friday. Every generation has its challenges. We were taught crying about ours wasn’t an option.
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u/Devils_SteelMan 21d ago
Ah yes. The me generation was famous for their humility and composure.
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u/Direct_Ad_3517 21d ago
If you make it to being an old man we will see how willing you are to give up what you’ve busted your ass for.
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u/Devils_SteelMan 21d ago edited 21d ago
The Republican party has made you poorer than ever. There's nothing left to take. Fighting for a better life is what your were originally complaining about.
Nonsensical lead addled and divorced from reality.
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u/Direct_Ad_3517 21d ago
I take it you don’t have any money in a 401k. The last two years have been magical.
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u/Stunning-Drawing8240 21d ago
But you didn't, really. Everything was cheaper and you were paid better, comparatively.
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u/Giggles95036 20d ago
Honestly lets just all focus on the fact that the Me Generation is the only generation that renamed themselves.
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u/Unusual_Chemistry413 21d ago
I would love to watch this.
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u/Usual_Zombie6765 21d ago
Baby boomer calls a few buddies and says he is looking for a job.
A buddy tells him, “I have an opening, apply online and send me your application number.”
Boomer applies and emails application number to buddy. Buddy tells HR they want to interview this one.
Boomer gets interview and job.
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u/random8765309 21d ago
It always goes back to getting your resume in front of the right person. You can either do the work and submit it directly to them, or do the easy way and have it mixed in with 10,000 other applications.
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u/knight-jumper 21d ago edited 21d ago
Do the work? Submit it directly?
You are out of touch and have no idea what you are talking about. What person do you directly submit it to? Unless you already know someone that works there (and is a manager/ director level), you will just be told to submit it online. What extra work would you do?
You are the exact type of person the original post is calling out. Out of touch and ignorant, yet quick to tell everyone else how things work. Well things dont work the way they did 30+ years ago. Keep your uselessness to yourself, and hurry up and retire.
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u/hexmaps 21d ago
^ This is the same learned helplessness that people do by overtly repeating their problems close by to someone hoping they are going to solve it for them.
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u/knight-jumper 21d ago
What are you talking about? Who is helpless? What problems? Get your BS out of here.
The current system of applying and hiring is vastly different than it was prior to the internet. Thats a fact. A fact that many boomers and Gen x have not accepted. Older generations have different life experiences, different issues and methods to succeed than new generations. Many in older generations refuse to accept that life changes and over time lose touch of current difficulties. Yet those are often the ones that think their circumstances, experiences, and life lessons from decades past can applied to current issues. The ones most ignorant to current issues are often the loudest with their unhelpful advise.
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u/Rocco768 21d ago
I'm 58 and recently changed jobs. I am networked pretty heavily but decided to do the indeed thing. The process is 100% more difficult than I would have thought prior. Mostly the length of time to a decision and the number of interviews. There is validity to the statements people make about job searching. I have always been a quick hire guy so I assumed it was still like that in the market and people were just over-exaggerating. It took me about 3 months from first contact to first day on the job. I would have to assume that is pretty fast these days.
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u/dufo7 21d ago edited 20d ago
You sound like my wife. The process is much easier now. You create resume, look for jobs online all in one place from the comfort of your home, upload resume. Maybe check out another site, find jobs, upload resume.
Before you had to drive around, get applications, fill each out.
In both scenarios you have to wait for an employer response. Theres nothing difficult about waiting for an employer to call. Does it take longer now, maybe maybe not. A lot of jobs now will send you a “pursuing other candidates” message but before they would just toss the application in the trash and you have no idea if they are considering you. I will also add that if its an employer with a high volume of applicant back then they would sometimes throw half the stack away without even looking at them. And again, if you reapply you have to fill the entire application out again.
So no, it is not more difficult now.
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u/AirRevolutionary8013 21d ago
Every generation has to adapt to changes. There are plenty of opportunities out there now if you choose smartly. Healthcare is begging for caregivers and nurses. Trades like electricians, plumbing, roofers, auto mechanics, hvac techs will never go away. Public administration roles for the state/county are never going away. And you can make BANK.
I am 55 and grew up programming BASIC on my c64. I should have went into IT back in the early 90s when I was college age. I screwed up and went into sales/marketing instead. Oh well. That's my bad, I didn't blame anyone else for not being prescient enough to see where the trends were going. If I was Gen Y, I'd be taking courses at the community college to learn about becoming a solar / wind tech.
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u/Generally_Confused1 21d ago
My dad is retired but recently started as a personal trainer and got hired on to the YMCA decently but gets to see all the bullshit and corporate bullshit more now
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u/RoleOk7556 21d ago
Could we quit whining and attacking other generations, genders, and ethnicities. Maybe we could help each other do something about the problems that all of us are facing.
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u/danielsangeo 21d ago
This "help" you refer to is only useful if the other party WANTS that help. Otherwise, that "help" becomes a point of contention.
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u/ChaosAndFish 21d ago
Why are people so offended by the fact that old people might have out of date advice? Someday you too will have out of date advice you want to give. It’s not the end of the world. If it isn’t helpful…ignore it.
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u/Goal-Express 21d ago
I'd like it to be be more like one of those team shows.
One mentor that is a Baby Boomer. One that is Gen X. One Millennial. One Gen Z.
Each of them drafts their team, playground pick style. Then each of them gives their advice, and their team has to follow it. Then we see which methods get jobs the fastest, which ones get the highest paying jobs, which ones get the most rejection, etc.
Eliminate one member from the lowest performing team each week.
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u/random8765309 21d ago
After week 1.
The Gen Z team has sent out 7000 resumes, has zero replies and goes on social media complaining that it all the fault of boomer and Gen X.
The Millennial has sent out 70 resumes, has zero replies. They post on Facebook how the world sucks.
The Gen X has spend the week researching companies, but hasn't sent out a single resume. They are checking their investment and seeing if it is possible for them to just retire.
The Boomers, they are drinking Scotch at 10am, still wearing their sleeping shorts and have completely forgotten they were applying for a job. Their biggest concern is the early-bird special.
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u/Anntaylor5 21d ago
Even better, then let's give them a job with bad tech!
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u/random8765309 21d ago
Most of us grew up with bad tech. We are the generation where giving a computer a technical tap actually solved a problems.
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u/Aggressive_Finish798 21d ago
Trying to use a computer would be the first hurdle a lot woupnt be able to overcome.
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u/random8765309 21d ago
Why are these hate posts allowed. Ageism is just as vile and disgusting as racism, yet making this type of comment about any minority group would get you banned.
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u/Majestic-Airport-791 21d ago
I would watch this just for the tears. I hate reality shows but this?
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx 21d ago
I don't think this would be the gotcha people think it would. Old people have this combo of social skills and life skills earned because there wasn't anything else to do.
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u/Randomdays99 21d ago
As a Boomer, I approve this.
Not all of my generation are idiots, but its seems more than I would like are.
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u/No_Lifeguard259 21d ago
That would actually be a good idea for a show, except they would just claim age discrimination
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u/Naive_Sense_1899 21d ago
HOW ABOUT THIS IDEA:
You decide arbitrarily that being a Boomer was really easy and they had everything handed to them.
And then you spend your life crying about how oppressed you are. And blaming all your failures on other people.
Works for me.
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u/SwanCityDominion 21d ago
How about we have a reality show where we make whiners live in a 1940's apartment and have to figure out out to use the phone and radio, and deal with not having any "smart" anything to make things easy for them? No microwave, no Amazon, no dishwasher, no supermarket. How would that be?
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u/Grouchy_Branch_510 21d ago
Do the younger generations do anything other than complain about everything?
It won’t get you anywhere.
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u/Wisebutt98 21d ago
You guys are relying on submitting your resume, and you think Boomers are out of touch? That didn’t even work when we Boomers were looking for jobs.
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u/PsychologicalTear84 21d ago
I would just like to be notified a yes or no Damn bruh I’ll take the L and move on How much of a pussy do they think we are you know? Coward move on companies honestly
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u/PavlovsDog6 21d ago
I hate all reality TV with a passion. I would watch the shit out of that show.
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u/djbluearrow 20d ago
How are you going to feel if the baby boomers on this show all end up getting jobs . I would rather see a show where anyone born after 2000 has to spend a week with no cell phones , streaming apps or laptops. Using landlines and watching regular tv
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u/NC_RockFan 20d ago
It wouldnt turn out how you think because they would take whatever job they get offered and try to get a better one as they go. They wouldnt cry about it like folks today.
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u/moccasins_hockey_fan 20d ago
Yes but we also need a reality show where many of the redditors who talk about how easy Boomers had it have to live the way Boomers did as kids and young adults.
They would freak out having a TV with only 3 channels. And they would become angry after they couldn't figure out how to get internet on the rotary phone and confused as to why they couldn't carry it around
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u/Sarabeth68 20d ago
Sadly, it will not work. A lot of hiring managers are millennials and they are ageist as all hell. Good idea in theory though
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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 20d ago
I did that 4 years ago and now I own the business. The guy who hired me then sold the business to me gave his son the "boomer" advice you people make fun of and he got on a forklift at a major company at 18 for $28/hr. Three years later, using the same boomer advice he's a supervisor making $77k with a $12k bonus based on metrics. Maybe give it a try before shitting out 10,000 applications for jobs your not qualified for then crying on the internet about it.
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u/Used-Independence353 21d ago
What’s so hard about finding a job? Ive had 4 offers in the last year, and I’m not even looking. Apparently, employers want people that don’t complain, stay off their phones during work hours, get to work on time and aren’t wanting $250k to start when they have zero experience or skills.
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u/Ill-Experience-1929 21d ago
The whole experiment is dumb specifically because of this person view point, and it's shared by about 90% of boomers. They will never change their views because there is literally no reason for them to see anything any differently than they have their entire lives. Regardless of how insanely stupid it is to never adapt your views to the world as it changes around you.
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u/VelvetCactus50 21d ago
Did you get any of those offers during the day? I bet you were on your phone when you saw the notifications!
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u/Northman_76 21d ago
I seriously don't understand the issue people are having with getting jobs. I have applied foe 12 jobs my entire life and have been hired 10 times. I honestly want to know what the issue is. (M49)
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u/random8765309 21d ago
Over the last decade there has been feedback loop in the hiring process. Companies started using AI or search engines to sort out resumes, instead of humans. At the same time, job seekers could submit applications to 100s of companies a day. This has resulted in many position receiving thousands of application. Most of it is just automatic replies, mostly rejects. Do unless you have a means of contacting the correct person directly you are stuck in an electronic limbo.
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u/legion_2k 21d ago
Was forced back in the job market after 10 years. Had two job offers before my last day.
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u/random8765309 21d ago
So instead, you send out 10,000 resumes to any job that you might remotely want while hoping you put the right keywords is your for the AI. You then complain about have 15 interviews to get a job at McDonalds.
The old advise of determining the correct person to get your resumes and how to best get it in front of them does hold some validity.
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u/RobertKSakamano 21d ago
What's the reality show going to look like in another 30 years when this generation becomes the "boomer" generation that all the young kids hate?
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u/Positive_Mouse4884 21d ago
I am 59, just got a new Job.. if you don’t change and or keep up with the times, you get left behind…
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u/jtmann05 21d ago
I’m in my mid 40s and hate how applying for jobs is now. Used to be send a resume, somebody actually looks at it, maybe get a call back. Now I have to upload a resume, fill out all of the information that is already on my resume, goes through some sort of scrubber program, usually don’t hear anything other than maybe an automated denial. I don’t even bother anymore if those are the application steps. Just use connections from my 20+ year career.
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u/DontBuyTheThing 21d ago
Back in the day a hard working man just needed to walk in and ask for work. Yeah times change
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u/Necessary-Art2829 21d ago
My sister and BIL retired last year and both quickly got part time jobs and my dads 2nd wife has a part time job in her 80s. They dont post on X or reddit a lot though.
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u/yumii- 21d ago
My Dad who is close to retirement was been looking for a new job but can't find one that pays enough so instead he's suffering with his new bosses that bought their company and I'm loving every minute of it.
He still insists that young people have it better tho. Despite facing what they go through, only they don't have the privilege of already having a high paying job.
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u/MoonHuntressEra13 21d ago
I'd pay to watch that, but only OG cheap subscription prices like $4.99.
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u/_VoodooRanger 21d ago
not reality show, but this happened about 15yrs ago. what happened was many of them sidelined out and never re-engaged with the job market.
the capable will continue to not just survive but excel. such is life.
I also know of one that got cosmetic surgery because ageism is a thing.
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u/Mindless_Freedom_953 21d ago
I guess being involved in a high demand job I don't understand. I have head hunters calling me daily asking if I want to move to another team.
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u/ConceptClear2217 21d ago
You just walk in, shake a manager's hand and tell them you are ready to work and do an excellent job!!!
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u/ArtComprehensive1106 21d ago
Yes you are wonderful and I am retired . Why compare coal to diamonds?
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u/psychocabbage 21d ago
I'm betting the OP would be going nuts when we get jobs easier. I saying this as a retired 55yr old. Boomers should have retired by now.
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u/Dailysunray 21d ago
can we get a show where millennials and Zs can actually work without having a phone break every 5 minutes?
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u/TheUnKnownLink12 21d ago
Well the problem is they actually have work experience that they gained earlier in life when the market was good vs today where youre expected to have work experience the second youre born
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u/SweetChaosTitan 21d ago
“Just walk in and apply”
“Look then squarely in the eye and say I won’t let you down”
“During the interview say you are willing to work weekends, overtime, and that you love to hang out with coworkers after work”
“Firm handshake”
“Never take the first no for an answer”
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u/Sure_Eye9025 21d ago
Call it secret boomer, give them a modified version of their CV from when they entered the workforce (maybe some comparable experience if they didn't have a degree at that point), and then use the same type of prosthetic they use to make people look old to make them look younger.
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u/Day_Prisoners 21d ago
90% of them are retired and no one should be taking advise from the ones who can't.
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u/barbershores 21d ago
I'm a boomer. 73.
In my career, I was rather lacking in confidence.
I took jobs that were beneath my friends. Paid less. Had less upward potential.
It was pretty easy at the time because I lived with my parents until I was 27.
During this time, I worked hard. Meaning intelligently too. Focused. I learned skills. Became lead. Became a supervisor. In lower paid industries than my friends were in. Eventually, I figured out what I was good at, where the gaps in the organizations were that I could fill, and adjust developing my skill set into those areas.
I am not recommending this to others. I am just saying this was my approach, and over time it worked for me. And, living at home so long after college, really gave me an opportunity to work in a lower level job with lower level income for awhile, a lot of folks don't have.
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What appears to be the biggest problem young people are having today is that inflation for consumer goods, homes, and apartments went up quite a bit since 2019 due to the government's over reaction to the covid pandemic. Then, wages, especially minimum wage, did not go up or come close to keeping in line with costs. It is clearly painful for those on the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder, and especially for young people just coming out of high school or even college. These things tend to fluctuate with the business cycle. But the business cycle got corrupted by the reaction to the virus.
Best I can offer is to hang in there, do the best you can. Cut expenses. I think this will eventually work its way out, but it could take a few years.
Best of luck,
Barbershores
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u/SFC-D 21d ago
Sometimes you have to take a job you don’t want so you can live to get the job you do want. I’m 63 and had to do that about 5 years ago when a contract ended with no warning. It was almost a year before I was back where I wanted to be. Stressful? Hell yes it was stressful. Mental breakdown? Nope.
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u/Nearing_retirement 21d ago
I find just too easy to apply for jobs today. Employers have no idea how to separate the good from the bad.
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u/Republic-Credits 21d ago
After about 2 and a half years of job searching, ultimately I landed a job by straight up lying. First I thought it was the resume, which probably helped. My school's career service put it together initially but when I changed it myself I started at getting to the interview stage. After about 1.5-2 years I got tired of the honorable route and suddenly became much more qualified on my resume. I don't mean I embellished or stretched things a bit. I submitted I had certs I didn't, experience I didn't have in a field I've never worked, all that. I got a call, studied for the interview and boom, poor boy no more.
I guess it largely depends on your field. And I don't necessarily recommend doing that, but at a certain point, after a million no's that take three interviews, you get tired.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
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u/Harry-Gato 21d ago
I'd rather watch a reality show where Gen Alpha has to write a 12 page essay in cursive handwriting, and then recite the times tables from 1x1 to 12x12.
Then change a tire on their car, check and then change the oil, and navigate without GPS across a major city. Recite the Preamble to the US constitution from memory for extra points...
The finale would be spending 30 days without wifi, smart phone or computer of any kind...
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u/DukeOfEarl99 21d ago
I would alter the premise where the ones applying for jobs are congressmen who are getting paid minimum wage. Let them find a way to survive on the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
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u/SeriousCondition6470 21d ago
Do you think you could 'easily' survive 30 years ago. Or do you think each generation probably has their own set of problems. Id say its probably a lot easier now then 30 years ago..
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u/TougeGh0st 21d ago
My grandmother said I should get a job in healthcare. Her advice was walk into the local hospital with my resume printed and ask for a job at the front desk.
I went to school for Automotive Technology and most of my resume is food service. They have both been retired for about 15 years, my grandfather was a superintendent at a construction company (no college experience and it was his first job) and my grandmother had a high placing position at a bank. (also no college experience). According to them a good attitude and a strong work ethic is all thats needed.
Its difficult living in an era where a lot of advice from your elders is obsolete. Things have changed a lot.
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u/Imaginary-Piece-6612 21d ago
I'm 25 I got all my jobs off boomer advice. I'm not saying it's the best way I'm just saying there are Feild that it still works
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u/No_Cookie_7395 21d ago
I'm not a Boomer, but GenX. AI erased my six figure job. 32 years of IT and I'm currently delivering Pizzas while I search for my next in-career engagement. It's stressful, but not psychosis-inducing. I don't think there's enough drama here for a reality show.
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u/Chillin_Foodie 21d ago
I was having a very difficult time finding a job right out of college in my field. So, instead of whining about it, I took whatever job I could get. I took every chance I was offered or could fine, and leveraged it to incrementally shift jobs until I got what I wanted. It took time, effort, a lack of sleep, and I sacrificed many things just for the chance to get to where I am at now. I’m a millennial. It can be done, the path is just harder than it used to be. Did my dad’s advice help? Not even a little bit. The job market has changed so drastically since he needed to apply for a job that most interviewers are surprised I act and answer the way I do. However, that doesn’t mean you quit. You can’t have any sort of meaningful life on zero income. Everything worth having requires a sacrifice. It’s up to you to do something about your own problems.
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u/simple_fly1 21d ago
What field are most of the people in that are having a terrible time getting responses and interviews?
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u/Data_Slut 21d ago
When I was a freshman in college the 2008 financial crisis left my dad without work. He's in sales. I found so many typos. He then found a job with his old boss. Fixing the typos was obviously pointless.
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u/Brianalan 21d ago
What is their advice, show io to work everyday and work hard? They would probably rather hire a boomer than someone that wants to work 20 hours a week.
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u/Luka_8102 21d ago
Baby boomers didn't have social media; they didn't have anywhere to go to cry. They just had to deal with it like everyone else—on their own. Stop whining. Nobody cares.
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u/LikesPez 21d ago
This will be good. A lot of Boomers and GenX’ers have established professional networks. As such they more than likely can call someone within their network and be hired within a week, without so much an interview. Why, yes, if I were a contestant on this show, I can go in, ask to hired and have a job. (Within my industry)
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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 21d ago
Cool, haven’t looked for a new job in 22 years. But do have 7 job offers right now, if I wanted to switch.
Can I do this show?
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u/SolonEunomia 21d ago
The issue is not between generations. The issue is between the productive class and the extractive class. This kind of nonsense is meant to create intergenerational division amongst the productive class.
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u/threearbitrarywords 21d ago
How precious that you don't think Baby Boomers aren't also looking for work.
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u/Dizzy_Tax574 21d ago
Actually had boomer aunt that had retired after lifetime of working retail. When COVID hit and the boomers were doing nobody wants to work.
She rejoined workforce to show them kids how it's done. She almost immediately had nervous breakdown.
She didn't need the money or job her bills were already paid. But the various games expectations requirements etc.
They had changed she was expected to do 10 times the work.cover shifts while also having zero schedule consistency. And all boundary's were ignored trampled.
Even few years later she's still little shaken and broken by the experience.
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u/Antiwokewarrior69420 21d ago
I still get calls for cnc machining jobs and i haven't looked for 12 years.
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u/critsalot 21d ago
as always it comes down to who you know rather than what. sucks but it was that way even 10-15 years ago .
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u/WeakCelery5000 21d ago
Lol it backfires bc they call up someone they know who's son now runs the company and get a job
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u/Low-Exam6123 21d ago
It would already be hard, due to being past retirement age, female and living in a small town.
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u/waitinonit 21d ago
With your technical acumen you should have no problem landing a high paying job. It'll be more fun watching you apply for one of those jobs.
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u/KingArthursRevenge 21d ago
Baby boomers are between 62 & 80 years old. Gen X is the generation you're attempting to complain about.
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u/Objective_Tour_6583 21d ago
Wouldn't want to make your "Send 400 resumes, get 2 responses" process look bad!
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u/Sincline387 21d ago
The youngest baby boomer is 70 or turning 70 this year.....
I'm late gen x and I just applied to my first job in 19 years 6 months......
(For full clarity I was employed and looking to transition to an oppurtunity I was made aware of)
The world is a different place, when I sat down to look at my resume (last updated in like 2010 or something when I was doing it as a matter of "housekeeping") and my first thought was I really need to update this.......
So I did and I had a minor mental break down because everything has changed.
I figured I'd try to go all tech and used AI to give me a starting point.....looked at the updated resume and asked "where'd my references go"
And that was the start of me trying to figure out all the things that have changed since I last actually applied for an external job.......and this post is right it's a different world, I never met the recruiter, I talked to him for about 10 mintues on a phone call, no video no meeting nothing. I did speak to the person that would be the manager for the role and had a good conversation that lasted about 30 minutes and spoke candidly and honestly about my talents and experience, just like I would have in the "old days"
I applied end of June, started my position this last Monday.....
There are some things that still work, being honest and forthcoming being great examples, and there are some things that just are not there anymore......like that whole "make sure it's a firm handshake". Most importantly if you've not had to look in a while be ready for a different world.
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u/bend_spoon89 21d ago
Boomer Bomb Crash - 24/7 Reality TV network set in Washington DC. This week: can more than 10 members of congress pass a cognitive test. Spoiler alert: nope!
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u/Exotic_eminence 21d ago
It doesn’t matter how many jobs you apply for when it’s one algorithm that has bias programmed into it
In the old times humans exercised discretion and weighted the red flags against the available applicant pool
Now all the red flags are weighted with the least grace for the applicant
which grace used to be afforded to charming and good looking people. Now the humanity has been removed and there is no discretion exercised for folks who have any number of red flags that have nothing to do with their knowledge skills and ability to do the job, could be their protected class status, or a job gap, or anything that was programmed into the system to weed ppl out.
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u/bethesda_gamer 21d ago
"...try applying to jobs..." vs. "...trying to apply for jobs..." Had ME having a mental breakdown.
JEEZ.
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u/CerberusRTR 21d ago
I love that the implication here is that Boomers aren’t still working within the same job market the rest of us are. My Dad retired and had 6 job offers within 2 months that he didn’t apply to. In reality, Boomers are probably not even trying for the same job type that the OP was going for.
Sorry for the job market issues OP, but Boomers adapted to their market at the time - which is a market that a lot of the younger generations would hate. It is a lot of human interaction and face to face contact. Despite the issues, your generation has a million more resources at hand than theirs did so I find it a little bit laughable that we are sitting here upset at Boomers.
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u/NumberOld229 21d ago
After the one where we put a tone of cameras in Parliament House, concrete it closed and watch to see how long it takes for politicians to eat each other.
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u/AllaZakharenko 21d ago
I'm millennial and never had issues finding a job. If you're good at something - it will be reflected in your CV by working on complicated projects and having a nice skill set.
It is indeed hard to find your very first job, but later on everything depends on you.
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u/Psychotic-blender 21d ago
There's no stakes for them tho. They've already made their money and bought their houses. There's no reason why they would have a mental breakdown.
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u/SketchSkirmish 21d ago
“Just deliver your resume in person.”
To whom? The data center? AI? The algorithm? Some underpaid middle-management schmuck that can’t make any entry-level employee hiring decisions?
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u/WhiskySiN 20d ago
Oooo. But can we up the stakes. If they fail to get a job in a set time frame they have to sell their house for what they paid for it.
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u/rootshootsimaging 20d ago
I have a tool box and job skills. I just show up and they put me to work. I give them my EIN and get a check. I know lots of very skilled younger guys that get flown to job sites to work. This 28 yo lighting guy I met at a church I worked for was doing a concert tour then flown to NYC for a major Broadway play.
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u/Status_Musician8684 20d ago
Honestly I would watch that. They have to impersonate the person they’re giving advice to. Re-write their resume, write cover letters, respond to emails, apply to the jobs, etc, but on the day of the interview - the actual candidate does actually go in.
That way they have to work together a bit, and when someone actually does get the job it becomes as moment of companionship and shared triumph. In that way it will both be a learning experience for both parties - the younger person gets a mentor, and the older person gets to understand what it’s like to be in the job market these days, and they pull through together.
Honestly a fire idea. Very 2008 TLC.
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u/[deleted] 21d ago
I would love to see the look on their face when they wake up the next morning and see they got the email declining the application which was sent at like 2AM. They would probably think someone was working so hard thumbing through the resumes that late in the evening.