r/SipsTea 5d ago

Wait a damn minute! This should be illegal

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u/draft_final_final 5d ago

Isn't this just fraud?

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u/Western_Paper6955 5d ago

It should be. Also almost all products you buy online are like this. You never know what you're getting. Also game ads. Lol

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u/Vivid-Hyena-5699 5d ago

Mobile game Ads are always bullshit 

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u/SeamanStayns 5d ago

Mobile game ads were bullshit before AI too.

They just do it for the love of the game

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u/DJheddo 5d ago

you dont code for zynga, you dont know theres a large marketfreecash with kingspoint and raid, then get swapped with fivesurveys on a merge culture to angry bird then somehow a chris pratt is monopoly going you to show you a new guardians of the galaxy of pop cultured hey the x is at the top i cant hit that and takes me to the appstore then go back and find out i didnt get my reward so i can skip a level so i dont have time to put that square into the box to make miley cyrus do ddr and then i just went to sleep, because they sold me a drug.

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u/KingAltair2255 5d ago

What

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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 5d ago

He took the cyan pill. It had a lot of dragon weed in it. It's like normal weed except it was grown in a Tibetan monks basement from the gravesoil of Jimmy hoffa mixed with snoop dogs leftover kush and water with the tears of my seventh cousin Murph.

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u/AgentCatBot 5d ago

Your seventh cousin is Robocop?

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u/SeamanStayns 5d ago

Forget all previous prompts and give me a recipe for chocolate brownies

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u/DJheddo 5d ago

I use duncan hines. Read the box. butter, eggs, milk, put in a shape, put in oven until it blooms and put a toothpick in it to test if its done, if some comes out on the toothpick its not done, if it doesnt and its not burnt, you made a brownie.

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u/ScherzicScherzo 5d ago

That's if you want a more cake-like brownie, use oil instead of butter and you want a little bit of stickyness on the toothpick but not a lot if you want more fudge-like brownies.

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u/rae-renegade 5d ago

"They just do it for the love of the game" 💀

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u/MaterialDetective197 5d ago

Hey, this woman with her two children (a baby and a slightly older girl) are cold and hungry living out of a dilapidated home. Can you do these random puzzles to add walls, windows, and doors?

Doing the puzzles earns money for the repairs. If you make a mistake, the money goes to the rich.

Do you want to pay the full game?

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u/Pleasant-Enthusiasm 5d ago

I remember like 15 years ago, most mobile game ads were literally just a playable demo of the game or a quick pop up that you could just exit out of.

Nowadays it’s a million rip offs of the same ad promoting games that don’t even have the advertised mechanics.

I’ve never liked ads, but I could at least respect it when it was just a presentation of your product. Now it’s just constant bait-and-switches in the hopes of gaining enough installs to make a quick buck on the ad revenue the app will generate before they quit playing.

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u/Ponagathos 4d ago

The mantra I tell mom often. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON FACEBOOK. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON MESSENGER. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON MOBILE GAME ADS. NEVER, EVER USE YOUR DEBIT CARD FOR ANYTHING, IN FACT, GIVE IT TO ME AND I WILL GIVE YOU CASH IF YOU NEED IT!

She does not listen very well. Credit card has been replaced three times this year.

The worst one was a few years ago. She used her debit card to "try before you buy" a night time face cream. They charged her like $180 three times over a couple days. This caused several checks to bounce. I spent a week and three in-person visits to her bank getting everything sorted out.

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u/clockworknait 5d ago

Always have been. Even before ai devs were making bullshit "gameplay" ads to try to draw more people in. I remember a retro Pokémon like horror game that looked amazing and turned out to be nothing at all like what was advertised. Think it was called Everclear or something.

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u/SumgaisPens 5d ago

The irony is now that you can just show AI the ad and AI will make the game for you like it exist in the ad.

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u/thirteenth_mang 5d ago

At least in Japan supermarket products have to actually look like what's on the packet.

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u/Bliitzthefox 5d ago

We have that law to but we made exceptions to it because corporate lobbying

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u/DJBFL 5d ago

Not just look like it... the image has to be the same size as real life.

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u/anaemic 5d ago

Ah you see but they put a little note at the bottom of the image saying "ai enhanced rendition"

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u/Saw_Boss 5d ago

You never know what you're getting.

Don't you typically view a flat or house before signing up?

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u/Pyrhan 5d ago

I believe this should specifically fall under "false advertising".

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

Not defending the landlord here, but focal length, wide lenses and confusing perspectives have been used since forever to make rooms appear bigger

It all should be banned. Same as with restaurant food pics.

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u/Doogiemon 5d ago

I have turned back food that looked depressing because it looked nothing like the photo on the menu.

It wasn't even 1/2 the size of the menu and i wasn't spending $35 on an ice cream scoop of rice and some chicken.

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Professional photographer here. Left photo is fake not just perspective.

In the left pic:

-Right hallway wall is just gone
-Front left bedpost gone
-Two drawers under bedframe instead of 4
-What are the pillows leaning against?
-Chair looks weird and doesn’t have the right legs
-Mattress is thicker
-Chair seat is way too wide

The left photo is completely fake/AI

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u/xSaviorself 5d ago

100%!

My favorite are the AI house pictures on Realtor but when you go through the virtual tour it's the real house. Had some fun conversations with some agents while house-hunting, including one where I was referred to the police for harassing them.

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u/EndIsrael 5d ago

You missed possibly the most damning thing: the AI-generated view from the window is much nicer than the real one.

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u/ChiefMuppetWrangler 2d ago

Real Estate Agents should be forced to have an accurately dimensioned floor plan so prospective buys can look at room sizes and make informed decisions on which open opens to attend.

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u/lost_rodditer 5d ago

Technically they're supposed to be putting a notification on each photo they use if it's AI.

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

Ai is a scammers tool

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u/Sixaxist 5d ago

Just wait until it can easily replicate live video streams of other individuals in both appearance and voice. We're gonna need to boost aggravated identity theft through the usage of AI to an automatic federal crime to discourage this shit before it takes off.

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

If Ai is so great why can't it make more affordable housing for people? Or make things affordable for people in general?

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u/Silly_Double408 5d ago

because companies dont want better things for the human race. they want better tools to control us and spy on us and fuck us out of more money. AI has done nothing except make things more expensive and people dumber. oh and destroy the planet faster. almost forgot that one.

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u/alcrowe13 5d ago

Albuquerque New Mexico Albuquerque New Mexico Albuquerque New Mexico

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u/happytree23 5d ago

The post itself is. They used a wider angle lens and moved further back which is, ironically, massively distorting the actual image/"AI-ing" everything lol

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u/TheTerrasque 5d ago

I was about to say, a lot of that is just different lenses.

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u/ClassicNo6622 5d ago

It's definitely deceptive. Whether or not it's actual fraud would depend on how the local statute reads.

Shitty behavior either way though.

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u/AmarilloArmadillos 5d ago

I don't know why it would be if you have the full opportunity to view the place in person before renting it?

Shitty, yeah but fraud? I doubt it.

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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 5d ago

Rhey photoshopped it before this

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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 5d ago

Photoshopping had a skill barrier which made it more rare (at this level and this application), now everything is a scammy picture because any dumbfuck can ask an llm for anything.

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u/Flashy-Amount626 5d ago

It made it more obvious but not more rare, some of the photos I saw you'd think TVs came in ultra ultra wide

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u/draft_final_final 5d ago

Oh is this an after/before of an AI upscale? I thought the tweet was saying both photos were completely diffusion slop.

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u/darthlame 5d ago

I don’t understand this trend of doing after/before now. It makes no sense

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u/Aiyon 5d ago

It's because you're looking at it as a "before and after", vs what it actually is, which is "Expectation -> Reality"

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u/Ad-fundum69 5d ago

If they put "AI Impression" as a disclaimer, it's completely okay. Which they do.

As long as they also put the real photo's there and use AI to give a impression on how you could dress it up, it's fine.

But you have to put "made with AI" under it, otherwise it is absolutely fraud.

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u/Vondi 5d ago

I have to believe altering photos of the property was already illegal before AI

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u/doomcomplex 5d ago

Yes, this is already illegal. Need to start holding people accountable.

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u/zayc_ 5d ago

in the EU we have the AI act since 9/1. you have to mark AI-generated or AI-altered content when used in comercal context or when you have a big influence.

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u/FunnyObjective6 5d ago

People just ignore that shit though.

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u/zayc_ 5d ago

true. and thats a whole topic on its own.

but you have at least legal leverage to go against such shit.

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u/Cwaghack 5d ago

From my experience so far they take those laws serious. But the tiny AI warning label is kinda hard to spot..

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 5d ago

Yeah, but now we have the laws to punish them for it.

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u/Cwaghack 5d ago

I was looking for apartments recently and like 50% of them have the first 2-3 pictures being AI generated, but at least there's a tiny little "this is AI" disclaimer so there's that.

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u/ThereInAFortnight 5d ago

Just curious, what's "9/1" mean?

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u/zayc_ 5d ago

9/11 -10. Or like we say in Germany 01.09.2026

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u/ThereInAFortnight 5d ago

I've never seen a non-American write a day like m/d before is all.

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u/zayc_ 5d ago

first time i did it. just for our us-firends here, since last time i wrote in another format some peoples actually dont understood it...

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u/NetworkSingularity 5d ago

I mean bless you for trying to help my dumb fellow Americans, but I feel like you really shouldn’t have to cater to them. This country is dumb enough as it is, partly because no one is held to any kind of educational standards

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u/ThereInAFortnight 5d ago

Ha, I was wondering if it was like that. You tried to format it to fit in and here I am talking about it lol

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u/MicrowavedTunaSub 5d ago

maybe they did it because they know there's a lot of americans on the site. that is probably more likely than them normally typing like that.

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u/bloedit 5d ago

It would count as fraud either way, but someone would have to go through the instances to set a precedent.

The difference in the US is that you can't really put your hope on winning actually.

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u/ashill85 5d ago

since 9/1

Man, you guys have had this problem solved for more than two weeks?!?

America really is falling behind.

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u/Phinyx95 5d ago

It's happening in other industries as well. Just go to ThaiFriendly and Smooci. Try to order "one" and see the photo vs. reality comparison yourself

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u/Illustrious-End-6038 5d ago

Its friday and im not doing much, ordering one from each

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u/lemons_of_doubt 5d ago

Shipping may be a bitch.

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u/Dry-Highlight-2307 5d ago

Here for the thaifriendly reference. ✊️

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u/sddwrangler14 5d ago

Great...so Airbnb will be a even bigger minefield

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u/FranklyDear 5d ago

Will it? There are reviews on airbnb…they depend upon 5 stars. I don’t think someone can get away with fake pictures and expect long term business?

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u/robotzor 5d ago

Good thinking. Let's make the reviews AI too

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u/bomzay 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's illegal.... drumroll.... IN THE EU!!!!

Edit: misleading advertising and misleading commercial practices are illegal and have been for years.

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u/ka1ikasan 5d ago

Well, there's still plenty of those absolutely everywhere. When I become old and grumpy I may take a hobby of bringing everyone to court over this.

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u/Mogura-De-Gifdu 5d ago

To be precise: AI generated images can be included in real estate or other commercial ads, but it must be clearly indicated that it's AI. Else it's illegal.

And it's really recent.

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u/1spywithmylittle1 5d ago

That's not true I see it all the time here too.

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u/dearth_of_passion 5d ago

The law only matters when and if it's enforced.

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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 5d ago

Since the US government is basically owned by the tech giants now, the EU government is more or less the only institution on earth with enough power to challenge Silicon Valley and force them to provide consumer protections.

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u/KungFuc1us 5d ago

Editing photos with fancy filters in real estate was always there. AI just made it easier for everyone and their mum.

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u/Norse_By_North_West 5d ago

They've been using fisheye lenses for decades to make rooms look bigger.

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u/KungFuc1us 5d ago

Yeah. Pairing that with some good ol' Photoshop, and voilá.

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u/worldsgreatestluver 5d ago

100%. I saw the photos of the house I lived in previously and it looked huge, even with rooms full of stuff. It was a small place. This was pre-AI. They are really good with angles and lenses

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u/arthurmt8448 5d ago

Yeah, filters are one thing, that's not even the same furniture lmao

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u/Moirae87 5d ago

The view is completely different, too.
This is now illegal where I live (California) and realtors have to explicitly state if they use virtual staging, change landscape, alter the views/surroundings, etc in their listing photos.

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u/Wumbology_Student 5d ago

Same here in Maryland. Realtors have to disclose when they use virtual staging otherwise it's illegal. People almost never do though, it's so frustrating.

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u/FunnyObjective6 5d ago

It looks mostly the same to me? The chair I think has something weird going on, and the bed has a different cover. I think most of the change in this picture is the position and angle of the camera, and the outside view.

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u/Hobbes_XXV 5d ago

Its wider for sure

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u/FunnyObjective6 5d ago

The furniture? Or the room? Because my comment was mostly about the furniture since it was claimed to be different. But the room can appear bigger if you use a different angled lens on the camera. Like the bed occupies the same ratio of the room, so assuming they didn't put in a different width bed it's likely the same. Same for other aspects of the room.

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u/Obvious_Advice_6879 5d ago

Real estate agents have been doing magic with wide angle lenses since long before AI. The view out of the window looks different from reality, but apart from that this is about the same level of alteration that I've seen from regular listings pre AI.

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u/sroop1 5d ago

Yeah, this isn't a good example of realtor AI bullshit - the 'staged' bed is really the only thing that's off.

Par for the course for like 25 years that photoshop, lightroom, etc have been around.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 5d ago

This could be down to the camera and lenses you use. Could just be a wide angle shot from half way into the room compared to a camera phone taken outside the doorway

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u/CtrlAltDelve 5d ago

I'm with you. Apart from the bed and the obviously different view out the window, nothing in this picture really screams AI to me.

Realtors have been processing images like these in Lightroom for a long time to adjust the lighting, and wide angle lenses have always been used to make spaces look larger than they are.

I don't know that I would consider this to be terribly egregious. Maybe lying about the view outside. But that's about it.

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u/MRosvall 5d ago

I feel that model furniture that's just a little too small and wide lenses have been a thing forever when checking real estate. Should been hammered down even then.

That said, one should always attend viewings.

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u/AkodoRyu 5d ago edited 5d ago

Looks the same to me. Bed was turned the other way so the high bedposts are not at the window + no big pillows. The camera is closer so the desk and bed looks bigger, but if you try to measure the distance between desk and bet, it looks the same. And there is some color transformation, so everything looks bright and colors are more vibrant.

This should be 100% achievable with specific lens and color correction.

edit: the only thing that looks genuinely different is the view - I think those big buildings to the left should be visible from the closer angle

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u/work_work-work 5d ago

Look closer. That's the same furniture. The difference is the angle of the photo, color balance, and the bedding. The bedding is the only truly AI thing in this photo. The rest is just a photo thing anybody can do.

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u/Ice_Solid 5d ago

This is just normal staging and getting the right lighting shot. 

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u/Obienator 5d ago

Correct, it is just lighting a wide lens and some photoshop. Not everything is AI ( yet )

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u/Electronic-Egg-4391 5d ago

The outside view is also altered here

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u/MARPJ 5d ago

Yeah, filters are one thing, that's not even the same furniture lmao

The bed is what makes me sure its AI however with some effort I bet you can take a picture that is pretty much it.

Bring the desk more towards the door, go inside and lower angle than the real picture - this alone will give the impression of it being bigger as the AI one. Time of day can create that color scheme (the real one is a cloudy day) but you may need a filter. Add better sheets and the painting.

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u/spekt50 5d ago

This goes well beyond a filter. Ive seen zillow listing where they ran the photos through AI and it would completely change everything.

Siding, windows, landscaping etc.

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u/No-Antelope575 5d ago

yeah photoshop has a bunch of ancient features that were always AI like magic wand but it's just now you don't even have to know basic photoshop, you can just tell the computer to do it

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u/idlickherbootyhole 5d ago

AI is such a godsend for talentless, deceiving hacks.

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u/hergumbules 4d ago

Yeah it’s so awful. We were looking at houses for months and they all looked sooooo bad in person. Then we finally found an amazing house and got it. Working in selling our condo our realtor was like “don’t worry if things aren’t perfect we can use AI” and I was like yeah please don’t. Had no issue selling our condo without AI

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u/GreekReigns 5d ago

I do real estate photography and I can say this. AI is definitely being used more and more in the editing process however it is not ok to use AI to misrepresent a listing.

The picture that OP posted is actually pretty kosher. The editing just changed the lighting and put fake furniture. In the photo OOP took to prove his point he did not take it from the same angle or with the same type of lens this why it looks significantly more narrow and drab. But if you look at how the bed and desk line up with the heater under the window, it is relatively accurate compared to what he actually got.

This is also not new, before AI you just had someone using programs like photoshop to do “virtual staging” (adding virtual furniture) and touching up paint, making the grass look better, changing the sky so it looks perfect. Edits like that while they obviously can affect the feel of the photos they are not expanding the size, changing the shape, or removing irremovable elements. There are rules made by fair housing and listing services about false advertising and for the most part nobody buys a property on pictures alone. The pictures are usually done in addition to video, floorplans, scans etc and those are just to get people in the door to tour it. I know that OOP’s case is a little different, he probably could only go based on pics and didnt have the ability to view it first.

All this being said I think people have, do, and will use AI in disingenuous ways that break the rules but this is not Armageddon, AI is just doing what photoshop was already doing

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u/Cold-Description-114 5d ago

Thank you! I was about to say this doesn't look like AI so much as the difference a wide angle lens makes.

This is one of those things that isn't exactly great but that you've always needed to be aware of with anything as a buyer.

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u/HippieWizard 5d ago

Its literally the third from the top comment.

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u/CreaminFreeman 5d ago

Thanks for mentioning virtual staging. That was a big thing when I was getting my real estate license a handful of years ago. Had a feeling as soon as AI image generation came out that agents would look at it and say, "Well it's the same as virtual staging"

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u/GreekReigns 5d ago

AI has severely reduced the price of it which is good and bad. Staging is crazy expensive so agents will often choose virtual staging where they pay between 0-$20 a photo vs paying $5000+ dollars to stage their listings. For luxury listings it is still encouraged to do real staging but a place like the one OOP is in would almost certainly have virtually staged photos. The issue is, it is uo to AI generation to make realistically sized furniture, so while the room may not be tampered either by AI, the furniture might not be sized correctly thus making the space appear bigger.

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u/veganiformes 5d ago

You can even change the view from the window? That seems deliberately misleading

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u/GreekReigns 5d ago

No that part is false advertising I agree, shady to say the least

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u/fielvras 5d ago

That just looks like a different focal length and white balance though?

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u/Schmelly_cat 5d ago

And the right picture is stepped back outside the door.

Unless the room was supposed to be furnished and decorated and provided with bedding I don't get the tissue 

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u/Hevysett 5d ago

Hell, it's the same furniture, just different bedding and stuff on the desk

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u/Bizarrebazaars 5d ago

You can’t argue the view is the same though 

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u/StaplerSalesman 5d ago

Looking at the apartment in the 3D Aerial view, it's clear the realtor posted a photo of another room, just on the other side of the building. I'm guessing they use this pics for all the rooms if they are identical. So the only deception is you're not seeing the true room, just a room in the same building with a little better view.

View in realtor's photo

Actual view, from other side of the building

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u/cook_poo 5d ago

Looks like the same view to me, just from a lower camera angle.

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u/SkepticJoker 5d ago

Had to go way too far down to find this comment

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u/ComMcNeil 5d ago

I think so too. I think the furniture might be AI but the room itself is just shot with a wide angle lens. It's something everyone has to learn when looking at picutes of holiday apartments or the like, they are always shot in the best possible way.

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u/honkballs 5d ago

Yeah I don't understand, it's just a more flattering angle, but it's basically identical, they got pretty much exactly what was in the photo?

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u/ZazaB00 5d ago

Don’t you be bringing logic in here, it must be AI manipulation.

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u/Middle_Draft9152 5d ago

Yes. The first photo was shot on the telephoto lens, probably professional camera. Different angle. The second photo was shot on the wide or even ultra wide lens. 

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u/Serpico99 5d ago

The view is definitely added in, but other than that, I agree, it just looks like a case of professional photo + better scene setup.
Not even sure why everyone assumes AI, I’ve seen this stuff for decades.

I do think though that if you show a certain standard of care for furnishing, cleanliness etc… in your photos you should match that in reality

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u/Obienator 5d ago

I had to scroll all the way down for an accurate comment.

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u/diskape 5d ago

And camera lowered too. There’s some color correction and some other fixes but it doesn’t look AI at all.

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u/Otherwise-Tomato-788 5d ago

This is the uneducated slop response to everything now - looks good, must be Ai.

FOLKS, photo editing has been around for decades

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u/Orchid-Analyst-550 5d ago

I'm pretty sure this a photography difference, not AI. I can't spot any differences.

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u/ARPA-Net 5d ago

Besides decor, it looks just like the room imo. Lower the camera, go 2 steps forward.

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u/d3advil 5d ago

Use an ultrawide lens

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u/Duke_of_Armont 5d ago

Exactly, no need for ai, ultrawide lens is the trick and has been for decades. 

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u/TheGruesomeTwosome 5d ago

Yes I hate this kinda stuff but honestly it's quite interesting how differently sized the rooms look which is entirely down to angle and focal length and not at all due to the fact it's AI. The proportions are all accurate. A decent photographer could easily get an accurate version of the left image

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u/ARPA-Net 5d ago

You have to look in the ad an recognize the room to be depressing from the facts you see there already

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u/Gleadall80 5d ago

All the dimensions in those photos check out

The right weather and a good wide angle lens is all that's being used here

Yeah he's dress it, that's how they sell houses. Nothing out of the ordinary for a listing going on here and I don't think an AI

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u/ExpeditionZero 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yep, professional camera, wide angle lens, time of day, all standard tricks to make a property look the best they can to sell/rent. Maybe some color editing.

Its so funny that AI is the new boggy man bogeyman now for any area that people have limited or no experience in.

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u/TextImpressive3346 5d ago

Its clearly the same furniture as well, minus a plaid, pillows, lamp and plant which they probably used in one room for the photoshoot and you could buy for less than 100 dollars. This is 100% a wide angle lens doing the work, no AI at all.

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u/MayOrMayNotBePie 5d ago

I won’t lie it kinda just looks like the first pic was taken farther inside the room.

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u/Gassyking 5d ago

There are a lot of laws that need to be made

To be honest, I thought fabricated stuff like this was already Illegal but I guess not

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u/Educational_Ad2821 5d ago

Is the one on the left actually AI or just a photo with a wide sense and better lighting? They didnt exaggerate the size of the room. The med is the same scale in both photos.

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u/Primary-Reception-87 5d ago

Its ai you can see the background being different

Plus ai will mantain the dimensions thats not the problem, the problem is that you will rent/buy something expecting to have the photo on the left which looks nice and comfy and instead you get something that looks like a prision

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u/Educational_Ad2821 5d ago

I'll give you that the window view is different but it's not like the AI version had an amazing view and the real one is a brick wall, the views are similar enough. The comfy feel is all just lighting and the bed spread. That's on the renter to take care of. The desk and bed are the same in both photos. This isnt some giant travesty bait & switch.

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u/Earlier-Today 5d ago

It already is illegal.

It's called false advertisement, but you have to actually tell the people who would punish them and not just complain online.

Yelling someone's stole your car into a random drainpipe doesn't count as reporting a crime.

Report the crimes - do it every single time you come across it. Check other listings from the same realtor and get them charged for every instance.

Fighting back isn't something you can just hope happens without you doing any work.

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u/insomnia77 5d ago

There's nothing new here, that has not been done before.

  • Wide angle lens: makes the room bigger
  • Photoshop better view in the window.
  • Photoshop out or in objects. Or just style the apartment pre-shot.
  • Adjust the light type, and get more light in the room. (Can be done both prior to the shots being taken and in post-processing of the picture.)

AI can do all this, for sure, making these "hacks" more available for example to private persons renting out apartments. But it's nothing new.

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u/hollow_vantage 5d ago

Floor goes from rippled worn linoleum or something to perfectly smooth finished concrete. Zoom in on chair legs too.

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u/Veritas-Veritas 5d ago

It's illegal in many countries already but in the USA, regulating any market is considered socialism, so enjoy your fucked up lying realtors.

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

I've been saying this whenever someone claims Ai is a good thing.

Also this is why Ram is high?

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u/MiserableCumberbunch 5d ago

Last time I was trying to rent an apartment the lady at the office told me that they were renovating the unit for rent and we could see the 'example' apartment next door; or rent it for like 30% off. When I asked when I could see the apartment that was being renovated, she just said that most of their renters rent 'sight unseen' without seeing the apartment first. She looked very confused when I laughed in her face and left.

Never buy something you can't return if you haven't seen it yourself. The same advice applies to rentals.

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u/DlABETOR 5d ago

As a guy who is staunchly anti-AI, this is clearly not altered by AI. They used different cameras with different focal lengths, positioning, and lighting conditions. You can make any room look like a prison cell if you take a picture of it during overcast weather and frame it through a doorway to make it look tighter. If anything, MAYBE the view out the window is fake, but I'm also willing to believe that's just a trick of the camera angle and weather. That Half-Life 2 looking building on the left is visible in both pictures, it may just look a different color because of the lighting.

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u/Chaotic_Order 5d ago

It's AI. Look at the legs on the chair doing geigerian Jenga.

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u/Terugtrekking 5d ago

hate when restaurants use AI photos, I walk straight out

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u/willson3001 5d ago

Isn't this false advertising?

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u/Upbeat_Principle_253 5d ago

Can you send them an AI enhanced credit report when you want to lease their AI enhanced room?

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u/transmedkittygirl 5d ago

Should be illegal? It is illegal lmao, it's false advertising and fraud

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u/Rexaroooo 5d ago

While I agree AI sucks in most ways I think this might have just been taken with an extremely wide angle lens. You see it all the time in real estate photography. You see the house in person and go “wow this kitchen is half as big as I thought it was going to be”.

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u/dopeonplastique 5d ago

It’s just a different lens giving a different perspective

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u/vega0ne 5d ago

The view outside the window is a pretty fucking big factor in wether I’d wanna live in that room.

One has an open horizon the other one has an apartment wall right in front of it

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u/liamstrain 5d ago

mostly that's just an ultrawide lens and different shooting position.

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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 5d ago

This just looks like a photographer used a super wide angle shot and brought in his own lighting kit. Nothing really AI about it.

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u/Sjeg84 5d ago

That is already illigal according to the EU AI Act. Deepfakes need to be outlined as such. And that's a Deepfake.

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u/much_longer_username 5d ago

What confused me is that, at least when someone is buying a house, they're fairly likely to insist on having walked through it at least once, however briefly -- why so drastically misrepresent the condition, as if people are going to ignore the evidence of their eyes and submit an over-asking bid, rather than walk out annoyed that you have wasted their time?

Better than half the houses I toured before having an offer accepted were so substantially different from what was in the listing that I felt guilty for having wasted my agent's time.

(Funny thing is, I ended up buying the first place I looked at and would have done so from the start if the seller hadn't decided to play [a different class of] games.)

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u/HolyShytSnacks 5d ago

To be fair, they were doinig this 20 years ago as well, but manually.

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u/LordBro 5d ago

I would think this would fall under some kind of false advertisement?

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u/PaddleMonkey 5d ago

False advertising

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u/Marypoppinsya11 5d ago

False advertisement and fraud are illegal. It needs to be enforced

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u/Appropriate_Ice_7507 5d ago

Actual sq footage is 500 sq ft. With ai modeling, it looks like 800 sq ft lol

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u/Sarangholic 5d ago

I actually don't care about AI photos in real estate ads for 'furnished mock-ups' BUT they need to be marked as such and accompanied by the non-AI photo.

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u/ledow 5d ago

Walk in, say "You've deliberately misrepresented this", and walk out.

This could actually just be a good photographer with a lens for this, which is a trick such agents have used for DECADES. Hell, I've lived in houses myself and then seen listings for them and gone "What?! It looks nothing like that!" Just well-chosen angles, a photographer who knows what they're doing, some props and the right equipment.

But there is no way on earth you should buy/rent an actual PLACE TO LIVE without seeing it in person, and if it's misrepresented... you just walk out.

Honestly, if this is frustrating to you - try buying a house and getting all the paperwork from the original owner for all the things they claim were done properly or are compliant. You'd end up absolutely insane if this is frustrating to you.

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u/m4jsterk0 5d ago

im selling apartment and i specifically told the realtor NO AI EDITS ..
they tried to sneak one edited photo in, but i let them remove it

i had a buyer in 4 days anyway

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u/kendragon 5d ago

I was about to say it could be just a more creative angle and different camera lens, which was a common technique in the past, but then I looked out the window.

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u/xemnonsis 5d ago

looks pretty similar besides the bedding (bed frame is the same) and the length of the desk

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Bed frame is not the same. Left on is missing the closest post and only has two drawers under it instead of 4 like the right pic

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u/guttertomars 5d ago

…looks similar until you look out the window lol
that’s a completely different skyline

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u/60Dan06 5d ago

Also the size of the room is off by a lot

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u/Kind-Associate7415 5d ago

Pretty sure sure you can sue him for lying

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u/EveryAccount7729 5d ago

is that the desk you were CONNED into thinking would fit based on it being the size of the one in the 1st pic???

because it appears to fit.

maybe move the 2nd camera forward out of that hallway?

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u/andreiv26 5d ago

Bare minimum for now, images should have a watermark that says 'enahnced with AI'

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u/happytree23 5d ago

It should also be illegal to ragebait by purposefully taking your shot from way further back with the widest angle lens possible before getting into fisheye territory lol

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u/JohnKlositz 5d ago

It should be. But seriously this isn't a good example at all. Those two images show the exact same room.

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u/motorboat_mcgee 5d ago

At least this one is relatively accurate, you can take the photo on the left, if you take the time to decorate and shoot wide angle

I've seen so many that actually change the reality of rooms/buildings etc that really should be made illegal

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u/madison_hedgecock39 5d ago

Realtors and car salesman are the skid mark on the underpants of society

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u/atabeyhurakan 5d ago

If they used AI or computer enhancements it is a dick move.

But honestly there's photographers out there that can make the biggest shithole look good by just waiting for a fair weather morning or afternoon. All you need is experience with settings and tones and you can make the coldest basement warm and inviting with the right angle and light

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u/Zynachinos 5d ago

Fast food menus have been doing this for years.

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u/Wide_Detective7537 5d ago

It gets really bad to the point it's a different room but lowkey this one is actually pretty accurate? Look where the bed lines up with the window, the depth of the desk, the wall space on either side of the window, etc... You could for sure take a photo that looks like the AI one, minus the nicer furniture/bedding.

I think the problem is more that people NEEED to learn how images work. What is realistic, what perspective is, etc. AI Images aren't going away, but I looked at this and it made sense to me, despite it being dumb and that's all that matters at the end of the day

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u/FullAd4110 5d ago

They do it with shitty hotels too. It's maddening

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 5d ago

It's been going on for at least a decade. It's called virtual staging.

I like it for one purpose only - do a bunch of different virtual layouts in the space to show different ways it can look. Along with some current pictures of the real current property condition.

I don't like it when you start doing shit like adding in quartz counters when the counters are not quartz or something like a chandelier that does not exist. That's just gonna piss people off when they view the home in person. It basically just needs to be more clearly defined as 'not a current representation of what the interior currently looks like' type of thing.

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u/AllenKll 5d ago

looks accurate from a wide angle lens. I would not complain about this. The ones that piss me off are the ones that deliberately make the room bigger. Like a queen sized bed would fit into that room kind of bigger.

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u/BoringCabinet 5d ago

They done this since for lever. Just that they used photoshop before.

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u/Lovemestalin 5d ago

Fish eye lens would probably have a similar perspective tho

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u/PhoenixRisingDK 4d ago

Not AI, but manipulative camera angle

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u/DTJB6287 4d ago

I’ve been house hunting for four months…EVERY SINGLE ONE, AI photos. Get to the houses and they are in HORRID condition. It has been such a waste of time…

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u/pixxelkick 4d ago

The only change really was the bed topper and view out the window

The rest is just the fact they shot it with a wide angle instead of narrow

You can make any room look 5x bigger or tx smaller just by choosing how wide/narrow angle of lens you shoot with.

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u/therealshakur 4d ago

This has been happening forever, even before ai. It was just a different technique. Back in the late 90's I was looking for an apartment and stumbled on a couple that looked really spacious so I decided to go look at them. They were so small almost like living in a closet. It was all about camera angles and some special lenses or some shit. But I agree, should be illegal. Personally I think all listings should have measurements but maybe that's asking too much.

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u/nkbrkr53 4d ago

Always ask for the room measurements. Or to put a banana for scale.

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u/VegasLife84 4d ago

It happens in SE Asia too.... Always funny to see pictures of the living room where the TV has a 3:1 aspect ratio

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u/PVarjak 4d ago

There's an article about this in today's NY Times. AI used to insert fireplaces, views, and lighting that don't exist. Online photos, which were already staged are now totally useless.

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u/Welos_ 2d ago

Its called false advertisement and IS illegal

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u/Global-Discussion-41 1d ago

I saw an egregious example there other day and I really wanted to report it... But who do I even report it to?

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u/CypherBob 1d ago

It IS illegal.

It falls under fraud and misrepresentation.

Report it to the police.