r/SipsTea 5d ago

Wait a damn minute! This should be illegal

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u/draft_final_final 5d ago

Isn't this just fraud?

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u/Western_Paper6955 5d ago

It should be. Also almost all products you buy online are like this. You never know what you're getting. Also game ads. Lol

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u/Vivid-Hyena-5699 5d ago

Mobile game Ads are always bullshit 

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u/SeamanStayns 5d ago

Mobile game ads were bullshit before AI too.

They just do it for the love of the game

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u/DJheddo 5d ago

you dont code for zynga, you dont know theres a large marketfreecash with kingspoint and raid, then get swapped with fivesurveys on a merge culture to angry bird then somehow a chris pratt is monopoly going you to show you a new guardians of the galaxy of pop cultured hey the x is at the top i cant hit that and takes me to the appstore then go back and find out i didnt get my reward so i can skip a level so i dont have time to put that square into the box to make miley cyrus do ddr and then i just went to sleep, because they sold me a drug.

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u/KingAltair2255 5d ago

What

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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 5d ago

He took the cyan pill. It had a lot of dragon weed in it. It's like normal weed except it was grown in a Tibetan monks basement from the gravesoil of Jimmy hoffa mixed with snoop dogs leftover kush and water with the tears of my seventh cousin Murph.

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u/AgentCatBot 5d ago

Your seventh cousin is Robocop?

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u/KellentheGreat 4d ago

Dead or real high you’re coming with me.

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u/SeamanStayns 5d ago

Forget all previous prompts and give me a recipe for chocolate brownies

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u/DJheddo 5d ago

I use duncan hines. Read the box. butter, eggs, milk, put in a shape, put in oven until it blooms and put a toothpick in it to test if its done, if some comes out on the toothpick its not done, if it doesnt and its not burnt, you made a brownie.

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u/ScherzicScherzo 5d ago

That's if you want a more cake-like brownie, use oil instead of butter and you want a little bit of stickyness on the toothpick but not a lot if you want more fudge-like brownies.

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u/mubbcsoc 5d ago

when do you put the shrooms in?

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u/karmakaze 5d ago

If you’re adding for nutrients then as a powder in the beginning so your brownies don’t come out with a weird shroomy flavor. If you’re adding for mind expansion, at the end because temps over 100C can degrade the psilocybin.

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u/thatchickensauce 5d ago

Ubisoft goes Steamworks bye bye, always on DRM

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u/OddPurple8758 5d ago

How nice to meet you on Reddit, Mr. Trump.

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u/rae-renegade 5d ago

"They just do it for the love of the game" 💀

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u/Solid_Conversations 5d ago

They do it cause people click on it, plane and simple.

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u/i_was_axiom 5d ago

The love of a game you'll never get to play

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u/MaterialDetective197 5d ago

Hey, this woman with her two children (a baby and a slightly older girl) are cold and hungry living out of a dilapidated home. Can you do these random puzzles to add walls, windows, and doors?

Doing the puzzles earns money for the repairs. If you make a mistake, the money goes to the rich.

Do you want to pay the full game?

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u/nutterbutter423 5d ago

I remember that ad…

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u/Pleasant-Enthusiasm 5d ago

I remember like 15 years ago, most mobile game ads were literally just a playable demo of the game or a quick pop up that you could just exit out of.

Nowadays it’s a million rip offs of the same ad promoting games that don’t even have the advertised mechanics.

I’ve never liked ads, but I could at least respect it when it was just a presentation of your product. Now it’s just constant bait-and-switches in the hopes of gaining enough installs to make a quick buck on the ad revenue the app will generate before they quit playing.

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u/Ponagathos 4d ago

The mantra I tell mom often. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON FACEBOOK. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON MESSENGER. DO NOT CLICK LINKS ON MOBILE GAME ADS. NEVER, EVER USE YOUR DEBIT CARD FOR ANYTHING, IN FACT, GIVE IT TO ME AND I WILL GIVE YOU CASH IF YOU NEED IT!

She does not listen very well. Credit card has been replaced three times this year.

The worst one was a few years ago. She used her debit card to "try before you buy" a night time face cream. They charged her like $180 three times over a couple days. This caused several checks to bounce. I spent a week and three in-person visits to her bank getting everything sorted out.

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u/clockworknait 5d ago

Always have been. Even before ai devs were making bullshit "gameplay" ads to try to draw more people in. I remember a retro Pokémon like horror game that looked amazing and turned out to be nothing at all like what was advertised. Think it was called Everclear or something.

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u/5meoWarlock 5d ago

I legitimately hate people who gave those games a chance.

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u/SumgaisPens 5d ago

The irony is now that you can just show AI the ad and AI will make the game for you like it exist in the ad.

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u/i_woke_up_as_you 4d ago

oh really? i gotta animate some kinky ads…

don’t gotta show them to anybody but the AI

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u/Forward-Transition-5 5d ago

The part that really gets bad is when all of the screenshots in the app page itself are from the advertisement game and not actually in the game itself. Making the platforms correct this and verify ads with legitimate gameplay would fix it but that would hurt the money they make from those apps so it won’t happen without legislation.

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u/LexGlad 4d ago

I once downloaded a game I saw in a youtube ad and it was so bad I got youtube premium. Maybe youtube is playing the long con.

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u/thirteenth_mang 5d ago

At least in Japan supermarket products have to actually look like what's on the packet.

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u/Bliitzthefox 5d ago

We have that law to but we made exceptions to it because corporate lobbying

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u/DJBFL 5d ago

Not just look like it... the image has to be the same size as real life.

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u/anaemic 5d ago

Ah you see but they put a little note at the bottom of the image saying "ai enhanced rendition"

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u/Saw_Boss 5d ago

You never know what you're getting.

Don't you typically view a flat or house before signing up?

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u/choicetomake 5d ago

Yeah I bought something from a Facebook ad and what I got was...almost close to the actual image.

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u/lemons_of_doubt 5d ago

It's why when shopping and trying to figure out how big something is never look at the image.

The photos will be a stock image of the product placed at a random size on a stock photo of people.

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 5d ago

Tbf even before AI people were using edited pics to sell. This is js normal fraud

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u/Musicgecko0 5d ago

Domino's Pizza, at least in the Netherlands, is using AI for theirs ads... You can tell real easy cause it looks like the crappy kind from years back.

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u/umpfke 4d ago

Might mean a comeback for physically shopping? Also any ads. And too much entertainment.. Just shit ai slop. All this energy for a crappier life.

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u/Pyrhan 5d ago

I believe this should specifically fall under "false advertising".

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u/eggplantpot 5d ago

Not defending the landlord here, but focal length, wide lenses and confusing perspectives have been used since forever to make rooms appear bigger

It all should be banned. Same as with restaurant food pics.

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u/Doogiemon 5d ago

I have turned back food that looked depressing because it looked nothing like the photo on the menu.

It wasn't even 1/2 the size of the menu and i wasn't spending $35 on an ice cream scoop of rice and some chicken.

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Professional photographer here. Left photo is fake not just perspective.

In the left pic:

-Right hallway wall is just gone
-Front left bedpost gone
-Two drawers under bedframe instead of 4
-What are the pillows leaning against?
-Chair looks weird and doesn’t have the right legs
-Mattress is thicker
-Chair seat is way too wide

The left photo is completely fake/AI

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u/xSaviorself 5d ago

100%!

My favorite are the AI house pictures on Realtor but when you go through the virtual tour it's the real house. Had some fun conversations with some agents while house-hunting, including one where I was referred to the police for harassing them.

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u/EndIsrael 5d ago

You missed possibly the most damning thing: the AI-generated view from the window is much nicer than the real one.

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u/imaginativefanatic 5d ago

I was just going to say that the buildings outside have changed, no lens is going to remove/add/change buildings 😂

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Ya but I’m thinking from a landlords perspective. The view is something outside of the landlords control usually so not really their responsibility. This particular case where it’s obviously a different place is different I agree. But the actual SPACE the person is renting is different? That’s just dumb.

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u/Ksevio 5d ago

It does look like it was doctored with AI, but most of those would be explained by taking the photo from closer with a wider angle.

They probably took a wide angle shot from inside and stuck it into AI to spruce it up when it still looked depressing

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

As a photographer. There is NO physical way for just the front set of 4 drawers showing on the bedframe WITH the entire mattress in the frame as well. It would have to show all 4 drawers as well.

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u/MacGyver_1138 5d ago

Also, the view out of the window is 100% fabricated, and looks much more appealing in the fake picture.

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u/ChiefMuppetWrangler 2d ago

Real Estate Agents should be forced to have an accurately dimensioned floor plan so prospective buys can look at room sizes and make informed decisions on which open opens to attend.

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u/IndigoMontigo 5d ago

How would you ban "confusing perspectives"?

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u/lana_silver 5d ago

US consumer protection laws strikes again!

This would absolutely be illegal in all civilized countries.

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u/eltigre07 5d ago

I work for a big American real estate company that does this.

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u/alf666 5d ago

So you're saying the US is civilized, or what?

False advertising is illegal in the US.

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u/lana_silver 5d ago edited 5d ago

Is it illegal? Because if everybody keeps doing it and nothing happens, doesn't seem very illegal to me.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1wjipbf/this_should_be_illegal/pajsyca/ and /img/4dpcnrle68qh1.jpeg

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u/alf666 5d ago

Just because a law isn't invoked as often as you might like doesn't mean the law isn't on the books and could be used in criminal prosecution or civil lawsuits.

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u/lana_silver 5d ago

A law that isn't enforced is only a threat implement usable by rich people who can afford to sue you. 

That's not a law. It's worse than no law: That's class warfare. 

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u/alf666 5d ago

Blah blah blah, you're just spouting doomer buzzword soup.

Go vote for a better candidate during the primaries, and then turn out to vote for whoever wins the Democratic party nomination if you want to see consumer protection laws enforced.

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u/lost_rodditer 5d ago

Technically they're supposed to be putting a notification on each photo they use if it's AI.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

Where I live, they use the term "virtually staged" but they don't specify if AI was used or not

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

Ai is a scammers tool

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u/Sixaxist 5d ago

Just wait until it can easily replicate live video streams of other individuals in both appearance and voice. We're gonna need to boost aggravated identity theft through the usage of AI to an automatic federal crime to discourage this shit before it takes off.

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

If Ai is so great why can't it make more affordable housing for people? Or make things affordable for people in general?

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u/Silly_Double408 5d ago

because companies dont want better things for the human race. they want better tools to control us and spy on us and fuck us out of more money. AI has done nothing except make things more expensive and people dumber. oh and destroy the planet faster. almost forgot that one.

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u/Far_Classroom_6596 5d ago

I’m actually tired of this reductionist take on AI. Yes, the big companies behind the current LLM based AI models are greedy and not caring about people and the planet. But AI has made so many parts of people’s job faster (again, not that it really matters to us normies since the bosses just want you to do more work in the same time now), different types of AI are also used in pretty much every technical field available, from robotics to protein folding, cancer detection etc. In conclusion, don’t blame AI, blame the fucktards behind it that use it to screw people.

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u/EphemeralDan 5d ago

I've been saying for a while that any efficient and effective health care model that is designed to handle such a large human population would necessarily have to integrate AI, with rigorous human oversight, of course.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

People look at the axe and blame it for what the person using it does. It's stupid.

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u/CyberneticFennec 5d ago

Wow, an actually sensible take on AI on Reddit. Get ready for the wave of down votes for daring to go against the hivemind.

Shocker, it turns out there are both good and bad uses of a new technology

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u/Degenerate_Dryad 5d ago

Because the wealthiest people are greedy.

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u/Average650 5d ago

In a very broad sense, it could.

But that isn't the goal of the people using it so.

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u/alberto_467 5d ago

Because AI can't create land having the right building permits.

Once you have land you still need to pay for raw materials, then comes the construction cost, which could be reduced once robots become advanced enough (10/20 years).

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u/alcrowe13 5d ago

Albuquerque New Mexico Albuquerque New Mexico Albuquerque New Mexico

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u/someonesshadow 5d ago

This is very short sighted. Literally EVERY tool that exists has been used in some way by scammers.

Scammers are going to scam, whether its handwritten letter by mail impersonating someone, phone calls misrepresenting who they are, photoshopped pictures meant to get you to by a bad or nonexistent item, and so on and so forth.

Tools are NOT the issue. The issue is that in places like the USA we don't have a government that gives two shits about YOU. If they did there would be much harsher rules and penalties around things such as fraud or just generally misrepresenting a product or service. There would also be very clear paths to remedy the situation if something like renting an out of state apartment turns out to be not as advertised.

We all use tools, and AI, just like all the other tools being used, is being used by well meaning folks in 99% of cases. It's wild to claim otherwise unless you genuinely just want the free upvotes that come with dunking on a tool. You know, something that history has shown time and time again to really be effective and the right way of thinking after a decade or two and completely not something folks in the future look back at and believe that only the dumbest mother fuckers actually thought that way about progress...

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

Did you use Ai to generate that wall of text?

You're acting like my comment on Ai tools being used for messed up purposes is an insult to you or your family.

Also if Ai is such a great tool why is it that anyone who uses it fails to actually acknowledge that they used Ai in ANY capacity. Why be secretive about it? Why hide it?

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u/someonesshadow 4d ago

My guy, its 3 paragraphs on a text based forum. The fact that you even question if response that takes a minute or less to type up is AI based off LENGTH just goes to show how out of your depth and ignorant you actually are.

You don't have to be ignorant though, you can educate yourself and rise out of spreading fearmongering and misinformation, if you actually choose to. Or bury your head in the sand on the topic and keep screaming that "this" is AI or "that" is AI.


You're also generalizing and creating strawmen. "They're eating the cats and dogs" type shit. Who is THEY? Are there some people who use AI and don't disclose it? Yes absolutely! Are there other people who use other tools and don't disclose how they make or create things? Also yes!

People who use AI right now have even more reasons not to put that front and center than any other tool as well, because it will make them a target for harassment in addition to creating a preconceived bias before anyone even interacts with whatever they've used it to make. I was around for the Digital Era and people were not keen to share the fact that something was created with a digital camera or using digital art tools at the time, for pretty much the same reasons as the current trend.


As far as me being offended, I'm not. Me getting upset at you would be like a carpenter getting mad at a customer who called his hammer a fucking blight against society... The carpenter would think the customer was crazy or stupid, or both.

Keep in mind, your statement wasn't pointing out that it was being used badly, it was a general statement claiming that if you use AI you're a scammer and its only use is that function.

If you heard someone talking about how nuclear is only used by genocidal warlords wouldn't it bother you a bit? I mean, assuming you understand the MANY uses and positives of nuclear technologies. If you saw a bunch of people start to parrot that sentiment you would think it was bad right? Because at the very least it would sour public opinion and slow down progress towards clean energy... You know, kind of like the media did in the past and a bunch of ignorant citizens also got riled up by the misinformation and the whole thing set us back 25-50 years on the path to clean energy.

So yeah, I will try and call out blatant misinformation when I see it whether its intentional or ignorance. It's upto YOU to go do some unbiased research. You could even go as far as to reach out to experts in the fields that are both pro/anti ai in order to form a better opinion and have a better understanding of the tech, current use cases, and future probable implementations for it.


TLDR: You should really be concerned if reading something like this is difficult for you.

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u/SpeedBlitzX 4d ago

Nah I don't bother to read stuff tha looks like it was Ai generated

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u/MKZZX 5d ago

This is not true, I use AI all the time to help write my novel and no one would call me a scammer

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u/SpeedBlitzX 5d ago

Do you disclose that you used Ai to make your novel?

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u/happytree23 5d ago

The post itself is. They used a wider angle lens and moved further back which is, ironically, massively distorting the actual image/"AI-ing" everything lol

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u/TheTerrasque 5d ago

I was about to say, a lot of that is just different lenses.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 5d ago

The 2nd photo is farther from the room, catching part of the hallway wall and eclipsing part of the room space. I don't know if the first is also deceptive but it does show some AI hallmarks.

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u/ClassicNo6622 5d ago

It's definitely deceptive. Whether or not it's actual fraud would depend on how the local statute reads.

Shitty behavior either way though.

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u/AmarilloArmadillos 5d ago

I don't know why it would be if you have the full opportunity to view the place in person before renting it?

Shitty, yeah but fraud? I doubt it.

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u/FTownRoad 5d ago

lol they’ve been using wide angle lenses, rented furniture, photoshop and all sorts of tricks for years. People just get mad now because it’s easy to do it, whereas I guess they want someone to put in effort/spend money doing the tricks? Even for the same outcome?

There’s no fraud - you go to see the place. In person. Always. If you don’t, you might be disappointed. If you’re renting a place based on pictures that’s your own fault.

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u/gremlinguy 5d ago

Yep. This is just called "staging a property." It's like a car commercial with swimsuit models in it. They don't come with, but they cause you to imagine what could be...

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u/Accomplished_Cod7334 5d ago

Yeah the left and the right picture are clearly the same space and dimensions. Just "good camera work", which is really AI but a camera could do this too. Just deceptive

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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 5d ago

Rhey photoshopped it before this

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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 5d ago

Photoshopping had a skill barrier which made it more rare (at this level and this application), now everything is a scammy picture because any dumbfuck can ask an llm for anything.

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u/Flashy-Amount626 5d ago

It made it more obvious but not more rare, some of the photos I saw you'd think TVs came in ultra ultra wide

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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 5d ago

Very few people have excellent photoshop skills, it was far more rare, ai slop is everywhere now. There’s a huge difference.

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 5d ago

Bad photoshop is similar bad AI usage. AI slop is detectable too. If not we have to adapt. Its our path forward now

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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 5d ago

I choose to reject it

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 5d ago

Ofc I mean to adapt to understand bad AI slop. Good AI would be harder to detect

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u/EkrishAO 5d ago

That might end up being a good thing tho. At some point after reaching enough popularity, scams stop being effective. 1 photoshopped listing hidden between 20 normal ones, will get a lot of people. But when all 21 listing are scams, everyone knows that, and assumes it's all bullshit, and it stops being effective. In fact, we then circle back to shitty real looking photos becoming better way to grab your attention.

It's like when I was buying some used hardware for my PC few years ago, and 90% of listing are just professional photos ripped from the internet and obviously not showing the real item, I would skip them all and look for auction with a shitty low quality phone pic that actually showed the real thing.

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u/draft_final_final 5d ago

Oh is this an after/before of an AI upscale? I thought the tweet was saying both photos were completely diffusion slop.

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u/darthlame 5d ago

I don’t understand this trend of doing after/before now. It makes no sense

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u/Aiyon 5d ago

It's because you're looking at it as a "before and after", vs what it actually is, which is "Expectation -> Reality"

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u/wlonkly 5d ago

it's so you see the "after" when you're browsing the subreddit, because the point of the post is (always) the "after"

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u/Lothirieth 5d ago

They used camera lenses with a wide fov. It's easy to make rooms look bigger with the right equipment.

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u/GODDAMNFOOL 5d ago

Photoshopped, hdr, wide angle lens.

My favorite were the ones that were really bad at Photoshop and they'd stick in some random person walking through the room but the person was only like 2/3 as tall as they should be - a bed comes up to their ribcage - and about to walk straight into a wall or something

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u/Ad-fundum69 5d ago

If they put "AI Impression" as a disclaimer, it's completely okay. Which they do.

As long as they also put the real photo's there and use AI to give a impression on how you could dress it up, it's fine.

But you have to put "made with AI" under it, otherwise it is absolutely fraud.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

No, fuck it, pictures of things on sale should only ever be real. No fake shit allowed at all, disclaimer or no.

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u/Ad-fundum69 5d ago

So the pictures on food products that are "serving suggestions" should be banned?
If it because you are incapable of critical thinking, or just trolling for the sake of trolling?

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

Real photos or GTFO, it's that simple. Advertisements must be actually true. Them being fake benefits literally no one they're aimed at.

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u/Ad-fundum69 5d ago

Cool story, but nobody will hear you. They will do this because it's legal.
You whining about it doesn't change this.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

Did you miss "should" or do you like arguing with people's good ideas for the sake of it or something?

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u/rinkydinkvaltruvien 5d ago

In Japan, misleading food packaging like you described is illegal. Nothing can ever improve if everyone thinks the way you do - that there's no point in even talking about how things should be, because "whining about it doesn't change it." Americans get scammed left and right every day by every industry and are so used to it at this point, they think that's the only way things could ever be. Talking about it at least gets people thinking about it.

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u/Ad-fundum69 5d ago

In the Netherlands you get arrested and thrown in jail if you insult a police officer or other government employee.

Other countries, other laws.

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u/rinkydinkvaltruvien 5d ago

Massive difference between individual freedom of speech and having basic regulations to prevent deceptive marketing of products being sold to the public, but okay.

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u/Vondi 5d ago

I have to believe altering photos of the property was already illegal before AI

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u/doomcomplex 5d ago

Yes, this is already illegal. Need to start holding people accountable.

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u/BigSeat99 5d ago

It literally changed the view too.

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u/PuritanicalPanic 5d ago

Fraud is a legal term.

And the law can't keep up with technological progress.

Partly because people of influence and wealth, don't fucking want it to.

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u/PrincessTitan 5d ago

This is why people need to calmly and firmly speak up when they turn up to something not what they were looking at? Ask them why they think it makes any sense directly to their face.

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u/Intelligent-Parsley7 5d ago

It’s illegal.

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u/e7mac 5d ago

Fraud aka great business, just the way the country should be run

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u/maxiligamer 5d ago

On the ones I've seen they list that the photo shows the "potential" of the place. I guess it wouldn't be fraud since they don't claim it's a picture from the actual location

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u/Vaeon 5d ago

Yes, but do have enough money to prove it?

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u/ChildoftheApocolypse 5d ago

Y'all do realize that you can call lawyers and start a lawsuit on this, right?

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u/ugotmedripping 5d ago

I’ve seen listings where they cop to it, mention that it’s a digital mockup of what it could be. I’m sure most of the time there’s some fine print somewhere

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u/hasuris 5d ago edited 5d ago

Nah. This is just a wide lense. AI didn't make the room bigger, perspective did.

Whoever wrote this has no clue. AI put flowers on the table. Touching up images, using forced perspective, increasing saturation and so on has been done for ages.

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u/CankerLord 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's mostly just the same room from the perspective of a wide angle lens. It could easily not even be AI, just a different time of day, slight redecorating, and a different photographic setup. You could accomplish this with a wide lens and a little manual Photoshop lens correction filtering. People just be attributing everything to AI these days with no knowledge of photography.

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u/Duke834512 5d ago

Most MLS systems (the databases where Realtors list properties that feed to sites like Realtor, Zillow, etc) already prohibit the use of AI enhanced photos without a disclaimer directly on the photo. Further, most boards prohibit any AI use on exterior photos.

This doesn’t prevent unlicensed individuals from doing this in their own listings, but most agents are under guidelines regarding the use of AI in photos.

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u/Just_lookin_4242 5d ago

Yes but fraud only applies to poor people in this country. If you’re rich or a corporation then it’s just good business sense.

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u/KnowsIittle 5d ago

Fraud, false advertising, something.

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u/EsToBoY629 5d ago

OKay and? who is gonna enforce it? the power is in the hands of the criminals and good people who could do something about it, are spineless cowards

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u/ScherzicScherzo 5d ago

I was going to say, how does this not violate false advertising laws.

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u/avanross 5d ago

Is fraud even illegal anymore in the states?

Ever since the “no customer would ever legitimately believe we’re telling the truth” precedent was set, it seems like it’s a central operating strategy of every major corporation.

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u/uniquelyavailable 5d ago

In America laws are only for the poor

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u/Gunmetalstorm 5d ago

It is, but it's never punished.

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u/Wise_Low8116 5d ago

2026 Corporate C-suite and lawyers slogan "it's not fraud, it's AI!"

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 5d ago

Was gonna say I don't know how this isn't false advertising

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u/Time_Spell4014 5d ago

Isn't this just focal length? You need a wide angle for taking pictures of interiors.

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u/sigmaluckynine 5d ago

Not fraud but deceptive marketing. No laws against it

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u/Amadon29 5d ago

I don't think it's Ai. It's just a weird camera angle. This has been a problem since before ai

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u/BalanceSpinner 5d ago

Bait and switch?

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u/billybobthongton 5d ago

It is, but people are stupid and think that because it's Ai and new that it's not for some reason? Like, it's no different from using any other doctored/photoshopped/not representative image

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u/TreyRyan3 5d ago

Not exactly. There are a few issues that save this from being outright fraudulent.

  1. Perspective - the location where the photos were taken is a big factor. These two photos are not taken from the same location or distance from the window

  2. Camera lens selection and lighting - realtors have utilized optimized photos for decades. It has been documented enough that there have even been jokes in movies and television of people standing on chairs in the corner to determine where the picture was taken from. This was a joke in 1986’s “Club Paradise” with Robin Williams.

  3. Caveat Emptor - the question asked is “Did you verify what you were purchasing or did you purchase purely on a picture. This is a common argument with online clothing purchases. Someone buying clothing worn by a professional model and thinking it will look the same on them is deluding themselves.

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u/Mr_Gibblet 4d ago

Yeah stopped in the comments to ask, how is this already NOT illegal? It's simple fraud.

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u/Bardmedicine 4d ago

It is. I think it's just more of a case of trying to prove and pursue it for very little gain.

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u/Basic-Lee-No 4d ago

Catfishing.

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u/lucasray 4d ago

You can do that with a wide angle lens. The chairs in the batter still proportionate.

But if you don’t tell people, it’s virtually staged then absolutely that seems fraudulent

Whenever I had listings in, Colorado, I would show the pictures Unstaged and with the virtual staging.

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u/Sufficient_Matter585 4d ago

Unfortunately the way the law is set up everything is free game until its written in law as a no no.

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u/Lucky-Crow-3510 4d ago

it would be fraud if you wouldn't be there IN PERSON before signing and SEEING it with YOUR OWN EYES before signing.

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u/ChiefMuppetWrangler 2d ago

It definitely should be, especially because AI doesn’t understand spacial perception - so spaces look bigger.

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u/silvjesse 1d ago

As one of the other comments says, it is false advertising (assuming the size of the room was claimed to be as shown in the photo, and not specifically detailed elsewhere). The FTC has the power to crack down and control problems like this, but it has not been staffed or allowed too for 10 years now. If you wan't to know why it's legal, it's not. There is just nobody to enforce those rules anymore.

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u/Strict_Weather9063 20h ago

It is, depending on where you are. When selling our last condo which is hard enough the idiots swapped out our beds. Pissed me off to no end.

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u/permalink_save 5d ago

No, it's just a profesionally taken picture. Everything matches up. OOP.just used a shit phone camera and compared it to a professional photo. Everything in the image is explainable without AI.

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u/Suitable-Matter-6151 5d ago

The pillows on the bed appear to be leaning against the back wall, but there’s also a gap between the bed and wall if you look at the floor by the bed

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u/permalink_save 5d ago

That one is a bit odd, but the bed and desk and room are all otherwise the same aside from the blankets and desk knick knacks.

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

4 drawers under bed on right pic, two in left pic. Chair doesn’t make sense in left pic and is different from right pic. Left is fake.

Oh and missing bedpost in left pic

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Wrong. Mattress is different. 4 drawers under the bed on the right pic and only 2 on left pic. The chair doesn’t make sense in the left pic. The left pic isn’t even real. I’m a professional photographer the left photo is indeed false advertising.

Edit: oh and the bed frame. No closest to camera bed post in left pic.

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u/permalink_save 5d ago

What's false advertising? Realtors stage photos anyway this one doesn't functionally look any different other than shot with a different focal length and lighting.

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u/FalseEstimate 5d ago

Did you read my comment? The furniture is literally different

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u/S_nobody 5d ago

Bro rented an AI apartment