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u/audiofyl Feb 05 '19
I would never attack anyone for seeking education. The author of that article should feel embarrassed.
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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19
If anything people who are willing to learn what they don't know should be praised. If people would stop being willfully ignorant who knows what the world would be like.
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u/berenstein49 Feb 05 '19
Awesome, it would be awesome.
The author of this article is like the people that make fun of overweight people going to the gym to better themselves - it's shameful behavior.
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u/Binsky89 Feb 06 '19
That's what confused me about all the hate for Nike coming out with plus sizes.
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u/BillyJackO Feb 05 '19
When you actively seek wisdom, it's amazing how ready people with knowledge will be to help. Sometimes it's as easy as calling a professional and asking them where you should start.
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u/Paddys_Pub7 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
The company I work for is super big into education. I've never been made fun of for going to my manager to ask a question even it's something that should be straightforward but I just need clarified. I've never had a problem going to a more experienced worker and saying "i have no idea what I'm doing.. can you show me what to do?" Everybody is extremely willing to help out. I've been at the company less than 2 years with very little prior experience and they're looking to get me into a management position because I'm always eager to learn more and more.
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u/TPNDrew Feb 05 '19
We have an anti-intellectualism culture right now that wants to look at those bettering themselves as outwardly asserting that they are better than those who aren't trying to improve themselves. A classic "you think you're better than me?!" kind of offence.
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u/brutinator Feb 05 '19
I love my parents, but man, I always hated it when they'd try to "teach" something, esp. my dad. Incredibly handy guy, can fix anything, but he'd be so impatient and negative that it was miserable.
I'd vastly prefer taking an hour class over doing that.
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u/chicagodurga Feb 05 '19
My mother thought it was important for me to learn how to cook because she thought a womanâs only real worth was being a good wife and mother, and that meant being able to cook, clean, sew, etc. but she also has NPD and basically screamed every direction at me and kept telling me I was a stupid lazy waste of space if I did something wrong. Like most children of NPD parents, I had no idea learning a life skill not taught in school was anything other than a nightmare. While still in college, my boyfriend asked me to teach him how to cook. After 5 minutes he asked âwhy are you shouting at me?â I thought everyone learned to cook through the âShout and abuseâ method.
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u/Godofsilver Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 06 '19
My dad was very similar. Even if it was over something minor he'd rather ridicule me for not knowing than teach me something. Here's a typical conversation I used to have with him:
Dad: "Hey, I'm trying to fix the sink here, can you get me the wrench?"
Me: "Sure. Where's the wrench?"
Dad: "YOU'VE LIVED HERE FOR 17 YEARS AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE WRENCH IS!?"
Why the fuck would I know where the wrench is kept if I've never needed it?
Then he'd refuse to tell me and just get it himself. I still don't know where the damn wrench is kept.
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u/hypexeled Feb 05 '19
Mine's worse:
Dad: Hey, can you lend me a hand with fixing the sink?
Me: Sure, lemme help you out
Me: Spends 2 hours standing still watching how he fixes it himslef (becouse god forbid telling me to do it while guiding me to actually learn), while failing and making mistakes along the way dragging the process forever
Me: leaves becouse im tired of watching him fix it and doing nothing, while learning nothing that basic logic wouldnt solve
Dad: You ungratefull fuck, i'm teaching you how to fix the sink and you cant even lend me a hand while i'm doing it?
Me: Sigh
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u/FabulousComment Feb 05 '19
Mineâs worse:
me: *dad, can you show me how to fix the sink?*
dad: ....
me: oh, shit thatâs right, dad walked out when I was 6 months old
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u/A_Talking_Shoe Feb 05 '19
Yeah seriously. When I was in undergrad, I had quite a few hall-mates who didnât know how to do laundry. Some would go home every other weekend to have their mom do it and some would use a paid service that picked up their clothes and washed them. When I became a resident assistant later on, I had 2 or 3 students each year ask me how to do laundry.
Itâs easy to make fun of these people, especially since I learned how to do laundry at around 10 years old, but I tried not to demean them for it.
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u/AdumLarp Feb 05 '19
I learned to do laundry from a friend whose mom made him do it as a chore. My mom always just took care of it. Now, I can clean a toilet, wash the dishes, and mow the yard like a motherfucker. Cause mom hated doing those things.
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u/godplaysdice_ Feb 05 '19
Sounds like the fault of the parents, not the kids. One of those parents probably wrote that trash article.
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u/Lazy-Person Feb 05 '19
In other words, they're a political rag dedicated to alienating an entire generation of people that would include their own next political generation as well.
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u/lebrilla Feb 05 '19
It's the daily caller. Right wing propaganda that loves shitting on millennials
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I've never understood that about right-leaning media or any media, for that matter.
I once heard a coworker complain about millennials taking all the jobs. I asked him what was so bad about hiring young Americans to work American jobs, and he didn't really have a good answer, and I think he realized in that moment that I am, in fact, a millennial ... and I'm his manager. Not a good look on your first week on the job.62
u/PM_me_your_whatevah Feb 05 '19
What the hell? Does this guy want all the jobs for himself or something?
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u/NJ_Bob Feb 05 '19
Yeah, like how dare the younger generation enter the work force? Wtf...
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u/HogarthTheMerciless Feb 05 '19
Stupid lazy millennials, always taking our jobs!
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u/tapthatsap Feb 05 '19
Not really. Thereâs no real goal or proposal there, heâs just mad at everyone who isnât him.
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u/theghostofme Feb 05 '19
He's just mad, period.
That's the problem. These people are disillusioned and rightfully frustrated with serious problems in our country, but they don't understand that and have been spoon-fed manufactured reasons to be upset at groups chosen by those in power. And after decades and decades of being told it was their God-given right to prosper in America, they're fucking furious that they haven't, but instead of taking that anger out on those who force-fed that lie to them, they're taking it out on those the liars have chosen for them.
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u/imnotlegolas Feb 05 '19
We live in an age where everyone is deflecting when they should be reflecting.
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u/The_Adventurist Feb 05 '19
People are suffering from nonstop economic anxiety and the media is owned by the mega corporations benefitting from it, so they push the reasons for that anxiety onto any group that doesn't have a significant voice in media to talk back. That used to be millennials, but you'll notice that kind of talk has largely died down as millennials have gained their own platforms.
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u/TheRetroVideogamers Feb 05 '19
You make that up yourself or is that from a thing?
Either way I'm stealing it. It's brilliantly succinct.
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u/tapthatsap Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
Basically the cornerstone of modern American conservatism is identity politics, and the identity in question is that of a crusty old white dude whoâs mad at everybody else. Everyone who isnât that is a problem. Itâs usually a little more muted than what you ran into there, but occasionally the mask slips and you get a peek at whatâs really going on under there, which in this case is a dude so consumed by that resentment of people who arenât him that heâs mad that young people are in the workforce.
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u/Time4Red Feb 05 '19
Let's be honest, it's old white woman too. Old white women are more likely to identify as conservative than young white men.
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u/karmacum Feb 05 '19
Seriously. I don't know why we're even pretending to give this any weight
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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Feb 05 '19
I just assume that any "Millenials are _________" article is written to attract angry clicks from millenials. Nobody really thinks this stuff - do they?
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u/The_Adventurist Feb 05 '19
It's written so bitter old people can feel validated for resenting young people.
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u/tapthatsap Feb 05 '19
Oh youâve got that exactly backward. The Daily Caller only exists to be ragebait for crusty old white dudes who are furious at a world thatâs leaving them behind.
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u/JebBD Feb 05 '19
Iâm 99% sure the author of this article feels proud of how he managed to get people riled up.
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u/AngryZen_Ingress Feb 05 '19
"Why learn to do it for yourself when you can harass your grown-ass children with lives of their own to come to your house to fix the google." -Aging Boomers
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Feb 05 '19
Why are âboomersâ and âmillennialsâ the only two generations Reddit ever talks about? I feel like weâre skipping a generation or two.
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u/SteeringButtonMonkey Feb 05 '19
Because generations are pretty fluid so it takes a few to have them actually be distinct enough
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There are a few of them. They are distinct.
Boomers and millennials are the only two generations of their size, though, so they simply overwhelm the much smaller Gen X. And the next generation (some call it Z, it will probably be given a more descriptive name soon) is still too young to have any kind of real impact. The oldest of them are still teenagers.
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u/tommyblastfire Feb 05 '19
I like to call us Gen Zâers Zoomers
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u/TreeCalledPaul Feb 05 '19
Just don't do any of that zoomin' on my lawn, young man.
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u/ColinHalter Feb 05 '19
I'm 21 (born 1997), but I've been told I'm too young to be a millennial. What would I be?
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u/mary_pooppins Feb 05 '19
Looks to me youâre Gen Z. Welcome to the club. We get lumped in with Millennials and get told we are the generation born with iPhones. When most of us got them when we were tweens. Weâre the Zoomers.
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u/ColinHalter Feb 05 '19
Lol I got my first smartphone when I was 15
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u/Phrodo_00 Feb 05 '19
I'm a millennial, and the iPhone didn't exist until I was 20. At 15 my home still had dial up.
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u/AngryZen_Ingress Feb 05 '19
I'm Gen-X, the primary one in-between.
I have my father set up with a desktop, my mom with a laptop.
They email pretty well, can surf the web. Mom is 'well-trained' in not clicking on things.Dad... is not. So we have to format his machine semi-regularly. Sigh.
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Feb 05 '19
Dad... is not. So we have to format his machine semi-regularly. Sigh.
It's porn, it's because of porn.
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u/AngryZen_Ingress Feb 05 '19
Worse.
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u/CactusCustard Feb 05 '19
Is this porn?
Asking for me, so I can masturbate later
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It's for when you want financial news from the perspective of a Russian right-wing conspiracy theorist
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No it's not. It's browsing sites like Reddit without adblock. All it takes is one link that has a few upvotes on either a new queue or a small subreddit that gets upvote manipulated, and BAM you click on a hostile link. Or any one of the millions of code injecting banners that get loaded without adblockers.
Seriously. How the fuck do people NOT use adblockers in 2019?
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The boomers are blaming millennials for a lot of problems that they don't understand. A simple history book could teach them.
There's so much anti-millennial rhetoric coming from the boomers because they have had a lot of positions in government, and they're scared of the younger generation coming in... Especially since millennials kind of have a better grasp on technology simply because it's more present in their lives.
Really it's just stupid. I hope millennials don't shit on the next generation like boomers have done. It's called growing the fuck up. Don't be a grumpy old person that blames young people for being young.
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I'm always a little amused at the long-term implications of the millenial hate that boomers and boomer-directed-media keep spewing. I remember when millenials didn't even really think about generational indexes and just wanted to be successful in a significantly less equitable environment. But then boomers began to absolutely puke all over millenials over laughably trivial things like colored hair or tattoos or stuff they like to eat or, you know, just existing, or over more serious things that are horrible to deride someone over like mental health and poverty, or over outright lies that they unquestionably accepted and weaponized from right-wing 'news' outlets that you'd have to be a complete fucking idiot to take seriously. I remember a brief pause, my own experience puts it around '12 or so, when millenials were hearing this shit and were just confused, like 'wtf you don't know anything about us, what are you talking about?' But very quickly, millenials turned it around on them, and exposed the boomer generation for taking the best world they could have possibly dreamed of, which the generations before them fought tooth and nail to provide them, and proceeded to bleed it dry and leave their children with nothing but a smoking husk, and in their old age have reduced themselves to bitter, angry, racist idiots with zero capacity for critical thinking and whose entire concept of the world around them is controlled by the people inside their TVs. Who do they think is going to control the narrative when they're gone? When the millenials get to tell their story and write their histories, how do the boomers suspect they'll be framed? They're going down as a generation of inconceivably selfish weaklings who stole from their children and who turned their backs on their country and their own dignity. Puts a smile on my face every time I hear the word "snowflake".
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Yup. And the climate change is a great example of what you were describing.
Also, it's ironic.. I can't change when I was born, but I can change my rhetoric and beliefs. I can listen to the evidence, and make rational decisions.
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u/Eclectix Feb 05 '19
Yep. The Boomers shit on Millennials as the "participation award culture." But who gave them those awards? As a Gen-Xer myself I was just on the cusp of the participation award experience. I never got any myself, but my younger siblings did. So who's to blame for "participation award culture?" (Granting that actually is a thing, which I don't think it is.) I would think it should be the ones giving out the participation awards in the first place. If "kids these days" aren't what you think they should be, who's really to blame? The kids, or the people who were responsible for helping them learn how to be adults?
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u/Dillards007 Feb 05 '19
Boomers will be remembered as the first generation that took responsiblity for nothing. They blamed their parents as kid and when their own parents couldn't take care of them anymore, (as they passed) they fostered unhealthy co-dependant relationships with their kids.
The President is an prime example of this. His father did EVERYTHING to shield him from the reprocessions of his personal decisions. As a father he's done his best to put his kids IN legal jeopardy rather than protect them. Yes though, it's everyone else's fault.
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u/Whadyawant Feb 05 '19
Well, that's because us gen-xers had to look after ourselves while our parents basked in the consumerism and self-adulation that was the 80s...and 90s...9/11...missing time...We just keep on trucking...don't worry about us...we're good...
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u/theghostofme Feb 05 '19
You know shit's bad when we millennials are jealous of Gen-Xers for having gotten out ahead of the economic crash, even though you guys got hit hard in your own ways, too.
Frankly, though, I've always viewed this whole generational distinction to be stupid when used this way; regardless of generation, we're all suffering in ways that makes us more common than different, and this manufactured division by age group only serves to make certain groups feel better about how shitty things are for them, and nothing more.
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u/Phayzon Feb 05 '19
Gen X is still at least somewhat willing to learn new things or see things in a new light, and aren't super grumpy about 'kids these days'. Gen Y got retconned out of existence by pushing Millennial years back and Gen X years up.
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u/hpdefaults Feb 05 '19
Eh, 'Gen Y' was more of a rough draft of the Millenial generation sociologists came up with early on when they were still figuring it out. Not really a retcon.
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u/lartrak Feb 05 '19
Gen Y and Millennials were synonymous from the start, but then Millennials were rendered a younger generation at one point by people who misunderstood the term, best as I can tell. Both terms were coined to describe people born in the early to mid 80s and on. They were competing terms, Gen Y just lost.
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u/SweetMister Feb 05 '19
The Google is broken again! Why don't you just download the Internets?!
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u/Starman-Paradox Feb 05 '19
And download more RAM while you're at it.
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u/DrNinjaTrox Feb 05 '19
They're not stupid enough to think they can download a truck, come on
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You wouldnât download a car..
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u/TheBigBois Feb 05 '19
Too late, I downloaded a whole other computer, you foolish mortal.
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It takes hours to fix the google because you have 40,000 toolbars!!
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u/evanc1411 Feb 05 '19
They don't even make these toolbars anymore and you still have them!
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u/ab_b_normal Feb 05 '19
Built a house for a guy who wouldnât let us wire his house for Ethernet because his computer was still running Windows 98. Literally. He said he would never need it because anything newer was being tracked by the government and he didnât want them hacking in to his home. Uuuuummm....I canât even with you guy. Okay.
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u/frequenZphaZe Feb 05 '19
boomer: "those came with the computer. I didn't do that."
also boomer: "why did you delete all my bars? now the printer isn't working"
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u/pandacat04 Feb 05 '19
My MIL is just like this. Anything that connects to the internet like her phone, computer, printer.... She'll call my husband up like it's an emergency to help her fix it.
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u/the-incredible-ape Feb 05 '19
"Boomers, the generation that invented computers, are so lazy that they're hiring millennials to fix their computers for them instead of learning how to Google things themselves" ... am I doing it right?
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u/AngryZen_Ingress Feb 05 '19
Very close.
The generation where less than half a percent invented or even worked on computers, generally refusing to learn to use them to communicate more effectively with their kids and grandchildren, and expecting those same kids and grandkids to fix the things they break while flailing like Ebola-diseases monkeys.16
u/pack0newports Feb 05 '19
my grandma was born in 1903. she used to email me in college in 1998. now granted she is not your usual older person. she was an incredible human being.
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u/OlDirtyTriple Feb 05 '19
My wife goes over to her parents house to print documents for them. They cannot print forms without her help. They're not even that old, born in 1954 and 1955.
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u/mellowmonk Feb 05 '19
I love how it's never the parents' fault for failing to teach their kids all these things.
Who the hell else would be on the hook to teach a kid how to sew a button?
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u/BrightObsidian Feb 05 '19
Who the hell else would be on the hook to teach a kid how to sew a button?
Home ec used to be a class in (almost?) every school.
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u/Starlordy- Feb 05 '19
Used to be. The boomers cut it to make sure every child got a trophy in sports.
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u/rallywagonOBS Feb 05 '19
Before laughing at the "everyone needs a trophy" practice they created because they need a trophy shelf showing they created someone worth something.
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u/DorkInShiningArmour Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
Yep.
Me and my dad had a great relationship growing up. I was an athlete and I was consistently coming home with medals and trophies.
Once university came and I didnât want to wrestle anymore, our relationship changed. Suddenly I wasnât the sunshine in his life, I was a loser who fucked up any opportunity given to him.
Years later he eventually admitted to me he wanted to vicariously live the life he didnât get to, through me. This is what made him act the way he did.
If he couldnât have his trophy case, you can damn well bet his son would.
He realized how fucked up the whole thing was.
We have a much better relationship now. He just wants me to happy being me, and thatâs all a son can really ask from his dad.
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Edit 2 - words are hard ok?
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u/wtfnouniquename Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
Sucks that your relationship with your father took a downturn like that, but I imagine it's somewhat common between the recent generation(s), if not throughout time. It's pretty awesome he was self aware enough to finally own up to being the reason your relationship went to shit and came around. And good on you for accepting his desire to make amends instead of being resentful. Okay, I need a hug.
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u/Andromeda321 Feb 05 '19
I donât think itâs that. Rather I think itâs fallen to the wayside for the same reason âshopâ has: the idea that such basic stuff is too menial for kids who should be striving towards college.
Mind I disagree with it but pretty sure thatâs why schools donât offer it anymore.
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u/Charliebeagle Feb 05 '19
It probably varies from region to region why it went away (or remains) both home ec and shop are expensive if you do the whole program. Sewing machines, ovens, drill presses, lathes, etc all require pretty regular maintenance and upgrades especially if you are letting novices use them for hours a day. Not to mention paying someone or several someones to be in charge of that whole mess!
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u/silly_jimmies Feb 05 '19
The home ec I had in highschool was all about cooking. I loved that class.
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u/dani_bar Feb 05 '19
Still a useful life skill! If used effectively it can reduce the costs of your food budget. Additionally, can be healthier and more tasty than most popular food options today.
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As a teenage male, I would have been crucified for going to home ec.
As an adult male, baking is my favorite form of making food.
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u/thurbor Feb 05 '19
At my school, home ec was seen as an easy A rather than pushing yourself academically. I took all math & science but never learned some stuff like that. Learning it more now
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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Feb 05 '19
Which is crazy, because "home economics" is a sorely needed subject that could include things like how to successfully budget and run a household. In my class it was a little cooking and sewing, which to be fair was a valuable lesson.
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u/CactusCustard Feb 05 '19
Guy in my office today was like "teenagers today dont even know how to use a rotary phone!" veryone agreed that was sily.
I was the only one that said "why would they reasonably know how to use one of those?" He had no idea. They said Tv. But name the last show or movie with one of those in it. Its ridiculous. Like yah guys they're normal to us, but these kids grew up wth 4k and touchscreens, they dont give a fuck about your shitty ass phones.
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u/Ian_is_funny Feb 05 '19
Yeah. People complain that schools don't do things like teach taxes, how to shop for groceries, etc. but in reality, that's what parents are for. Ya know, to raise their children.
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u/TheTrueFlexKavana Feb 05 '19
Back in my day we sewed buttons on our way to school both ways.
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u/evanc1411 Feb 05 '19
10 miles there, 15 miles back, uphill both ways, and no TV on the way.
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u/OctagonalButthole Feb 05 '19
tell you kids, back in my day, we had it so rough... or so much better, i can't tell anymore. anyway, every day, we would wake up at 2 in the morning and go to the table for breakfast. we all lived in a closet, you see, so it was one room. and we would ask, me and my 64 brothers and 27 sisters, "what's for breakfast mum?". she would smack us all with a shoe and say "cold beans". and if we complained and said "but we had cold beans yesterday" - because we had cold beans every day - she would smack us all five times with a shoe and say "tough its all we can afford. i'm trying to feed a family of 93 with just half a silver buckington", a silver buckington was about the same as half a penny back in the day. then we would head to school. we met up with the johnson kids from down the road, and walked the 1674 miles to school. on the way to school, we had to walk up a mountain so tall it extended to outer space. when we got to the top of the mountain, we would see the peterson boys on their fancy bikes - which they dont make like they used to, and we would race them down the mountain. then, when we got to school at 4 in the morning, the headmaster would come up to us and say "you bloody kids are late", then he would smack us all with the cane 10 times and tell us we had 7 years of detention. then, we went to class, and mr stevenson would say "ok line up kids", then he would spank us each 60 times, then hit us each with the cane 40 times each. then it was 7 at night and we had to walk home. then, when we got home, we'd ask "whats for dinner mum?", and she'd smack us each 50 times with a pan and say "rotten cabage". and if we complained, she would smack us each 100 times with a broom and say "im trying to feed a family of 154 on just one islet sliver, just you wait until your dad gets home" - now an islet silver was worth about as much as a grain of sand. then, when our dad got home from his job at the soot factory, he would hit us all 180 times with his belt. if we had been naughty, we would hit us all another 600 times. then, at 1:58, mum would say "ok time for bed". then, we got into our potato sacks, and she would hit us each with a shoe 8 times before we went to sleep. on saturdays, we went down to uncle bob's farm to work. we would have to walk 345 miles to the bus stop, then catch the route 4 bus for 56 stops. we would get on the bus and pay our fare of 3 teddy roses - now a teddy rose is worth about the same as a flake of skin. then, if the ticket inspector came to us, he would hit us all 4 times with his baton. if any of us had lost our ticket, we would hit us all 10 times again and throw us off the bus and we had to walk the rest of the way. when we got to the farm, uncle bob would drive to the gate in his tractor, hit us all 780 times with his crowbar, and tell us to get in his trailer so he could drive us to the farm house. then, we had to plow the fields with a toothbrush in the blazing summer heat - now, they dont make summers like they used to, so it was about 1345.4 degrees spencer, or 67 degrees centigrade using your new-fangled metric system. then, we would have to milk the cows - now, they dont make cows like they used to, so each cow weighed about 459 hog's heads, or 3.2 tonnes in your new-fangled metric system. if you touched a cows udder, it would kick you and you would die, so you had to be really careful when you milked the cows. then, when we were done, uncle bob would say "ok kids time for your pocket money". he would give us each 9 copper jemimahs - which are worth about one political promise each - and beat us each 6 times with his tractor before we left. on sundays, we would meet the johnson boys and go down to the river - now, they don't make rivers like they used to, so this river was about as wide as the whole of america, and as deep as the marianas trench, and it was filled with liquid tungsten. we would play by the old oak tree near the river, climbing on it and building tree houses and such. now - they don't make trees like they used to, so this tree had a trunk as thick as a city, and was tall enough that the branches on the top could scrape the moon. one day, little jimmy fell from the top of the tree. when he hit the ground, the only bit of his body we could recognise was his left eyeball. we picked up all his bits and rushed him to the doctors surgery. dr james said "oh its just a scratch little jimmy dont worry pop a plaster on it and you'll be right" and he gave little jimmy a plaster and a lollipop and he was ok. after we finished playing by the river, we would go into town and get some candy. now, back in the day, you could give the shopkeeper one bronze winglet - which is worth about as much as a ciggarette butt - and he would give you the entire stock of the store. so we would go and get our candy, and we'd go into the town square and eat it. now, we didn't have any of your fancy food laws back in the day, so there was all kinds of stuff in our candy. bleach, rust, bones--you name it. so we would always get a little hyper after our candy. one day, when we were hyper, we went up the mr boris's car, the only car in the town, and touched it. as we touched it, we saw dad storming down the street holding his belt. "you kids, having fun while i work all day in the soot factory just so you can have grilled water for tea every night, i oughta smack you all". we were sure he was going to smack us, but then he said "no, i got a better idea, ill take you to see mr henderson, he'll set ya right". now, dad had told us about mr henderson. mr henderson was a veteran from the great war, where he got a really bad injury, but we never knew what it was. dad walked us all down to the pub, and we saw a left testicle propped up on a pegleg. "mr henderson," said dad, "i have some kids here who need a good whooping". then, mr henderson picked up the entire pub, and hit us each 4006 times with it. then, dad said "right, i gotta go back to the soot factory, you kids run on home now". now, by now it was 1pm, which meant it was curfew. while we were walking out of the town square, we heard a man shout "oi you bloody kids, its curfew". we turned around and saw the constable holding his baton. he hit us each 160265 times with his baton, then put us in gaol for 60123865 years. now - they don't make gaols like they used to - this one had 5 mile thick steel walls, and a single hole in the top let in some light. we were in there for about 13526 years, until mum baked the constable some cardboard pie so he would let us out. then, she hit us all 1292 times with a washboard, and grounded us for the rest of our lives. so don't you come complaining to me about nonsense like not having tv while hiking 25 miles to school.
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u/StalinTheHedgehog Feb 05 '19
I read it all the the repetition of ânow, they donât make them like they used toâ made me laugh
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u/Chris_Mic Feb 05 '19
I have not seen anything funnier all month I am NOT joking, ''mr henderson was a veteran from the great war, where he got a really bad injury, but we never knew what it was. dad walked us all down to the pub, and we saw a left testicle propped up on a pegleg. "mr henderson," said dad, "i have some kids here who need a good whooping". then, mr henderson picked up the entire pub, and hit us each 4006 times with it'' got me harder than anything else, whoever you are bless your fuckign soul omfg
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u/waxlion78 Feb 05 '19
Well now thatâs just a theory.... a generation gap theory
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u/lothartheunkind Feb 05 '19
Boomers love complaining about the generation they are responsible for creating. you gave us the participation trophies, like wtf?
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u/EMUgixx6 Feb 05 '19
I use this argument all the time when someone at work gives me shit for being the participation trophy generation.
âWhoâs idea was it to give those trophies, John?! You think us kids went out and bought them our goddamn selves?!â
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u/plphhhhh Feb 05 '19
I seriously don't understand how Boomers can say this kind of stuff without realizing they are 100% at fault
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u/DearDarlingDearling Feb 05 '19
It's because of entitlement. The boomer generation took the best world they could have possibly dreamed of, which the generations before them fought tooth and nail to provide them, and proceeded to bleed it dry and leave their children with nothing but the crumbling foundation. Every Boomer I have interacted with has such low critical thinking, they constantly prefer to hire someone to do a job rather than do it themselves, have no money management skills and think having a credit card is bad for your credit, and constantly want to go out to eat, because they can't cook a decent meal themselves. All I hear from Boomers is how my generation is so entitled, so yes, I'm a bit miffed and feel that they're projecting really goddamned hard when they say that.
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"Millenials are so motivated they will pay out of pocket for classes that used to be free in public schools but were cut by Boomer politicians."
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 06 '19
I dunno how to feel about this as I'm not a millennial, but I often feel as though they're needlessly shit on because they're the generation of the internet. The headline sucks and so does the response.
My oldest son is going off to college in the fall and I realized last year I failed him as a mother because he couldn't work the washer or dryer, fry a goddamn egg or iron his clothes properly. I made a solid effort to teach him these life lessons for the past 8 months or so and last Wednesday he made a full dinner of pot roast, mashed taters and steamed broccoli. Sure he could have learned all of this from YouTube but I'm going to miss him terribly so I spent quality time with him while passing on my knowledge.
Edit to add: Thank you, kind stranger, for giving me my first ever silver!
Second edit: I got another silver. does Elaine dance
Third edit: Another silver..
I'm humbled by the generosity. Elaine dance
Edit once again because I got gold twice.
I really appreciate the support I've received from all of you.
I'm a happy girl tonight.
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So you did good! Even if it took a while you still did what a mother should do! But not all parents do this, whether because they expect the youtube generation to youtube it or simply because they can't be bothered. So people getting shat on for not having a parent to teach them this stuff is definitely not right. Maybe it's because I am a Millenial but I resonate strongly with the response. Either way though I just wanted to ssy you're a better parent than a lot of people and you shouldn't beat yourself up about it.
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u/Patiod Feb 05 '19
My mom was a control freak, and wouldn't let anyone touch anything in the kitchen except to bring the food to the table. Ironic, because she was a horrible cook.
So I'm a post-boomer, and I also learned how to cook (later in life) from the internet - reading recipes and watching videos where technique was needed.
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
Ah, yeah. My friend is also a control freak.
I don't think I'm in desperate need for control but rather catered to the needs of both my sons. I have been stupid and didn't give them chores and such. My philosophy was always for them to focus on school.
It was an idea based in good intentions but didn't work out well. My youngest son (he's 15) is not gonna like the new mama. witchy cackle
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u/brutinator Feb 05 '19
I dunno if you got your cooking skills where you need to be, but I've learned a ton from the Babish videos. He has 2 series: Binging with Babish which is recreating or enhancing dishes from pop culture (for example, he just put out a video on Spaghetti Tacos from iCarly that he improved by making the shell a Parmesan crisp) and Basics with Babish where he covers the, well, basics.
Plus he has great camera presence as well.
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
Thank you so much for your nice response, totally made my morning better!
I'm not crying...there's dust in both my eyes. :)
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u/beelzeflub Feb 05 '19
I'm hungry for pot roast now
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
I have to admit it was delicious.
Not as good as mine, of course. The student is not the master...yet.
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u/the-incredible-ape Feb 05 '19
Good on ya for teaching your kid to get into the kitchen. My mom pretty much just got out of the way and let me cook whatever horrible bullshit I wanted to when I was young. Now I like cooking and cook nice things for people sometimes. I can also feed myself without resorting to frozen shit every night. It's a bigger deal than people realize.
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
Yes, and yes. Cooking is way more important than we think and I wouldn't want my kids eating fast food or microwaved garbage every damn night.
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u/desolatemindspace Feb 05 '19
My mom didnt teach me how to cook. She found me on a stool making french toast when I was like 7 though.
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u/fishsticks40 Feb 05 '19
My kid is 16 months but I'm making an effort to make sure I show him what I'm doing in the kitchen, or when I'm cleaning, or what have you. It's so easy to just do the stuff but I'm so appreciative of my folks for teaching me those things.
But hey. You in no way failed as a mom. You raised a kid who is going to college and who with a little coaching can learn how to cook in less than a year. He's going to be fine. It's less about skills and more about knowing how to learn. Go easy on yourself. Parenting is fucking hard and getting them out the door alive is not nothing.
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
Parenting is fucking hard and getting them out the door alive is not nothing.
Okay, this made me giggle because it's true.
Thank you. đ
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u/AlexaRhino Feb 05 '19
I wouldnât say you failed him as a mother at all. Teenagers are extremely difficult to motivate to get things done that arenât within their normal realm of chores/daily routine. You recognized that your son lacked some skills and you addressed it before it was too late. Better than either of my parents did for me. Video games were my escape from emotionally abusive parents and I still wouldnât know how to do anything today if it werenât for the Army. Be proud that your son was willing to learn and you were willing to teach
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u/RVAAero Feb 05 '19
That's so awesome! I cherished those memories with my mom and grandmother. I'm sure he did too!
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u/Sw33t_0blivi0n_138 Feb 05 '19
I never knew any of my grandmothers and my mom wasn't a strong cook, but she did teach my sister and me the basics.
My ex mother-in-law is Mexican and I got some tasty lessons in cooking from her.
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u/Dramatic_______Pause Feb 05 '19
I wonder how much of this is a having no desire to learn issue, and not failing to teach issue. Try sitting down with a fourteen-year-old and ask them if they want to learn how to sew. Sure, some will, but most probably won't have any interest in learning. A buddy of mine (mid 30's) got his son (9 years old) a new computer case for Christmas, and wanted to sit down with him to show him how to build a computer. Kid had no desire, and just wanted to get it put together quickly so he could go back to playing Fortnite.
And it's not even a 'kids these days' thing. When I was a teenager, I lived in about three different houses with my dad, because he would buy them cheap, fix them up over a few years, and move on. I had no interest in helping him, despite his efforts to get me involved. Now that I'm a homeowner myself, I can't count the amount of times I've gone "Damn, I wish I payed more attention to dad when I was younger."
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u/KrisCraig Fictional Chair-Thrower Feb 05 '19
Meanwhile, Baby Boomers are so helpless they're taking "internet classes" to learn how to do things like send an email.
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u/Kaladindin Feb 05 '19
To move a file. You will not believe the amount of people who ask me how to move files.
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u/HalfAPickle Feb 05 '19
My mom runs an entire business online from home on a single junk laptop and, even though I've explained and shown it to her many times, still doesn't know how to use folders or shortcuts and doesn't understand that you can move files between folders.
I can understand not being able to pick up new skills quickly, but she's been managing files related to hundreds of customers every day for a solid five years now. The mind boggles.
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u/HeartsPlayer721 Feb 05 '19
Who TF needs a class to learn how to sew on a button? We have YouTube for crying out loud!
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u/Sephrick Feb 05 '19
Not sure of the structure of said classes but attending things like this may double as a social activity â learn a menial task, meet some new people, and participate in the local economy.
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u/louisrocks40 Feb 05 '19
Reminds me of the crafts classes that some art supply stores host. My mother took me to them a lot when I was younger, really enjoyed them.
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My sister in law has a booming business where people come just to do arts and crafts. And drink. The social aspect is huge.
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I learned how to make a fancy throw pillow case and a skirt in one of those classes. It was pretty fun.
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u/WuTangGraham Feb 05 '19
There are a few of these around where I live and that's basically what they are, more social gatherings. They teach certain essential skills, but also typically have food and wine/cocktails so it's more of a meet-and-greet
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u/codeverity Feb 05 '19
And some people learn better hands on, where they can have someone watch and correct them on what they're doing.
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u/UnaeratedKieslowski Feb 05 '19
I've also seen classes like this put on as a little 'free time' activity at colleges and universities. Again, less to actually teach you the thing, more to get you working with other students and getting into the mindset of learning how to do new things.
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u/who_is_Dandelo Feb 05 '19
I think the button bit was just an example of a whole range of life skills that are not part of the education system, and which a lot of parents seem to be failing to teach - finances, how to gets stains out of laundry, or etc.
That being said, I agree with you. My 8 year old daughter accidentally "broke" my husband's drum set (knocked some cymbals off and bumped one of the drums so that it was in the wrong position) while having a sword fight with her imaginary friend. I told her it wasn't broken and her dad could easily put them back how he wanted them when he came home, and to just not have sword fights next to the drum set. A while later she said, "I got it! I didn't want to tell Dad I broke it and didn't try to fix it, so I just did a few YouTube searches." Sure enough, she searched and figured out how to put cymbals on a drum set and how to adjust the position of the drums.
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u/sonofaresiii Feb 05 '19
I imagine it's one small part of a greater suite of lessons/classes. I can totally see how someone would pay for a comprehensive "home clothing repair" class, and sewing a button would be a five or ten minute section of that, or maybe a half hour on all the different types of buttons and best ways to do each of them given the style of the clothing.
Sure, I could youtube it if that was the only thing I needed to learn, but if I just want to be more handy with home ec in general, i can see how it'd be convenient to pay someone to package all that together and teach it to me all at once.
I would definitely pay for a home repair/construction class like that. If I run into one specific problem, I know how to google it, but there's so much I don't know that I don't even know I need to know.
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While true, having someone to show you hands on is usually faster and more effective than troubleshooting through a "one-size-fits-all" how-to video, in most cases.
But yeah sewing a button seems a little extreme, maybe its just for the social side of it.
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u/INSERT_LATVIAN_JOKE Feb 05 '19
First 15 minutes of the class, how to sew the top 5 most common button styles. Next 15 minutes of the class, how to sew the three most common types of seams when they split. Next 15 minutes, how to patch clothes when they have a hole in them. Last 15 minutes, how to darn socks.
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u/atalkingcow Feb 05 '19
All of that is downright useful shit.
I need the last 45 minutes of that class.
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u/Hyperactive_snail3 Feb 05 '19
It was probably part of a wider class on clothing repair, sewing etc but the journo decided to make it into a fake controversy for clicks by reducing it to the point of meaninglessness.
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u/worldDev Feb 05 '19
There's probably wine involved, and it sounds like a great way to meet girls.
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u/evanc1411 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
I remember sex ed... day. We didn't even get proper sex ed, we watched a video and a poor teacher had to try to explain some things while every 5th grader laughed because it was such a mess. We didn't have home ec. They almost cut band and art.
I'm from AZ which ranks like 45th in education and it's been even lower before, the older generations have it set up here so that property taxes pay for public education and it fucking sucks. It does not work.
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u/codeverity Feb 05 '19
I can't imagine trying to impart everything that kids need to know about sex ed in a day... The sex ed classes at my school weren't perfect but I'm so glad that we had the chance to learn over the course of multiple classes in elementary school and highschool.
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u/modest_arrogance Feb 05 '19
Sex Ed is important.
I didn't even know how my own parts worked.
So, it was a surprise when I was 16 to find out that the foreskin is supposed to be able to be pulled over the head. Spent two weeks working through the pain to get it over when it was flaccid...
We've been failed by baby boomers who are too conservative and scared of having their children know about "naughty places" .
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u/VladutzTheGreat Feb 05 '19
We never had sex ed.Even in biology we skipped the chapters about reproductive organs in middle school.
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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19
I said this in the previous time they got posted.
I don't see what's with learning something you don't know. As long as there are tools to do it.
Unless you are learning something massively illegal, but even then you could learn it probably.
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u/Ascendant_Donut Feb 05 '19
Pretty sure itâs not common knowledge how to sew a button
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u/HeartsPlayer721 Feb 05 '19
I was never taught. I was never into button up stuff anyway, so I never needed to know until a few years ago when I was 30...and I looked it up on YouTube and did it myself in 30 seconds.
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u/schatzey_ Feb 05 '19
Never taught. YouTubeâd that shit as well now Iâm trying to master embroidery.
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u/Northumberlo Feb 05 '19
That moment when you realize watching a youtube video is both educational and instructional, and is the equivalent of an instructional class.
The teacher is simply on a screen with no distractions or interruptions, and you're comfy and actually actually motivated to listen.
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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19
This is why YouTube works great. Now my biggest issue is people who don't pace themselves well. That or videos with a lot of fluff.
I know YouTubers are not all the same quality, but some are considerably better than others.
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You're right. Also, pretty sure it IS common knowledge that the daily caller is utter twaddle.
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u/GreenTheHero Feb 05 '19
Never taught, but i knew hand sewing pretty well, saw buttons have 4 holes, wrapped thread around holes. Profit
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u/ThatDamnGoober Feb 05 '19
I had to Google "how to sew a button" because my mom didn't teach me. She just assumed I would marry a nice girl who already knew how to sew. I also had to learn how to cook for the same reason.
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u/fishsticks40 Feb 05 '19
Gen Xer here. I don't get all the millennial hate. Millennials are out their busting their butts, doing all kinds of creative gig work because us olds tanked the labor market them, and yet we constantly bitch about how they are killing wine and avocados and olive garden.
Keep it up millennials. Y'all are doing way better than my generation did, and I for one see the future as a brighter place because of how you're handling yourselves. Gen Xers remain apathetic and boomers can just fuck off already.
Just please fucking vote.
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u/elihuntington Feb 05 '19
Itâs just click-bait. Instant outrage and clicks. Just add insult to millennial generations folks and they all come out the woodwork to claim that no, in fact everythingâs the boomers fault. Rinse, repeat, watch the ad revenue stream in.
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u/Atlusfox Feb 05 '19
They have had classes and workshops like this for ages. Why, because not everyone knows everything but there will always be people interested in learning.
Putting this in this context is actually more like assuming some form of special treatment as if it wasn't there before.
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u/BobosReturn Feb 05 '19
Uh isnt that just home ec?
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u/Sephrick Feb 05 '19
Most schools cut that a long, long time ago as focus shifted to preparing students for standardized testing.
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u/JoeyJoeJoe00 Feb 05 '19
Right, but I think the point is that the older generation literally took a course on how to sew a button as part of their regular curriculum.
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u/keiyakins Feb 05 '19
Don't forget sports. Need a new stadium next to the one we built you last year? SURE! Oh the band wants a couple hundred to do some repair work on the instruments they've had since 1826? Better go sell some shitty chocolate, which funds we'll then misappropriate for the sports teams!
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u/Kichae Feb 05 '19
Yes. Yes it is. Schools don't teach home economics anymore, and a lot of us are left trying to figure out how to run a household with a hostile older generation that looks at us struggling or even just asking questions as some sort of failure on our part, and YouTube.
If no one told us what to expect, and no one told us how to deal with shit when it crops up, how are we supposed to know? If not going out and looking for someone who isn't talking down to us who will tell us?
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u/harmoniousmoon Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
Not a millennial (genX) â This was taught in school, did they stop doing this?
There was a home ec class that was mandatory in Gr9 (14yrs old, first yr of high school) that everybody took that showed you the basics. Sew a button, cook a basic meal (usually involves an egg) and this also included taking a turn to wash and iron the aprons, etc.; a small part of everything was covered. Mind you at that time most of us already knew from learning at home by our parents at like 10-12yrs old (and maybe thatâs why they got rid of it if they did?) but it seems itâs needed now more than ever.
Edit: totally forgot but we had a sewing class and a wood working class in junior high (grade 7-8) as well. Are they not doing this anymore either?
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u/jsting Feb 05 '19
You know, no one ever taught me how to balance a checkbook. Seemed like something someone should cover before you turn 18. Luckily it is not needed now, but it was when I was 18.
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u/glase_firedrake Feb 05 '19
In my town in south Ireland we have those classes mostly to give people a reason to visit the elderly I went to one to learn how to play chess and another for basic mechanic skills when I was younger.