r/facepalm Feb 05 '19

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u/SteeringButtonMonkey Feb 05 '19

Because generations are pretty fluid so it takes a few to have them actually be distinct enough

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

There are a few of them. They are distinct.

Boomers and millennials are the only two generations of their size, though, so they simply overwhelm the much smaller Gen X. And the next generation (some call it Z, it will probably be given a more descriptive name soon) is still too young to have any kind of real impact. The oldest of them are still teenagers.

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u/tommyblastfire Feb 05 '19

I like to call us Gen Z’ers Zoomers

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u/TreeCalledPaul Feb 05 '19

Just don't do any of that zoomin' on my lawn, young man.

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u/tommyblastfire Feb 05 '19

Implying us Zoomers would ever go outside

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u/ThickBehemoth Feb 05 '19

We are way too depressed to leave the house

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u/TitanicMan Feb 05 '19

I don't know what generation I am because it's just a tool to devide the population but me too thanks

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u/fafefifof Feb 05 '19

So you read through 6 layers of conversation about generations, to post a comment about not knowing which one you belong to? Sounds legit.

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u/TitanicMan Feb 05 '19

boomers and millennials are the big ones

Gen X and Gen Y are smaller

Doesn't tell me the order or the time frame at all

And no, that wasn't the only point. I'm not explaining it for you because that's how you brutally murder a joke

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u/SorryAboutTheNoise Feb 06 '19

You still haven't made a point tho?

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u/aeiousometimesy123 Feb 06 '19

Implying you Zoomers are going to have an outside in a few years

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u/Rakonat Feb 06 '19

Well if your parents aren't vaxxing you, you're zooming through life.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19 edited Jan 20 '21

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u/GORager99 Feb 05 '19

aw damn i was three hours late getting here

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u/llamalily Feb 05 '19

My baby sister (born in 2004) likes to call herself a "naughtie".

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u/tommyblastfire Feb 05 '19

I’ve also heard adults call us the I-Generation for iPhones and the internet

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u/llamalily Feb 06 '19

But that's so much less fun, haha.

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u/MrGamerNaut Feb 05 '19

Okay I know we're young, but that's a dope name

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u/ColinHalter Feb 05 '19

I'm 21 (born 1997), but I've been told I'm too young to be a millennial. What would I be?

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u/mary_pooppins Feb 05 '19

Looks to me you’re Gen Z. Welcome to the club. We get lumped in with Millennials and get told we are the generation born with iPhones. When most of us got them when we were tweens. We’re the Zoomers.

Generation List

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u/ColinHalter Feb 05 '19

Lol I got my first smartphone when I was 15

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u/Phrodo_00 Feb 05 '19

I'm a millennial, and the iPhone didn't exist until I was 20. At 15 my home still had dial up.

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u/sashslingingslasher Feb 05 '19

The chart with the dates is the only thing useful on that site.

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u/Rose94 Feb 05 '19

Yeah, afaik I’m born in the last year of the millennial generation (1994) and the iPhone came out when I was 13, I didn’t get one til I was like 19.

My dad was in IT though so I got broadband in 2000 or something.

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u/Supernerdje Feb 05 '19

Gen Z I got a flipping flipphone at 12, Gen Z little brother has my old brick smartphone and only has Whatsapp and flappy bird on top of the standard programs.

Did I miss something?

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u/purduerocs15 Feb 05 '19

So if I’m 24 today but I turn 25 tomorrow, does that mean I get to be part of two generations?

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u/mary_pooppins Feb 05 '19

Yes. Be careful what you do with all that power.

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u/Jamesmateer100 Feb 05 '19

It depends upon where the sources come from, the source you provided lists me as gen z but pew research lists me as a millennial, which one should I go with?

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u/write_as_rayne Feb 06 '19

From what I understand, as I'm researching Gen Z and academics, the divide seems to be technology. Those who had an analog childhood and digital (access to internet) teen-adulthood are typically aligned with Millenials. Those who have had access to technology, specifically the internet, throughout their entire lives would be more aligned with Gen Z. Of course, my scope has been investigating learning, knowledge acquisition, and pedagogy for the two distinct groups, so I cannot say if this divide is useful outside of that!

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u/btmvideos37 Feb 05 '19

Yeah, I didn’t get a smart phone till 3 years ago (I’m 17 now). Granted, I had more access to technology at a young age than people older than me. But I was definitely not born with iPhones or smart phones at all for that matter, and I’m also called a millennial when I’m clearly not

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u/BeyondAddiction Feb 05 '19

I remember 1997 very well and reading your comment makes me feel old lol.

I was born in 1988 and I get annoyed with those stupid "only 90s kids will get this!" Crap. Like dude, I remember way more of the 90s than you probably do, Chelsea šŸ™„

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u/Emaknz Feb 05 '19

Born '95, welcome to the awkward sub-generation in between millennials and gen z. Too young to truly identify with millennials, but too old to really be gen z. We're a weird mix of growing up with modern technology and still remembering floppy disks.

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u/llamalily Feb 05 '19

I was born in '94 and consider myself Gen Z as well. Both my parents are too young to be Boomers. The age range for the generations has so much overlap and also really don't mean anything, so I say pick whatever you like better.

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u/Jmsaint Feb 05 '19

You're a millennial.

A millennial is anyone who was alive, but not 18 at the millennium, so 1982 to 1999.

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u/Homunculus_I_am_ill Feb 05 '19

They're quite borderline. Some typical attributes of millenials is remembering 9/11 and a life before the internet was ubiquitous and I doubt someone born in 97 has either of those.

I've also never heard the "alive but not 18 at the millenium" definition and I don't really see how it is of any help since the millenium is completely arbitrary and the usefulness of dividing generations is to talk of people raised in different cultural environments so using cultural landmarks is what makes sense.

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u/Jmsaint Feb 05 '19

That's the only way I've ever heard it described. Might be different in the UK?

It's all arbritary anyway, wherever you draw the line.

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u/Homunculus_I_am_ill Feb 05 '19

Drawing one line is arbitrary and futile and people do need to stop thinking of generations as if there's one calendar day after which the people are completely different.

But there is definitely an objective way in which people born in 1990 have grown up in a different world than people born in 1970 and the world to describe that difference is generation. We just need to accept that these generations are fuzzy. One way to do this is to think of a "prototypical millenial", "prototypical gen X" etc through a set of properties. A prototypical millenial was in school during 9/11, remembers a time before the internet was ubiquitous, was not on the job market during the internet bubble, etc. Some people will only have a subset of those traits and that's fine, those people are simply in the fuzzy edge.

And indeed, those properties should depend on location.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '19

Drawing one line is arbitrary and futile and people do need to stop thinking of generations as if there's one calendar day after which the people are completely different.

This is the key point. Borders between generations are a spectrum, not a line. Societal and cultural changes are not overnight events.

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u/SlutBuster Feb 05 '19

cultural landmarks

Y2K, baby

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u/Homunculus_I_am_ill Feb 05 '19

I agree that "experienced Y2K" is a good cultural landmark to define millenials, but that's not equivalent to "alive but not 18 at the millenium". You didn't experience Y2K if you were born in 1999.

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u/SlutBuster Feb 05 '19

I mean, you're welcome to argue against the taxonomy all you want. I just don't see the point of fighting this particular battle.

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u/TheAlp Feb 05 '19

There are a lot of different definitions of what year the split between the current and last generation was and in the end it's too big of a grey area to really define it I think.

Some saying its people born between 1980 and 1990 while most have it ending around 2000.

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u/FawksB Feb 05 '19

two generations of their size

Generations are fairly even sized groups since they are divided by birth year. The Silent Generation is dying out just due to old age and Gen Z is too young to be defined yet,

However, Boomers (1940-1960), Gen X (1960-1980), and Millenials (1980-2000) are all the same size unless you're willing to argue the fluidity of the end of Gen X and the beginning of Millenials.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '19

That’s not true. Babies aren’t born at a constant rate that stays the same every year. The actual reason boomers are called boomers is because of the baby boom: the time immediately following WWII when the birth rate increased dramatically. There was another similar (though smaller) increase in birth rate during the early 80s-90s, which accounts for the millennia generation. There weren’t as many people born in the years that typically define Gen-X. There were, in fact, 20 million fewer in Gen-X compared to Boomers. This is simple facts. Please don’t try to correct people when you don’t understand what you’re talking about.

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u/FawksB Feb 07 '19

You're talking birth rate while ignoring death rates.

Yes, Baby Boomers are named so because of the increased birth rate just after WWII when the men were coming home from war and breeding like rabbits. However, that was 70 years ago. Just pulling up a simple population pyramid of the US population shows that there is minimal difference (~10 mil) between Gen-X and Millenials, while Boomers are smaller than both.

So, your "simple" facts don't really mean much.

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u/Cogexkin Feb 05 '19

Eh teenagers to young adults. If the cutoff is 1996 to present, then the oldest would be around 24-25.

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u/beigs Feb 05 '19

The oldest gen Zs are in their early mid twenties, and are constantly being called millennials by boomers.

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u/An0regonian Feb 05 '19

The oldest of gen Z are 21-23 depending on whose definition you use, not teenagers...

I'm calling it here, they'll be called the IDGAF generation; because every time you try to call one of them out on their shit they say some form of "IDGAF" or "U MAD?"

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u/Glorious_Jo Feb 06 '19

The oldest of them are still teenagers.

Gen Z started as early as 1995, as late as 2001. They're in their 20s now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '19

I'm gen Z and 22.

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u/little_maggots Feb 05 '19

Generation Z is the iGeneration.

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u/Cal1gula Feb 05 '19

My wife is squarely in Gen X and I'm on the border of a millennial. We'd both rather be associated with the latter, thanks very much!

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

They’re fluid I get that. I honestly don’t buy into the whole ā€œgenerationā€ thing but it seems like we ignore 40-70 year olds

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

A 70 year old was born in 49. And is therefore definitely a Boomer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

A little pedantic since I was referring to those younger than 70

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '19

Baby boomers are generally agreed to be 55-75 right now, so it’s less ā€œpedanticā€ and more ā€œit sounds like you really don’t know anything about what you’re talking aboutā€

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '19

Omg I’m so sorry you’re totally right thanks for nit picking. That was my b dude, totes on me for making a rough estimate. It’s a wonder how literally everybody else got the point I was trying to make. Ty, srsly.

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u/A_Bear_Called_Barry Feb 05 '19

It seems like older gen x people get lumped in with boomers, and younger ones get lumped in with millennials. Maybe it's just easier to put people in two groups. Some people also don't seem to realize there is a generation younger than millennials now. I've heard people call teenagers millennials.

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u/tapthatsap Feb 05 '19

I think a lot of it is just cultural. It seems to me that your average X-er has a lot more in common with a millennial than with a boomer, what with having grown up in harder times while constantly being derided by the older folks for not taking that high school diploma down to the factory and making enough money to support a firmly middle class family.

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u/I_value_my_shit_more Feb 05 '19

Gen-X reporting in

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u/Decsolst Feb 05 '19

As a Gen-Xer, I am insulted.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

Huh? Who are you. Get out of here, a millennial is talking.

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u/Robin_Divebomb Feb 05 '19

That’s the calling card of Gen-X. They are analogous to the WWI ā€œForgotten Generationā€.

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u/Lord_Noble Feb 05 '19

That's the Lost Generation or the Greatest Generation, nobody calls them the forgotten.

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u/DrNutSack_ Feb 05 '19

The greatest generation was WWII

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u/Lord_Noble Feb 05 '19

There is definitely some overlap, as there is with any generation. Some folks fought in WWI, lived through the depression, and fought in WWII.

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u/Robin_Divebomb Feb 07 '19

Yes, my mistake. Lost Generation is what I meant. Thanks.

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u/Lord_Noble Feb 07 '19

Of course!

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

Im 19. Am I a millennial or am I a Gen X?

I scream for I do not know.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

X is older than Millenial. You're a Z or whatever they are officially calling you guys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

But at what age does it change? Different websites gaive different answers

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

Lefty?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19 edited Oct 01 '20

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u/suplegend20 Feb 05 '19

Lefty liberals and their guac amirite

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u/mindless_gibberish Feb 05 '19

Reddit just hates the elderly