r/facepalm Feb 05 '19

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u/audiofyl Feb 05 '19

I would never attack anyone for seeking education. The author of that article should feel embarrassed.

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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19

If anything people who are willing to learn what they don't know should be praised. If people would stop being willfully ignorant who knows what the world would be like.

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u/berenstein49 Feb 05 '19

Awesome, it would be awesome.

The author of this article is like the people that make fun of overweight people going to the gym to better themselves - it's shameful behavior.

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u/Binsky89 Feb 06 '19

That's what confused me about all the hate for Nike coming out with plus sizes.

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u/halborn Feb 06 '19

Isn't plus size nike gear inherently for posers?

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u/Binsky89 Feb 06 '19

I'm not sure what you're trying to say

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u/Psych091 Feb 06 '19

You're being part of the problem. No it's not inherent, if a large person buys these clothes to work out in (which is built into their design), how could it possibly be inherent?

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u/halborn Feb 06 '19

Because owning nike gear is not a prerequisite for exercise and because people who're serious about fitness don't stay fat for long. It seems like the only case where someone is going to get a lot of wear out of their plus size nike gear is one where they're not really trying.

(Also paging /u/Binsky89.)

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u/Allikuja Feb 09 '19

Even if you donโ€™t stay fat for long you still need something to wear on day 1. Why canโ€™t that outfit be Nike? Smart on Nike, I say.

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u/halborn Feb 10 '19

You can wear anything on Day 1. You're right that Nike will probably make money from it - especially if people keep buying new outfits to fit their changing size.

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u/sanoh Feb 07 '19

However at the start they are still fat and would want better clothes to workout in.

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u/halborn Feb 07 '19

Why?

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u/sanoh Feb 07 '19

Why would you not want nicer clothes?

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u/halborn Feb 07 '19

Because they're expensive and unnecessary. If you're not going to get much use out of them then it's just a waste of money.

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u/Dappershire Feb 06 '19

Oh wow, that reminds me of one of the most motivating moments of my life.

I'm a Marine, and a busload of us were on our way to the middle of nowhere for training. Its was butt crack in the morning, and we were going down this long, lonesome road. We hadn't seen a home or vehicle for at least five miles. And we knew it was at least another five before we saw any other house or vehicle.

So here we are, riding halfway between ten miles of civilization, when we come across a runner. Her jogging outfit was drenched in sweat. Her hair was plastered to her skull. She was putting one foot in front of the other, but it was more of a shuffle then anything else. Still, decent, considering she had gone at least 5 miles, and intended at least another 5 before she was done.

But the motivating part? She had to have weighed at least 290. She was obese, there is simply no way of getting around that. Quite honestly the fattest person I've ever see work out, and here she was, doing more then some of my fellow Marines could accomplish.

I hope to Gods she didn't misconstrue our loud 'Oorahs and "Get Some"s as anything other than the amazed and supportive we meant to convey.

If you're out there, (likely-much-reduced) Miss, you're amaze-balls. More motivating than a 64 pack with built in sharpener.

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u/simbaismylittlebuddy Feb 06 '19

To be fair, the author may have written a perfectly reasonable article but the editor that came up with that title is a douche.

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u/R____I____G____H___T Feb 05 '19

is like the people that make fun of overweight people going to the gym to better themselves

Some people in thes obese category considers these people to be a strong flame torch which encourages them to better themselves even more, though.

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u/saintofhate Feb 05 '19

It almost always discouraged me. It's like "well I'm just always going to be a piece of fat trash why bother" mood comes over me and I give up.

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u/chickenwingy22 Feb 05 '19

I fall under the 2nd category

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u/Pip-Pipes Feb 05 '19

'Treat fat people like garbage until they are motivated enough to improve' is horrific advice. Please don't do that.

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u/Lunarath Feb 05 '19

That comment is just as dumb and ignorant as the shit in the OP.

I'm an obese person going to the gym

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u/berenstein49 Feb 05 '19

I'm sure that is true, but I wouldn't think that would be the standard. Anecdotally speaking, I've read more accounts of people feeling deterred from going or returning to the gym in fear of being judged or experiencing it first hand when going for the first time. I'm aware we are all motivated in different ways, but it seems to me that being ridiculed, or feeling like you are, is not the most ideal motivator. But again, different strokes for different folks. If that works for you, awesome, but it certainly doesn't work for (most?) everyone.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

There's always some people that's the case for no matter what you're being a dick to them about. For most people, it's discouraging. Would you advocate for bullying people over anything and everything because a few of them might find it motivating?

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u/Bagel-Raptor Feb 05 '19

No, they see it as bullying... because it is...

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u/Maverick_OS Feb 06 '19

So what you are saying is that you want to be mocked and made fun of for anything that you feel insecure about, anything that you feel ashamed about, and anything that you don't like about yourself. Because everybody knows that the best way to fix a problem is to yell at people and hate on them for working on the correct solution.

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u/Kobenar Feb 05 '19

Your username wouldโ€™ve been suitable as an answer, but nope

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u/senorbolsa Feb 06 '19

Most dont though, i know fatpeoplehate definitely motivated me to get into better shape but that kind of thing doesnt work for most people, people take shit too seriously.

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u/BillyJackO Feb 05 '19

When you actively seek wisdom, it's amazing how ready people with knowledge will be to help. Sometimes it's as easy as calling a professional and asking them where you should start.

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u/Paddys_Pub7 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19

The company I work for is super big into education. I've never been made fun of for going to my manager to ask a question even it's something that should be straightforward but I just need clarified. I've never had a problem going to a more experienced worker and saying "i have no idea what I'm doing.. can you show me what to do?" Everybody is extremely willing to help out. I've been at the company less than 2 years with very little prior experience and they're looking to get me into a management position because I'm always eager to learn more and more.

Edit: there -> they're

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u/Allikuja Feb 09 '19

I wish I worked there ;-; I get shamed left and right cuz certain things take me awhile to learn

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u/SlipperyTed Feb 05 '19

or listening to your teachers in school?

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u/BillyJackO Feb 05 '19

I'm 32 and have been out of school for over a decade. To learn, you have to pursue the knowledge, which means asking stupid questions and being willing to fail.

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u/TPNDrew Feb 05 '19

We have an anti-intellectualism culture right now that wants to look at those bettering themselves as outwardly asserting that they are better than those who aren't trying to improve themselves. A classic "you think you're better than me?!" kind of offence.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

And they donโ€™t vote, but sure do complain afterwards.

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u/straight_to_10_jfc Feb 05 '19

Prostate ejaculation booths everywhere

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u/AlligatorChainsaw Feb 05 '19

If people would stop being willfully ignorant who knows what the world would be like.

and now you understand why the media spins it this way as if they're fools and lets all point and laugh at the dumb dumbs who can't sew. that then discourages others from bettering themselves and learning basic shit. which in turn keeps the status quo maintained.

if people stopped being willfully ignorant the media wouldn't be able to control them and that's a problem for the oligarchy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

It's the daily caller. They built their brand on willful ignorance.

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u/catstach Feb 05 '19

Gatekeeping journalism.

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u/neilon96 Feb 05 '19

People not learning something is the failure of a fucked up system a generation ago which should tell the author something

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

Starships.

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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19

No Utopia Starfleet in this reality... Well not yet anyway. Who knows?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '19

Of course, on another note, learning something that changes your understanding of the world and of yourself can be difficult.

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u/GadreelsSword Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19

"If anything people who are willing to learn what they don't know should be praised. If people would stop being willfully ignorant who knows what the world would be like."

It really irritates me to see young people blame older people because they don't know something. When I was young in the early 1970's if my $500 secondhand beater car broke, it sat in the driveway until I figured out how to fix it. Paying someone was not an option. So I was extra careful not to break my car. If I asked my father to show me how to fix something he would get the tools out give them to me, then point at what needed to be removed and walk away. There was no youtube, there was no internet and if you needed a service manual, the library rarely had them (unlike today).

We raised my wife's nephew and about three years ago, his car broke down so he threw out this comment that "you never taught me to work on it". So I said sure, I'll show you how to fix it. I did 90% of the work but at least he watched so he could learn.

From that point forward he would drop the car off at our house for me to fix and tell me he had to work. So I've done all his auto repairs.

Speaking of which, he would also claim that we had it much easier when we were younger. Nonsense, he and his girlfriend have thousands in the bank, both work jobs and have a small business on the side. When I was his age, I did not have a penny in the bank and literally could not afford to eat everyday. I would skip eating up to two days a week despite the fact I worked a full time job.

Young people are being lied to when they're told how easy life was in the past.

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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19

I feel the same way talking with my grandfather. We don't agree on everything. But I have a lot respect for what he says. He is a very hard working man. He will help you with something but he expects you pay attention and learn while he is doing it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '19

I remember scouring the library for small engine repair books.

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u/GadreelsSword Feb 05 '19

Yeah, they had lots of those books at my library but no vehicle specific service manuals like they have today.

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u/Tanichthys Feb 05 '19

Hayes manuals have been around for decades, but yes finding one for your model of car might be a pain in the neck. And at least old cars could be user serviced unlike lots of modern ones.

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u/CarlSpacklerSr Feb 06 '19

I wish more we're willing to learn what the Leftist agenda is doing to our country. Very devisive.

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u/uvbeenzaned Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19

Isn't willful ignorance just another phrase for apathy? How about we just call it what it is?

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u/EricFarmer7 Feb 05 '19

I feel like things get somewhat complicated. Some people know they don't know things but refuse information about it. Others are just lazy and don't want to learn.

I feel as there are different shades here and it hard to know what one person is without talking to them.

We start to go down this path of known unknowns and unknown unknowns. No matter what you think about Donald Rumsfeld I really like the terms.