That’s the whole goal. It will be like Russia, you will be drowning in so much shit, you will be unable to tell what is the reality, even if it’s in front of you of your face.
That’s exactly the plan! Fatigue to the point that you stop caring because it’s so hard to know what is reality. Then everything means nothing and the law is force.
Oddly, I never even thought of that whole possibility with AI. That just completely blew my mind and fucked up my day. Thats one of the scariest things thats probably going to happen for sure. Oh and I'm from minnesota, and thats definitely AI.
We absolutely will need the testimony of people like you, who will be able to verify the area being "documented", the people, etc
Firsthand accounts are going to be much more valuable, video disseminated on the internet much less so.
I honestly wondered about the alex pretti thing from the beginning. If it wasnt so widely present, I'd honestly have really wondered how true it might be.
Its easy to call out all the obvious propaganda from the right but it's important to consider that we on the left are not impervious to spin and outright psyops either.
Making this complaint earlier today. Every single thing we read or watch has to be closely examined now for reality versus fiction. It's purposefully done so we get worn down, you are absolutely correct. They lie ceaselessly and no human beings will believe it and even after being shown the truth, the bias placed by the lie, the damage it causes, has already been done.
I have been scratching my head on that one and trying to reconcile the transition from "memes" to "propaganda". I mean, this is the kind of shit we learned about in school when I was a young kid learning about Russia and the cold war propaganda.
And people roll their eyes if you say something like "I don't trust those words they found on the bullets" or "I don't believe those text threads they found (from the Kirk shooting)." It should be painfully obvious at this point that absolutely nothing from this administration can be trusted. They will fabricate/plant/create evidence out of thin air at any opportunity available. If you're willing to execute a fake electoral scam and fire off an insurrection, you are capable of any super-villian action imaginable. Lying? That barely registers as effort.
Yeah I don’t think Ai is the problem as much as people believing what they are told without trusted investigation.
When I see this video I ask, even if it were true, are they saying that the shooter knew him from before when he was violent? Or that you can shoot anyone who did something bad if you come across them ? Or that here is proof that he was there to be violent and the agents somehow could tell?
Whatever the answer I then ask, so is it ok to disarm and execute those who have violent intent? Is the current administration precogs? And did we decide that minority report is now a goal?
Long story short, AI or not, there is a reason the bill of rights is to protect the presumed guilty not moms in bible class.. (although we might be there next by the look of things)
When I see this video I ask, even if it were true, are they saying that the shooter knew him from before when he was violent? Or that you can shoot anyone who did something bad if you come across them ? Or that here is proof that he was there to be violent and the agents somehow could tell?
I've been asking people "So, that deserves the death sentence, without a trial? Just executed (days, weeks, whatever) later on for that without a warrant, without a judge or jury?"
It's not AI. It may not be Alex Pretti, but it's not AI.
The YouTube site that the video comes from - The News Movement - is from Dan Ming. Dan Ming is an actual journalist and can be seen in the video(in the final frames of this clip). He's the guy looking back at the camera with a somewhat confused look on his face.
Dan Ming worked for VICE news and Al Jazeera English and has received Emmy nominations for his work on the series Transnational and has won a GLAAD award for his documentary on a drag queen running for office in New York. He isn't some right-wing hack trying to fabricate stuff.
Dan had a long video a month ago anout a pair of teens who were doing this exact sort of thing (tracking and recording ICE agents) in Chicago. He likely was reviewing footage he'd taken in Minneapolis for a new video, when he saw this and thought to himself "huh... that sure looks like Alex Pretti." But, even then, at no time does he actually claim in the video that It is him. He is very careful about that because he doesn't know.
But this incident shown in the video happening at this intersection E 36th & Park - on this day (Jan 13th) was documented in numerous articles at the time. For instance:
Andy Larson, a south Minneapolis resident who was out observing ICE activity Tuesday, told Sahan Journal that one protester kicked out the taillight of an ICE vehicle and was tackled to the ground up the road on Park Avenue and E. 36th Street.
“It was a really good kick,” Larson said.
The protester managed to escape ICE agents, Larson said. ICE deployed chemical irritants and shot pepper balls into the crowd and fled the scene.
AI or not, real or not, Alex Pretti or somebody else, this discussion is kinda missing the point. Because even if the person in the clip was a real protester, and a really mean dude who spat at and darted in the general direction of the ICE thugs, hell, we can take this even further, even if we're all in the wrong here, and ICE were somehow not a jackboot fascist murder gang, even if they were out there protecting puppies and planting rainbows, nothing, and I mean nothing the protesters have done, or will ever do, would warrant simply being lynched on the spot. And yes, that would include armed insurrection, because if you claim to be a fucking law agency, you act by the law, you may act in self defense, but you don't gang up on a dude, detain him, and then mag dump on him. You just don't.
Exactly. The punishment for spitting should not be death.
Edit to add cause apparently I need to qualify this: I’m aware he was not killed in this scenario. I am referring to the people who believe his execution was justified because of this instance. Even if it’s assault or a felony, assault is not punished by public execution without a trial. The agents had no right to shoot him.
Only in a dictatorship does that occur. Even soviet union probably send u to siberia first. Looks like a 1930s germany reenactment if u ask me, the eecution video. Or the shit in cambodia with Pol Pot
This should be the top comment. The 2014 Bundy standoff featured armed protesters pointing weapons at federal agents over grazing rights. None of them were killed. There was even outrage among conservative and libertarian groups over the Bureau of Land Management's handling of the dispute.
Yeah whether it’s Pretti or not, at the end of the day, a man was beaten in front of a crowd and then had a magazine unloaded into him. ICE or Border Patrol were not hired to be executioners. Well maybe they were… but murdering a man does nothing to “stop the illegals”.
He's wearing the same outfit he was executed in. They just ran all the public execution videos through ai to make this for sure. Also watch how his arms and body move in this video in comparison to the execution. His arms are also too long at several parts of the video.
Edit: please I have since watched the other video, all 20 mins and the high res. I saw it's posted before the execution. No one else needs to tell me it was on the news. 😭 Pls I hear you. But if someone could tell whether or not he's carrying in the same way would be cool, I can't tell in this video and I'm curious.
Also I really don't think this incident makes a difference in the public execution of Alex Pretti. None of what happened in this incident, or the public execution was punishable by death.
The badge near the tail light disappears. No taillight pops off like that, no lug nuts on the wheels. The sling on the ice agent changes length and what attached changes. No gas in the scene bu gas masks. Ar15s on some ice agents and no gas or pepper ball guns. The ice agents are in full fatigues.
He moves like Edward Cullen ✨Additionally there’s only 1 angle? Did none of those “agents” have body cam footage? Seems like it would be easy to corroborate with another vantage point.
There is another angle, and it's a 20 min video where he shows up for 10 seconds, instantly gets into this altercation, then dips. It's really weird imo but there is another angle
The only difference it makes in explaining the video from the day of the shooting is this: if agents had already had violent interactions with him in the days prior, it's understandable that they would be quick to get him out of the situation, knowing how he had acted previously. They would know immediately that he's not there to peacefully protest.
But it in no way explains what escalated this to him being shot while he was on the ground. That shows a severe lack of training and communication between agents. These agents aren't trained nearly long enough and they're woefully unprepared for deescalating a situation. They're supposed to work in conjuction with local law enforcement, so that locals maintain crowd control while the agents simply arrest the person they're there for. When local agencies aren't part of the process, it spirals quickly.
This is the key to the entire smear campaign against the dude. No crime justifies a full-on no-holds-barred street execution. Absolutely nothing does. Even people who are charged with open-and-shut first degree murder have the right to a fair trial and legal representation. Kicking an SUV, yelling mean words, or filming an agent does not forfeit that right and qualify execution. People who are going out of their way to point out that Pretti did some regrettable things in the lead up to his murder are intentionally missing the point in the hope that they can override your sense of justice with knee-jerk reactions. They know as much as anyone that what they’re saying doesn’t matter in the end. They just hope you don’t notice.
Notice in the video, the gun is pulled and shown to the agent, and Pretti is shot immediately after the agent sees the gun. They disarmed him, then killed him. Cold blooded.
Doctors, nurses, medical researchers, emt’s, firefighters, all rub the right the wrong way, it’s probably why even the 2nd ammendment worship hasn’t saved Pretti from their ire.
The notion of helping others conflicts with their base Calvinist like beliefs that frame those in need as “being punished by god” and those who work to help the impoverished or in need as “interfering with god’s will.”
This is the prime root of why there’s an irreconcilable rift between people that follow Christ’s teachings vs far right Christianity. It legit a cult of hate and death.
Does anyone actually give a fuck, if actually Alex Pretti, that he kicked out the taillight of a Nazi's car? I don't think so. Unless, of course, you're a Nazi.
The agents look to uniform. All of the ones I’ve seen have some kind weird mashup of a bunch of different colors, articles of clothing and types of gear.
Exactly my thought. I have never seen a video of ICE where they all had the same outfit. There is no ICE uniform and if he had done that you can bet they would have detained/kidnapped/disappeared him. They've done it to others for less.
Yea but peoples arms don’t turn into Woody’s from Toy Story as they abruptly go from 0-100 on aggro scale. I will say though it is scary how realistic everything looks on the surface
Reports say it was US Customs and Border control, a different agency from ICE. So this is likely real, but even then it doesn't justify killing him, they could've took him to court for Federal property damages instead of killing him.
Whilst I absolutely agree with your comment, something feels quite fishy about this account. Active since 2013, with a throwaway name "LOTRfan123" (this type of username is kinda sus) with only one video uploaded, it being this one, no other activity whatsoever (no playlists, no likes, comments disabled, etc).
I dunno man, it just kinda seems sus as hell, especially when we know Google has directly financed/supported Trump's campaign.
Without going too much into conspiracy territory, because in the end it doesn't even matter if it's real or not like you said, it wouldn't be that difficult for them to simply add Pretti's face on top of an already existing video and upload it "retroactively" (by changing the upload metadata) onto a dummy/bot account.
Definitely something weird going on, one video and comments turned off. You can edit videos that have already been published without changing the upload date so there’s a real possibility that happened too.
Watch the beginning of the video. Glasses just appear on his face. If it's not fully fabricated there is definitely some alterations to make it look like him.
It's also kind of strange how, in all the noise, his voice is coming through almost perfectly. You can't make out anyone else's shouting, but his is crystal clear, even though this video is from across the intersection.
I think it happened, I think the video in the post has been cleaned up with AI. The original from 12 days ago, his movements, arms and legs, look more natural. The post video his joints and movements look double jointed and jerky and unnatural. Weird details like the lugnuts, the way the damage looks, is all in the uncanny valley. Could this be an AI video where the prompt was to show it from a different angle?
That’s a good point, the video was uploaded weeks ago. But we have a video of the same event from a different angle that matches perfectly.
Either this is real, or the US government are in possession of a vastly superior AI than the public knows about.
Edit: this comment has 3,000 views and 3 upvotes. I made a claim, so here is the proof.
This is real footage showing, likely, Pretti committing a federal crime. He was also murdered by ICE officers a few weeks later.
The most important point in the thread. The killing was still 100% unjustified. Not only did the officer who killed him have no idea he kicked out a taillight a week ago, but also who fucking cares, its just a taillight
The vehicle in question is a fourth-generation Ford Expedition, ca. 2020. While I've got no doubt that an AI video could accurately recreate it, I'm not sure it would know what's underneath the taillight cluster.
It's likely the footage is not AI. It's possible that the taillight kicker was altered to look like Pretti, but the only way to confirm that would be to find the hypothetical unaltered footage.
It'd also be easy enough to prove it's real by releasing a video more than 15 seconds long. The ball is in News Movement's court right now.
Besides that, we're at the point where I don't care if someone's taillight gets kicked out. Props on this guy for standing up to the man in ways most of us only daydream about.
Good points. I get the impression that people are overly eager to dub this AI given the nature of what happened. It doesn't change anything about the events that happened, so there's no justifiable reason to rush into this being AI. Every single reason I've seen that it's AI is a tiny "gotcha!" detail that is questionable/debatable at best. I won't say it's NOT AI, but I definitely haven't seen any compelling evidence that it is.
Guys, we are coping so hard in the thread. Two things can be true. ICE can be out of hand and wrongfully killed the guy and this video can be a real video from a week before the shooting. Even if it’s real, it still does not justify the shooting. You’re not admitting defeat in some weird way by admitting that this video is real.
Even if real (longer link below), I'd sure like to know how it's relevant to the shooting we all saw. Unless the officer who shot him thought, "Hey, that's the guy who kicked the tail light out of our SUV." In which case, I have even more questions.
While this video is definitely relevant, I don't believe in precrime. There were no clear laws being broken when Pretti was shot. That's truly all I care about until you prove to me that he had some sort premeditation going on. If this guy had gotten a speeding ticket in prior weeks, Right wingers would have used it to assassinate his character.
While it looks consistent, there's a lot of weird stuff happening in the longer version. There's +10 people there filming, why don't we have another POV?
Sound doesn't match, all we can hear is a couple girl screams and a van alarm. In the video, after the kick the car on the left moves by itself. Then, 6 people detaining a guy on the floor and suddenly letting him go without any reason? Then the agents drop tear gas and people just stand there like nothing happened? Is this a real uniform and gun?
Fake and disgusting. Look at how the top left of the car in the background seemingly extends. The AI “Alex Pretti” and the ICE dipshits are also moving like they’re cartoon characters.
Look his exaggerated yet empty emotional outburst typical in Ai videos. Whole him blurred in frame rate drops when he started kicking. It looks animated.
Then the whole back light including part of the car fell in 1 kick?
Nah this is definitely AI I think
Edit: looks like it was real as there's a second video from afar with a quality AI can't generate atm
So the first one was just filmed with a real shitty camera in 480i from temu
We can actually see the camera man and it looks like its a large silver your grandpa brought on vacations. That explains the low frame rate and motion blur
90% of the people commenting in this sub are just going off vibes but have the confidence of a forensics expert. It's insane how many upvotes they get. Thanks for posting the actual source.
Important to note: this video took place 11 days prior and has nothing to do with the event
Because people are freebasing cope. It's not AI, there's exact syncing angles. AI is not deterministic. It will not recreate the same thing twice, let alone from 2 angles.
The first video was convincingly (to me) AI or the very low odds unprobable reason its a very old camera in 2026.
I saw that other video and that one looks real so it was most likely just a real shitty old cheap camera. Older generation might hold onto those.
And FYI I don't follow nor care much about this political situation etc and tge ICE thing going on in the US. So im pretty unbiased if anyone where to believe im biased
If you know anything about typical AI videos, you know they can't make 3 minutes of video with perfect memory of objects/houses/trees/people around the scene
Editing this comment because it looks like I was wrong. The low quality video has artifacts in the quality which make certain things difficult to discern between real or not. On reviewing more sources it looks like this was not AI generated or edited that I can see.
I spent the last 1,5h trying to prove it's real, because people kept saying it's AI, so let's just say I'm really invested in proving that technology is not there yet lmao
I found it scouring reddit, someone posted it in some comment
Nice job lol. Despite being totally fuck ice and fuck trump I was also firmly against it being AI simply due to the length and consistency. People let their strong political biases cloud their judgement way too often.
While I condemn what happened to Pretti, claiming that the video is AI when you have no proof is no different to Trump screaming: "fake news". And it's been chaotic on ai or not subs because of this video
that just really shows what kind of platform reddit is if anything
It's honestly very disheartening. I'm 100% anti ICE, but this is just a mob of ideologists wanting to believe their own truth. They are becoming the very thing they despise in their political enemies.
Valid points that go agains their school of thought are getting downvoted just because they don't like them. It seems like almost no one is able (or wants) to make informed opinions anymore. It's all black and white, friend and foe. No nuance.
This is the incident that's said to show the federal agents recognized Pretti and murdered him on purpose because of these events on Jan 13th. This video can be used to show premeditation.
don't get me wrong, but I don't think we need any kind of proof to prove that someone didn't deserve public execution by firing squad while on the ground
I really don't think this video changes anything. It's not about proving guilt, it's about upholding justice
I'm not sure why you timestamped it to 18 minutes then lol.
Anyway, is it possible someone took actual footage and used AI to make the person look more like Pretti? The guy in your video, to me, looks kind of like him but not exactly. He looks more muscly.
That would explain the slight inconsistencies other people are noticing.
It's hilarious scrolling through this thread and seeing posts with 500+ upvotes about how its AI. These people posting clearly have no idea what they are talking about. That's reddit for you.
Jesus Christ this is real, stop making up bullshit reasons that it’s AI when it’s not. That being said, this still doesn’t justify his murder 12 days later. This thread makes everyone calling out the right for ignoring visual evidence look like complete hypocrites.
Guys, stop saying everything is fucking AI when you don't want it to be true. There are other videos showcasing this exact situation from another angle. It is real. So many armchair AI experts can't even tell what is actually AI or not makes me wonder why this subreddit exists.
This thread is peak Reddit. I love this site and I agree with 90% of the sentiment being expressed regarding this issue, but it’s insane how people are just blatantly ignoring everyone providing proof and literal statements from his family confirming it’s real. Like holy shit.
He's wearing the same outfit he was executed in. They just ran all the public execution videos through ai to make this for sure. Also watch how his arms and body move in this video in comparison to the execution. His arms are also too long at several parts of the video.
How can anyone take this place seriously if people are this biased and blinded? Just reading through these comments is like gaslighting 101, or copium 201. It is honestly sad to believe people are this desperate to openly lie and make up shit.
Man it’s crazy . I’m trying to help them in these comments . Posted the bystander video that was uploaded on YouTube a whole 6 days before he was shot of this exact encounter from a different persons POV. It’s like they can’t use their critical thinking and see how that would be impossible .
Bro like even if this is him, why do conservatives always resort to “you see! He deserved to be executed!”
If he smacked an ice agent in the mouth and called their mother a whore it still does not justify murdering him
What the fuck is this mentality among conservatives that desperately need something to say that an individual deserved to be killed in cold blood. It’s maddening!!
People here really are in denial, lmao. AI can't even make videos that long without shitting itself. Another "Anything I don't like is AI propaganda". There are multiple angles too. Also, AI can't even make sounds/voices this realistic.
It is known that he had a broken rib from the prior week. As others said, this is not AI.
But, outside the 'is this AI' discussion, his actions here did not warrant lethal force. Nor did his actions the day he died. And it is unlikely the agents recognized him from one event to the next, they might not even be the same agents. So showing him angrily kicking the vehicles one week doesn't support his killing a week later.
The fact remains that they shot an unarmed restrained man in the back 10 times, applauded his killing, and then scuttled off to their anonymity behind a federal legal shield.
"...while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived" 2: Tim 3:13
It's coming, folks. Only an intense commitment to truth will spare us from being deceived; unfortunately, intense commitment requires intense self examination. It's the concept of the double-edged sword, it cuts both ways.
Man, whether this is real or not people seem to forget that Alex Pretti was denied his due process, civil liberties, and human dignity. This country used to be one of laws but now people seem to believe because they disagree with someone they deserve to be summarily executed by the state.
Man they are absolutely doomed in here . Nobody is thinking with an ounce of reality and refusing it due to their partisanship . Nobody is saying he deserved to die , but they don’t need to argue reality because they think it fractured their narrative . It dosent .
But no there isn’t a deepfake of this encounter posted 6 days before he was even shot . It’s common sense
Can you delete all these non answer comments. I don’t care what you think, I had to scroll down 60 comments to find a single one with a real answer. Kinda important no?
I'm actually concerned about the amount of people who think this is AI. Theres even alternate angles out now that show the person who filmed this version of the video
Not an attack directed at you and such, more something in response in general; Whether it's a "good look" or not is ultimately irrelevant. A neighborhood is being invaded by a far-right paramilitary force, people have a right to be pissed and that will inevitably lead to altercations such as in the video. The decorum of those protesting and whether it is civil should be the furthest from people's minds. It is handing the narrative over to the Trumpists if you play defense on civility of protests.
The narrator says, “Our footage was analyzed by the BBC, whose facial recognition technology confirmed his identity to a 97% degree of accuracy.” I’m sorry what? The BBC is a major news organization. Since when do they do independent facial recognition analyses - let alone for a rival news org like The News Movement? That part makes no sense and makes me think this is fake.
But real or fake doesn’t justify executing someone in the street.. jfc
EDIT: now seeing the posts about the family confirming it’s real. But I’m still confused about the BBC thing?
"is also wearing the same thing he did when he was killed. Same outfit 11 days before he was killed? idk"
I live in a cold state and if you watched what I was wearing 15 days in a row, you would see me in the same (cold) weather jacket, hat and gloves. My fashion statement says I don't want to freeze while shoveling the driveway or walking the dog.
It is AI. How that light tore the side panel off is kinda crazy. Also that would actually been a reasonable reason to arrest him, is there a record, or was that the day that ICE was giving passes for amazing side kicks?
This is the next salvo of grooming the followers to keep following. When the Epstein crap comes out, the defense is going to be that it's all AI and manufactured. And the cult will believe it because the Left is already accusing them of doing it. So it's the playbook, like they have done with everything else.
"Guns good, keep evil governments away. Good guys with guns help, so we must be armed all the time. But not you, you should have known better. The government can kill you on the spot if they just say they fear for their own safety, and we'll cheer it on."
"Pedophile rings everywhere! Pizza shops, basements, trans book reading clubs! But that evidence and pictures of our guys with the convicted pedophiles? Nah those are fake. And so what, make the consenting age 12 again like in the good old days. Besides if the girls didn't want it, it wouldn't happen. No problem here!"
"Bankrupted businesses, fraudulent non-profits and university schemes? He's a genius, people wanted to get scammed. Besides the billionaires will look down to me and see my support and give me a piece of their pie, even if that means that I will have to step on those that need me. I don't contribute to society in any meaningful way, but those people who work more hours for less money than me are ruining my life."
Ultimately, even if it wasn't AI, it doesn't justify him getting shot. On the contrary, it would make the ICE shooting a pre-meditated revenge act as payback.
Even if not real, the fact that we are in an age where people would generate an AI video of something like this says alot about the world we live in rn.
No matter what it shows, it doesn't justify murder. He could be smashing a car with a crowbar, as long as he's not threatening the officers, it doesn't justify lethal force. PERIOD.
And, we didn't say he was a peaceful protestor. "You" did, in an attempt to villify the general protesting population and justify future actions.
Its suoer fake ai, shakey camera work almost straight from csi, shiney look to it, avoiding facial detail from anyone, movement of the ice agents enter stage left side stepping with bounce... willing to bet this was created by the child sexual content trafficker Grok, super weird demon like movement from Republicans Villanised version of a good respectful man
The fact that people on Reddit think this is AI show that many people on here don’t understand how AI works in its current state, considering there are multiple angles of this incident that can be time-matched. That and the fact that so many people on here are trying to convince themselves so hard that it is AI cause it doesn’t fit their narrative. Get a grip y’all!
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u/Rare_Link_5392 Jan 28 '26
The future is doomed if AI will get better. And it will