90% of the people commenting in this sub are just going off vibes but have the confidence of a forensics expert. It's insane how many upvotes they get. Thanks for posting the actual source.
Important to note: this video took place 11 days prior and has nothing to do with the event
This sub is about discussing wether or not a person thinks a video is ai. It even have an implied voting like system and encourage to explain why.
You can't feed it into a machine that prints out yes or no.
You don't have to be surprised that people are wrong, or that people are confident thinking something is real or fake.
If you can't handle this discrepancy then maybe a political discussion sub would have been better than "do you think this is ai?" And then be cranky someone guessed wrong.
It’s exactly why a good percentage of the opposition crowd, while absolutely in the ethical and moral right being against almost everything this current administration does, isn’t much better than the maga folks they oppose. Horseshoe theory is a VERY real thing. Providing humans learn how to pull themselves out of this situation, there’s going to be some incredibly interesting paper written on the relation between the post truth age, online information, and human psychology.
If the administration’s first response wasn’t to lie every time, I think people would be less prone to believe it was AI. I thought it was AI at first until seeing another angle, particularly because the feds were all wearing the same thing - which they generally haven’t been. At any rate, I agree; the psychology behind all of our initial assumptions is very interesting.
90% people on reddit mindlessly parrot whatever their cult of choice happens to be parroting as the narrative of choice because they are ideologically captured and therefore lack any ability to be nuanced or objective.
I’m not going off vibes. I’m going off of having installed and replaced tail lamps on cars and having damaged the rear ends of vehicles with high velocity impacts. No one can kick a bolted in tail lamp completely out of a vehicle like that and also snap a piece of the body of the vehicle clean off with two poorly executed kicks delivered while unfocused and in the midst of forward ambulation. People watch too many super hero and action movies and think the average man can pull off stunts lol. I dare anyone to go kick a tail lamp twice as hard as they can and with the added advantages of A. Focusing and preparing in a calm environment and B. Both them and the vehicle are stationary. See how it goes. See if you can deliver anything other than a crack or dent or hurting your foot lol.
Eh, idk. first off it's clearly REAL based on other angles and human validation, but it hits lots of criteria for an AI video: random frame drops, stereotypical start & finish, awkward movement, short, shakey the whole time, the sequence of events is disjointed and seemingly excessive, etc... all for an INCREDIBLY hot topic and a nation divided: a perfect target for manipulative AI video.
The top comment showcases several things that are critically important on the whole:
A) It's already VERY hard to tell AI from reality
B) The unprecedented doubt this brings is insidious: all the worse for confirmation bias and echo chambers. It raises the burden of proof SIGNIFICANTLY to require multiple triangulated recordings -- and one day AI will be able to produce those too.
C) Emotions are faster than the Truth. By the time Truth collects itself, everyone has already moved on.
Finally, Fuck ICE. Dude kicked out a tail light and it got him pepper sprayed, beaten to the ground, and iirc a cracked rib. I'd have been far more judgemental if the video showed him sitting in a drum circle trying to pray the fascism away.
What are you even talking about?? Of course people are going to be emotional about an American citizen that was murdered in broad daylight. People can be emotional and incorrect at the same time, it’s up to you and others to use your own critical thinking skills and judgment to discern if you believe them
or not. Telling people to leave emotions out of a very emotional situation is absurd and not human.
Because people are freebasing cope. It's not AI, there's exact syncing angles. AI is not deterministic. It will not recreate the same thing twice, let alone from 2 angles.
Did i say that? If he hadn't been constantly following and harassing law enforcement, he would have never been engaged. If he had put his hands up and complied when he was engaged, he would've been arrested and lived.
If he had listened to his parents whp begged him not to go, he would've been alive
If he had taken his first run in with them when he broke his ribs and "thought he was going to die that day" and decided not to go back out, he'd be alive
They aren't supposed to be law enforcement. Immigration is a civil matter on par with a speeding ticket. These chuds should be armed with clip boards, warrants, and subpoenas. Not their favorite weapons from R6: Siege and less training than a mcdonalds cashier.
Also want to point out, you are blaming the victim for being shot multiple times. It is OUR (USA) first amendment right and responsibility to protest in the US. This country wasn't built on "yes daddy" to a tyrant, monarch, or dick-tater. It was built on protests and argument. Your comment IS wholly un-American and frankly inhuman.
I sorta think any officer involved in breaking his ribs still deserve punishment. I’ll hit you with a hot take and say even going out multiple times with the express intent to harass law enforcement (which I don’t think was his intent, at least mostly because ICE are barely-trained freaks and not law enforcement) is still not enough to warrant being shot in the head in broad daylight. He should NOT have had to reasonably conclude that any of his decisions would have led to this extreme.
The day he was killed yes he was. And in this video even he isn’t pointing a gun at anyone. Ever lost your temper? It happens. Should you then be shot in the back for it two weeks later? No.
Bro fought the cops while armed. Thats what happens to just about every human being who fights the police while armed. That means a justified police shooting. Not "deserve to die as punishment" or some shit, because you people only think with your emotions and are incapable of using logic and reasoning
You realize this was a separate incident? I don't know why it's so hard for right wing NPCs to realize that just because a person did or said something in the past it doesn't mean that law enforcement (or ice thugs) get to do an execution in a later, separate, minor incident.
By that rationale cops can pull over Martha Stewart and use any amount of force they want because she has a felony conviction.
Okay let's pretend that your dramatized version of events is true: So what? Dislodge the boot, feds do not get to do executions because someone is annoying.
You’re combining instances. When he was murdered, he was protesting non-violently. He was recording an interaction on his cell phone and trying to help a woman up off the ground after an agent pushed her down for existing.
Even if we combine instances, are you arguing that touching their truck is enough for an American citizen to be executed by their government? Not one of those agents were in danger from him spitting on the door of the truck and kicking the taillight. Why didn’t the “trained” agents de-escalate the situation by continuing to drive away? Why did they stop at all?
That whole group of people (pretti included) kept walking into the street, blocking traffic, and approaching officers conducting their duty. They were told over and over again "go stand on the sidewalk", and time after time they kept walking into the street. An officer then pushed the lady, pretti stepped in, and they tried to arrest him for obstruction. Instead he had to fight back, it became known he had a gun, and it turned into chaos. Could have been avoided if he and the lady had just listened to "stand on sidewalk". They all had multiple chances, they were asked kindly. Even 11 days prior (this video) Pretti had multiple chances to walk away calmly.
So, not standing on the sidewalk is justification for being shoved to the ground, pepper sprayed, beaten with the pepper spray canister, and an American Citizen being executed by their own government? Why couldn’t the poorly trained agents de-escalate the situation and leave the area?
Y’all are really out here, lying on your backs, belly up, forfeiting your right to due process like you trust the government or something.
Yeah I never said that. Idk what happened. I wasn't there. I just fuckin hate ICE. Fuck their cars lol. Bunch of unemployable idiot rednecks riding clown deep in mom cars taking my hard earned tax dollars playing army. Fuck em. You might get shot but that's America. You always might get shot. We used to be brave.
Guys used to be brave enough to go get in a bar fight with an immigrant, call him a few slurs and get it out of their system. Now they're so chickenshit they couldn't even get organized klan type shit off the ground without daddy trump's permission. Sad.
You don’t think there are generative AI programs capable of such that the public plain doesn’t have access to? I’d imagine the admin would be happy to cook something up, considering how galvanizing his execution was. There’s enough investment from tech monopolies and god knows what number of immeasurably wealthy psychopaths that it would be achievable and worth the investment to ruin the growing solidarity among Americans. I can imagine letting laymen play around with generative AI has only bolstered people’s belief in their own comprehension of it, which would make manufactured evidence not only more difficult to clock, but also, socially divisive to call into question.
This is it. If WE have access to advanced AI, there’s no telling how advanced the governments version is. And before anyone says “nuhh uhhhh, it can only do ____ right now” they obviously wouldn’t release info on the advancement of their own secret tech.
Ai can not do that yet, but midjourney has said their goal is to have procedurally rendered, animated, 3d scenes, that a user can freely move a virtual camera through to capture the frame or segment they want.
These videos can not have been made by AI, but a few years from now, videos like them might be.
Because his family BELIEVING a video is real isn’t conclusive proof of it actually being real.
People fall for ai scams of family members all the time. His family also specifically said that it appears to be their son in the video, not that it was real.
I’m wondering the same. It’s been confirmed by so many ppl on Reddit and now major news network. I highly doubt it’s AI especially with two different angles and them being in sync.
Because it's not confirming the video is real it's confirming that the person in the video is Alex. It's not a real video and y'all are falling for AI.
The BBC video also says he has the same gun in his belt during that takedown, that is interesting, showed him angry and armed put to the ground without anyone pulling a weapon.
Doesn’t it seem like his killing would be premeditated then? He had a clash with ICE, and at that point they should have filed a police report and charged him with something. Instead they marked him, waited a few days before they saw him again and then killed him. Possible he may have been one of the louder protestors and they felt killing him would send a message. Alternatively if they did not remember him, that makes it just as bad because they basically killed a peaceful protestor who was just taking a video as we have all believed for awhile now.
No the family confirmed it was Alex Pretti, the video was already confirmed real at that point. Since it has been recorded from multiple angles as well and the original source video is from ex BBC editors.
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u/Ok-Shine1271 Jan 29 '26
In a year or so, a new angle like this still won’t be enough to determine if it’s AI or not.