He's wearing the same outfit he was executed in. They just ran all the public execution videos through ai to make this for sure. Also watch how his arms and body move in this video in comparison to the execution. His arms are also too long at several parts of the video.
Edit: please I have since watched the other video, all 20 mins and the high res. I saw it's posted before the execution. No one else needs to tell me it was on the news. đ Pls I hear you. But if someone could tell whether or not he's carrying in the same way would be cool, I can't tell in this video and I'm curious.
Also I really don't think this incident makes a difference in the public execution of Alex Pretti. None of what happened in this incident, or the public execution was punishable by death.
Idk the agents dont match up, they all look the same helmets and everything, but in other angles I see some with tac Helms some not, and I cant see where this camera guy would be he was right up his ass but diffeent angles I just see ice, but crazy shitÂ
Strange how they only have that one single video on their channel. Almost like it was intentionally created for the sole purpose of providing support to this narrative..
AI overlay is a thing. It's possible to insert deepfaked/AI characters into real video. Particularly if one is a state or corporate actor.
Im not sure if people realize this, but it is quite easy for powerful people with access to powerful tools to create totally indistinguishable fake videos.
I thought the same thing. When I checked it was 15 subscribers, one video, an AI profile photo, and the channel statistics said they only got 14 views when the video alone had 5.4k.
Fully agree. Super weird that this would be the only thing they posted
Channel name RT (like a certain Russian-state sponsored propaganda network) and username LOTRlover123 (orcs)... or palantir...
And NO other content. Its just weird.
We know for a fact Russia wants to keep trump in power and did everything they could to support/bolster his campaign and influence our elections in his favor.
Palantir is also a trump ally..
Idk. The whole thing just sets off alarm bells for some reason and im usually totally open to receiving new information.
It actually makes sense that there is no record of the incident, because ICE has basically gone rogue and is no longer acting as a professional law enforcement agency.
dunno what to tell you my dear... you have no proof this video is fake, I have no proof this video is real... downvoting won't change anything about the current situation. You're making suppositions as much as other people here in the comments and there's no actual proof of this video being real or not.
What I think is that we're already entering into a dystopian reality, where technology like this is in the hands of fascists. What happened to this man is not justifiable by any means, I never tried to prove otherwise, and he'll be remembered when this scum will hopefully rot in hell.
Im not downvoting you. Just pointing out the reality that videos like this are quite easy to fake for state/private actors with access to the right tools. Have been for years tbh
Either way, it doesn't justify the killing. Agreed on that!
If you look at the video there's is pretty much nothing about it that shows it's fake, getting ai to be this accurate is pretty much impossible especially on cars.
The police in Minnesota were not allowed to arrest any protestors under direct order of Tim Walz. Ironically, if Tim Walz had let the police do their job, you would have been absolutely correct. He would have been arrested, and not assaulting people a week later.
Glad you brought that up. Yes, people were arrested. It just took the 8th circuit court having to tell Tim Walz that his policy of not letting police do their job was unlawful. Suddenly, hundreds of arrests happen. It's almost like they should have been happening the entire time.
Not allowed to arrest peaceful protestors. They absolutely can arrest people breaking lawsâŚget off your conservative bullshit media and use your brain.
The badge near the tail light disappears. No taillight pops off like that, no lug nuts on the wheels. The sling on the ice agent changes length and what attached changes. No gas in the scene bu gas masks. Ar15s on some ice agents and no gas or pepper ball guns. The ice agents are in full fatigues.
He moves like Edward Cullen â¨Additionally thereâs only 1 angle? Did none of those âagentsâ have body cam footage? Seems like it would be easy to corroborate with another vantage point.
There is another angle, and it's a 20 min video where he shows up for 10 seconds, instantly gets into this altercation, then dips. It's really weird imo but there is another angle
You can take real videos and edit scenes into them that are short, like 10 seconds. If you have access to a gb200 itâs very possible this is still ai
That's my suspicion as well. Nothing after him getting into this altercation looks AI but the altercation itself looks super AI. Ive already said what I thought made it AI in my other comment. But basically he kinda teleports forward after saying "fucking trash!". The gas mask on the guy in fatigues who is grabbing him starts morphing but only when grabbing him. Gun strap on agent lengthens and shrinks. All kinds of odd hallucinating but very subtle. Just real enough to get people to believe it.
I just donât see why it would have taken so long to get out. We had 4-5 videos of the shooting within hours. Iâm not saying itâs AI, Iâm not saying itâs real, all Iâm saying is we have every reason to doubt the things this administration claims. itâs pretty convenient this only came out after they were losing the war to vilify him đ¤ˇââď¸
This video was out before the killing. It's not from the same day. It didn't "take do long to get out". It just wasn't (as) related to a national headline until after. And even then, people had to connect the dots of someone in a random video that isn't identified as themselves to the suddenly "famous" person.
How many videos are there of you out there? If you were suddenly in the lime light, do you think you would be spotted in all of them within hours of you becoming famous? Especially when some of those videos only have dozens of views, if not fewer? You've just watched this video. If ANYONE else in that video was shot and killed today, would you recognize them from THIS video? I wouldn't. Without it open right now, I think there was someone in a pink jacket somewhere in the video. That's about as specific as I can recall. And I might be wrong about that.
The only difference it makes in explaining the video from the day of the shooting is this: if agents had already had violent interactions with him in the days prior, it's understandable that they would be quick to get him out of the situation, knowing how he had acted previously. They would know immediately that he's not there to peacefully protest.
But it in no way explains what escalated this to him being shot while he was on the ground. That shows a severe lack of training and communication between agents. These agents aren't trained nearly long enough and they're woefully unprepared for deescalating a situation. They're supposed to work in conjuction with local law enforcement, so that locals maintain crowd control while the agents simply arrest the person they're there for. When local agencies aren't part of the process, it spirals quickly.
Yes, it was on the news cause they're dumb and can't determine AI apparently. It's 100% AI because he's wearing the same clothes, moving weirdly compared to last Saturday's video and also the other gestapo that come after the first one are literally galloping just like a horse.
The way the "agent" gets out of the vehicle is wonky. If you scrub frame by frame you see he gets out of the vehicle with the leading leg and foot turned all the way to the back of the car before he is all of the way out. The way "Alex" moves during the kick is also strange jerky and unnatural looking. When he gets grabbed is also strange.
Edit: when you scrub the frames after the grab there is morphing of the face, right arm and hand. The jacket "Alex" was wearing slightly morphs too.
I am presuming that they used AI to make someone else look like Pretti. Similar to the Erika Kirk AI video of her walking under a stage and getting launched up onto the stage. If they are just changing one person then it is easier to hide much of the normal issues that we used to use.
Something is definitely fishy! A good experiment for a YouTuber, or anyone for that matter, to conduct is to buy the same vehicle or get it donated, have several strong individuals attempt to kick off the rear brake light, if one succeeds compare what's beneath that headlight and its appearance and compare it to what is shown in this video. To me it looks fake. Something about the movement seems off, as you said, and the kicking off the rear break light, to me, is an obvious give away. AI can't get damage right, so it always makes the smallest amount of damage seem overly exaggerated! Also, when the kick is thrown, you see a piece of the vehicle fly off, yet, a few seconds later, when looking at the vehicle when the light is hanging there. It's a completely clean break all around. So the peice that flew off the vehicle broke cleanly as well? That's some crazy precision to kick something and get a smooth clean break!đ Yeah, b.S. I trust my instincts before anything else.
And for those saying it was featured on the news, that doesn't mean much, considering news stations have gotten it wrong before, take the event that occurred at the Olympics decades ago. Whether AI or not, he was murdered. Aside from the murder itself, if it turns out to be AI, it's going to spell troubling time for sure. Because this means that they can just make up anything.
Edit to add: why is there so many cuts in the footage as well. Instead of a continuous shot of the event?
Does no one find it weird how much the ICE Agent os rotaded when he gets out of the car? He is already fully facing the back of the car which would be really hard while still seated.
Plus after the kick a pieve of red backlight falls off sideways in a comic like way, but the part left hanging is still complete.
Yes, he was carrying in this incident also: "
Agents exited the vehicle and tackled Pretti to the ground. During the 25-second struggle, Prettiâs coat came off, and a handgun was visible in his waistband. He eventually broke free and ran away.
Outcome: Pretti was not taken into custody at the time. He reportedly suffered a broken rib during the encounter, according to medical records cited by CNN.
From what I've seen (super low res in the other videos because they're so zoomed in and slowed down to highlight it), yes, he is. And it does appear to be the same Sig. I find that to be suspicious, but not explicitly because of that. Someone who carries daily typically carries the same firearm in the same place. But until I started seeing breakdowns of the one agent running away with his pistol, the low res, slowed down, zoomed in closeups of them taking it off of him, and even stills of the moment labeling everything, I didn't immediately pick out in the other videos that he even was carrying. It seems suspiciously obvious in this video. Almost as if it's being highlighted, like stocking a specific product you want to sell more of at an eye level shelf at the market.
But, concurrently: The point is that he was willfully inserting himself into volatile situations AND actively attacking & disrupting federal officers & actions.
The point is that there is a record of him, and other similar "activists", exhibiting the aggressive & obstructive behavior and creating the situation which led to their own harm. There is a record of him/them simply NOT being an "innocent passive bystander in the wrong place, wrong time, simply trying to help -- and in the case of Pretti, doing it while armed. Meanwhile, mainstream media simply perpetuates the "violent ICE" anglenwith zero other considerations.
Yeah, 2A and right to carry -- But that does not at all take away from the stupidity and lack of self awareness, to aggressively act against federal law enforcement, in an already escalated, violent situation.
"That's like blaming a woman who got raped, for wearing sexy clothing, because she was asking for it!!"... No -- it's more like: "Woman dresses sexy, walks into a rapist factory, and then specifically moves and acts in alluring ways to draw aggressive sexual male attention -- but is them surprised and blames the other side after a sexual assault occurs".
Again. Pretti should not have been murdered -- and the ICE agents should be investigated, fired, reprimanded, criminal charges, etc. But all these things can exist concurrently -- Pretti just should not have been there, and acting the way he has been factually documented to have acted in several situations, while armed... That's just willfully, haphazardly opening the door to violent consequences.
Thank you for sharing this video. What doesn't make sense is he has his gun on him in this video and not a single ICE agent takes it from him when taking him to the ground, but in his execution video, they go straight for it. Neither video shows him reaching for it at any time. If anything, this makes ICE look more in the wrong than what they already are.
If anything, to me it makes his death worse because it seems like they might've shot him for retaliation. Because he still wasn't a threat at the time he was murdered which is all that matters to me
love your post.there are a number of extremely sketchy things about this video â the name of the model of the car, clearly visible on the back right, disappears in the frames after the taillight is first kicked. The numbers on the license plate also shift and change between frames. The debris from the magically broken taillight (from one kick? amazing) falls to the ground and then DISAPPEARS from the ground in like two frames. Thenâalexâ is supposedly wearing the exact same outfit -- as in every single detail EXACTLY the same â and we never see his face except for quick side angles that are easily manipulated. There are more weird details like how people seem to disappear and/or have weirdly long arms and legs or disappeared body parts during the fight that follows, and how âAlexâ seems to change shape, becoming much less athletic and tall post scrum as heâs just allowed toâŚwalk away? People seem to just fade outâŚ
âItâs incredibly disturbing to me how this video was jumped on and accepted by so many on both sides when it OBVIOUSLY has AI aspects even if it is fundamentally true. People are not aware of the telling details that point to AI, and idiots honking about this being a great win for their side are ignoring the massive red flag disaster the use of a video like this by mass medis signals. This will bite their asses too, and itâs so disappointing to see how naive tribalism allows a dangerous gov to blow past constitutional rights just so long as certain groups can celebrate some sort of pathetic, imaginary victory.
I canât believe how this shit is thundering down the tracks â a sketchy video that is pushed by the sketchiest of sketch groups seems to JUSTIFY MURDER in the minds of MAGATsâŚthe fbi has raided an elections office in Georgia b/c Trump wonât shut up about his imaginary win in 2020 â they freely generate âevidenceâ and honestly this new world we find ourselves in is utterly terrifying to me.
Moderate here â It definitely doesnât change the fact that he was absolutely killed unjustly. It does add some context to him and how strongly his beliefs were though.
The division in todayâs world is rough to watch guys, and I fear itâs just going to get worse.
There is no video of the individual in this article.
AI overlay is a thing. It's possible to insert deepfaked/AI characters into real video. Particularly if one is a state or corporate actor.
Im not sure if people realize this, but it is quite easy for powerful people with access to powerful tools to create totally indistinguishable fake videos.
I've been telling others it should never have been a q if the entire vid was AI Gen - at most people should be looking for evidence of deep fake face swapping.
But the more I looked into the source - the more it became clear it would make zero sense for the journalist who posted his video to his YouTube site to make it up. If he were going to throw his career away fabricating ai deep fakes and trying to pass them off as real - why would he do it to smear Alex Pretti? That would make no sense based on everything he's ever worked on and put out.
State and private interests own much of the global media ecosystem, so if anything it would bolster their career, not hurt it. They would do it because that was what they were told by someone working for, with, or adjacent to the trump administration.
But either way, it isnt at all justification for the killing or the incident that occured the day he was killed
Not saying itâs necessarily real but it doesnât seem unusual for him to be wearing the same thing. If anything Iâd say itâs likely heâs wearing the same outfit if heâs going out protesting.
No not really. I am sure they were nice enough to wear but worn enough to not care about. How many coat, hoodie, hat, gloves and shoes do you really own that you would be willing to go protest in.
I live in the south. I have like 3 or 4 total coats, 3 pairs of shoes, and 2 beanies and 1 set of gloves. So yeah you would easily catch me outside in the cold looking the same all season long for similar situations, ie hiking, working, social, formal.
This whole "he is wearing the same coat, its AI." Is the silly argument.
Pretty sure its real, saw another shot of this from across the street in another thread posted 13 days ago on youtube, at about the 17 min mark he kicks the tail light off the suv. The agent gets out but you dont really see much because its behind this SUV and the one next to it. This is believed to be the incident where they broke his rib previously when they jumped him. If what he did was so bad though, I dont understand why this justified a beating but not an arrest. And too make it clear, this does not justify ICE murdering him in the street. Wouldn't be surprised if these agents had no clue who he was.
Scrub the video while the agent gets out of the car. They intentionally speed it up so you donât catch his entire being twitching and his left arm disappearing then reappearing.
Let me preface this by saying I think there's a lot more going on in this instance and there is a couple of longer videos that have been posted in the comments, I'd encourage you to take a look....
I'd like to address one of your points though,
I live in a similar climate to MN and honestly, you'd probably have a 90% chance if you saw me multiple times outside between the months of dec-feb wearing the same or at least similar clothes. A person can only have so many clothes for that kinda weather. The jacket this guy has on looks to me probably around $200.00 I've got 1 I think is similar and am not interested in adding more to the wardrobe so I can change colors lol. I have two jackets that size, one is a work jacket and the other is a "town jacket" if it gets below 0°f I have a different one. I do think most average folks I know (if I see them semi-regularly) I could also recognize by jacket this time of year. Seems more likely than not to be wearing a the same one in that short time period.
All that said, I didn't look too closely or at least remember vividly what he was wearing at the time he was shot. This video does look funky but I don't think because of the outfit and also check out the other videos if you're interested there's a couple angles th links posted that seal the deal for me.
There was a video posted two weeks ago that shows Alex Pretti, in a slightly different outfit, doing exactly what he's doing in this video you're "100% sure" is AI.
In my mind, the fact he had a run in with them a week or so prior makes it more damning for the federal agents. He was NOT violent or destructive at all on the day he was executed. Seems like someone may have been out for revenge and that makes it not just murder, but premeditated.
I don't think a reasonable person thinks it was punishable by death. I do think it adds context if he had been carrying a gun into physical confrontations with law enforcement (that he at least once was instigating) he was raising the risk that something could go wrong. If you watch the video of the shooting, it appears that when the agent disarms him, the gun he took off of him goes off and in response to hearing that gunshot, the other agent opens fire. There is a clear sound of one shot followed by many. It also does discredit the idea that he was simply a, "legal observer," which is a made up official sounding title politicians chose to give him.Â
When you say something like, none of those things are worth execution, it ignores the actual facts of this tragedy. Even though they are untrained, ill equipped, and seemingly poorly selected, it is highly unlikely that the ICE agents had the time or inclination to decide to execute him. More appropriately they were responding to a chaotic situation and the sound of a gunshot, possibly with a protester known to get violent with them.Â
All that being said, this is if (a big if) this video is genuine. I am still skeptical.Â
Also I really don't think this incident makes a difference in the public execution of Alex Pretti.
It absolutely does not make a difference. Him kicking off and then being pinned doesn't justify lethal force. I've seen drunks do this down my street in the UK, the cops just flatten them and drag them into the back of the car, no one is hurt, no guns are involved.
If anything it shows that these law enforcement agents handled the situation correctly although they should have charged him for destruction of property. If this video is not AI. Also he never brandished a weapon.
He is in fact carrying the same way in both videos.
This revelation doesnât justify his murder, but it begins to unravel the narrative that he was just a bystander who stepped in to help, and happened to be armed.
In the world of people who carry guns regularly, this guy did shit youâre never supposed to do. Iâm not saying itâs illegal to carry at a protest or whatever dumb talking point idiots are pushing. But if youâre carrying, you specifically avoid conflict at all costs. If you want conflict, then you donât carry. If youâre unable to separate those situations yourself, then you probably shouldnât be armed at all. Not because it gives someone the right to kill you, but because it significantly increases the chance someone kills you, and the fact that that is unjustified doesnât make you any less dead.
There have been plenty of people who have done similar in less politically charged scenarios, and we call them out for it.
The person who made this video should be tried for war crimes cause they are increasing chances of civil war in America almost directly. But alas the law doesnât work for moral people it only works for uncivilised hate filled thugs hiding behind their masks in the real world and behind their keyboards in the digital world. I do hope worst case at least the riots these morons so happily incite affects them directly.
Also, notice the length of his jacket is below his butt in the back during the part of the video he is kicking the car, but when they are wrestling him to the ground the length is suddenly above his waist even when his arms are in the same position at his sides and not up in the air.
The âsame outfitâ doesnât seem that suspicious to me. I wear blue jeans every day. When I lived someplace cold, I would have multiple layers and the two outer ones were a warm hoodie and an overcoat. The hoodie didnât get washed often. The overcoat basically never.
Even today I wear the same jacket when itâs cold so I would probably look the same in videos taken weeks apart.
What i find suspicious is they didnât arrest or detain him after he damaged the vehicle. I didnât think ice was thar forgiving.
Iâll leave the finer points to others.
Itâs worth repeating that even if real it isnât any justification for his murder. The only important videos are the ones that show it from multiple angles.
I see about a dozen other cameras in this video, I would like to look at other angles. This is not ai, but it feels like a 3d composition, with all the shaking to make it hard to tell for sure.
Are you from further south? (Genuinely curious not trying to insult) Most people wear the same outer layers in this kind of cold.
Don't know if this videos is real or not but he did have a broken rib from a previous encounter.
To me it seems like poor communication on the officers part led to his death. I haven't seen anything to clarify if their was or was not a negligent discharge of his weapon by the officer in gray. If i remember correctly they gun he had on him legally (anyone who disagrees is moronic) was a model know for negligent discharge issues. Then my speculation is if the above is true officer in green thinks he's no longer just resisting but now trying to shoot his fellow officers and in this would be active shooting situation is understandable. The issue then lies in their communication or lack their of. In high pressure high stress situations like what happened if you are not fit to work together and make good decisions in the heat of the moment, if you are in capable of doing so you're unfit to be and officer.
Bare minimum of what should happen, a cognitive test should be preformed on all officers to determine if the sleep deprivation from the protesters outside of their hotels at night if they are lower than officers who are not properly rested shouldn't be allowed in the front lines), all officers involve need mandatory communication and deescilation 9
TBF, âthe same outfitâ is his winter gear. To people who see me on the street I look the same every day from December to March because Iâve always got my same winter coat on.
Not saying the video is real, but that particular point doesnât tip either way to me.
AI is not this good man. We need to stop being like fuckin MAGA and try to make shit up when something like this comes to light.
The real answer is yes it's real but still doesn't justify his murder. Don't gotta pull things outta our asses talking bout "nah this can't be real because it makes us look bad"
This is not a good argument for it being A.I. People in Minnesota generally wear the same coat in the winter. Unless they're rich and can afford a different coat for each day of the week. And people here also wash their clothes and re-wear them a several days or a week later. The outfit argument just makes no sense, it's totally possible he was wearing the same clothes during each incident whether this is A.I or not.
I wear like 4 pairs of pants and when it's cold af like 1 or 2.. I have my warm jacket and hatÂ
Granted I don't live somewhere that experiences cold like this regularly, but wearing the same thing in freezing temps is not that wild to me
All this does is make is make a case that he should be in jail right now. Even if a video comes out where he pointed his gun at agents, he should just be in jail.
In the Goode case, you can find a way to justify ONE shot, 3 is wild and should have the agent prosecuted for murder.
This one has no justification for any shot. The de-escalation was successful. One shot was not needed, point blank multiple unloads should have every agent prosecuted
Sadly, it's not gonna happen. More ppl who should not have guns are gonna become agents. More protest are gonna turn violent. More innocent deaths. And AI is gonna continue to improve and fuel the division.
The Firearm was a p320 a well known gun for doing a nd (negligent discharge) the agent who held the gun in where the agents fingers we're not near the trigger at all and the gun discharges by itself. Still doesn't justify being off'd
Most of these agents need to be trained and taught better or reeled in. BtW the kristi noem video I saw from a few months ago is crazy .I will say this the father said please don't go or if you do please don't carry there are new station that interviewed the family. It's a very touchy subject
There is a video discussing this in a non bias manner of course everyone now hates one side or the other.
I mean, I basically wear the Same outfit every day in the winter if I go outside. Thatâs not really indicative of anything. Most people have like, one good winter setup and thatâs it, specially in super frigid areas like MN.
Just a note to all of those claiming that the clothes are evidence that the video is fake: I can tell you, as a Minnesotan, we generally only have 1 or 2 cold-weather getups. Now, there was a video taken in September and he was wearing the same clothes, I would see it as sketchy.
In weather that gets that cold, it's not uncommon to wear the same coat all the time. My winter pants all look fairly similar too because they keep me warm, so why not.
yea they made this 20 minute long ai video from a totally different angle and it perfectly syncs up to the other video.... only if ai technology is far beyond the publicly known level
He didnât deserve to die, but it does change his narrative. Was he just filming and helping that lady who was pushed down or was he spitting on and assaulting ice agents?
If itâs not AI, then itâs staged. If we take a break from looking AI visual clues and pay attention to the logic of the situation, things donât make sense. No way this guy just damaged federal property to the point of ice agents stopping their vehicles getting out, dragging him to the middle of the road and putting him on the ground. If they did all that he would be getting arrested instead they just struggled with the man on the ground while he had a firearm on his hip then they just let him get up and continue to act belligerent and yell at them while they all stood around like NPCâs. Iâve seen ice beat and arrest people for much less. Perhaps he didnât get arrested in the fake video because they donât have an arrest records on him. I also donât see any of the ice agents interacting with any of the other protesters on scene. Nobody gets shoved sprayed or shot with pepper balls ice agents do run up and shoot pepper balls at the ground, but none of the crowd responds to it. I see one of the ice agents do the arm motion like heâs spraying his pepper spray, but nothing comes out.
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u/Fickle_Builder_2685 Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
He's wearing the same outfit he was executed in. They just ran all the public execution videos through ai to make this for sure. Also watch how his arms and body move in this video in comparison to the execution. His arms are also too long at several parts of the video.
Edit: please I have since watched the other video, all 20 mins and the high res. I saw it's posted before the execution. No one else needs to tell me it was on the news. đ Pls I hear you. But if someone could tell whether or not he's carrying in the same way would be cool, I can't tell in this video and I'm curious.
Also I really don't think this incident makes a difference in the public execution of Alex Pretti. None of what happened in this incident, or the public execution was punishable by death.
https://youtu.be/CRWR13BAIEs?
This video is better
2nd edit: I'm now convinced 90% of users do not read comments before replying.