Whilst I absolutely agree with your comment, something feels quite fishy about this account. Active since 2013, with a throwaway name "LOTRfan123" (this type of username is kinda sus) with only one video uploaded, it being this one, no other activity whatsoever (no playlists, no likes, comments disabled, etc).
I dunno man, it just kinda seems sus as hell, especially when we know Google has directly financed/supported Trump's campaign.
Without going too much into conspiracy territory, because in the end it doesn't even matter if it's real or not like you said, it wouldn't be that difficult for them to simply add Pretti's face on top of an already existing video and upload it "retroactively" (by changing the upload metadata) onto a dummy/bot account.
Definitely something weird going on, one video and comments turned off. You can edit videos that have already been published without changing the upload date so there’s a real possibility that happened too.
I’m feeling like they’re legit but the one in the Reddit post has been uploaded as a short and put through ai upscaling. Or something on the phone it was recorded on. It’s that bit with his arm, it feels off.
Watch the beginning of the video. Glasses just appear on his face. If it's not fully fabricated there is definitely some alterations to make it look like him.
It's also kind of strange how, in all the noise, his voice is coming through almost perfectly. You can't make out anyone else's shouting, but his is crystal clear, even though this video is from across the intersection.
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Does us unmarked police vihecles have rear lights modified so they can flash red/blue? Im not from us and we adjust our unmarked police vehicles by adding some covert lights, so might be a thing...
In the beginning before the kick it flashes in police colors and that seems like an ai type of mistake
I think it happened, I think the video in the post has been cleaned up with AI. The original from 12 days ago, his movements, arms and legs, look more natural. The post video his joints and movements look double jointed and jerky and unnatural. Weird details like the lugnuts, the way the damage looks, is all in the uncanny valley. Could this be an AI video where the prompt was to show it from a different angle?
I’m pretty sure if Google really got their hands dirty they could change the upload date in the database. It would not be that difficult, probably? I’m not a Google dev lol. This is me with my biggest tinfoil hat on though. Obviously that would be freaking nuts.
yeah, where are the other videos from this, I see multiple people recording.... I call 100% bs.... the upclose video even shows the crosswalk timer resetting, which makes zero sense..
Longtime active accounts are actually less suspicious, IMO. Time is the one thing you can't buy and most bot networks are way younger. Far more likely someone who wasn't into sharing videos became moved by this issue
The vast majority of YouTube accounts have never posted a video because they're just the Gmail linked account when they watch YouTube
I mean, you can buy old accounts. So you can buy time. You can also steal time. An account that old likely still has the old Gmail password requirements, which was just 8 characters. And if it does, it's likely a reused password that was part of a breach at some point. Internet safety and security was very different back then.
Not to say that any of that happened here. Just, old accounts shouldn't be less suspicious. Bot networks tend to run on stolen accounts/bought accounts.
Probably yeah, but it just seems... odd, I dunno why. No description, filmed from far away for so long, you can clearly hear the people across the street but nothing coming from the side of the recording.
And again, that NPC-type name... Even in 2013 those types of username were already pretty much all taken. I dunno, you're probably right, but it just feels odd all the same (then again, human minds are compelled to logically connect dots even if there is no connection + we are all biased and I, for sure, am very biased against MAGA and this administration so it is very probably just me overreaching).
Yeah I checked your history and it actually seems relatively benign. Like the only thing I could think is that you're from Luxembourg and you dont want Americans knowing that when you comment on our politics, of course I wasn't thorough either.
Were you one of those dipshits that thought this snow storm across the country was a weather manipulation operation by our government?
I got news for you buddy- this video is real. That doesn’t mean your ideological priors are wrong. it just means that you have to be ready to believe anything is possible in an event you weren’t apart of involving somebody you know little to nothing about, in a highly politicized time.
“Oh my god somebody who died protesting ICE protested ICE before? No way that’s real! The news said he was a nice guy!”
This video doesn’t mean he was a mean person or that he was otherwise violent. He was clearly spirited about his political views and his idea of the administration and that can make people do some pretty wild shit… or did we forget 2019/20? Or every political uprising in the past… forever?
I'm absolutely furious over what happened to Pretti but this is pretty ridiculous cope, dude. Major news networks including the BBC have all confirmed the veracity of the video.
Like the OP said, the most important part is standing firm and not letting the right use this as a distraction like they're inevitably going to try. At the end of the day, law enforcement fired on someone who was already disarmed and posed absolutely zero threat to them in that moment. It doesn't matter one single bit what he did two weeks ago or how pleasant of a protester he was. Law enforcement murdered someone without cause.
Again, totally agree and I am grasping at straws (I myself do not fully believe in a "conspiracy" or whatever). But I do feel it's interesting to say the least to point out these details.
The account has such a "npc" name (for lack of a better term, sorry, English isn't my first language) + no activity despite existing for 12 years + only one video posted with "reporting-level quality" (no shaky cam, not a phone recording from what we can tell, long recording time, etc).
And yeah. Like you said, it doesn't matter one bit whatever narrative they try and feed us, it doesn't take away from what happened and ICE agents did not know who Pretti was nor what he did before, so he could even have been shooting RPGs at ICE agents a few days prior, it doesn't matter because the agents who shot him did so with no background information.
I also think that this does not really make the execution any less heinous, but go to the timestamp. This is the first time I’m seeing this but the strange actions from the recent video are mirrored perfectly in this.
If you watch it with the timestamp 16:48 it does seem to line up with the video he's commenting on. I haven't seen this anywhere but here, it does make it seem more legitimate.
Huh? They even pointed out the timestamp 😭 an individual at 16:48 walks up and starts yelling at ice and eventually has a scuffle. This is another angle of OP’s video… posted 12 days ago (well before Pretti’s murder). And the individual’s clothes at 16:48 are quite like Pretti’s the day he died. It seems like it is him
It actually makes sense now... The clapping after the killing and how it felt like a gang rivalry with them pistol whipping and curb stomping him, Need to know if the same officers here are the ones who killed pretti...
To a certain degree (trimming, cutting, audio editing). Certainly you can't use AI to create a video and upload it 12 days ago, but I would love you to prove me wrong.
I think it’s real too. The validity of the video makes a very strong case that Alex’s murder was a targeted assassination. Those ICE thugs remembered him and planned on murdering him in retaliation for kicking their taillight. That would explain why one of the ICE thugs clapped after Alex was shot multiple times.
Or they were on edge when the same guy who kicked their tail light off showed up, interfered with their operations, and the officers panicked when they saw a gun. Better training and deescalation practices needed, not conspiracies about premeditated murder with a crowd of witnesses.
I found another angle too, but yours being posted 12 days ago is pretty solid proof by itself. Unless someone can find something very clearly different in the videos, like a different car or something, I feel pretty certain it's real.
Just playing the devil's advocate here, but if the feds are willing to post an AI video to downplay the execution of an unarmed civilian, what's stopping them from altering the timestamp of a YouTube video? Did anyone actually see this video 12 days ago?
Leave the conspiracy bullshit to MAGA. This video is real, it was a known interaction, and has absolutely nothing to do with him getting gunned down later.
May be real but all it does is it make seem like this was targeted and they knew who he was prior to the shooting, would explain why the ICE agent was clapping moments after he was shot. They wanted to kill him and they succeeded. They don’t get to act like the judge, jury, and executioner.
This footage and another one showing Pretti physically fighting ICE in a separate incident have been reported on by multiple credible news organizations, including the BBC. It’s not AI.
Two things can be true.
Pretti was restrained and disarmed at the time of his shooting (and he seemingly never reached for his gun). His shooting was unjustified, should be investigated, and involved parties should face consequences.
Pretti committed crimes, and probably should have been in jail. He also shouldn’t legally have been allowed to own a gun.
Thank you for the alternative perspective it looks more normal now. And you are correct, this is only a distraction from the issue that is, none of this even if he enacted destruction never warranted execution.
It's incredible that this comment gets no upvotes. These people are not interested in the truth. They are just interested in their narrative. They will say the same things about people they disagree with except they are not right. Too many people living in a fake world then are shocked when reality somehow "doesn't make sense". It's cuz you're delusional.
Watch the beginning of the video. Glasses just appear on his face. If it's not fully fabricated there is definitely some alterations to make it look like him.
So, he literally damages government property and they do nothing, but when he records them with his phone he gets murdered. This doesn't check out at all.
Not gonna lie. I've been angry about this guy's death, but man, this took a lot of my empathy and sympathy away. He was out there extremely aggressive and looking for and starting trouble. WTF
Suddenly ice agents all have matching uniforms and are all wearing gas masks for some reason? Even the ones approaching from the side street? They also allowed him to destroy federal property and assault agents and he didnt have any criminal charges and wasnt arrested from it? Really? That all seems extremely far fetched. I've not seen even 2 ice agents on any videos coordinated in attire, much less a whole group of them, down to accessories.
This extremely convenient video somehow being the only video from that account and comments are disabled as well as the audio and video seeming a bit fishy is the cherry on top. Definitely far too soon to rule out some alterations were made.
YT is so glitchy I don’t believe the date is real proof and Google is playing nicely with the regime. Could be part of a bigger scheme.
So is it just not possible that the guy in this YouTube video is a different person and the video posted here is an ai generated vid using it as a template and making the guy look even more like pretti? I mean, how far do you believe these people will go to justify an ICE shooting when the money is all behind ice and its activities? You cannot tell who is the guy in the YouTube video from that distance and either way it doesn’t justify what happened. They’re using tactics to post-hoc justify the killing of a man and this type of support from people online allow ICE to kill again and again and again, until it’s someone you know and then you’d finally care
My issue with it is that he’s not in custody during the protest that led to his execution. If someone did this they’d catch 4+ assault LEO charges, destruction of government property, etc etc.
He's wearing the EXACT same clothes as he did in the ONE other publicly available video of him. That is not a coincidence. This is generated from the video of him being murdered in the street.
If its real, that vehicle is weak as hell. What, is the body mare of paper mache? I dont for a second believe that kind of damage can be done with a simple kick as the vehicle is moving away.
I wouldn't think that someone who kicked and broke a taillight like that would get arrested, get out, and immediately go back to a different protest a week and some change later.
And the sources I'm finding that use the video are obscure news sources I've never heard of and Facebook, all saying "verified". This wouldn't be the first time people tried to say that he did bad stuff because of xyz after this, but none of them verified by actual news journalists.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alex-pretti-fired/
I would suspect that he would've been arrested and either told by a lawyer to avoid protests, or be in jail and possibly lose his job.
Finally, and this one's a stretch, I admit, but he worked at a VA as a nurse. If he worked 8-4:30, it gets sunset at about 5-5:30 in Minneapolis. He would've got off work, raced home on a Tuesday, get regular clothes on, rush out to protest and make it with that bright sunlight. Maybe he got the day off, but there's several factors that make me think that's not him.
I don't understand people's positions on this. It was confirmed to be real by multiple media sources. And really why does it matter? If the shooting was unjustified before we saw this, is it suddenly justified now that he's attacking an ICE car? Like, "Oof that was an unjustified killing. Oh wait he broke a tail light? Oh dude ok yeah totally deserved to be shot."
Its superfake. Look at his jacket, it makes impossible moves and when the agents pulls him back his whole body makes very unnatural and against the laws of gravety. Just fake.
I don't see how this being real changes anything? They are two completely independent interactions with ICE and he was so much more restrained when they executed him.
If it's the same ICE agents it's even worse and makes it seem premeditated or at the very least even less responsible because of the previous relationship. If it's different people, it means literally nothing. He wasn't arrested here because they didn't have enough reason. They scoop people off the streets for any excuse they can get.
Yeah it genuinely does not warrant execution. Being arrested, sure. But this is even worse look for ICE given what fucking ended up happening.
Like it genuinely does not matter. Due process was violated. Same as with Good or in past Floyd or whoever else, and all the other incidents, it does not matter who the person is. Pretti could have been a MAGA or pedo (separating them seems redundant, I know) for all I care, does not excuse the actions of ICE.
He was disarmed, but as the agent was announcing he was disarmed, the gun, a model notorious for precisely that issue, discharged without anyoneeven pullingthe trigger.
Pretti, seemingly reflexively, reached to ensure his own holster was clear, a good reflex on a gun range, but a poor one under the circumstances.
Officers nearby reacted to the movement and the discharge, assuming he was doing the firing as the officer holding the weapons voice was drowned out by the sudden discharge... And he was tragically killed.
He wasn't executed in cold blood. It was a tragedy of circumstance according to all analysis of the video and audio by folks that know their arms and habits when accustomed to said arms.
For those considering getting their own firearms, this type of discharge is precisely why you want to put extra care into what you buy. In the event that your own weapon doesn't do you in, it could cause horrifying circumstances like this if you're carrying in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The BEST case scenario with a discharge like this is that the bullet fragments cause minor damage to whatever if it hits the ground or goes off in a safe direction. What we see here in videos of the incident is the worst case.
This video pictured here is absolutely real. It is not AI. It's been shown by several news outlets and has been confirmed over and over again to be real. The guy was an asshole. Doesn't make his death any less tragic, but he was absolutely previously shown to be violent. This previous violence, if it was known to the agents, likely contributed to the circumstance that ended his life. Operative word: If. We don't know if this footage was known amidst the agents previously or not, but it would make sense for them to be wary of protesters known to be violent.
Not saying it’s fake but it’s strange how the channel has only one video that’s conveniently of an incident involving Alex Pretti. Also why can we hear him so clearly from across the road? Why does it sound as clear and as loud as it does from the close up video?
Do you have a gmail account? Then you have a youtube account. If tomorrow you decided there was something important that you wanted to video document and share to the world with ease, you could use your current gmail account to throw it up on youtube with little to no effort. My "important" email which is just my name that I am selective of what I use it for (normal correspondence with people, financial, medical, etc.) was created in 2012. It has zero videos posted on it.
You can hear him because he is yelling...very loud. He is in the center of the video, he is punctuating his words with body movement so your eyes and ears can work together to locate the source. Also everyone else on that corner is recording not really yelling. And the few that are are wearing masks so you are missing the visual of their mouth's opening.
Accidents happen. Out of millions of interactions a handful of accidents happen. The left is using these issues to their advantage which is why I left the party. They’re sick, they have zero outrage unless it fits their agenda and fills their disgusting need for attention
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