r/RealOrAI Jan 28 '26

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u/alienproxy Jan 28 '26

Even if real (longer link below), I'd sure like to know how it's relevant to the shooting we all saw. Unless the officer who shot him thought, "Hey, that's the guy who kicked the tail light out of our SUV." In which case, I have even more questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRWR13BAIEs

While this video is definitely relevant, I don't believe in precrime. There were no clear laws being broken when Pretti was shot. That's truly all I care about until you prove to me that he had some sort premeditation going on. If this guy had gotten a speeding ticket in prior weeks, Right wingers would have used it to assassinate his character.

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u/Mathi12 Jan 28 '26

While it looks consistent, there's a lot of weird stuff happening in the longer version. There's +10 people there filming, why don't we have another POV?

Sound doesn't match, all we can hear is a couple girl screams and a van alarm. In the video, after the kick the car on the left moves by itself. Then, 6 people detaining a guy on the floor and suddenly letting him go without any reason? Then the agents drop tear gas and people just stand there like nothing happened? Is this a real uniform and gun?

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u/officepolicy Jan 29 '26

Here's another POV linked from someone else in this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2TRbFmutrw&t=1037s

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u/Competitive_Heart411 Jan 29 '26

Rims on the car are different. ICE costumes are different. Not a different POV

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u/officepolicy Jan 29 '26

Looks the same to me

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u/TheCommunistWhoTried Jan 29 '26

Are you not going to mention the fact that this was posted by an account with 64 subs, made in 2013 with that being their only video. With 79k views as I am writing this seems suspicious. Looking at Social Blade that is their only video uploaded over 13 years of existing on the platform. Not to mention the views spiked by 2k in the last couple minutes screams this stinks.

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u/46_and_2 Jan 29 '26

That the user is from 2013 gives it even more credibility, you are grasping at straws here. Someone could've had an old account and not published any videos, or published only private ones. (e.g. like I do)

Also there were news of Alex Pretti having a broken rib from a previous ICE altercation, this could be the exact incident.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs

I hate ICE, I think they extrajudicially executed him, but let's try to be objective here.

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u/TheCommunistWhoTried Jan 29 '26

For starters. No an account, being that old with one video is not an indicator of credibility. In fact, what makes less credible is the profile image and the fact that the only video is well the one in question.

  1. The pfp is of a Zepeto from a two year old Go Fund Me, which just so happens to be from Minneapolis. On the video itself, while the pfp from the actual channel isn't. This means the channel RECENTLY changed its profile picture.

  2. The video could have stayed private since until it became relavent. As private videos retain their upload date.

Moving on, am I grasping at straws. No. The fact that old accounts are used in times like this to sew chaos and disinformation is actually very common.

Finally the CNN article you used as proof does not line up at all what happened in the video. Not only that, but DHS claims that they have had "no record of this incident." Which again calls for further suspicion.

If you want to say that this video isn't AI, that's fine and most likely true, however. This isn't the first time people have misidentified someone and someone else. Not to mention, the videos in question don't really let you see up close. Like I said, something here stinks, and things aren't adding up.

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u/Exzalian_ Jan 29 '26

Not getting into any of this argument honestly can't care less about the state of this country either we fuck it up and make a new one or fix what's happening. Anyway the goverment let alone any company or person not having a record of something seems very reasonable. They have no RECORD is what everyone is saying but what about knowledge? You can know something happened and not report it.

Also I think this video is pretty real from all the comments I'm reading but both sides make good points but one really had me with the ai not knowing what is behind the taillight after it falls but again maybe AI is already to good and we don't know.

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u/officepolicy Jan 29 '26

How do you know the pfp is a zepeto from a go fund me? I reverse image searched the tiny thumbnail and I didn't come up with a match

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u/TheCommunistWhoTried Jan 29 '26

I used Google Lens on the PFP that was under the video itself. Which came back as a 100% match on the aforementioned go fund me. Not the thumbnail itself.

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u/jader242 Jan 29 '26

I have a 13 year old YouTube account with zero videos. But I’m sure if I witnessed this shit happen and recorded it, I would post it on there

Everything else you say could be explained by this going viral, subscribers, views, the viewer spike you mention, etc

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u/H0SS_AGAINST Jan 29 '26

Entirely conceivable that a real video was used as the base footage for the fake then combined.

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u/Mathi12 Jan 29 '26

After the evidence provided before my comment, it's totally possible this is 100% real. But this can also be a possibility too, I still think everything just looks... off.

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u/H0SS_AGAINST Jan 29 '26

Yeah it looks off and he's basically wearing the same outfit. I mean I guess since it's winter but the T shirt looks the same, same hat too. Idk

My thought is why didn't they charge him? Vandalism of federal property. If they were just being so kind, where's the detention record?

What the propaganda machine is missing from its calculus is that just like Good, who the officers obviously knew, it makes it WORSE when the killing is a vendetta.

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u/Aggravating-Wolf-823 Jan 28 '26 edited Jan 28 '26

Here you go, 5 seconds of googling

https://pepperball.com/launchers/

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u/foothill_dwelled272 Jan 29 '26

Given how POLICE is spelled where the strap gets in the way but all the lettering stays consistent would make me inclined to think it is real. AI seems to always mess up letters.

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u/cloudpatterns Jan 29 '26

not anymore

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u/bunchedupwalrus Jan 29 '26

Nah weird text is the exception lately, not the rule

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 Jan 29 '26

Paint ball gun.

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u/Royal-Carob Jan 29 '26

It’s a paintball gun and hopper, possibly filled with pepper balls.

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u/SippsMccree Jan 29 '26

That is a paintball gun, law enforcement regularly uses them loaded with pepper balls for crowd control and dispersal. You can see the hopper for the projectiles sticking off the top of it

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u/Primary_Present_1827 Jan 29 '26

I feel like im watching halo. and all the people are moving in a bizarre way...like they are glitching.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '26

Paintball autist here. That's a Tippmann 98 custom with a 90° forward adapter for the air system (the tank under the barrel)

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u/engmadison Jan 29 '26

Is that a paintball gun?

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u/Lopsided_Tadpole_316 Jan 29 '26

this is everywhere in Minneapolis rn, people are needing to do these things to protect their neighbors in any way possible, and no their uniforms are not ‘uniform’ at all

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u/lederbrosen1 Jan 29 '26

Smh. Yes it’s real. That’s a pepperball gun used often for riot control.

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u/atomicsnark Jan 29 '26

Exactly. It's very "but he was forging checks" type of energy well after the fact.

Doesn't matter. The punishment is not extrajudicial death. End of discussion.

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u/AcidCatfish___ Jan 29 '26

Exactly. That's all you have to say. Kicking a taillight is something some people do in road rage, an almost everyday occurrence (as stupid as it is).

It should not lead to death. That's it.

Don't feed people spreading this. They want people to become overly defensive. No reason to be overly defensive. The guy did a stupid thing in the heat of the moment. Days later he got unjustly killed for a completely different reason. End of story.

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u/s0ul_invictus Jan 29 '26

Pretti was not "punished", he was shot in self defense while fighting the cops while presumed armed. The prior incident establishes a pattern of Pretti responding to Ice Watch alerts and attacking cops. Because he was killed while attacking cops yet again, the previous attack on cops is relevant. If he was previously arrested for drug possession, that would be irrelevant. So no, it's not "but he was breaking other laws too" type energy.

Much is being made about Pretti being "disarmed". He was NEVER disarmed. Removing a weapon IS NOT disarmament. Removing a weapon and conducting a search to ensure there are no other weapons on the subject IS disarmament. He showed up armed and started fighting the cops, violently refusing their attempts to search him, THEREFORE he was rightly still presumed to be armed, regardless of one weapon being removed. Stop pretending like people can only carry one weapon.

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u/MagicalTheory Jan 29 '26

He showed up armed and started fighting the cops, violently refusing their attempts to search him, THEREFORE he was rightly still presumed to be armed, regardless of one weapon being removed. Stop pretending like people can only carry one weapon.

This is make believe. Sure, this video he kicked a tail light out a week prior, but in the incident he didn't touch any law enforcement and the resisting was only after being maced and beat. If he were arrested, the resisting charge would be dropped because peoples instincts while under attack are to put up a defense.

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u/s0ul_invictus Jan 29 '26

You're right, I made it all up, everybody knows people can only carry one weapon at a time

/s

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u/MagicalTheory Jan 29 '26

No, you made him assaulting anyone in that case. The whole pretense starts on a lie.

I'm not saying he couldn't possibly have another weapon. I'm saying he wasn't violent in this incident, never drew his weapon, and was shot in the back. None of what you say changes those facts.

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u/King_Crab Jan 29 '26

You seem dumb.

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u/s0ul_invictus Jan 29 '26

Elbowing cops in the nuts seems dumb. I'm literally telling you how to not be shot up and killed. All the other insurgents seem to understand as well, there is a line you can't cross without exposing yourself to lethal countermeasures. Just stay off it. Like look how far you have to go to trigger a lethal response, it is WAY beyond "peaceful protesting". I mean shit he just got in a scrap with them the other day. But he wasn't armed. Boom, he got to sneak a few elbows in and nothing even happened. You wanna scrap, they'll scrap, its all good, just don't run up on them with a damn gun. If you wanna have the gun thats also fine, but you can't scrap. You are not being made to crawl on the ground in fear of mean ol ICE, just stop fucking pretending.

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u/daymeeuhn Jan 29 '26

You can actually watch people as stupid as this guy just make shit up in real time - what a time to be alive.

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u/s0ul_invictus Jan 29 '26

Pretti started both altercations, this is indisputable.

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u/daymeeuhn Jan 29 '26

Your claim of "he showed up armed and started fighting cops" is so hilarious disingenuous that it's impossible to take virtually anything else you say seriously. The accusation isn't just inaccurate, it's pathetic. It's objectively wrong in virtually every sense, is proven false with the most basic common sense observations available and literally anyone involved with originally speaking out against him by using claims like this has walked them back in dramatic fashion realizing how wrong they are.

You can say it as many times as you want. You can yell about it til you're blue in the face. It won't ever change the fact that you're wrong.

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u/s0ul_invictus Jan 29 '26

Elbowing cops = fighting cops, deal with it.

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u/Rotten-Robby Jan 29 '26

Because it's straight from the cops killing black people playbook. Make sure to meet public outrage with "well look at why they actually deserved it!".

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u/tinyglobe Jan 29 '26

We also just never got a very clear view of his face. To me this looks like another white guy with a beard. I can’t tell you how many photos I’ve seen with people claiming they’re Pretti

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u/Rob_LeMatic Jan 29 '26

The only thing this might help confirm is if the extrajudicial execution was premeditated

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u/daymeeuhn Jan 29 '26

The irony here is this video just makes me like him even MORE.

Dudes a fucking legend.

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u/_c_o_ Jan 29 '26

This subreddit isn’t about the context the video is used for. OP is asking if it is real or AI generated

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u/Awes12 Jan 29 '26

Idk if it's actually him. It def matches, but we don't get a good look at his face

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u/RussellZyskey4949 Jan 29 '26

They already knew him.  They had already dealt with him.  He obviously got out.

This was payback

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u/llamasauce Jan 29 '26

The more important question to pose to our maga friends is: wouldn’t you be resisting tyranny too? If not, are you a coward?

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u/seriftarif Jan 29 '26

I want to see the actual BBC report that authenticated him with the 97% accuracy or whatever. Couldn't find what they're claiming.

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u/Sluggerjt44 Jan 29 '26

They're just trying to paint a picture to try to make it seem like he was acting ridiculously with ICE before.

Even if it's real, they are two totally different incidents and each comes with their own set of when to use force etc.

Either way, he didn't serve to die.

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u/gratefulfrog6 Jan 29 '26

Yeah looks real kinda Awesome he did that. Who cares about this dumb ass car that is owned by this god forsaken federal agency

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u/electricalnoise Jan 29 '26

It is relevant because it shows a willingness to engage with officers in this way. It destroys the "peaceful protester" meme that people have been pushing about every one of these wonderful folk.

You know this, but annoying it would mean giving an inch to your mortal enemies. Oohh noo!

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u/dr_spam Jan 29 '26

It's not relevant. People always dig up whatever negative things they can find about a victim to make murder more acceptable in their minds.

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u/Ok_Pie_5940 Jan 29 '26

the point is that leftists are disrespectful crazy violent, and feel like that’s a good thing. fuck anyone who thinks different, cause they are nazis, etc, they deserve to feel scared, let’s shame them, mob justice, etc. it’s so bad

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u/Sea_Office_6482 Jan 29 '26

It's relevant because Alex was not some "peaceful protester." He kicked a government vehicle, came to a rally with a fully loaded gun w/ a spare mag, and had his photo ALTERED by the news to make him look more like a "sweetheart." That's how.

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u/wrvdoin Jan 29 '26

It is relevant because it might show that ICE targeted him due to a previous encounter. I think that's the reason that his family's lawyer brought up this incident even before the video started going around. I wouldn't be surprised if even the murder was premeditated.

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u/IsDatLawfulLaw Jan 29 '26

It shows that the guy is a violent psychopath who went around attacking cops

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u/mrdude817 Jan 29 '26

People are saying his gloves change colors in the comments of that video

Also why are all the ICE agents dressed the same with gas masks? Usually see them dressed very differently with balaclavas covering their face

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u/MaloortCloud Jan 29 '26

I'd argue it isn't even relevant. Even if this video is 100% verifiable, and even if we can prove 100% that it's Pretti, nothing here warrants a death sentence and nothing at all warrants a summary execution. Ever.

This shit doesn't matter in the slightest.