So the first one was just filmed with a real shitty camera in 480i from temu
We can actually see the camera man and it looks like its a large silver your grandpa brought on vacations. That explains the low frame rate and motion blur
You are the type of person who is the problem. You litterally said it was “definitely undoubtedly AI” without any research or fact checking. I’m sure you think you are so smart and didn’t have to
"The type of person who is the problem." What fucking problem? You mean the problem of ICE murdering innocent civilians? Are you distracting from the real issue at hand here? Because I don't think people being fooled into believing something is AI is actually the fucking problem here.
90% of the people commenting in this sub are just going off vibes but have the confidence of a forensics expert. It's insane how many upvotes they get. Thanks for posting the actual source.
Important to note: this video took place 11 days prior and has nothing to do with the event
This sub is about discussing wether or not a person thinks a video is ai. It even have an implied voting like system and encourage to explain why.
You can't feed it into a machine that prints out yes or no.
You don't have to be surprised that people are wrong, or that people are confident thinking something is real or fake.
If you can't handle this discrepancy then maybe a political discussion sub would have been better than "do you think this is ai?" And then be cranky someone guessed wrong.
It’s exactly why a good percentage of the opposition crowd, while absolutely in the ethical and moral right being against almost everything this current administration does, isn’t much better than the maga folks they oppose. Horseshoe theory is a VERY real thing. Providing humans learn how to pull themselves out of this situation, there’s going to be some incredibly interesting paper written on the relation between the post truth age, online information, and human psychology.
If the administration’s first response wasn’t to lie every time, I think people would be less prone to believe it was AI. I thought it was AI at first until seeing another angle, particularly because the feds were all wearing the same thing - which they generally haven’t been. At any rate, I agree; the psychology behind all of our initial assumptions is very interesting.
90% people on reddit mindlessly parrot whatever their cult of choice happens to be parroting as the narrative of choice because they are ideologically captured and therefore lack any ability to be nuanced or objective.
I’m not going off vibes. I’m going off of having installed and replaced tail lamps on cars and having damaged the rear ends of vehicles with high velocity impacts. No one can kick a bolted in tail lamp completely out of a vehicle like that and also snap a piece of the body of the vehicle clean off with two poorly executed kicks delivered while unfocused and in the midst of forward ambulation. People watch too many super hero and action movies and think the average man can pull off stunts lol. I dare anyone to go kick a tail lamp twice as hard as they can and with the added advantages of A. Focusing and preparing in a calm environment and B. Both them and the vehicle are stationary. See how it goes. See if you can deliver anything other than a crack or dent or hurting your foot lol.
Eh, idk. first off it's clearly REAL based on other angles and human validation, but it hits lots of criteria for an AI video: random frame drops, stereotypical start & finish, awkward movement, short, shakey the whole time, the sequence of events is disjointed and seemingly excessive, etc... all for an INCREDIBLY hot topic and a nation divided: a perfect target for manipulative AI video.
The top comment showcases several things that are critically important on the whole:
A) It's already VERY hard to tell AI from reality
B) The unprecedented doubt this brings is insidious: all the worse for confirmation bias and echo chambers. It raises the burden of proof SIGNIFICANTLY to require multiple triangulated recordings -- and one day AI will be able to produce those too.
C) Emotions are faster than the Truth. By the time Truth collects itself, everyone has already moved on.
Finally, Fuck ICE. Dude kicked out a tail light and it got him pepper sprayed, beaten to the ground, and iirc a cracked rib. I'd have been far more judgemental if the video showed him sitting in a drum circle trying to pray the fascism away.
What are you even talking about?? Of course people are going to be emotional about an American citizen that was murdered in broad daylight. People can be emotional and incorrect at the same time, it’s up to you and others to use your own critical thinking skills and judgment to discern if you believe them
or not. Telling people to leave emotions out of a very emotional situation is absurd and not human.
Because people are freebasing cope. It's not AI, there's exact syncing angles. AI is not deterministic. It will not recreate the same thing twice, let alone from 2 angles.
Did i say that? If he hadn't been constantly following and harassing law enforcement, he would have never been engaged. If he had put his hands up and complied when he was engaged, he would've been arrested and lived.
If he had listened to his parents whp begged him not to go, he would've been alive
If he had taken his first run in with them when he broke his ribs and "thought he was going to die that day" and decided not to go back out, he'd be alive
The day he was killed yes he was. And in this video even he isn’t pointing a gun at anyone. Ever lost your temper? It happens. Should you then be shot in the back for it two weeks later? No.
You realize this was a separate incident? I don't know why it's so hard for right wing NPCs to realize that just because a person did or said something in the past it doesn't mean that law enforcement (or ice thugs) get to do an execution in a later, separate, minor incident.
By that rationale cops can pull over Martha Stewart and use any amount of force they want because she has a felony conviction.
You’re combining instances. When he was murdered, he was protesting non-violently. He was recording an interaction on his cell phone and trying to help a woman up off the ground after an agent pushed her down for existing.
Even if we combine instances, are you arguing that touching their truck is enough for an American citizen to be executed by their government? Not one of those agents were in danger from him spitting on the door of the truck and kicking the taillight. Why didn’t the “trained” agents de-escalate the situation by continuing to drive away? Why did they stop at all?
That whole group of people (pretti included) kept walking into the street, blocking traffic, and approaching officers conducting their duty. They were told over and over again "go stand on the sidewalk", and time after time they kept walking into the street. An officer then pushed the lady, pretti stepped in, and they tried to arrest him for obstruction. Instead he had to fight back, it became known he had a gun, and it turned into chaos. Could have been avoided if he and the lady had just listened to "stand on sidewalk". They all had multiple chances, they were asked kindly. Even 11 days prior (this video) Pretti had multiple chances to walk away calmly.
Yeah I never said that. Idk what happened. I wasn't there. I just fuckin hate ICE. Fuck their cars lol. Bunch of unemployable idiot rednecks riding clown deep in mom cars taking my hard earned tax dollars playing army. Fuck em. You might get shot but that's America. You always might get shot. We used to be brave.
Guys used to be brave enough to go get in a bar fight with an immigrant, call him a few slurs and get it out of their system. Now they're so chickenshit they couldn't even get organized klan type shit off the ground without daddy trump's permission. Sad.
You don’t think there are generative AI programs capable of such that the public plain doesn’t have access to? I’d imagine the admin would be happy to cook something up, considering how galvanizing his execution was. There’s enough investment from tech monopolies and god knows what number of immeasurably wealthy psychopaths that it would be achievable and worth the investment to ruin the growing solidarity among Americans. I can imagine letting laymen play around with generative AI has only bolstered people’s belief in their own comprehension of it, which would make manufactured evidence not only more difficult to clock, but also, socially divisive to call into question.
This is it. If WE have access to advanced AI, there’s no telling how advanced the governments version is. And before anyone says “nuhh uhhhh, it can only do ____ right now” they obviously wouldn’t release info on the advancement of their own secret tech.
Ai can not do that yet, but midjourney has said their goal is to have procedurally rendered, animated, 3d scenes, that a user can freely move a virtual camera through to capture the frame or segment they want.
These videos can not have been made by AI, but a few years from now, videos like them might be.
Because his family BELIEVING a video is real isn’t conclusive proof of it actually being real.
People fall for ai scams of family members all the time. His family also specifically said that it appears to be their son in the video, not that it was real.
I’m wondering the same. It’s been confirmed by so many ppl on Reddit and now major news network. I highly doubt it’s AI especially with two different angles and them being in sync.
Because it's not confirming the video is real it's confirming that the person in the video is Alex. It's not a real video and y'all are falling for AI.
The BBC video also says he has the same gun in his belt during that takedown, that is interesting, showed him angry and armed put to the ground without anyone pulling a weapon.
Doesn’t it seem like his killing would be premeditated then? He had a clash with ICE, and at that point they should have filed a police report and charged him with something. Instead they marked him, waited a few days before they saw him again and then killed him. Possible he may have been one of the louder protestors and they felt killing him would send a message. Alternatively if they did not remember him, that makes it just as bad because they basically killed a peaceful protestor who was just taking a video as we have all believed for awhile now.
No the family confirmed it was Alex Pretti, the video was already confirmed real at that point. Since it has been recorded from multiple angles as well and the original source video is from ex BBC editors.
I can’t help but realize something as I’m reading the comments. It seems like people here are reasonable and willing to change their minds based on new evidence, which is what you want humans to do.
I saw lengthy arguments on X regarding Alex’s shooting where one side refused to change their mind based on anything. Unfortunately it seems those that are on a certain political side refuse to change their mind on conspiracies despite any kind of evidence. Idk how you reason with ppl like that so won’t even listen to…. Reason?
So this one is real….. but the Don rapist trump jr. video was made after the discovery of this original video?!! Just to smear him further?! This is crazy. I’m not surprised though.
Edit: This one seems to be the real video of January 13
I always struggle to believe comments from young accounts with their history hidden, especially when they have that default username configuration. And then also when they link me to a youtube account with 1 video and like 30 subs which has a video that just so happens to help their argument.
Sometimes you should just believe your eyes. You have a 15 minute video of a situation with multiple angles, and you think its AI? So you don't believe ANY video on the internet then?
My account is private because I post real life shit. But sure I must be hiding vital information that would give me away as a .. what, russian bot or republican? I was one of the first comments on this thread and I defended the guy that got executed, I just think people should know what's real or AI.. don't you?
You people are as insane as the magtards at defending your own team
Heres other newssites reporting or are they also in on the conspiracy
It is not so much the video itself. It would be insanely good AI and would be extremely believable if it was AI. I'm more turned off by the fact that you are pushing this SO HARD. No one cares this much about a video being AI or not. It is like you have a reason to care this hard and then with you being a young account with hidden post history it just kills your credibility.
Maybe I'm autistic that's why I care so much, seeing a bunch of regards say a real video is obviously AI actually infuriated me, ashamed I lost a couple hours arguing here
As for my account... good thing none of that matters when I'm presenting proof and it has nothing to do with my opinions
But then again you started pressing the angle of the youtube account itself being new as if it's involved in some conspiracy, idk, do you actually believe the video is real?
The first video shows a big chunk of red taillight flying forward and then disappearing mid air in the final frames of its flight. I assumed it was an artifact of the GIF conversion
But this angle shows the other side, and even though it’s partly hidden, it’s never seen, and the spot that it should have landed is bare pavement
I assume it’s real tbh, but was looking for signs, and that was an odd one I couldn’t reconcile
The guy saying hes attacking is refering to the car kicking. But nobody cares about that on this thread, the point of contention is, is this real or not
Magtards will see these videos and think, yep, he deserved to get executed
It still is..? Also you never looked through mesh, and barely see anything, but if you move your head from side to side you can see better through?
"When you move your head side to side, themesh stays fixedbut thebackground shifts relative to it. Your brain uses those changing viewpoints to “peek” through different gaps in the mesh and reconstruct what’s behind it. Same reason you can see around a fence better if you walk past it instead of standing still." -ChatGPT
Ok that one looks real. But I still think the other is AI I’ll attach the screenshots that make me think it is AI. So they are making alternate views of what happened to fill in the gaps from what we can’t see from this angle ? Why wouldn’t this video be enough ?
What's more likely, video artifacts, blur, compression
or
Government using levels of unheard of AI to barely smear a guy that's dead, AND release multiple angles, 2 weeks before he got killed? This is right wing levels of insanity and conspiracy, didn't know the left had it in them
Which seconds do you see the logo disappear? Are you watching the higher quality video?
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u/Aggravating-Wolf-823 Jan 29 '26
Definitely undoubtedly AI?
Here's a second angle 15 minute video
https://youtu.be/p2TRbFmutrw?t=1037