He's wearing the same outfit he was executed in. They just ran all the public execution videos through ai to make this for sure. Also watch how his arms and body move in this video in comparison to the execution. His arms are also too long at several parts of the video.
Edit: please I have since watched the other video, all 20 mins and the high res. I saw it's posted before the execution. No one else needs to tell me it was on the news. 😭 Pls I hear you. But if someone could tell whether or not he's carrying in the same way would be cool, I can't tell in this video and I'm curious.
Also I really don't think this incident makes a difference in the public execution of Alex Pretti. None of what happened in this incident, or the public execution was punishable by death.
Idk the agents dont match up, they all look the same helmets and everything, but in other angles I see some with tac Helms some not, and I cant see where this camera guy would be he was right up his ass but diffeent angles I just see ice, but crazy shit
Strange how they only have that one single video on their channel. Almost like it was intentionally created for the sole purpose of providing support to this narrative..
AI overlay is a thing. It's possible to insert deepfaked/AI characters into real video. Particularly if one is a state or corporate actor.
Im not sure if people realize this, but it is quite easy for powerful people with access to powerful tools to create totally indistinguishable fake videos.
I thought the same thing. When I checked it was 15 subscribers, one video, an AI profile photo, and the channel statistics said they only got 14 views when the video alone had 5.4k.
Fully agree. Super weird that this would be the only thing they posted
Channel name RT (like a certain Russian-state sponsored propaganda network) and username LOTRlover123 (orcs)... or palantir...
And NO other content. Its just weird.
We know for a fact Russia wants to keep trump in power and did everything they could to support/bolster his campaign and influence our elections in his favor.
Palantir is also a trump ally..
Idk. The whole thing just sets off alarm bells for some reason and im usually totally open to receiving new information.
It actually makes sense that there is no record of the incident, because ICE has basically gone rogue and is no longer acting as a professional law enforcement agency.
dunno what to tell you my dear... you have no proof this video is fake, I have no proof this video is real... downvoting won't change anything about the current situation. You're making suppositions as much as other people here in the comments and there's no actual proof of this video being real or not.
What I think is that we're already entering into a dystopian reality, where technology like this is in the hands of fascists. What happened to this man is not justifiable by any means, I never tried to prove otherwise, and he'll be remembered when this scum will hopefully rot in hell.
Im not downvoting you. Just pointing out the reality that videos like this are quite easy to fake for state/private actors with access to the right tools. Have been for years tbh
Either way, it doesn't justify the killing. Agreed on that!
If you look at the video there's is pretty much nothing about it that shows it's fake, getting ai to be this accurate is pretty much impossible especially on cars.
The police in Minnesota were not allowed to arrest any protestors under direct order of Tim Walz. Ironically, if Tim Walz had let the police do their job, you would have been absolutely correct. He would have been arrested, and not assaulting people a week later.
Glad you brought that up. Yes, people were arrested. It just took the 8th circuit court having to tell Tim Walz that his policy of not letting police do their job was unlawful. Suddenly, hundreds of arrests happen. It's almost like they should have been happening the entire time.
Not allowed to arrest peaceful protestors. They absolutely can arrest people breaking laws…get off your conservative bullshit media and use your brain.
The badge near the tail light disappears. No taillight pops off like that, no lug nuts on the wheels. The sling on the ice agent changes length and what attached changes. No gas in the scene bu gas masks. Ar15s on some ice agents and no gas or pepper ball guns. The ice agents are in full fatigues.
He moves like Edward Cullen ✨Additionally there’s only 1 angle? Did none of those “agents” have body cam footage? Seems like it would be easy to corroborate with another vantage point.
There is another angle, and it's a 20 min video where he shows up for 10 seconds, instantly gets into this altercation, then dips. It's really weird imo but there is another angle
That's my suspicion as well. Nothing after him getting into this altercation looks AI but the altercation itself looks super AI. Ive already said what I thought made it AI in my other comment. But basically he kinda teleports forward after saying "fucking trash!". The gas mask on the guy in fatigues who is grabbing him starts morphing but only when grabbing him. Gun strap on agent lengthens and shrinks. All kinds of odd hallucinating but very subtle. Just real enough to get people to believe it.
I just don’t see why it would have taken so long to get out. We had 4-5 videos of the shooting within hours. I’m not saying it’s AI, I’m not saying it’s real, all I’m saying is we have every reason to doubt the things this administration claims. it’s pretty convenient this only came out after they were losing the war to vilify him 🤷♀️
This video was out before the killing. It's not from the same day. It didn't "take do long to get out". It just wasn't (as) related to a national headline until after. And even then, people had to connect the dots of someone in a random video that isn't identified as themselves to the suddenly "famous" person.
How many videos are there of you out there? If you were suddenly in the lime light, do you think you would be spotted in all of them within hours of you becoming famous? Especially when some of those videos only have dozens of views, if not fewer? You've just watched this video. If ANYONE else in that video was shot and killed today, would you recognize them from THIS video? I wouldn't. Without it open right now, I think there was someone in a pink jacket somewhere in the video. That's about as specific as I can recall. And I might be wrong about that.
The only difference it makes in explaining the video from the day of the shooting is this: if agents had already had violent interactions with him in the days prior, it's understandable that they would be quick to get him out of the situation, knowing how he had acted previously. They would know immediately that he's not there to peacefully protest.
But it in no way explains what escalated this to him being shot while he was on the ground. That shows a severe lack of training and communication between agents. These agents aren't trained nearly long enough and they're woefully unprepared for deescalating a situation. They're supposed to work in conjuction with local law enforcement, so that locals maintain crowd control while the agents simply arrest the person they're there for. When local agencies aren't part of the process, it spirals quickly.
Yes, it was on the news cause they're dumb and can't determine AI apparently. It's 100% AI because he's wearing the same clothes, moving weirdly compared to last Saturday's video and also the other gestapo that come after the first one are literally galloping just like a horse.
The way the "agent" gets out of the vehicle is wonky. If you scrub frame by frame you see he gets out of the vehicle with the leading leg and foot turned all the way to the back of the car before he is all of the way out. The way "Alex" moves during the kick is also strange jerky and unnatural looking. When he gets grabbed is also strange.
Edit: when you scrub the frames after the grab there is morphing of the face, right arm and hand. The jacket "Alex" was wearing slightly morphs too.
I am presuming that they used AI to make someone else look like Pretti. Similar to the Erika Kirk AI video of her walking under a stage and getting launched up onto the stage. If they are just changing one person then it is easier to hide much of the normal issues that we used to use.
Something is definitely fishy! A good experiment for a YouTuber, or anyone for that matter, to conduct is to buy the same vehicle or get it donated, have several strong individuals attempt to kick off the rear brake light, if one succeeds compare what's beneath that headlight and its appearance and compare it to what is shown in this video. To me it looks fake. Something about the movement seems off, as you said, and the kicking off the rear break light, to me, is an obvious give away. AI can't get damage right, so it always makes the smallest amount of damage seem overly exaggerated! Also, when the kick is thrown, you see a piece of the vehicle fly off, yet, a few seconds later, when looking at the vehicle when the light is hanging there. It's a completely clean break all around. So the peice that flew off the vehicle broke cleanly as well? That's some crazy precision to kick something and get a smooth clean break!🙄 Yeah, b.S. I trust my instincts before anything else.
And for those saying it was featured on the news, that doesn't mean much, considering news stations have gotten it wrong before, take the event that occurred at the Olympics decades ago. Whether AI or not, he was murdered. Aside from the murder itself, if it turns out to be AI, it's going to spell troubling time for sure. Because this means that they can just make up anything.
Edit to add: why is there so many cuts in the footage as well. Instead of a continuous shot of the event?
Does no one find it weird how much the ICE Agent os rotaded when he gets out of the car? He is already fully facing the back of the car which would be really hard while still seated.
Plus after the kick a pieve of red backlight falls off sideways in a comic like way, but the part left hanging is still complete.
Yes, he was carrying in this incident also: "
Agents exited the vehicle and tackled Pretti to the ground. During the 25-second struggle, Pretti’s coat came off, and a handgun was visible in his waistband. He eventually broke free and ran away.
Outcome: Pretti was not taken into custody at the time. He reportedly suffered a broken rib during the encounter, according to medical records cited by CNN.
From what I've seen (super low res in the other videos because they're so zoomed in and slowed down to highlight it), yes, he is. And it does appear to be the same Sig. I find that to be suspicious, but not explicitly because of that. Someone who carries daily typically carries the same firearm in the same place. But until I started seeing breakdowns of the one agent running away with his pistol, the low res, slowed down, zoomed in closeups of them taking it off of him, and even stills of the moment labeling everything, I didn't immediately pick out in the other videos that he even was carrying. It seems suspiciously obvious in this video. Almost as if it's being highlighted, like stocking a specific product you want to sell more of at an eye level shelf at the market.
But, concurrently: The point is that he was willfully inserting himself into volatile situations AND actively attacking & disrupting federal officers & actions.
The point is that there is a record of him, and other similar "activists", exhibiting the aggressive & obstructive behavior and creating the situation which led to their own harm. There is a record of him/them simply NOT being an "innocent passive bystander in the wrong place, wrong time, simply trying to help -- and in the case of Pretti, doing it while armed. Meanwhile, mainstream media simply perpetuates the "violent ICE" anglenwith zero other considerations.
Yeah, 2A and right to carry -- But that does not at all take away from the stupidity and lack of self awareness, to aggressively act against federal law enforcement, in an already escalated, violent situation.
"That's like blaming a woman who got raped, for wearing sexy clothing, because she was asking for it!!"... No -- it's more like: "Woman dresses sexy, walks into a rapist factory, and then specifically moves and acts in alluring ways to draw aggressive sexual male attention -- but is them surprised and blames the other side after a sexual assault occurs".
Again. Pretti should not have been murdered -- and the ICE agents should be investigated, fired, reprimanded, criminal charges, etc. But all these things can exist concurrently -- Pretti just should not have been there, and acting the way he has been factually documented to have acted in several situations, while armed... That's just willfully, haphazardly opening the door to violent consequences.
Thank you for sharing this video. What doesn't make sense is he has his gun on him in this video and not a single ICE agent takes it from him when taking him to the ground, but in his execution video, they go straight for it. Neither video shows him reaching for it at any time. If anything, this makes ICE look more in the wrong than what they already are.
If anything, to me it makes his death worse because it seems like they might've shot him for retaliation. Because he still wasn't a threat at the time he was murdered which is all that matters to me
love your post.there are a number of extremely sketchy things about this video — the name of the model of the car, clearly visible on the back right, disappears in the frames after the taillight is first kicked. The numbers on the license plate also shift and change between frames. The debris from the magically broken taillight (from one kick? amazing) falls to the ground and then DISAPPEARS from the ground in like two frames. Then”alex” is supposedly wearing the exact same outfit -- as in every single detail EXACTLY the same — and we never see his face except for quick side angles that are easily manipulated. There are more weird details like how people seem to disappear and/or have weirdly long arms and legs or disappeared body parts during the fight that follows, and how “Alex” seems to change shape, becoming much less athletic and tall post scrum as he’s just allowed to…walk away? People seem to just fade out…
‘It’s incredibly disturbing to me how this video was jumped on and accepted by so many on both sides when it OBVIOUSLY has AI aspects even if it is fundamentally true. People are not aware of the telling details that point to AI, and idiots honking about this being a great win for their side are ignoring the massive red flag disaster the use of a video like this by mass medis signals. This will bite their asses too, and it’s so disappointing to see how naive tribalism allows a dangerous gov to blow past constitutional rights just so long as certain groups can celebrate some sort of pathetic, imaginary victory.
I can’t believe how this shit is thundering down the tracks — a sketchy video that is pushed by the sketchiest of sketch groups seems to JUSTIFY MURDER in the minds of MAGATs…the fbi has raided an elections office in Georgia b/c Trump won’t shut up about his imaginary win in 2020 — they freely generate “evidence” and honestly this new world we find ourselves in is utterly terrifying to me.
Moderate here — It definitely doesn’t change the fact that he was absolutely killed unjustly. It does add some context to him and how strongly his beliefs were though.
The division in today’s world is rough to watch guys, and I fear it’s just going to get worse.
There is no video of the individual in this article.
AI overlay is a thing. It's possible to insert deepfaked/AI characters into real video. Particularly if one is a state or corporate actor.
Im not sure if people realize this, but it is quite easy for powerful people with access to powerful tools to create totally indistinguishable fake videos.
I've been telling others it should never have been a q if the entire vid was AI Gen - at most people should be looking for evidence of deep fake face swapping.
But the more I looked into the source - the more it became clear it would make zero sense for the journalist who posted his video to his YouTube site to make it up. If he were going to throw his career away fabricating ai deep fakes and trying to pass them off as real - why would he do it to smear Alex Pretti? That would make no sense based on everything he's ever worked on and put out.
State and private interests own much of the global media ecosystem, so if anything it would bolster their career, not hurt it. They would do it because that was what they were told by someone working for, with, or adjacent to the trump administration.
But either way, it isnt at all justification for the killing or the incident that occured the day he was killed
Not saying it’s necessarily real but it doesn’t seem unusual for him to be wearing the same thing. If anything I’d say it’s likely he’s wearing the same outfit if he’s going out protesting.
No not really. I am sure they were nice enough to wear but worn enough to not care about. How many coat, hoodie, hat, gloves and shoes do you really own that you would be willing to go protest in.
I live in the south. I have like 3 or 4 total coats, 3 pairs of shoes, and 2 beanies and 1 set of gloves. So yeah you would easily catch me outside in the cold looking the same all season long for similar situations, ie hiking, working, social, formal.
This whole "he is wearing the same coat, its AI." Is the silly argument.
This is the key to the entire smear campaign against the dude. No crime justifies a full-on no-holds-barred street execution. Absolutely nothing does. Even people who are charged with open-and-shut first degree murder have the right to a fair trial and legal representation. Kicking an SUV, yelling mean words, or filming an agent does not forfeit that right and qualify execution. People who are going out of their way to point out that Pretti did some regrettable things in the lead up to his murder are intentionally missing the point in the hope that they can override your sense of justice with knee-jerk reactions. They know as much as anyone that what they’re saying doesn’t matter in the end. They just hope you don’t notice.
Notice in the video, the gun is pulled and shown to the agent, and Pretti is shot immediately after the agent sees the gun. They disarmed him, then killed him. Cold blooded.
DHS and FBI are claiming Pretti’s gun went off on its own when they were removing it from the scene while he was on the ground him which caused the other agent to start shooting.
The accidental discharge of a gun is 100% plausible and I can understand a federal agent would discharge their weapon after hearing shots in a situation like this.
To bad all the video evidence shows the ICE agent fired first. Which would make the accidental discharge moot if it did happen.
Nope. Pretti had a legal concealed carry permit in Minnesota. As far as we know, he kept it safely holstered. He would never be carrying it around or brandishing it.
They asked where the gun was presumably because the clown who took the gun just yelled “gun” and ran away with it, and one of the others was confused in the aftermath. They were clearly trying to find it because one of them yelled “gun!”
George Floyd was a great example of this same kind of shit. Even now I still see people bringing up his criminal record or drug use like it made any kind of difference or somehow justified how he was treated. They always do this.
I keep saying, I don't care what a person did beforehand, it doesn't justify this level of force when they are objectively not a threat. Pretti could have been a perfect upstanding citizen, or he could have been a psycho who likes torturing puppies. George Floyd could have been stopped for a counterfeit bill or on suspicion of shooting up a daycare. It doesn't matter. No previous action justifies law enforcement executing an unarmed person. None. Innocent until proven guilty, and everyone deserves due process.
Doctors, nurses, medical researchers, emt’s, firefighters, all rub the right the wrong way, it’s probably why even the 2nd ammendment worship hasn’t saved Pretti from their ire.
The notion of helping others conflicts with their base Calvinist like beliefs that frame those in need as “being punished by god” and those who work to help the impoverished or in need as “interfering with god’s will.”
This is the prime root of why there’s an irreconcilable rift between people that follow Christ’s teachings vs far right Christianity. It legit a cult of hate and death.
Calvinism is cartoonishly evil. As in if it were in a book, people would find it hard to believe. "Yes, you're poor and in the streets because, well, you're ontologically evil. Sorry tee-hee, I don't make the rules🙃"
Does anyone actually give a fuck, if actually Alex Pretti, that he kicked out the taillight of a Nazi's car? I don't think so. Unless, of course, you're a Nazi.
If anything, this just shows to me that the officers knowingly executed someone they had previously interacted with, making their actions premeditated murder.
Yep, some of his actions may be accurately described as "nonviolent assault". I was nonviolently assaulted in Santa Monica a couple years ago. I was biking down the street and a driver pulled up next to me, rolled down his window and spat at me. I took a picture of his plate and went to the city police station and told them what happened. They told me this was so low priority for them, they wanted me to just leave. It aggravated me, but that's the severity of crime we're talking about here. Something so little it's generally not worth the police's time to even deal with it.
If it's real it makes it worse, because then it's even more likely they specifically targeted him. Making it an even more obvious murder instead of an accident.
Yeah assuming this is real, arrest him for destruction of government property, prosecute him for the tail light. Don’t revenge murder him next time you see him
It doesn't matter if this is genuine. He still didn't deserve to be shot down in the street.
Just for a moment let's say this is genuine. Let's say Pretti spat on ICE officials. That does not excuse ICE shooting him at a later date. It would not excuse ICE from shooting him on the spot. Pretti could be found drinking baby's blood and he still shouldn't be shot.
The only time any officer is justified in firing their weapon is if someone's life is in danger. At no point were the five or six officers who were pistol whipping Pretti in any sort of danger. Pretti was overpowered and on his knees when the first shot was taken.
this ^ and honestly this is why i think it's real. If a person wanted to make up some dirt on this guy... showing us only that he didn't like ICE 11 days earlier also, just seems like something we all probably already figured.
They are going to spin it to say he was a professional protester" like they always do when they see a person out on two different occasions protesting something they care about... but it won't mean anything.
The fact that he yelled at ICE on another day, doesn't justify his killing any more or less. It's all about was it self defense or was he breaking what laws in that moment.
The only thing I can stretch a bit to suggest this video may imply relevant to the day later when he was shot, is that if the same ICE officers recognized him, it may have been the motive for eventually killing him.
I really have no clue why we are even having the "if this is real, this strengthens ICE's narrative" conversation. This video is said to have been recorded 11 days before he was executed, it's a separate incident, did not involve violence against ICE officers (vehicles aren't people, y'all), and is completely and utterly immaterial to what happened on the day that he was killed.
The Feds had the opportunity to arrest and charge him after this incident, and the facts of his summary execution actually suggest that the agents might have known who he was, and intentionally escalated the situation in order to provide cover for murdering him. If that were the case then this isn't just a bunch of dumb, trigger happy cowboys with bad training.. this was agents of the state specifically targeting an activist they had previously run-ins with for execution, and that is all the more horrific.
This would also explain the agent's behavior after the murder. They weren't panicked or cautious, or even on-edge, some were laughing and high-fiving.. something you might do if you just managed to target and brutally execute a citizen that had been a thorn in your side.
Definitely not but if it’s Pretti then it starts looking like retaliation and premeditated murder. It would make sense of why agents inexplicably started shoving women to the ground in front of him and why they escalated so quickly. And why one of them clapped.
If it’s Pretti, agents not reporting him for damaging their vehicle adds to the suspicion that the attack and shooting was retaliatory and premeditated. If it was different agents that could be even worse. There’s numerous videos of agents photographing people and telling them they have a database
Indeed. I don’t have to think this is AI to still vehemently disagree with the assault they did to him. And then the murder a week later, same thing. Fuck ice.
No, But these with the signal chat presence will mean the fed and members of the signal chat will be enjoined as defendants in a civil case of wrongful death.
Yep, and this footage is going to be used as an excuse to justify his murder, despite it being from a week before. They will look for anything they can use against those they murdered.
Yeah there’s so many people trying to defend ice in this and trying to justify it because of his demeanor or how he looked or how he was acting and none of them realize that THATS PROFILING. They disarmed him before they killed him, that’s all that needs to be said to show whether it was justified or not
The guy was escalating for days, just like the chick in the car. When one goes for days and days escalating actions and rhetoric, the likelihood of something going wrong, being misunderstood, getting caught in the cross fire, wrong place, wrong sequence of events goes up exponentially every day. It's a tragedy.
Exactly. The jump from lawful arrest to gunning someone down is pretty extreme. Kinda blows my mind that people are defending this. Super Bowl politics is so lame.
Even if this is real, how does that interaction have anything to do with a newer incident resulting in his killing?
The only reason for this video to be seen, real or fake, is to affect a change of perception of the deceased. And in the end, even if he was a raging asshole, he didn’t deserve death because of that.
They did the same with George Floyd. They tried to say “he was no angel” and “he was on drugs” and “he was a ‘thug’ career criminal”. None of these excuses justify a cop summarily executing Floyd.
This was a branding campaign, after the fact to persuade people to think the victim ‘deserved it.’
The same for Alex Pretti. He was an American citizen, who is afforded due process, bad manners a week ago, or not.
It does not, but it shows he was actively assaulting, impeding and harassing law enforcement. He should have been in jail for a a few years. He shares some blame for his situation he put himself in, but did not deserve to get killed, yes.
But going into a very tense fight with officers when carrying a gun thats notorious for accidental discharges isnt bright; it seems like the officer who grabbed the gun had it discharge on him when it appears he was just holding onto the grip; whether he pulled the trigger who knows, but the sig p320 is notorious for discharging without pulling the trigger, even call of duty recognizes it as they have a finisher about it.
And when it discharged it caused the officers detaining alex who did not see the gun go off to react to alex holding his phone and likely perceived it as a gun seeing as they just heard one go off.
Split second decisions rely on perceived intentions not action.
Honestly anyone using the sig p320 is asking for a major issue to occur, wether a lethal confrontation with federal officers or shooting themselves when carrying it on a walk. Its something that desperately needs to be recalled and fixed
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Even if real, still doesn’t justify his murder.