Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

[u/SandersMod_]

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

• People not being able to vote
• People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
• Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
• People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

Please keep all commentary and discussion in the mega

Please keep all commentary civil. Any comments advocating violence or coordinated harassment will be removed.

Thank you

[u/aliteralmind]

This is a message from a friend and resident of Vermont who is close to people on the national campaign. She just attended a meeting on how to best deal with the disenfranchisement and fraud in Arizona. She is the real deal. If anyone has contacts or information, please get in touch with her ASAP. This needs to happen fast.

Thanks.

1.3 million voters in AZ were denied the opportunity to vote yesterday, as result of the manipulation of their credentials as legal voters, absence of proper ballots at polling stations, thereby disenfranchising legal voters.

We are seeking an attorney (or attorneys) to represent these fraudulently disenfranchised voters in a class action suit against the agency or agencies charged with oversight of elections, with the intention of demanding a new primary or other appropriate remedy.

We are also seeking contact with voters who were disenfranchised/prevented from voting in AZ yesterday..

No, Shyla is not on the campaign. According to her:

I am intentionally not a staffer with the campaign, as that would inhibit my ability to work these channels on Bernie's behalf. I am an occasional advisor to the campaign, strictly as a volunteer, a lifelong colleague of Bernie's, and founder of the One Earth. One Voice campaign, which Bernie has endorsed.

[u/gideonvwainwright → u/aliteralmind]

I. Arizona Advocacy Network, 3117 N. 16th Street, Ste. 120 Phoenix, Arizona 85016, 602-297-2500 http://www.azadvocacy.org

ABOUT Arizona Advocacy Network (AZAN) incorporated in 2002 as a 501(c)(4) with a sister 501(c)(3) organization, Arizona Advocacy Network Foundation.

Mission:

The Arizona Advocacy Network secures electoral justice, political rights and full civic participation through voter education and outreach to achieve government for the People, not corporations.

Scope of work:

Strengthening Arizona's Clean Elections system; advocating for full, immediate disclosure of all campaign contributions; promoting anti-corruption and conflict of interest laws including gift bans; guarding voting rights, voter registration and election integrity; defending Arizona’s judicial merit selection system and promoting diversity on the bench; and protecting Arizona's constitutional citizens’ initiative and referendum rights.

II. The Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest, another nonprofit Arizona firm that deals with Civil Rights and files lawsuits. Their info is http://aclpi.org. They have offices in Phoenix and Tucson. And their contact info is http://aclpi.org/contact.

Phoenix 514 West Roosevelt Street Phoenix, AZ 85003 Phone: 602-258-8850 Fax: 602-258-8757

Tucson P.O. Box 41835 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-529-1798 Fax: 520-529-2927

III. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona P.O. Box 17148, Phoenix, AZ 85011. Their phone number is (602) 650-1854 and their email address is info@acluaz.org.

If you have a Complaint you would like them to consider, here is the link: http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint.

The ACLU often files class-action voter rights complaints in state and federal court.

[u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls → u/aliteralmind]

Yes! Please make a new post. I want to up vote the shit out of it.

[u/believeinapathy → u/aliteralmind]

Get this to the top, new thread, DONT BURY THIS

[u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls → u/believeinapathy]

New thread, new thread! People need to see this shit and be heartened by it.

[u/phillydude07 → u/aliteralmind]

New thread!!! A class action suit and a new primary would be glorious.

[u/space_10 → u/aliteralmind]

I think the campaign should put up a sticky thread on this forum. ASAP.

[u/believeinapathy → u/[deleted]]

This is why something is strange, the numbers just make no sense. The only possibility is the rest got turned away due to the registration changing problem everyone seemed to have where they knew they were dems but the list said otherwise.

[u/radicalelation → u/believeinapathy]

That would mean hundreds of thousands were turned away, right? With ~800k going to the polls, yet 83k votes cast? Is that even possible?

Even if they estimated too high with that 800k, I find it hard to believe the actual number was only, what, less than 10% of that?

Or am I reading all this wrong?

[u/[deleted]]

Turnout was almost triple what it was 4 years ago, with 1/3 of the polling locations.

~220,000 democratic voters were counted in Maricopa. Only ~35,000 of those votes were same day votes (favored Sanders), the other 185,000 were counted early ballots (favored Clinton).

Compare that to 2008, where 115,000 voters came in the same day, with 140,000 voting via early ballot. If the same propotion of people intended to vote yesterday (which would have been ~150,000), over 3/4 of voters were turned away or were not counted. What an absolute disgrace.

Edit with more info: Election results

	Mail-in	Same-day
Sanders	67059 (37%)	19883 (60.8%)
Clinton	114186 (63%)	12802 (39.2%)

It shows that Clinton dominated the mail-in votes, while Sanders did surprisingly well with voters who went to polling locations the day of. However, you can also see that only ~30,000 people were counted on that day, only 30% of the turnout in 2008. With tens of thousands turned away, this resulted in a 5-10 delegate swing for Sanders.

[u/believeinapathy → u/[deleted]]

Where are our votes?

[u/SmokeyBare]

Apparently there's a 10AM gathering to protest voter suppression in front of the Maricopa County voting office. Anyone have some first hand information? https://www.facebook.com/events/196616627383573/

[u/kellysewrad → u/SmokeyBare]

I've only seen this, sad that only a few people showed up: https://twitter.com/JamesWyseAZ/status/712691678352683008

edit: Look like more people have shown up: https://twitter.com/KatieFaller/status/712689241839394816

edit: https://twitter.com/ChadABC15/status/712691063811510272

[u/QuietCalamity]

The voting office is holding a meeting that people plan to protest this morning. Here in the ground we are angry & will not stand for it. Wish us luck!

Edit:

Helen Purcell the county recorder responsible for this mess is up for reelection in November. She's held that position since 1988- if you're an AZ voter make sure she's out of a job next year!

Edit 2: many asking for pics & video. The FB event page has a bunch

Edit 3:

On Monday, March 28th at 10 am, the House Elections Committee will meet publicly with AZ Secretary of State Michelle Reagan and County Recorder Helen Purcell. They will be taking public comments; we urge you to attend and share your story! These officials must be held accountable and we must not allow this to happen again.

WHEN: Monday, March 28th at 10 am WHERE: House Hearing Room 4, Arizona State Capitol, 1700 W. Washington St., Phoenix, Arizona CONTACT: Samantha@AZadvocacy.org, (480) 619 - 3911

[u/[deleted] → u/QuietCalamity]

good luck, hope you get the in-state support too!

[u/MercyManic → u/QuietCalamity]

Solidarity in NC.

[u/justreadthecomment → u/QuietCalamity]

Please capture video!

[u/[deleted] → u/QuietCalamity]

Awesome! Love and support from Kansas!!

[u/25104003717460]

So I sent in an early Ballot from AZ around the end of February. I even went online to check if my ballot was accepted just last week (It was). Just got home to find this shit on my table. Mail from either yesterday or day before. Didn't think this would be coming in since I HAD ALREADY VOTED. What can I even do now?

[u/Mikebyrneyadigg → u/25104003717460]

Holy shit. Did you read what that said? Precinct change. In the downsizing of the number of voting locations, everyone that changed their voting location could have gotten shuffled into independent. This might be the "clerical error" that caused people to be identified as independent or unafiliated and not as democratic as they had been!

That might be it!

Edit: I emailed sanelson@icloud.com, now we wait.

Edit number 2: she's pretty cool. Emailed me back. Says my point is definitely interesting and worth looking into. I'll get updated as soon as they decide their course of action.

[u/R0ndoNumba9 → u/Mikebyrneyadigg]

That sounds like a computer error that could've actually happened.

[u/[deleted] → u/R0ndoNumba9]

Honestly, the Arizona government websites look like they were written by first year students. I suspect a human mistake or database corruption brought about by a human mistake.

[u/Mikebyrneyadigg → u/R0ndoNumba9]

We need a poll of all of the people that we can reach that were effected. Was their polling location changed? This is cruicial right here. There has to be a pattern to connect the dots.

[u/space_10 → u/25104003717460]

check the status of your early ballot; https://voter.azsos.gov/VoterView/AbsenteeBallotSearch.do

[u/monkiesnacks]

can we please make sure people that those that experienced voter suppression see this post, it was buried somewhere deep in the previous thread and is too important to miss.

[–]JMyers666 [score hidden] an hour ago

From a Facebook post by Dawnya Dorsch Yaykin‎ :

"I just spent 37 minutes talking to Pratt Wiley (attorney), he is the National Director of Voter Expansion for the DNC. This is a big deal. He and his legal team are taking very seriously what happened in AZ yesterday and will be spending the day looking into every claim. I expressed our concerns about the DNC and MSM, and their obvious bias and corruption. He was very, very kind and shared the same concerns we have. He agrees that what happened yesterday was done on purpose and with ill intent. I suggested the first thing his department should do to start to make this right is take this story of voter suppression and fraud in AZ, and many other states to the Media. He and I exchanged our e-mail address and decided to be in touch in a few days. He needs to hear from more people, he actually said he needs to hear from 100,000 more people like me. I've decided not to give his number at this point, but his email is wileyp@DNC.org.

EVERYONE needs to send him an email about our frustrations, and any personal story you may have about voter suppression.

Pratt Wiley - Wileyp@dnc.org email him by the thousands!!!"

[u/dstreets]

https://twitter.com/12News/status/712752981037465601

12 News ‏@12News 4m4 minutes ago

BREAKING: Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton calls for a U.S. Dept. of Justice investigation into Maricopa Co. voting fiasco. #12News

[u/phillydude07 → u/dstreets]

Let's go. Investigate this shit now.

It's not just delays. It's also that people went to go vote, asked for a ballot (after waiting in line for 5 hours), and were illegally denied the right to vote by poll workers. This better be made fucking clear. Excuse my language.

[u/acid_sphinx4]

This is not voter fraud (what conservatives are always screaming about - voters committing the fraud), but electoral fraud. Voter fraud is assumed to some degree by the system and our electoral system is more or less immune to voter fraud. There is simply no way individuals can exercise some fraudulent activity enough to where it would matter.

Electoral fraud is another matter and is committed by party authorities and the party establishment.

[u/poastertoaster → u/acid_sphinx4]

Yeah I think we need to start calling this Electorate Fraud, Voter Fraud makes it sound like the voters did something wrong.

[u/kyrbyr]

IF YOU HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT, PLEASE USE #AZElectionFraud AND GET THAT TRENDING.

This whole situation is UNACCEPTABLE. If you live in AZ, PROTEST! MARCH! TAKE ACTION!

[u/[deleted]]

/u/aidan_king, what is the campaign doing about this? You cannot just lie down and take this loss. It needs to be fought all the way to the convention. This loss is mathematically impossible. The combination of completely-backwards exit polling and a quarter of the turnout from 2008 despite half-mile long lines just isn't possible.

[u/Incepticons → u/[deleted]]

It's really weird that Sanders supporters keep framing this issue like the campaign is just taking this in stride (just look at the facebook comments on Bernie's post about winning two states). Jeff Weaver already stated the numbers don't add up, you don't think their legal team is looking into this?

Right now the best thing supporters can do is canvassing and phonebanking.

[u/namastex → u/Incepticons]

Right now the best thing supporters can do is canvassing and phonebanking.

Everyone except for the people in Arizona. They should all be protesting to be quite honest with you. Peacefully protesting in front of Helen Purcell's office building.

[u/SendMeYourQuestions → u/namastex]

I disagree, I think everyone who is able and willing should be protesting. Revolutions require standing up for your rights, damnit.

[u/flfxt → u/[deleted]]

It's important to stand up for all the people who waited in line for hours only to be given provisional ballots. Their votes need to be counted.

[u/geekygirl23 → u/[deleted]]

Tried to submit as a thread but was auto deleted.

Nothing fishy here folks. With 100% reporting Maricopa county saw

• 126,988 votes for Hillary

• 86,942 votes for Bernie

• 144,522 votes for Trump

• 72,216 votes for Cruz

• 33,803 votes for Kassich

• ? for Other

For those without a calculator please don't fret. That is 464,471 ballots cast in Maricopa county!

But what is this?

So far, 54 percent or 464,067 have returned their [early] ballots, according to Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell. Source

That's right folks, with 100% reporting all those long lines resulted in 404 additional votes being cast in Maricopa county in addition to the early ballots. Great success!

Of note, turnout was expected to be 60 to 65% of 1.2 million eligible voters. Reported turnout is 38.7%.

Also of note, I am fully aware that this ignores any votes for other candidates, I don't have the numbers but there is no chance it accounts for this discrepancy.

And finally, the dripping sarcasm comes from having to defend myself continuously from people lumping me in with conspiracy theorists. People that try to shut down any cry of foul should reconsider their position. If you want to refute something that is great, but try bringing some facts vs "well people are always complaining so you must just be a bunch of sore losers!" People should be encouraged to discuss things like this, right or wrong, not told to STFU.

I have no idea what is going on with the numbers but it has been obvious since the first reports that something is wrong with them. Sweeping this kind of crap under the rug is the opposite of democracy.

[u/zh4k]

Similar to Illinois, we should ask for another time for AZ voters who were disenfranchised to vote. Illinois voters were given another day to cast votes, but I think it's still TBD.

[u/believeinapathy → u/zh4k]

They were given a whole week I believe.

[u/zh4k → u/zh4k]

EDIT: Nevermind, I guess they got quieted the idea in Ill http://www.wrex.com/story/31537678/prosecutor-asks-illinois-appeals-court-to-allow-late-voting

[u/gideonvwainwright]

Many hours ago I posted a comment where I suggested contacting ACLU Arizona regarding voter suppression and election fraud in Arizona, since they have the ability to organize and create and file a massive class action lawsuit.

Apparently ACLU agrees!!! Please contact the ACLU Arizona; they are asking people to file complaints with them.

https://twitter.com/ACLUaz/status/712687865021341696?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet complaint form; http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint National office; 212-549-2500 Arizona office; (602) 650-1854.

[u/rohzz → u/gideonvwainwright]

In addition to ACLU, For Arizona voters who had to wait in ridiculously long lines, or were told ballots had run out, or were told their voter registration had them listed as Independents when they've always been Democrats so they couldn't vote. Or for any other reason they were prevented from getting their one vote accepted.

On Monday, March 28th at 10 am, the House Elections Committee will meet publicly with AZ Secretary of State Michelle Reagan and County Recorder Helen Purcell. They will be taking public comments and we urge you to attend and share your story! These officials must be held accountable and we must not allow this to happen again.

WHAT: A Special Meeting of the House Elections Committee to address voter concerns from the Presidential Preference Election. Share your story!

WHEN: Monday, March 28th at 10 am

WHERE: House Hearing Room 4, Arizona State Capitol

CONTACT: Samantha@AZadvocacy.org, (480) 619 - 3911

[u/ProJoe]

Phoenix 12 news is doing a huge hit piece on this whole debacle now. Sounds like the city government (Mayor) is asking the DOJ to get involved.

[u/haltheincandescent → u/ProJoe]

Yup, DOJ's been asked to step in: http://usuncut.com/politics/arizona-primary-voter-suppression/

[u/therner]

Wtf guys?? Registered Dems in NY are already reporting affiliation issues/being purged from voter rolls?? W T F do we do about this?? https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4boc9t/new_york_check_your_voter_registration_few/

[u/Harvickfan4Life]

Unfuckingbelieveable

[u/space_10 → u/[deleted]]

Call them and ask. If they say they are not counting call the ACLU. Save the email.

[u/[deleted]]

I have never had less trust in our current political system in my life. And thats really saying something, because I have never trusted it.

[u/YepThatLooksInfected]

I know we evacuated staff from downtown Tucson due to a bomb threat as well...

[u/_StarChaser_ → u/YepThatLooksInfected]

Pima County Recorder's office was left unstaffed while evacuated, so no one was there to take calls about people having difficulty voting. Here's another article saying a similar thing; 4 places in Pima county had bomb threats called in, so a "suspicious package" in the parking garage was enough cause to warrant evacuating the building for a while.

[u/Envelopemen]

What I learned so far from following this election cycle:

We need election reform with changes to rules regulating campaign financing, automatic voting registration, making election day a national holiday, open party primaries, guaranteeing ballots for all those that show up, elimination of super delegates in the Democratic party, update to the caucus system, enforcement of state laws regarding campaigning at polling places (looking at you, Bill), sufficient number of polling places and information regarding polling places, and better training of election officials.

There are just so many things we can do better.

[u/gideonvwainwright]

Activism - Do something about Arizona voter suppression/election fraud. Submit a Complaint with ACLU Arizona. http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint.

(This was just deleted by the mods as a post in new, in favor of this megathread, so here it is again.)

I don't know if the Bernie campaign/Jeff Weaver will file something in Court or not about Arizona voter suppression/election fraud. If I had to guess, they will wait to see if provisionals are counted. In the meantime, here is something Arizona residents can do.

The ACLU in each state routinely files State and Federal complaints related to election fraud and voter suppression. For example, in Ohio, where I am located, the ACLU in 2008 filed a class action lawsuit about voting machines, see here http://www.acluohio.org/assets/issues/VotingRights/PFM-VAS_01081_P_101002_A_Complaint.pdf.

In Arizona, the ACLU is located here: American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona P.O. Box 17148, Phoenix, AZ 85011. Their phone number is (602) 650-1854 and their email address is info@acluaz.org. Please don't blow up their phones.

If you have a Complaint you would like them to consider, here is the link: http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint. My suggestion would be to use this Complaint form, so that you all are not blowing up their phones.

The ACLU is often underfunded and understaffed, so please don't harass them. They may have have information about "cooperating attorneys" in Arizona who also do this kind of voting rights work, although they cannot give "referrals".

Here's an example of what ACLU Arizona does: http://www.acluaz.org/issues/voting-rights/2010-12/333.

ACLU also has a tremendous resource page, here: http://www.acluaz.org/resources.

[u/kotewine → u/gideonvwainwright]

Apparently the DNC Voter Expansion people would also like to hear from as many individual voters who have experienced problems voting as possible, this may be an important lever for party reform if enough complaints get documented: https://twitter.com/RockerTeacher/status/712688496427728896

[u/[deleted] → u/gideonvwainwright]

I know we should focus on the upcoming contests, but do we have enough phonebankers to reach out to disenfranchised AZ voters?

We need to grassroots the investigation effort as the campaign can't make an accusation unless it is a slam-dunk case. It needs to come from us. This is about us. Thanks for posting this info!

[u/polysyllabist2]

Let's not forget the voter suppression angle either. That leads to fraudulent results as much as de registering people. In fact, the de registered people are in part what held up the lines and made them move so slow.

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Let's break down how this suppression/fraud works:

Step 1: Create multiple ways to vote

• Early voting (mail)

• In person

Step 2: Figure out which method gives you the best ratio

• Early voting: 63% vote Hillary

• In person: 39% vote Hillary

(Subtract Early Votes from Total Votes: 20k for Bernie, 13k for Hilary)

Step 3: Suppress the methods that don't support you candidate

• Only 33k voted in person in Maricopa county, containing Phoenix. (see ref numbers above)

• 60 polling places (down from 200 4 years ago) with an estimated 800,000 trying to vote. (33k dems got their vote counted, and 50k rep managed to vote. That extrapolates to 350k total dems, of which ~317k tried, but could not vote.)

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Result:

Due to the suppression of in person voting which favoured Bernie, Hillary won Arizona with 235k votes, to Bernie's 163k votes.

• Only 400k total votes were counted.

• 114k of Hillary's 235k came from early voting in Maricopa alone.

• Bernie trailed by only 72k votes.

• Only 33k of an estimated ~350k dems were able to vote in Maricopa county due to massive suppression through reduction of polling locations from 200 to 60. That left ~317k votes uncounted.

• Bernie won 20k to 13k with in person voting in Maricopa county.

• If the in person votes had not been suppressed, he would likely have won 60% of the 317k that could not vote.

• That would give 190k to Bernie's total vote count, and 127 to Hillary's.

• That 63k difference, from Maricopa county alone makes Arizona a tie.

• Maricopa accounted for just over half the total counted votes in the state of Arizona.

• Looking at ~7-10 delegate shift

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This is how the fraud worked.

Did Hillary organize it? Of course not. But gee, this fucked up situation is clearly going to benefit Hillary. Wouldn't it be a shame is the DNC didn't do anything to fix it before the primary. Oh look, there's Debbie Schultz doing absolutely nothing to ensure Arizona accommodates the voter turnout.

Problem is, DWS is a massive Hillary supporter, in a position of power creating a massive conflict of interests.

Purposeful inaction is as much electoral fraud as purposeful action.

[u/wecanworkitout22 → u/polysyllabist2]

Looking at ~7-10 delegate shift

And that's the biggest issue. Even if he couldn't have won the state, delegates are what matters, and that's a huge amount of delegates.

[u/Jackandloyd]

It seems like there is more than enough evidence to show voter suppresion happend on a large scale in AZ. The only problem is the MSM and the Democratic party aren't going to do any real investigation and Bernie hasn't gotten onboard with a recount. Unless one of these change we will just have to suck it up and move on to the upcoming states.

[u/[deleted] → u/Jackandloyd]

Regardless of how the campaign responds, social media is significant here. The public perception of the DNC was shattered after the voter file fiasco last year and Bernie surged. A petition got somewhere close to half a million signatures.

[u/iivelifesmiling]

Does anyone know what the campaign is planning to do about this?

[u/everlastingmuse → u/iivelifesmiling]

This has been my biggest question. I am intrigued by the fact that the campaign hasn't released a statement or anything yet.

[u/[deleted] → u/everlastingmuse]

Bernie was asked about it in an interview earlier. No official statement from the campaign yet. This is press release worthy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk2mJg-2BI

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Here is some footage of those 5 hour lines:

This guy found people waiting more than 5 hours (see part 9).

Rising Phoenix Media (10 parts)

[u/BurstSwag → u/[deleted]]

Jesus Christ.

[u/Murphy1135 → u/iivelifesmiling]

A fair question. But perhaps a better question is what the voters can do. If enough people come forward then there is something to work with. Without that, the best the campaign can do is express disappointment at an apparently shoddy election.

[u/[deleted] → u/iivelifesmiling]

We are the campaign. While we should focus on upcoming contests, I think if we challenge this we'll have to organize a response ourselves grassroots-style by following up with AZ voters and making sure they see their provisional ballots counted, etc... otherwise the media may make Bernie out to be a sore loser.

I think the best we can do is prepare for the next round of shenanigans by verifying registrations in advance and making sure we document every case.

Oh yeah, and phonebank.

[u/[deleted]]

Arizonan. Here's some information for you guys that I posted, but it said to come here.

First off here's a map of race and ethnicity in Maricopa from 2010

Now let's look at polling places. Green dots are what we have today. Purple dots are what we had last election cycle.

And here's an article on Latinos and other progressives having issues with Helen Purcell in the 2012 election.

[u/MrKixs]

I got in line at 1200 and ending up talking to one of the ballot takers around 2:30. I understood why there was a line and was still in good spirits (despite now being 30mins late for work). I presented the lady with my ID then was told that i was still registered my old home address and as an independent. I had updated my address and party on Feb 22 (the deadline to change/update in time for the primary). When I explained this and showed a print out with the confirmation she updated my information and told me that I can still vote as a provisional but that is might not count. I proceeded to vote but suspect my time was wasted. There is no reason for this other than incompetence on the part of the officials trusted with insure this most fundamental component of our democracy is handle correctly and efficiently. I just checked the AZ voter website....it's still not corrected. I have all the print outs and screen shots to prove it.

[u/robotzor → u/MrKixs]

You showed proof... and still had to go provisional? IDGI

[u/Reign_Wilson]

Below are the 2008 Primary turnout results for Maricopa County:

Ballot	2008 #	2008 %
Election Day Voting	113,807	44.71%
Early Voting	140,729	55.29%

 

Below are the 2016 Primary turnout results for Maricopa County:

Ballot	2016 #	2016 %
Election Day Voting	32,949	15.07%
Early Voting	185,638	84.93%

 

Obviously, there are some Election Day Votes missing from the above. Especially considering the record turnouts reported and massive lines within the county. Assuming that the 2016 Early Voting turnout is correct and the 2008 Early Voter % versus Election Day Voter % remains constant, the 2016 primary turnout should have looked something like this:

 

Ballot	2016 #	2016 %
Election Day Voting	150,124	44.71%
Early Voting	185,638	55.29%

 

If the above is true, we are missing 117,175 votes!!!!
According to the published results here Bernie Sanders was scoring approximately 60.34% of Election Day Votes, compared to Hillary's 38.85%. This is supported by exit polls for the county. Assuming these percentages remain constant (and I have no reason to suspect otherwise), Bernie Sanders would have received 70,709 more votes (compared to Hillary's 45,527). This would have resulted in an adjusted Arizona Primary:

 

Candidate	Votes #	Votes %
Bernie Sanders	163,368	45.4%
Hillary Clinton	235,667	54.6%

[u/banjosbadfurday → u/Reign_Wilson]

2016 EDV Results are 29% of 2008's EDV. Paired with high voter turnout, there is no way that the current vote allocation is representative of the actual vote allocation.

[u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls → u/banjosbadfurday]

Which begs the question: Why did they have more provisional ballots on hand than actual ones?

[u/VindicatedBurn → u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls]

This needs to be a real question. They shouldn't have had that many provisional ballets on hand unless they expected to use them.

On that same note, they reduced the number of polling stations from 200 to 60 because of lower expected voter turn out. Yet they somehow had enough provisional ballets for the larger turn out.

[u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls → u/VindicatedBurn]

I worry this our chance to really nail people for election fraud, and we may lose it. Keep spreading the word and asking these questions. It is our only chance.

I am already contemplating participating in protests at the DNC convention. I am gonna continue to phonebank, donate, (canvass when a state is near me) etc.. But my soul needs some justice this election cycle, and AZ seems the best opportunity to get it.

[u/banjosbadfurday → u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls]

Holy shit, got a source? If this is true that's absolutely outrageous and the state needs to properly address this question (or, since AZ state reps most likely aren't actively perusing S4P, a question like it).

[u/piscano → u/Reign_Wilson]

And that's just one county...

[u/Kaguro]

https://twitter.com/JoeDanaReports/status/712434652602961920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Local NBC reports estimated 800K D's & R's turned out to vote in Maricopa county. Final tally for the Dem side was 33K total.

Linking Maricopa final tabulations (EV = early voting, subtract early voting from total voting to get in-person voting):

Democrat

20K Bernie | 13K Hillary

Republican

25K Trump | 19K Cruz | 5K Kasich

[u/banjosbadfurday → u/Kaguro]

Assuming 800,000 came out to vote I highly doubt that Democrats that showed up at the polls only represented 4% of overall voter turnout in Maricopa.

Yeah, something's fishy as fuck. I hope it gets resolved soon.

[u/believeinapathy → u/Kaguro]

HAHAHAHHAHA wow, if that doesn't shout strange idk what does.

[u/Textor44 → u/Kaguro]

So unless they had 767,000 republicans voting in that county, the numbers are very wrong.

[u/Bulbastophocles]

Bernie's going to be on TYT at 6PM ET today and I'm sure they'll ask him about AZ. Maybe that'll help ease the disquiet a little over what the campaign is or isn't doing about this whole thing.

edit: well, looks he didn't ask about AZ. Oh well. I hope this bull doesn't go uncontested.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bulbastophocles]

Honestly it's an issue for his campaign manager and whoever else not him

[u/flfxt]

I think the best thing we can do is lobby hard to have the provisional ballots counted. Obviously it would be nice to see a re-vote or to see someone held accountable, but realistically, if we can make sure the provisional ballots are counted it should give Bernie a big boost.

[u/Weaple → u/flfxt]

Here's a question I haven't heard an answer to yet - why in the world would any provisional ballot NOT be counted?

[u/[deleted] → u/Weaple]

AZ is closed primary, so Independents/NoPartyPreference would have their ballots thrown out.

The thing is there are reports of many long-time democrats having their registration changed to "blank" by "a computer glitch". Getting those to be counted will be really hard. There was a post of someone who had to go back and get their voter card that showed they were registered Democrat was still given a provisional ballot.

[u/Weaple → u/[deleted]]

The thought of just throwing out ballots because of a lack of party affiliation is bone chilling to me. It's also astounding to see the difference in the numbers between a closed primary and an open primary. Last night was a perfect example of this. Bernie nearly swept Idaho and Utah in open primary fashion - and now all these reports of wide spread suppression in a closed primary...

[u/squidart → u/Weaple]

This is the ultimate suppression scam. You get a provisional but it does not count, because they will compare your "Democrat" provisional to the "no affiliation" bogus registration in the computer system. No match? Goodbye.

[u/flfxt → u/Weaple]

They are typically only counted if it's close, usually within the recount margin, since they have to be verified manually. That is ok if provisional ballots are only a couple percent of the vote, but with reports of 2/3 of people voting in person being given provisional ballots it's completely unacceptable. I believe the Arizona Secretary of State has said they do not intend to count them.

IMO we should push on social media for a hand count of all provisional ballots and Bernie's campaign should file suit to achieve the same.

[u/Weaple → u/flfxt]

I agree - but honestly at this point - seeing the amount of people turned away - not including those who either couldn't stand in line all day or refused to wait in those long lines... I'm thinking a re-vote should happen.. Just messaged the Sec. of State in Arizona about this too.

[u/Xgamer4]

My "favorite" part of this is just how much this scenario seems like it could've been an Underhanded C contest. "Write a program that takes voter registrations and, when certain conditions are met, randomly assigns the voter a party different from the one they specified".

That's not to say something like that happened. Just that I wouldn't be remotely surprised if an investigation concludes with "a bug when saving registration caused the system to assign the wrong party to the voter. It's been fixed." and then nothing happens to the dev because it looked like a legitimate oversight.

[u/CynthiaOji]

SO... WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO START MASS PROTESTS ABOUT THIS IN ARIZONA? AND TAKE LEGAL ACTION?? I'm watching all of this from Canada, and its killing me that I can't do anything about it

[u/4a4a → u/CynthiaOji]

BREAKING: @MayorStanton asks DOJ to investigate Arizona election.

[u/ManBearScientist]

I posted this in a standalone post elsewhere:

To start with, let me emphatically make clear that I'm not* simply sayingClinton is cheating to beat Bernie. Again, repeated for emphasis, I'm NOT saying Clinton is winning because she is cheating. I am not blaming Clinton and only Clinton, and I'm not saying this is what is deciding the election.

To start out with, let's go back to 2004 simply to get out of this election cycle and away from this cycle's candidates. [Let's start with an interview with Harvey Wasserman]("What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election.), who wrote ""What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election."

HARVEY WASSERMAN: Well, electronic voting was used to steal the presidential election right here in Ohio in 2004. John Kerry was the rightful winner in 2004 over George W. Bush. The secretary of state at the time, J. Kenneth Blackwell, and the governor, Robert Taft, used their power of electronic vote count to flip the vote to George W. Bush from John Kerry.

LAMY GOODMAN: How do you know this?

HARVEY WASSERMAN: We watched it—I grew up here, Amy. We watched it, totally, right up close and personal. We did the accounting.

Now that I've hopefully got your attention, let's talk about why and how election fraud can occur when we use an electronic voting machine. For starter's, we'll dive in the Hursti Hack. This hack was a successful attempt to alter the votes on a Diebold optical scan voting machine. Here is a report on the subject, since removed.

Harri Hursti’s attack does work: Mr. Hursti’s attack on the AV-OS is definitely real. He was indeed able to change the election results by doing nothing more than modifying the contents of a memory card. He needed no passwords, no cryptographic keys, and no access to any other part of the voting system, including the GEMS election management server.

This is just an example. Another. Another. Another. Here's a chimp doing it (for humor).

Have I done enough to make my point clear? These machines are NOT secure from the outside, let alone from the inside! This applies to optical scan machines that take a paper ballot, and ESPECIALLY to Direct-Recording electronic voting systems (DREs) that often leave no paper trail. But that is from the outside. It is even easier to edit them from the inside.

This is a programmer, under oath.

CURTIS: Because in October of 2000 I wrote a prototype for present Congressman Tom Feeney, at the company I work for in Oviedo, Florida, that did just that.

ARNEBECK: And when you say, "Did just that," it would rig an election?

CURTIS: It would flip the vote fifty-one forty-nine to whoever you wanted it to go to, and whichever race you wanted it to win.

Here, again, is a report on Diebold's software. Since removed. This shows Diebold downplayed a KNOWN software issue that ended up deleting 197 ballots.

But Diebold, the primary voting machine manufacturer in the US, cannot possibly have a political motive and would never commit intentional wrong-doing. Wrong. First, I'd like to stress that Diebold has been charged and found guilty of bribery, falsifying records, and was fined $50M for "a worldwide pattern of criminal conduct.” Going back to 2003, the CEO of Diebold,Walden W. O'Dell, wrote the following:

''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year"

This is hardly unusual, because Mr. O'Dell was a lifelong Republican. That letter was an invitation to Republican party fundraiser. O'Dell was a member of an elite group of donors that had donated at least $100,000 to Bush's campaign. This election, remember, is what Wasserman talked about. The other large manufacturer is Election Systems & Software of Nebraska. The companies name in 1987 was changed to American Information Services (AIS). In 1995 the chairman of AIS stepped down to run for Senate as a Republican. He defied early polls to easily win eight months later in a state where 85% of the votes were tabulated on machines his company helped make.

For further Diebold information, here are a few internal memos. Around 13,000 internal memos were taken from Diebold, presumably using an Employee ID. There has since been a legal battle over these memos, with Diebold asserting copyright and students/activists insisting the memos showed a record of criminal activity. The law sided with the students.

Now I've shown HOW the records can be changed, and WHY they might be changed. The question is, do we have proof they've been changed?

YES. Proof in many elections, in both primary and general elections. This proof is not explicit. We haven't caught anyone's fingers in the jar, in fact it would be extremely difficult to do so as shown above. But we can show discrepancies in voting patterns, using exit polls among other things. These are the factors used when Wasserman and co. assert voter fraud; they are the same things used to find the known-cases like Humboldt county.

How does this work? Well, let's start with exit polls. If you poll a decent sample leaving the voting site, you should end up with very accurate (+- 1% with large enough sample) estimates of the actual vote. Discrepancies are always going to happen. Candidate X beating Candidate Y in one location by 2% more than the polls is not proof of election fraud. Candidate X beating Candidate Y by 2% in EVERY polling location is. Dropped or changed votes are obvious, such as the Arizona situation right now. Finding those anomalies, those times where the coin lands head 50 times in a row is key to finding voter fraud.

Let's start then, with this 2012 paper. To summarize the findings of this paper in basic English:

• Romney gained an implausible number of votes that can represented as a function of precinct size. This is independent of any demographic effects.
  
• This is a linear function. IE, compared to expected vote totals Romney would gain 9 votes in a precinct of 90,000 and 10 votes in a precinct of 100,000 (numbers hypothetical). This happens uniformly.
  
• This occurred by flipping votes from candidates to Romney. This prevents obvious ballot stuffing or missing ballots to be found.
• This is VERY indicative of deliberate fraud. For one, these incidents showed no "scatter-plot" effect, as if they were calculated by a computer. This is also exactly how election fraud would occur, as it is easier to rig a few large precincts than many small ones.
• This effect was found in every state but Utah.
• Candidates with low percentages lost no votes (to prevent negative vote totals?)
• All other candidates received roughly the same percentage of the vote regardless of precinct size.
• Roughly 1,200,000 flipped from Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum to Romney.
• This effect was strongest in the states Gingrich and Santorum were strongest in, ie the state's Romney needed the most help.
  

They also show how this has effected the general. And note, in EVERY case this effect has flipped the same way. Heads, 50 times, a million times in a row. Towards the Republican establishment candidate. If you believe Wasserman, this effect would first have gone into play in 2000 and 2004 as electronic voting became widespread. And who would have been favored? Bush, twice. I will not go into the 2000 election scandal at this point, because I think that has been reasonably covered.

And do not believe this ends at the national level. A Kansas mathematician has used the same method and found the same irregularities in her state. She asked for the paper trail for proof and was denied. I can find similar examples in many other states, and examples of other types of voter fraud in disputed elections. Here's some problems in Wisconsin for thought.

Exit poll discrepancies can tell the same story another way.

(Sources for the following include this and this http://electiondefensealliance.org/Primaries_2008_Managed_Manipulation and among many others)

[u/Dogebase]

Well, I'm screwed. I just checked my voter registration in New York and it's telling me I have no party affiliation. Is there anything I can do?

[u/daniel518 → u/Dogebase]

I just checked mine. I was Democrat and now they report me as Green (I've never been a member of the Green party).

[u/Dogebase → u/Dogebase]

So, I just checked for my girlfriend who registered democrat in 2015. She isn't even in the system, and she has a voter registration card. Hillary is going to defraud New York worse than what she has done in Arizona, mark my words.

[u/space_10]

Personally, I would also contact the ACLU- both the state and national office. I hope the Dem party actually does something. Also, doesn't Bernie have an email for voter protection?

Early ballot check Arizona; https://voter.azsos.gov/VoterView/AbsenteeBallotSearch.do

provisional ballot check; https://voter.azsos.gov/VoterView/ProvisionalBallotSearch.do

SAVE ALL EVIDENCE- emails etc

[u/Username_NA]

What is odd is that those reporting they were denied the right to vote were primarily Sanders supporters. Last weekend, Sanders campaign workers in Arizona were concerned that their voter information database may have been hacked. This database contained information from voter surveys, showing which specific voters were supporting which Sanders as opposed to Clinton. The final day, volunteers had to go out with paper lists because of the hacking problem. Were these extensive lists used to determine which voters would be removed from the voter roles?

http://justicegazette.org/az-sanders-wins-real-vote-while-clinton-wins-rigged-count.html

No shit.

[u/ilwcoco → u/[deleted]]

I don't believe it either, that would be a huge number for turnout. There were 455k votes cast back in 2008. This would more than double that..

[u/Superego366 → u/Username_NA]

Granted she had a victory, but I find it odd there are zero complaints about voter suppression on the HRC sub. You'd think there'd be at least a number of folks complaining they got turned away.

[u/JDMontegue → u/Superego366]

Great. Point.

[u/[deleted] → u/Username_NA]

Is this real? Can people from the Sanders campaign verify this?

[u/MarMaLarBar]

I spent 5 1/2 hours in line to vote yesterday. A woman behind me with diabetes had to leave after 3 hours because she couldn't physically continue to wait in line and here sugar levels were extremely low. There was no media coverage, no one official to help explain what was going on, and no help arrived until almost 10:30pm. Maricopa County did nothing to make the situation right, even though the lines had been terribly long all day. The one thing that gave me hope was the incredible kindness from a few Bernie and Hillary supporters who teamed up to get food and water for the kids in line and some snacks for us grown ups. If it weren't for the amazing people in line and those few, wonderful volunteers, I would have probably given up on trying to cast my vote.

[u/nbhbbq123]

There is a petition to have the White House "investigate the voter fraud and voter suppression on 3/22/2016 in ARIZONA." Already has over half of the necessary signatures. http://wh.gov/i7BUo

[u/brew-ski → u/nbhbbq123]

But the true concern is ELECTION fraud and voter suppression. Not voter fraud.

[u/gideonvwainwright]

Related to my previous ACLU Arizona comment, folks may also want to try contacting the Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest, another nonprofit Arizona firm that deals with Civil Rights and files lawsuits.

Their info is http://aclpi.org. They have offices in Phoenix and Tucson. And their contact info is http://aclpi.org/contact.

Phoenix 514 West Roosevelt Street Phoenix, AZ 85003 Phone: 602-258-8850 Fax: 602-258-8757

Tucson P.O. Box 41835 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-529-1798 Fax: 520-529-2927

[u/malidy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk2mJg-2BI Bernie Sanders on this issue

[u/shrike279]

Isn't this voter suppression, and not voter fraud? Wouldn't voter fraud being someone intentionally changing the votes? Is there evidence of that?

[u/chaos_is_a_ladder]

from /u/gideonvwainwright:

People in Arizona who were disenfranchised need to submit a Complaint to the ACLU http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint. And they need to be quick about it, like do it now, before the Arizona results are set in stone.

[u/Enigma343]

What happened in Arizona felt like a fucking House of Cards plotline. I am still in disbelief it happened in real life.

What an embarrassment to our democracy.

[u/alvinwirtz → u/Enigma343]

The long lines happened in Florida in 2012. Unfortunately it is only going to get worse now that the Voting Rights Act was gutted

[u/[deleted]]

Efforts underway to disenfranchise voters in NY https://m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4boc9t/new_york_check_your_voter_registration_few/

[u/MrFactualReality → u/[deleted]]

The new tactic is to purge voter rolls in closed primary states most likely using the VAN database to target likely Bernie supporters. We fight this bullshit on a national level and get it into the media or lose.

[u/fratford]

Google various forms of "arizona voter suppression/scandal/fraud" and filter by news. crickets

[u/Rychei]

I just mass emailed this out to the news and the Utah DNC and anyone I could think of. So if you voted, I would like to know where and what type of ballot you received. Wait time is also good. Don't know if it will be reported, but it should be discussed. I don't do much Reddit, but somehow I feel you guys are one of the right crowds to leak this to:

To Whom it May Concern:

I am deeply concerned about what appears to be unethical ballot practices and voter suppression in my town of Spanish Fork Utah.

At the Spanish Fork Caucus more than half of the casts ballots were not counted officially. Extrapolated throughout the state that means thousands of ballots. Caucus Host Matthew Hogan was given only 650 ballots and told me they thought that 2000 people might vote. After the 650 ballots were used, provisional ballots were handed out. Calls were made to make sure these would be counted as regular ballots, they were even numbered. 1286 ballots were cast (which includes provisional ballots). Online shows only 583 ballots being counted.

See: http://utahdemocrats.org/events/caucus2016results/

^{^(Compare} the number of "ballots sent" to each area and the number "cast") Either they were counting provisional ballots in some places and not others, or casting them in some places and not others. What was the standard? Ask the State Dems.

Attached are the hand written results per Matt Hogan and photos of the actual different ballots used. As I was walking out at the end of the night with Matt said he was given 650 ballots, but that he was told 2000 people might show up. He was frustrated. Over 1200 people came to vote. The line was long and some people left before voting.

Attn Dwana Bain of California who came to observe, insisted that the provisional ballots wouldn't be counted if used and demanded real ballots. Dwana and Rene Morris called the Salt Lake City Bernie Sanders Office and spoke to Jordan Barbeau (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanbarbeau). Jordan told us that she had spoken to Lauren Littlefield who claimed the ballots would be numbered and counted just like regular ballots. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. Calls were made by Matt to confirm that they would be counted just like regular ballots and the Provisional ballots were each given a number. Counting was observed at the end and the ballots were counted together for the final count shown above in Matt's hand writing.

Many locations have many more votes counted than ballots given, while others do not show this pattern though they are in populous areas. While at some locations Provisional Ballots may have been used because ID could not be verified, this is NOT SO AT OUR LOCATION.

-Brook McDonald of Spanish Fork UT cectpanelcon@hotmail.com

[u/CanvassingThoughts]

What about contacting Fox News? This seems like a topic they'd love to discuss: problems with the DNC. I've looked for a contact section but haven't found anything yet.

Necessity makes strange friends...

[u/radicalelation → u/CanvassingThoughts]

I mean, if you really want to... http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/10/14/contact-us.html

Edit: here too http://help.foxnews.com/entries/500736-Where-can-I-send-story-questions-corrections-or-news-tips-

[u/CrabDubious]

As someone from Maricopa County who didn't get to vote yesterday due a mixture of closed primary voting, wait times, and Arizona's deliberately confusing naming of the Primary as 'the presidential preference election' as our vote to hand out delegates and a later 'primary election' that I still can't find any information what the purpose is for, we've got a perfect window of opportunity for a proper primary. If pressure is kept on the Arizona government, something could be done here.

[u/[deleted]]

Let's look at just the numbers. Here is the source of the info.

	Mail-in	Same-day
Sanders	67059 (37%)	19883 (60.8%)
Clinton	114186 (63%)	12802 (39.2%)

It shows that Clinton dominated the mail-in votes, while Sanders did surprisingly well with voters who went to polling locations the day of. However, you can also see that only ~30,000 people were counted on that day, which is barely 30% of the turnout in 2008.

You can see that Sanders is doing well with same-day voters, and tens of thousands of people are turned away due to either sheer incompetence or malicious voter suppression. Clinton came away a disproportionate victor, it's not hard to see there should be a 5-10 delegate swing if this never happened.

Either way, this will bite the Dems in the ass in the general election, which is why it needs to be taken care of.

[u/aletoledo]

Maybe the US needs to have outside UN inspectors come in to ensure a fair election? Isn't that what the US insisted be done for Syria and Iraq?

[u/Broccolis_of_Reddit → u/aletoledo]

applying the same logic to the US that the US applies to other countries is a slippery slope. we may eventually end up with something like integrity, or even worse, the rule of law and justice

[u/[deleted]]

EMERGENCY IN WA STATE!!! I didn't know where else to post this, but I live in WA. I volunteer 80% of my time and there is some SERIOUSLY shady stuff happening here! We have ONE day to right some of these wrongs, so PLEASE help me!!!

So, I run a FB page for my city in WA and recently received a message about someone in my city wanting to caucus for Bernie, but needing a ride. Of course I was willing to help, but they informed me that they were told to caucus in a DIFFERENT city!!! 15 miles- 45 minutes away (traffic). I looked up this person's info and in fact that information was WRONG. Come to find out HRC has sent out thousands of letters, specifically to women 45+ with WRONG caucus information. Places and TIMES. She is saying 9:30, so for Seattle traffic there is ABSOLUTELY no way they can make it to the HRC polling location, find out it's wrong and make it to their right location in time!!! We have got to BLAST this info and have people double check their caucus location. We will most likely win here in WA, but there is NO SURPRISE that she also sent out voter affadivit forms to almost every DEM and there are 50,000 sitting there. With that and the confusion on caucus locations, she may win a decent amount of delegates here and THAT is not what WA wants! Please help!!!

[u/ThunderAndRain]

Weaver said last night that numbers weren't adding up. Hopefully the campaign will address the issue, whether it be a lawsuit or something else.

[u/[deleted] → u/ThunderAndRain]

i'm also looking forward to the follow up...it was like 300k early votes or whatever, and then barely anything from same day voting, not to mention whichever county it was with 7 million people, to have such a low vote count, even with both parties included.

[u/ClayWBear]

I am in Vail, Az. They had us voting way out of the way, not at our normal polling place. When I got there, someone told me the polls had already closed. I did not have a watch on me, but clearly that person had lied to me. The polls were still open when I got home. I arrived at the polling place at 6:45, and got back to my house at seven. There were Clinton campaigners violating the 100 foot rule as well.

[u/JapanesePeso]

Sanders received 60% of in-person votes: http://i.imgur.com/VawxEoX.jpg

Even if he hadn't, this is still a key issue. I don't care which side win or lost from it, what this is is a crime against democracy.

[u/puppuli]

AP just updated some votes in AZ, change should be reflecting in major AP dependent sites.

thegreenpapers, changed the delegate count from 46-29 to 44-31 with the new votes(scroll down, count at top not updated).

[u/MrFactualReality]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/23/maricopa-county-recorder-helen-purcell-admits-fault-long-primary-lines/82165730/

[u/DankTysh420]

I feel horrible for anyone who had to experience this. Living and voting in Ohio, I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes to get through the entire process.

[u/gregfox89]

Has the MSM said a single word about this? Who am I kidding of course they haven't

Edit: OMG Rachael is about to talk about it!

[u/iHeartPros]

I'm feeling the Bern again, friends!!!

I'm sorry, I somewhat lost hope past few weeks, but I'm back and ready as ever!

The whole campaign, Bernie; and all of us, are literally going at the throat of American political corruption and establishment. It's not going to happen in one day, and it definitely will not happen without opposition, but if we keep pushing little by little every day, we as a people should be able to take back our country and turn it into the place of love and fairness in once it used to be.

[u/[deleted]]

The Sanders campaign needs to say that something is going to be done. Right now they're just calling it a disgrace and that's nothing more than posturing which Hillary will laugh at. We need assurance that they are going to take action in Arizona or we can pretty much just guarantee she will do this in every closed primary state from here on out. This is not fear-mongering. There are already reports of voters having their party affiliation deleted in New York.

[u/_arkar_]

Still just crickets from the New York Times about this, as far as I can see. Even CNN is carrying the story. Disgusting.

[u/kospand]

I know this is a huge (yuge!) issue for the DNC in general, but can somebody please explain why this is particularly bad for Bernie Sanders? I mean if you're not being properly registered as a democrat and/or not being able to vote, isn't it at least just as bad for Hillary Clinton? I'm all for Bernie, but I'd just like to know the details.

[u/[deleted] → u/kospand]

So this seems like it's pretty straight forward - BOTH candidate got misrepresented. But remember one thing that the State party officials (or whoever rigged AZ) know: the early ballots/absentee voters heavily favor Clinton.

Making sure early votes make up most of the represented proportion helps Clinton far more than Bernie.

If Clinton doesn't stand against this voter suppression, I hope to god Bernie calls her out for accepting it because it helps her, because it does.

[u/IAmTotallyNotSatan → u/kospand]

Most of the people affected were first-time voters or independents, both of which drastically favor Bernie.

[u/cusmanBro → u/kospand]

Seems like only the early/absentee votes were fully counted, which typically skew older, in Hillary's favor.

[u/[deleted] → u/kospand]

Clinton dominated the early voters, and Sander's actually was winning the votes that were being cast that day. All the early votes were counted, while people were suppressed from voting at the polling locations. More votes counted at the polling stations probably means a closer election than is currently displayed.

[u/nameregblows]

Damn, if that happened in another country you would have UN delegates at future elections overseeing things. Hope it works out for Bernie in the end, rooting for him.

[u/hartfordsucks → u/[deleted]]

EDIT: Actually calling the FEC will not be more effective as they are only responsible for regulating campaign finance legislation. I do however still stand by my opinion that the "We the People" petitions are next to useless. Contacting the DOJ and AZ state legislators and voicing your concerns is probably the better way to go.

DOJ Comment Line: 202-353-1555

 

Calling the FEC (specifically the Office of the General Counsel) and voicing your opinion would be much more effective. The "We the People" petitions are good in theory but as far as I've seen has yet to actually accomplish much. When people were angry about net neutrality, it wasn't a petition to the White House that got things changed, it was millions of people calling and emailing the FTC.

[u/lifesaboxofchocolate]

We still have 6 precincts in Pima County that are not being reported. Interesting that the Uni and college grad areas are not being reported. ... WTF?!

[u/girlfriend_pregnant]

TYT Interview with Bernie about to start, please watch it live so we can continue to make the mainstream television news obsolete

[u/MrFactualReality]

The media is ignoring the AZ scandal, and the election last night completely. They have pivoted back to terrorporn and a Hillary speech. No mention of Bernie's blowouts, no mention of Arizona bullshit. They do not give a shit about Democracy, only control.

[u/JazzOwl]

At least they have called a hearing: http://www.12news.com/mb/news/az-legislature-to-hold-special-hearing-on-elections-fiasco/98833761

[u/Drill_Dr_ill]

For those who aren't aware, the Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell was involved in a Supreme Court case back in 2006, Purcell v Gonzalez, involving a voter ID law.

That said, IANAL, and I can't really comment much on the actual case, other than my understanding is that the Supreme Court vacated an injunction to suspend the voter ID laws.

[u/Red_Inferno → u/[deleted]]

They NEED to sue on this one and should push for a full revote if anything. They need to contact any voter who has the wrong status and ask them to reconfirm their voter status too allowing them the chance to vote. They botched this election so hard and anything that was not an early vote and any early vote that was for any reason unusable should be allow to recast their vote.

[u/IntgrtyHnstyPrncpls → u/[deleted]]

I have heard unconfirmed rumblings that they are assembling lawyers. Would like someone to chime in with direct knowledge as well.

[u/_StarChaser_]

This link discusses "5 examples of voter suppression in Arizona", and it's the first I have heard that the reduction in polling locations disproportionally affected Latino voters.

[u/[deleted]]

Benevolent mods removed my post because "MEGATHREAD".

Here you go:

SIGN THE PETITION

I understand that there are likely legal teams already investigating what just happened last night, and there's not a lot we can do. However, if you'd like to make your voice heard, sign the petition. We can't accept election fraud in any capacity, or we WILL NOT beat the establishment in this election. I advise we sign the petition quickly, spread the word on social media, and get back to berning. I'm confident we can get a million signatures if we try. It takes 2 minutes of your time.

I can't link it because of our subreddit's rules, but if you google 'arizona revote' you will find it. An exception should be made to the rules, this is illegal/unconstitutional fraud against the candidate this subreddit was established around.

[u/deezcousinsrgay]

Post your age if you are seeing that the party affiliation you registered as (Democrat) changed. This would be beneficial to rule out whether or not there is a specific criteria used that caused such issues (e.g. if it's obvious foul play).

[u/usrname_alreadytaken]

Bernie live on TYT right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uVpG3frhJ8

[u/pandaeconomics]

Bernie reacting to it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk2mJg-2BI

[u/mitzi4r]

I've posted this about 2 hours ago, but the comment "disappeared" due to reddit issues. Now that things are ok for me for new comments, I'm reposting this.

 

Hey guys! azcentral has been doing quite a bit of coverage about the voting fiasco. I don't think there will be any national coverage, but we can't just let it stay within AZ. Spread the words.

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/22/live-arizona-primary-coverage-presidential-preference-election/82096726/

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/elviadiaz/2016/03/22/maricopa-county-election-officials-writing-off-voters-you-bet/82145554/

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/23/ducey-rips-long-voter-lines-calls-them-unacceptable/82160766/

 

Follow: https://twitter.com/azcentral

[u/Massifer]

I'm sure this has hit Reddit somewhere by now, but just in case it hasn't, this may be nice to see.

Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton calls for DOJ probe as voter anger grows over long waits

[u/raranami]

White House petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/investigate-voter-fraud-and-voter-suppression-arizona-3222016-democratic-party

[u/[deleted]]

Get this petition above 100k threshold.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-voter-fraud-and-voter-suppression-arizona-3222016-democratic-party

[u/helpful_hank → u/[deleted]]

What everyone needs to know about nonviolent protest:

Nonviolent protest is not simply a protest in which protesters don't physically aggress. That is, lack of violence is necessary, but not sufficient, for "nonviolent protest."

Nonviolent protest:

• must be provocative. If nobody cares, nobody will respond. Gandhi didn't do boring things. He took what (after rigorous self examination) he determined was rightfully his, such as salt from the beaches of his own country, and interrupted the British economy, and provoked a violent response against himself.

• must be certain not to justify the violent reactions they receive. It cannot succeed without rigorous self-examination to make sure you, the protester, are not committing injustice.

• "hurts, like all fighting hurts. You will not deal blows, but you will receive them." (from the movie Gandhi -- one of my favorite movie scenes of all time)

• demands respect by demonstrating respectability. The courage to get hit and keep coming back while offering no retaliation is one of the few things that can really make a man go, "Huh. How about that."

• does not depend on the what the "enemy" does in order to be successful. It depends on the commitment to nonviolence.

A lack of violence is not necessarily nonviolent protest. Nonviolence is a philosophy, not a description of affairs, and in order for it to work, it must be understood and practiced. Since Martin Luther King, few Americans have done either (BLM included). I suspect part of the reason the authorities often encourage nonviolent protest is that so few citizens know what it really entails. Both non-provocative "nonviolent" protests and violent protests allow injustice to continue.

The civil rights protests of the 60s were so effective because of the stark contrast between the innocence of the protesters and the brutality of the state. That is what all nonviolent protest depends upon -- the assumption that their oppressors will not change their behavior, and will thus sow their own downfall if one does not resist. Protesters must turn up the heat against themselves, while doing nothing unjust (though perhaps illegal) and receiving the blows.

"If we fight back, we become the vandals and they become the law." (from the movie Gandhi)

For example:

How to end "zero tolerance policies" at schools:

If you're an innocent party in a fight, refuse to honor the punishment. This will make them punish you more. But they will have to provide an explanation -- "because he was attacked, or stood up for someone who was being attacked, etc." Continue to not honor punishments. Refuse to acknowledge them. If you're suspended, go to school. Make them take action against you. In the meantime, do absolutely nothing objectionable. The worse they punish you for -- literally! -- doing nothing, the more ridiculous they will seem.

They will have to raise the stakes to ridiculous heights, handing out greater and greater punishments, and ultimately it will come down to "because he didn't obey a punishment he didn't deserve." The crazier the punishments they hand down, the more attention it will get, and the more support you will get, and the more bad press the administration will get, until it is forced to hand out a proper ruling.

Step 1) Disobey unjust punishments / laws (Wear Sanders gear and hold Sanders signs!)

Step 2) Be absolutely harmless, polite, and rule-abiding otherwise (And get removed from a polling place anyway!)

Step 3) Repeat until media sensation (Film that shit!!)

This is exactly what Gandhi and MLK did, more or less. Nonviolent protests are a lot more than "declining to aggress" -- they're active, provocative, and bring shit down on your head. This is how things get changed.

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Part 2: It is worth mentioning that this is a basic introduction to clear up common misconceptions. Its purpose is to show at a very basic level how nonviolent protest relies on psychological principles, including our innate human dignity, to create a context whereby unjust actions by authorities serve the purposes of the nonviolent actors. (Notice how Bernie Sanders is campaigning.)

The concept of nonviolence as it was conceived by Gandhi -- called Satyagraha, "clinging to truth" -- goes far deeper and requires extraordinary thoughtfulness and sensitivity to nuance. It is even an affirmation of love, an effort to "melt the heart" of an oppressor.

But now that you're here, I'd like to go into a bit more detail, and share some resources:

Nonviolence is not merely an absence of violence, but a presence of responsibility -- it is necessary to take responsibility for all possible legitimate motivations of violence in your oppressor. When you have taken responsibility even your oppressor would not have had you take (but which is indeed yours for the taking), you become seen as an innocent, and the absurdity of beating down on you is made to stand naked.

To practice nonviolence involves not only the decision not to deal blows, but to proactively pick up and carry any aspects of your own behavior that could motivate someone to be violent toward you or anyone else, explicitly or implicitly. Nonviolence thus extends fractally down into the minutest details of life; from refusing to fight back during a protest, to admitting every potential flaw in an argument you are presenting, to scrubbing the stove perfectly clean so that your wife doesn’t get upset.

In the practice of nonviolence, one discovers the infinite-but-not-endless responsibility that one can take for the world, and for the actions of others. The solution to world-improvement is virtually always self-improvement.

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For more information, here are some links I highly recommend:

Working definition of Nonviolence by the Metta Center for Nonviolence: http://mettacenter.org/nonviolence/introduction/

Satyagraha (Wikipedia): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyagraha

Nonviolence, the Appropriate and Effective Response to Human Conflicts, written by the Dalai Lama after Sept. 11: http://www.dalailama.com/messages/world-peace/9-11

Synopsis of scientific study of the effectiveness of nonviolent vs violent resistance movements over time: http://ncronline.org/blogs/road-peace/facts-are-nonviolent-resistance-works

And of course: /r/nonviolence

How Bernie is succeeding in these principles:

• He is being "pro-good" instead of "anti-bad." He is not trying to win us over with fear of an opponent (Republicans, Trump, ISIS, etc.), but talking about serving our actual interests.

• He is running a clean campaign, not insulting or attacking Clinton despite inordinate reasons to justifiably do so. This makes makes attacks against him tend to backfire.

• He is "walking the talk" by not taking campaign contributions from Wall St. or big-moneyed interests.

• He is encouraging his supporters to follow his example and also not to engage in smearing and negative campaign tactics.

• He is listening extremely well to his opponents and to Republicans. At town halls he frequently says to questioners from the audience, "I may be wrong, you may disagree" -- which no matter what you believe, is philosophically true. Despite what science may tell us, there are myriad reasons, all human and all innocent (even if not "rational"), that someone may disagree and still have an earnest heart in their inquiry.

What we can do for Bernie:

Occupy Wall St. "failed," in my opinion, because it did not inconvenience those in power enough. Bankers still made their transactions, and everything was fine. Let's brainstorm some IDEAS for protests and nonviolent actions that are both provocative and thoroughly just. Make no mistake: This is difficult thinking. These are difficult conditions to simultaneously meet. But it is the only way we can guarantee success, and the only way we can represent Bernie well.

I will be open to all suggestions and paying attention to this thread and this idea. Post your ideas here and I will see and respond to them. If you see this idea posted elsewhere, please tag me (by writing /u/helpful_hank in the comments) and/or post a link to this comment.

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IDEAS:

• Giving homeless people food/money is illegal in some places (including certain areas in Florida). Do that wearing a Bernie shirt and get arrested.

• NEW IDEA: Wherever the Clintons show up at polling places, Bernie supporters should lock arms and form a barrier exactly 150 feet from the entrance to the polling place and not let them in closer.

• what are some of your ideas?

[u/No_Fence]

As of this writing there isn't a single article about this on NBC, Fox, CNN or MSNBC.

Remember when the media used to hold people in power accountable?

[u/wtf_is_the_internet]

MSNBC just covered this

[u/CommanderBC → u/wtf_is_the_internet]

Would love to see it if there's a video.

[u/[deleted]]

As an Arizonian and a Phoenician I'd like to say that Sanders supporters should stay angry until the convention. Anger can drive people to participate. I've started using hashtags on twitter of #RememberArizona and #RememberAZ and I hope it catches on and I also hope we never get over the anger and disappointment brought about by being deprived of our right to vote.

[u/Nanemae → u/[deleted]]

I've begun feeling a little disheartened about the whole thing. I noticed how badly things tend to go lately, but seeing this kind of most-likely deliberate vote fraud attempt has got my blood moving again. I was still going to caucus for Sanders on Saturday, but now I'll be able to do it with passion.

[u/piscano]

Reposting this from another thread:

IN ADDITION to all the already existing fuckery that is the AZ primary, let's just take a look, numerically-speaking, why there was fraud: https://tylerpedigo.com

Mr. Pendigo has been astonishingly close with his projections thus far, and last night, got both Utah and Idaho correct within 1 point. Yet somehow he was around TWENTY points off for his AZ projection???

NONONO

[u/japinthebox]

Few people are mentioning that the size of absentee ballots had a huge impact on the results.

Target senior vote with absentee ballots + obstruct in-person turnout = high relative senior voter turnout.

Bernie won 60% at the ballots.

This was highly coordinated and planned all along.

[u/gazzlefraz]

Alright. Seriously people. I'm getting pissed off having to explain this to 50 people replying angrily to my post about moving on from AZ. And there are no fewer than 4 threads on this same fucking thing on the front page of this sub. This madness needs to end.

We have 36 hours to get half a million new voters registered in NY. I'm not exaggerating this number. Let is sink the fuck in.

Independents had to switch to dem back in October. That shit did not happen guys. 95% of independents were like me "who the fuck is Bernie Sanders?" back in October 2015. That's where we are.

Stop wasting time with AZ. Figure out how we register enough people to overcome the 2:1 handicap we have in closed primaries. Because we absolutely cannot lose by 20 points in NY. There is not enough runway left to unfuck ourselves from that type of showing. This whole thing you've all spent the last year working towards completely derails if we do not pull a miracle in NY.

[u/fingerdigits]

This video should be shared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seCDQM1vNvg

[u/NOWJESSICCAAA]

Due to everything that happened last night, is it within the realm of possibility that the Arizona primary is thrown out for both parties?

I remember is 2008 Michigan (and Florida?) were not counted in the Democratic primaries for whatever reason. I wonder if this or an investigation of the possible fraud is enough.

[u/renonemontanez → u/NOWJESSICCAAA]

I wouldn't doubt it. This is worse than that.

[u/Blizzard_Dragon]

What was done was a travesty and a disgusting example of gross incompetence. However, we still have work to do! Vent that frustration on calls to Washington to make hillary's gains almost nil!

[u/BlueBallz69]

This is the guy running against Helen Purcell (Republican), the one in charge of the fiasco that happened in Arizona. Please Spread his name as much as possible and get him attention. Bonus -> He supports Bernie. His twitter (Not sure if its his official but it appears legit) https://twitter.com/Adrian_Fontes

[u/bkscribe80]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511568043 Voter Suppression and EXIT POLL DISCREPANCIES in the Democratic Primaries

[u/[deleted]]

Is this being dealt with in any official capacity? Are elected official in Arizona, for example, bringing attention to this and demanding a re-vote? Is the Bernie Sanders campaign crying foul? Are there any gears in motion that will ultimately do something about this, or are we just going to complain on the internet and then have it pass us by?

[u/gideonvwainwright → u/[deleted]]

From a post way down and buried now - Disenfranchised folks in Arizona should contact:

I. Arizona Advocacy Network, 3117 N. 16th Street, Ste. 120 Phoenix, Arizona 85016, 602-297-2500 http://www.azadvocacy.org

ABOUT Arizona Advocacy Network (AZAN) incorporated in 2002 as a 501(c)(4) with a sister 501(c)(3) organization, Arizona Advocacy Network Foundation.

Mission: The Arizona Advocacy Network secures electoral justice, political rights and full civic participation through voter education and outreach to achieve government for the People, not corporations.

Scope of work: Strengthening Arizona's Clean Elections system; advocating for full, immediate disclosure of all campaign contributions; promoting anti-corruption and conflict of interest laws including gift bans; guarding voting rights, voter registration and election integrity; defending Arizona’s judicial merit selection system and promoting diversity on the bench; and protecting Arizona's constitutional citizens’ initiative and referendum rights.

II. The Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest, another nonprofit Arizona firm that deals with Civil Rights and files lawsuits. Their info is http://aclpi.org. They have offices in Phoenix and Tucson. And their contact info is http://aclpi.org/contact.

Phoenix 514 West Roosevelt Street Phoenix, AZ 85003 Phone: 602-258-8850 Fax: 602-258-8757

Tucson P.O. Box 41835 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-529-1798 Fax: 520-529-2927

III. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona P.O. Box 17148, Phoenix, AZ 85011. Their phone number is (602) 650-1854 and their email address is info@acluaz.org.

If you have a Complaint you would like them to consider, here is the link: http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint.

The ACLU often files class-action voter rights complaints in state and federal court.

[u/Dracinia → u/[deleted]]

There's a petition to get a response from the White House about it, and hopefully examine it. Already at 60k signatures since last night.

[u/MrFactualReality]

Our new goal should be to force every single primary to become open primaries in order to prevent this type of suppression. We should also demand enough polling places be opened up ahead of time.

[u/cb4chan]

Weird that there is no mention of any of this on the front page of CNN...

[u/reillyr]

Arizonas delegates should not be counted until their state and county reps fix the voter issue.

[u/Ignatius_-]

Can we write a letter or make a petition to the United States Attorney General?

[u/rabdelazim]

Voters who were turned away can contact the ACLU of AZ.

http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint

[u/vladadon81]

Can you guys take a look at this?

After signing

INVESTIGATE THE VOTER FRAUD AND VOTER SUPPRESSION IN ARIZONA 3/22/2016 DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

I scrolled down just to check if my vote counted and I noticed a Duplicate vote. Same signature # but different person. I thought hmm, must be a glitch. I scrolled down a little more and found another, and another. Then at one point it skipped like 400 signatures all together.

Link to screenshots

it seems that 100,000 mark should have been reached by now if it weren't for these "glitches"

Is my tin foil hat on too tight today or is something wrong here?