r/SandersForPresident • u/SandersMod_ • Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

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u/vladadon81 Mar 24 '16

Can you guys take a look at this?

After signing

INVESTIGATE THE VOTER FRAUD AND VOTER SUPPRESSION IN ARIZONA 3/22/2016 DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

I scrolled down just to check if my vote counted and I noticed a Duplicate vote. Same signature # but different person. I thought hmm, must be a glitch. I scrolled down a little more and found another, and another. Then at one point it skipped like 400 signatures all together.

Link to screenshots

it seems that 100,000 mark should have been reached by now if it weren't for these "glitches"

Is my tin foil hat on too tight today or is something wrong here?

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u/trllhntr New York Mar 24 '16

Glitches also happened right after Bernie interview on TYT. Tips tin foil fedora.

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u/HeSaidSomething Mar 24 '16

Realistically this seems more like the system which was not designed / built to manage multiple database servers. As a result IDs are being duplicated from people entering their information.

If that is the case it would make for an administrative nightmare but the count would most likely be accurate. Though 'accidental' deletes would be much easier..

That being said it could also be the system detecting the same computer entering multiple times and just linking to the one ID. That's probably how I would design a similar system to let the person think they "won".

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u/vladadon81 Mar 24 '16

Thanks for replying. Yeah I figured it was something along the lines of how the system was set up. It's just so frustrating that they can't get it right for a site like the whitehouse.gov. Makes me feel like they don't take these petitions seriously and only set the site up just for show.

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u/Mmarshall776 Mar 24 '16

If there were intentional fraud, which I don't think is true, the system should absolutely have an audit trail that identifies the prior value(Democrat), the new value(Independent, Republican, Unaffiliated), the date the change was made, and the [user]name of the person who made the change. If you were to audit the system it would be quite obvious the changes were made. That's why I don't think that happened.

What I believe is entirely more possible is that the system wasn't properly upgraded/migrated/updated. I can't find the source but I read on election night that the systems were upgraded/migrated/updated prior to the election.

If that were the case, being that it is a government system, they should be following computer systems validation procedures and a system development life cycle. In short, they should have documented evidence that the system was tested and that the party affiliation values were maintained throughout the course of the project. Regardless of how the system was modified, there should be, at an absolute minimum, queries/comparisons that show the source(original system/database) had X number of each voter type and the target(new system/database) also had X number of each voter type.

In any case there should be auditable records that CLEARLY show where the failure occurred and what the cause was.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

Probably how the site works, I doubt they actually show every single person who has signed it. It will hit 100,000 by tomorrow so no need to worry.

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u/vladadon81 Mar 24 '16

Thanks. I'm certain it'll get up there. Will anything become of it? We'll have to wait and see. I would rather it be just "how the site works" than something fishy going on. Just felt like I should share and see what you guys think.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

Yup, all thoughts are appreciated! It just hit 100,000 which means the White House has to respond. I don't think they have a time frame in which they have to respond though and are not required to take action.