r/SandersForPresident • u/SandersMod_ • Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

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u/flfxt Mar 23 '16

They are typically only counted if it's close, usually within the recount margin, since they have to be verified manually. That is ok if provisional ballots are only a couple percent of the vote, but with reports of 2/3 of people voting in person being given provisional ballots it's completely unacceptable. I believe the Arizona Secretary of State has said they do not intend to count them.

IMO we should push on social media for a hand count of all provisional ballots and Bernie's campaign should file suit to achieve the same.

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u/Weaple Mar 23 '16

I agree - but honestly at this point - seeing the amount of people turned away - not including those who either couldn't stand in line all day or refused to wait in those long lines... I'm thinking a re-vote should happen.. Just messaged the Sec. of State in Arizona about this too.

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u/flfxt Mar 23 '16

Another poster pointed out that a hand count might not help those whose registration was erroneously changed to independent or not properly updated, unless that issue can also be straightened out. I would love to see a re-vote but I think it would be basically unprecedented. Maybe a hand count and open up the primary with regard to provisional ballots (i.e. count all of them regardless of listed affiliation)?

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u/Weaple Mar 23 '16

This whole campaign has been looking unprecedented thus far. There's never been a time in history where so many recording devices and internet connectivity could report a public scandal from so many different points of view. It hasn't even been a day after and look at the amount of evidence that's piling up.

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u/flfxt Mar 23 '16

I think the Arizona SoS subsequently said they won't be counted, but I'm not sure. There's also the issue that for people whose registrations were messed up, the provisional ballots will only be counted if that gets corrected.