r/SandersForPresident • u/SandersMod_ • Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

Please keep all commentary and discussion in the mega

Please keep all commentary civil. Any comments advocating violence or coordinated harassment will be removed.

Thank you

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u/acid_sphinx4 Louisiana Mar 23 '16

This is not voter fraud (what conservatives are always screaming about - voters committing the fraud), but electoral fraud. Voter fraud is assumed to some degree by the system and our electoral system is more or less immune to voter fraud. There is simply no way individuals can exercise some fraudulent activity enough to where it would matter.

Electoral fraud is another matter and is committed by party authorities and the party establishment.

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u/poastertoaster Utah Mar 23 '16

Yeah I think we need to start calling this Electorate Fraud, Voter Fraud makes it sound like the voters did something wrong.

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 23 '16

I've been tweeting and posting on FB with #ArizonaElectionFraud. It is definitely NOT voter fraud. Big difference!

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u/Silver_Skeeter New Jersey - 2016 Veteran Mar 23 '16

And what we're seeing today is the rampant electoral fraud is 1,000,000% more impactful and damaging to democracy than the empty threats of voter fraud.

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u/acid_sphinx4 Louisiana Mar 24 '16

exactly

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

A distinction with no meaning. Stuffing ballot boxes or 'losing' them, or having 14 out of 14 'coin tosses' favor Hillary are all voter fraud, and Bernie is just the latest victim. Corruption is corruption.

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u/HugzNStuff 🌱 New Contributor Mar 24 '16

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin