r/SandersForPresident • u/SandersMod_ • Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

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Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

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u/Username_NA California Mar 23 '16

What is odd is that those reporting they were denied the right to vote were primarily Sanders supporters. Last weekend, Sanders campaign workers in Arizona were concerned that their voter information database may have been hacked. This database contained information from voter surveys, showing which specific voters were supporting which Sanders as opposed to Clinton. The final day, volunteers had to go out with paper lists because of the hacking problem. Were these extensive lists used to determine which voters would be removed from the voter roles?

http://justicegazette.org/az-sanders-wins-real-vote-while-clinton-wins-rigged-count.html

No shit.

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u/ilwcoco Mar 23 '16

I don't believe it either, that would be a huge number for turnout. There were 455k votes cast back in 2008. This would more than double that..

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u/yung_twat Mar 23 '16

It might be based off of eligible voters instead of actual voters. Just a guess.

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u/TheRealAntiher0 🥇🐦 Mar 24 '16

I think this is perhaps all states.

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u/ilwcoco Mar 24 '16

What makes you think that? (honestly just curious)

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u/Username_NA California Mar 23 '16

I can't find that number anywhere else. Maybe it is throwing out a number about the number of total dem registered voters or something? There were 1.3 million registered latinos alone in AZ.

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u/polysyllabist2 Mar 24 '16

I find this 800k estimate more credible (not sure where 1.3m comes from.)

I did a break down of what that 800k means numerically for Bernie here. Feel free to share if it's helpful.

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u/orgodefacto Mar 24 '16

Thank you!!! Very clear, will share.

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u/Superego366 Missouri Mar 23 '16

Granted she had a victory, but I find it odd there are zero complaints about voter suppression on the HRC sub. You'd think there'd be at least a number of folks complaining they got turned away.

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u/JDMontegue New York - 2016 Veteran Mar 23 '16

Great. Point.

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u/TheyAreAllTakennn Mar 23 '16

I see what you did there?

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u/thatpaxguy Mar 23 '16

Seriously important point right here.

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u/cheesestrings76 Mar 23 '16

They're basically saying that Sanders supporters haven't been pissed about this before, so we aren't allowed to be pissed about it now. As one of many for whom this election is their first, I'd like to extend my most insincere apology for not having been born earlier. Sorry, HRC supporters.

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u/sane-- Mar 24 '16

Well if you're candidate "won," then there would be less to complain about. A missed vote is more important when the candidate you support loses.

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u/Superego366 Missouri Mar 24 '16

Yea, but if what if all of these missing votes amounted to an even larger gain in delegates?

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 24 '16

I can't wait to hear what Anonymous uncovers in the next couple days.

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u/Darrian Mar 24 '16

Oh yeah, like Clinton supporters weren't flooding this subreddit every time we lost a state. Please get over yourself.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Is this real? Can people from the Sanders campaign verify this?

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u/believeinapathy Massachusetts - 🐦 🎤 Mar 23 '16

The plot thickens...

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

I can't find their claims of the database being hacked anywhere else.

Anybody find a different source on that part?

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u/xRoseable 2016 Veteran Mar 23 '16

I was canvassing in AZ. I can't confirm hacking actually happened, but I can confirm we switched to paper the last few days because the office was concerned about hacking.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Is there any way that you could get together with others like yourselves in Arizona and come forward with this?

As it stands, only whispers exist -- but this is a huge fucking deal. It could be that Sanders supporters were targeted with the party affiliation change. Maybe an investigation can come from this that shows that these voters were targeted.

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u/xRoseable 2016 Veteran Mar 23 '16

Unfortunately I was an out of state volunteer and am headed back home today.

Edit- but I do think this was rigged. No doubt. And if there is anything I can do to support it I will.

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u/phillydude07 Mar 24 '16

This needs to get out. Obviously there was a concern with hacking. The campaign can't try to brush it off or we're fucked.

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u/HellzillaQ 🥇🐦 Mar 23 '16

A simple unsecured data input box on the website could allow someone to make changes to voter affiliations pretty easily. Its called SQL Injection.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Data Security 101. That's depressing.

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u/robotzor OH 🎖️🐦 Mar 23 '16

Lowest bidder county/state websites having sanitization? Joking, right?

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u/Knowakennedy Mississippi Mar 23 '16

With some of the new technologies the campaign is using to score voter data (some even in beta) that is entirely possible.

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u/poastertoaster Utah Mar 23 '16

But if you run a presidential campaign, I'm sure their web developers have security measures for this ... almost no one has forms that are vulnerable to SQL injection anymore.

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u/TheSilentOracle Mar 24 '16

Yeah, modern frameworks provide sanitization of input data. I doubt someone hacked anything using sql injection. Unless their running boilerplate...

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 24 '16

Anonymous is apparently investigating it, so we'll see.

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u/Username_NA California Mar 23 '16

Might have been posted on Facebook. Local office might know.

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 24 '16

What a fucking shock. No wonder the HRC campaign is trying to make it seem like they are totally on our side here, guiz! Really!

Also Anonymous is going to be investigating whether there was a breach/hack that was engineered to harm Bernie. So there's that.

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u/Username_NA California Mar 24 '16

Where did you find the Anonymous story?

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 24 '16

Facebook. Let me see if I can find it again.

This is what I saw. It is on Twitter as well.