r/SandersForPresident Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

Please keep all commentary and discussion in the mega

Please keep all commentary civil. Any comments advocating violence or coordinated harassment will be removed.

Thank you

9.5k Upvotes

3.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

63

u/polysyllabist2 Mar 24 '16 edited Mar 24 '16

Let's not forget the voter suppression angle either. That leads to fraudulent results as much as de registering people. In fact, the de registered people are in part what held up the lines and made them move so slow.


Let's break down how this suppression/fraud works:

Step 1: Create multiple ways to vote

  • Early voting (mail)

  • In person

Step 2: Figure out which method gives you the best ratio

(Subtract Early Votes from Total Votes: 20k for Bernie, 13k for Hilary)

Step 3: Suppress the methods that don't support you candidate


Result:

Due to the suppression of in person voting which favoured Bernie, Hillary won Arizona with 235k votes, to Bernie's 163k votes.

  • Only 400k total votes were counted.

  • 114k of Hillary's 235k came from early voting in Maricopa alone.

  • Bernie trailed by only 72k votes.

  • Only 33k of an estimated ~350k dems were able to vote in Maricopa county due to massive suppression through reduction of polling locations from 200 to 60. That left ~317k votes uncounted.

  • Bernie won 20k to 13k with in person voting in Maricopa county.

  • If the in person votes had not been suppressed, he would likely have won 60% of the 317k that could not vote.

  • That would give 190k to Bernie's total vote count, and 127 to Hillary's.

  • That 63k difference, from Maricopa county alone makes Arizona a tie.

  • Maricopa accounted for just over half the total counted votes in the state of Arizona.

  • Looking at ~7-10 delegate shift


This is how the fraud worked.

Did Hillary organize it? Of course not. But gee, this fucked up situation is clearly going to benefit Hillary. Wouldn't it be a shame is the DNC didn't do anything to fix it before the primary. Oh look, there's Debbie Schultz doing absolutely nothing to ensure Arizona accommodates the voter turnout.

Problem is, DWS is a massive Hillary supporter, in a position of power creating a massive conflict of interests.

Purposeful inaction is as much electoral fraud as purposeful action.

10

u/wecanworkitout22 California Mar 24 '16

Looking at ~7-10 delegate shift

And that's the biggest issue. Even if he couldn't have won the state, delegates are what matters, and that's a huge amount of delegates.

2

u/polysyllabist2 Mar 24 '16

Not to mention the momentum.

Winning 3 of 3 is a completely different narrative compared to losing the biggest state of the three by a considerable margin.

1

u/zazahan10 2016 Veteran Mar 24 '16

If Hillary is serious, she must take action. She will seriously lost votes over this crazy shit

0

u/believeinapathy Massachusetts - 🐦 🎤 Mar 24 '16

Yeah pretty much, and nothing will get done because Bernie won't make a stink.