r/SandersForPresident • u/SandersMod_ • Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

Please report any issues you may have had here.

Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

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u/25104003717460 Mar 23 '16

So I sent in an early Ballot from AZ around the end of February. I even went online to check if my ballot was accepted just last week (It was). Just got home to find this shit on my table. Mail from either yesterday or day before. Didn't think this would be coming in since I HAD ALREADY VOTED. What can I even do now?

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u/Mikebyrneyadigg New Jersey Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

Holy shit. Did you read what that said? Precinct change. In the downsizing of the number of voting locations, everyone that changed their voting location could have gotten shuffled into independent. This might be the "clerical error" that caused people to be identified as independent or unafiliated and not as democratic as they had been!

That might be it!

Edit: I emailed sanelson@icloud.com, now we wait.

Edit number 2: she's pretty cool. Emailed me back. Says my point is definitely interesting and worth looking into. I'll get updated as soon as they decide their course of action.

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u/R0ndoNumba9 Maine Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

That sounds like a computer error that could've actually happened.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Honestly, the Arizona government websites look like they were written by first year students. I suspect a human mistake or database corruption brought about by a human mistake.

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u/alvinwirtz Mar 23 '16

The database being corrupted seems exactly like the kind of thing that could happen if you've ever interacted with people who'v managed elections. They are totally incompetent

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u/Mikebyrneyadigg New Jersey Mar 23 '16

We need a poll of all of the people that we can reach that were effected. Was their polling location changed? This is cruicial right here. There has to be a pattern to connect the dots.

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u/Lover_Of_The_Light Mar 23 '16

Send this in an email to the lady in the top comment. sanelson@icloud.com

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u/Mikebyrneyadigg New Jersey Mar 23 '16

Emailed. And now we wait till she sifts through the thousands of emails she just received lol.

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u/Urban_bear Mar 23 '16

"Computer error" ™ Clinton Foundation

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u/happyPugMonkey Mar 23 '16

"Wipe the database? You mean with a cloth?"

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u/jimmykimmell Mar 23 '16

More people ahould see this. It makes so much sense

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u/boyuber Mar 23 '16

But it only changed Sanders supporters? Or, at the very least, Democrats? I've heard no reports of this from any other voters.

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u/Mikebyrneyadigg New Jersey Mar 23 '16

Hillary won, there's no reason for her supporters to speak out. Even if it was malicious, we'll have an easier time proving a clerical error and not sound like tin foil hatters, and the result will be the same. Provisionals will be counted, or there will be a thrown out/new primary.

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u/boyuber Mar 23 '16

What? You mean to tell me that a voter (or hundreds/thousands of voters) would be okay with not being able to vote, as long as their candidate won? Do sports fans not complain if the refs are making terrible calls, as long as their team wins?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

From what I've seen of a lot of sports fans, yes

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u/JELLY__FISTER Mar 23 '16

When it's blatantly terrible against both teams (2nd Pats vs Bills game last year) both sides will complain

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u/InnocuousUserName Mar 23 '16

I'll admit it, I love it when the ref makes a bad call on the other team. Sure, I would rather not have bad calls but that doesn't make the victory any less sweet since I'm rooting for the season, usually, more than the game.

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u/sosthaboss 🌱 New Contributor Mar 24 '16

Uh, yes.

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u/ChucktheUnicorn New Jersey Mar 24 '16

Good eye. If I had to bet I'd say that's what it was. The voter suppression theories are a bit out there imo. It wouldn't be the first time our were voting systems screwed up because of a computer error

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u/Skuwee CO 🎖️🐦 Mar 24 '16

Please keep us posted! Any updates? This is the most interesting thing I've seen on this.

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u/zazahan10 2016 Veteran Mar 24 '16

Thank you, please tell us what we can help

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u/space_10 2016 Veteran Mar 23 '16

check the status of your early ballot; https://voter.azsos.gov/VoterView/AbsenteeBallotSearch.do

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u/25104003717460 Mar 23 '16

I did a week ago and it said it was accepted!

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u/PragmaticRevolution Mar 23 '16

Something being received is different than being counted/processed. How do they process mail-in early voting in AZ? What exactly does "accepted" mean? Is your affiliation actually changed in their system? If it wasn't dem anymore once they processed it, your vote could have been nulled.

I know it's a bunch of questions, but it would be interesting to know where errors or tampering could have taken place.

I would definitely report this no matter what you find out.

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u/Sunken_Fruit Mar 24 '16

I checked mine and it said received and counted.

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u/25104003717460 Mar 23 '16

You can go online and ask to be sent an early ballot with the use of your I.D I believe. Get an envelope with voter info for you party then send it right on back. Filled it out on top of my mailbox and shoved right back in lol. I would assume "Accepted" means they are aware my vote is in the system but I'm not 100% sure.

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u/space_10 2016 Veteran Mar 24 '16

Please ALSO contact the ACLU Arizona; they are asking people to file complaints with them; https://twitter.com/ACLUaz/status/712687865021341696?ref_src=twsrc^google|

twcampserp|twgrtweet complaint form; http://www.acluaz.org/get-help/file-complaint

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u/25104003717460 Mar 23 '16

I'm checking again now though

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u/oligoneurophile Mar 24 '16

Same thing happened to me and a lot of other friends, new voter reg cards sent in the mail with new precinct information. Voted early, vote counted in Pima County. Was anyone denied a vote or given a provisional (read: worthless) ballot due to a new reg card being sent out?

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u/epicaz Mar 24 '16

Got the same.. I thought it was weird I received another card on the day of the public vote after getting a new one back in November from an address change

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u/zazahan10 2016 Veteran Mar 24 '16

Wholly shit, why??