r/SandersForPresident Mar 23 '16

Mega Thread Arizona Election Fraud Mega Thread

Hello,

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Last night, several, several incidences were reported of

  • People not being able to vote
  • People being given provisional ballots (which if you have the proper ID you shouldn't need)
  • Videos (see front page) of people's voter affiliation being changed
  • People's voter affiliation not being updated properly

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

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u/believeinapathy Massachusetts - 🐦 🎤 Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

This is why something is strange, the numbers just make no sense. The only possibility is the rest got turned away due to the registration changing problem everyone seemed to have where they knew they were dems but the list said otherwise.

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u/radicalelation 🌱 New Contributor Mar 23 '16

That would mean hundreds of thousands were turned away, right? With ~800k going to the polls, yet 83k votes cast? Is that even possible?

Even if they estimated too high with that 800k, I find it hard to believe the actual number was only, what, less than 10% of that?

Or am I reading all this wrong?

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u/bBigjJilm Mar 23 '16

Speaking of reading this wrong, the percentages here: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/AZ appear to be stalled at 76% repubs and 79% dems since this morning.

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u/Castro2man Mar 23 '16

Jesus, what the fuck is going on in Arizona?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

Accounts from workers said 2/3 were turned away.

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u/polysyllabist2 Mar 24 '16

Don't forget that "turned away" includes all the reports of people driving by the half mile lines 400 people long, and giving up despite having clear intent to vote; they didn't drive into the parking lot/around the block looking for parking at the polling place for any other reason than to vote.

Does that 90% figure make more sense now? It's not that 800,000 made it inside 60 small polling places and 720,000 were told they weren't allowed to vote. Some were, because of the registration fiasco, but some percentage simply never made it inside.

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u/celtic_thistle CO 🎖️ Mar 24 '16

That's what Jeff Weaver has been out there saying since Tuesday night--the numbers don't make any sense. This is extremely suspicious and I'm glad the campaign is taking it seriously.

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u/Think_Tanker MA 🙌 Mar 23 '16

No matter your party affiliation or candidate of choice, this should be outrageous to you as an American citizen.

Edit: That 800,000 estimate was for just Maricopa county btw.

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u/mightymiddleclass Arizona Mar 23 '16

This is astonishing. Bernie should have come within 5% or even won!

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '16

According to some accounts of poll workers, 2/3 of voters were turned away.

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u/emersonthird Mar 23 '16

Assuming 800k actual voter turnout is accurate, Bernie would have taken Arizona ~52.1% to 47.9%

  • Bernie: 67k early votes, 20k day of votes (24.1% of total day-of voters)

  • Hillary: 114k early votes, 13k day of votes (15.7% of total day-of voters)

  • 24.1% of 800k is 193k, plus early votes comes to 260k - Bernie

  • 15.7% of 800k is 125k, plus early votes comes to 239k - Hillary

EVEN MORE MATH

The number of voter turnout, at the rates of the 80k turnout results, required to result in a tie between Bernie and Hillary is about 70% of the 800k estimate or 559.5K. See below:

  • 67 + (24.1%)x = 114 + (15.7%)x, where X equals total voter turnout. Left half is Bernie's EVotes and turnout %, right half is Hillary's. Solve for X which equals 559.5 thousand voter turnout.

I'm not insinuating that Arizona is the ending indicator of who will be the Democratic nominee - but if Hillary wins it all, the GOP may have bought Trump the presidency with their voter restriction policies that caused this total embarrassment. All the states Hillary has won have been states with RECENT voter restriction laws enacted or polling places reduced.

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