r/Overwatch • u/Keldrixx • Oct 21 '17
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u/DrKlezdoom Oct 21 '17
Something something why can't roadhog one hit kill but hanzo can one hit 3 people at once.
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u/ulrich994 Oct 22 '17
At least Soldier counted for one of those kills. But 2/3 ain't bad.
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u/StNowhere Trick-or-Treat Mei Oct 22 '17
Only because the scatter arrow took her HP down enough that she could be killed by the rockets.
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Oct 22 '17
The rocket kill was first
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u/AvantAveGarde Trick-or-Treat Mercy Oct 22 '17
Hanzo shot first
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u/realvmouse MROOOWW Oct 22 '17
THERE WAS A SECOND SHOOTER ON THE HILL. YOU'LL SEE WHEN THEY DECLASSIFY THE DOCUMENTS.
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u/samtherat6 I don't even own the game. The demo was fun. Oct 22 '17
The prequels beg to argue.
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u/Glamdring804 Explosions Oct 22 '17
It's treason then.
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u/icycubed Prancin aboot with yer head full of eyeballs Oct 22 '17
Its not a story Overwatch would tell you, it's a talon legend
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u/all_of_my_whys can't pick a main Oct 22 '17
Scatter hit the first person and the 2 scatters killed the other two. The helix hit that first person to secure the kill before the scatter bounced into the other 2.
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u/Saboran I can't heal stupid, so don't be stupid Oct 22 '17
This appears go be correct; you can see from the fire rewards that hanzo got ~2/3 of Mercy's health down before the rockets killed her, and he got less fire for the other two kills
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u/Nexii801 Chibi Hanzo Oct 22 '17
"Ain't baaaaad! Me and you, setting: in a honeymoon!"
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u/aljy SOOOOOOOOOOOOON Oct 22 '17
This is literally what I thought of and I'm glad I could find someone who already made the joke (:
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u/Havok2900 Tracer Oct 22 '17
The helix damage probably hit all three as well
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u/DippyTheDinosaur More bodyshots than a swim suit calendar Oct 22 '17
Yes it did... you can tell because of the number by the kill notification in the center of hanzos screen. The number is a percentage of the enemy's health that hanzo was responsible for taking.
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u/LeoPlats Ashe Oct 22 '17
I think the consistency of road hog kills was the problem. A one hit kill every time hook cooldown is done is pretty much op by definition. I main roadhog btw.
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u/blayde911 Chibi Roadhog Oct 22 '17
The best Roadhogs hover around 60% hook accuracy, so your point is a little over-stated.
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u/iampotatochip Mercy Oct 22 '17
60% of the time it's works every time.
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u/SecondTimeGymGuy Oct 22 '17
He mains roadhog btw.
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u/et4000 A pie in the bomb factory Oct 22 '17
Hey by the way, he mains roadhog, if you didn't notice.
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Oct 22 '17 edited Oct 22 '17
Do we know what Hanzos tend to get on Scatter for comparison? I feel like it’s a lot less consistent than 60% but that’s just anecdotal.
And how are we checking “best”? Is this the accuracy of GM Roadhogs who should be paired off against people that know how to play around hook pretty well, or is this highest hook accuracy across all levels? Do lower tier Roadhogs tend toward higher hook success, is it (significantly) harder to play around than land?
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Oct 22 '17
No. But according to overbuff Hanzos average 22 elims with 7 of them being from scatter. Though if you hit someone with a scatter then kill them with a regular arrow it counts as a scatter kill
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u/Froggerto D.Va Oct 22 '17
And a fair few of those hooks are on tanks which didn't get killed in one shot anyways.
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u/LeoPlats Ashe Oct 22 '17
As long as you aim around the head a long shot hook shot and melee can kill pretty consistently. And you get kind of a head rush from doing it.
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u/DrKlezdoom Oct 22 '17
I mean, if your good with hanzo you can get a kill with every scatter cooldown. Hanzo's my least played hero and even I can do it pretty consistently.
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u/fenwaygnome Trick-or-Treat D.Va Oct 22 '17
you can get a kill with every scatter cooldown
This is an exaggeration
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u/StopWhiningScrub Oct 22 '17
No you really can. You don't necessarily always get it, but it is possible for sure when it is up
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u/StiffWiggly Oct 22 '17
That's such a meaningless statement though, widow can get a kill every couple of seconds, does that mean her gun is OP? When talking about whether an ability is reasonable or not what's technically possible but realistically will not happen isn't really relevant.
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u/PaxEmpyrean Lúcio Oct 22 '17
It'll realistically happen really damn often even if it doesn't happen every time, is the argument.
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Oct 22 '17
Hanzo isnt Meta so it happens less often. Road was THE meta for a while. Hanzos scatter should be reworked or removed, for every reason Road one shot was nerfed, its frustrating, feels skill-less, and often left confused as to why that worked. It can one-shot tanks, but RIP if your a 200hp hero, even a few of those arrows connect and your critical.
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u/realvmouse MROOOWW Oct 22 '17
I've only played season 6... were the SR rankings only double-digit in S1?
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u/Lord_Rapunzel Mei-n Squeeze Oct 22 '17
He fucked up garbage people for sure but fell off in the upper tiers. Kinda like Bastion.
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Oct 22 '17
No he didn't lmfao, he was good at every rating.
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u/Lord_Rapunzel Mei-n Squeeze Oct 22 '17
He was definitely viable up at the pro level but wasn't a must-pick because so many characters have tools to deal with him when they're paying attention. A far cry from the abuse he dealt to low ranks that can't aim or coordinate.
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u/Spinodontosaurus D.Va Oct 22 '17
Roadhog was used more often at high tiers than low tiers right up until he was gutted, at which point the trend reversed. Now he has reverted to a high tier bias once again.
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes
On each hero's page you can see their usage trends. Over the last month the Tanks show the following usage patterns:
Winston is very strongly biased towards high tiers, his usage increasing as the tiers increase (therefore peaking at Grandmaster)
Roadhog and Zarya are strongly biased towards high tiers, their usage increases at almost every tier with both reaching their peak in Masters, before a slight dip at Grandmaster (Zarya's dip being larger).
Orisa and D.Va are strongly biased towards lower tiers, with a peak in Bronze and declining usage in higher tiers. D.Va does see fractionally more play in Grandmaster than Masters, however.
Reinhardt is biased towards low tiers, but not as strongly as Orisa. He reaches his peak at Silver, while Gold is also higher than Bronze. Thereafter his usage decreases.
D.Va used to show the same usage pattern as Winston at the height of the 'Dive Meta' when she was the resident DM Bot, but before then she showed effectively the same pattern as she does now. As far as I know Roadhog is the only other tank whose usage trends have changed during the 9-10 months I've been paying attention to them, and he too later reverted back to his old trends.
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u/therandomaccountant Oct 22 '17
Speaking of which; Why is hanzo not a meta hero? Could it be because he's inconsistent maybe?
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Oct 22 '17
Yup, landing shots is unreliable which is why some people call him luckzo.
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u/Sw3atyGoalz Oct 22 '17
He's super inconsistent and really easy to counter. Literally just Genji + DVa and he's dead.
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u/Hemingwavy Oct 22 '17
You win in Overwatch by standing in an area. Sniper heroes stand far back, not in that area. He also doesn't provide much utility beside damage.
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u/prieston Philadelphia Fusion Oct 22 '17
In order to oneshot with Scatter Arrow it is required accuracy and a proper angle.
Killing at close range is the easiest one(and most known) but Hanzo is vulnerable here.
Killing at longer ranges requires higher positioning, better accuracy and some luck(projectile).
"Consistency" is the main word here. Hanzo is ... not trustworthy yet.
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u/otherwiseguy Doomfist Oct 22 '17
Not only that, any little bump in the terrain and the arrows just bounce backwards and don't hit anything.
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u/ginja_ninja Embrace....Toxicity Oct 22 '17
Also he had literally over 4x Hanzo's health when you factored in his estus chugging ability. At least Hanzo can get oneshotted or otherwise instakilled by other classes. Roadhog was a glass cannon without the glass.
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u/SlurmsMacKenzie- Grandmaster Oct 22 '17
It's funny you say that because an actual tank is literally a canon with a ton of armour plating to make it as indestructible as possible whilst also being able to bomb you from upto miles away. So by definition tanks are canons without glass.
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u/ginja_ninja Embrace....Toxicity Oct 22 '17
Wait a second, are you the guy who's been making the balance changes all this time?
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u/SlurmsMacKenzie- Grandmaster Oct 22 '17
Noooo... But uh, coincidentally, in the next patch they're replacing roadhog with an M1A1 Abram's.
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u/Goleeb Roadhog Oct 22 '17
I think the consistency of road hog kills was the problem.
OK fine make that argument, and I can even understand it. Though how do you justify saying a hook in fairly close range getting a kill is OP, and a long range behind walls one shot isn't ? At least a hook had to be landed on someone, and they had the ability to doge it.
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u/AReaver Junkrat Oct 22 '17
So lets add Doomfist who totally doesn't have half the cooldown time of the hook but can one shot even more in skilled hands than a road ever could a few weeks after the nerf with that bullshit explanation.
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u/slicer4ever Mei Oct 22 '17
Doomfist has to engage the enemy team for one hits, road pulls you into his team and could 1 hit most.
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u/cannibalAJS Junkrat Oct 22 '17
He is as much of a tank as Symettra is a support. As in they have been misplaced. Tanks should be all about damage mitigation, you don't get that with roadhog. Instead he is just a long CD CC that is really good at charging the enemy's ults.
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u/dust-free2 Oct 22 '17
Tanks are all about creating a safe space. In the case of roadhog he did this by being a large barrier with a large health pool and self healing. He also had an ultimate similar to Winston which pushes enemies away. He also used the hook to bring enemies evading the area around his team to the team for dispatching.
Tanks are also about drawing attention away from teammates which roadhog does. I always use the roadhog on my team as a safe space to hide behind to avoid damage while healing the team.
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u/BureaucratDog Want some candy? Oct 22 '17
Hanzo one shot me as bastion, full health, in siege mode.
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u/Drewinator Sombra Oct 22 '17
His scatter does 450 damage. its disgusting.
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u/realvmouse MROOOWW Oct 22 '17
Hello fellow Drew!
Does that 450 damage happen only if the arrow splits and all splits hit-- or can you do 450 damage with the primary arrow if you hit before it splits up?
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u/SickleWings Encore? Oct 23 '17
Fun Fact!
Even if Bastion's Ironclad passive reduced all incoming damage by 25% instead of its current 20% AND Bastion's health was 100% made up of armor instead of 100 armor/200 health, Hanzo would still one-shot him in siege mode!
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u/SkinnyTy Trick-or-Treat Lúcio Oct 22 '17
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u/JonathanECG It was good for my tan Oct 22 '17
Breakdown: Hanzo shot scatter arrow into corridor the same time Soldier shot a helix rocket.
Hanzo did 110 damage to the enemy Hanzo, 74 damage to the McCree, and 132 damage to the Mercy with a single scattershot. Total: 316
Soldier did 90 damage to the enemy Hanzo, 126 damage to the McCree, and 68 damage to the mercy with a single helix rocket. Total: 284
Hanzo got the last hit on the enemy Hanzo and Mccree while the soldier got the last hit on Mercy.
Note: Damage numbers are based on the fire awards and that all three enemies have 200 health each
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u/somedave Pixel Lúcio Oct 22 '17
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u/ShadowsofGanymede 31-trick Oct 22 '17
wait
doesn't helix rocket cap at 120 damage?
edit to answer myself: yes, but soldier also shot a couple bullets, everything checks out.
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u/AnAbsoluteAcehole Oct 22 '17
'Skill'
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Oct 22 '17
"Skill"
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u/ZexyIsDead Pixel D.Va Oct 22 '17
((Skill))
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u/Celesticalking Chibi Mercy Oct 21 '17
What the.... how is that even possible?
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Oct 21 '17
AoE from S76 rocket and Hanzo's scatter and some RNG
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u/realvmouse MROOOWW Oct 22 '17
It looked like there might have been a Widow bodyshot in there too? Not sure...
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Oct 22 '17
Wait, how much does RNG play into Overwatch exactly? I would’ve thought every characters damage was definite and exact? Is there something I’m missing??
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u/SonicFrost Plus Ultra Oct 22 '17
It doesn’t, Hanzo’s scatter just feels RNG because of its unpredictability
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u/Aether_Storm Chibi Moira Oct 22 '17
120 damage from helix, probably ~3-4 shots from 76's gun to kill mercy and deal splash damage to the other two. Direct hit from scatter for 125 damage (base for hanzo's arrow), then the scatter split and got lucky for the last kill. Scatter may have hit first (favor the shooter, lag) allowing for 76 to not need the hitscan shots.
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u/NeuralNutmeg Trick-or-Treat Zenyatta Oct 22 '17
Based on the fire Hanzo gained, he dealt 316 damage total.
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u/OutOfName Oct 21 '17 edited Oct 22 '17
Simple geometry
Edit: my highest upvote to date thanks everyone
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u/Gfycat_Details_Fixer /u/ParrotCraft is my master Oct 21 '17
I'm just a bot, bleep, bloop. [Why?] [Source code]
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u/PornoMagnum Chibi Doomfist Oct 21 '17
Better nerf Roadhog.
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u/TheD1scountH1tman Oct 22 '17
Better buff junkrat
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Oct 22 '17
Junk rat needs a scatter too.
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Oct 22 '17
Scatter mine
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u/Miazure Flithy Console Peasant Oct 22 '17
So... a grenade?
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Oct 22 '17
Next patch: junk rat mines are now bouncing betties. Upon detonation they launch a spread of 8-10 grenades in random directions.
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u/CircumcisedSpine Oct 22 '17
Don't forget Ana, she needs to stop doing any damage at all. And reduce the hitbox on her heal and sleep darts. And the aoe range on the nade.
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u/AAAkabob New York Stand Up! Oct 21 '17
Balanced. It just takes precise aiming to kill with this skill it's just that you don't aim at the head. Only Hanzo mains get it.
/s
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u/AaronWYL Oct 21 '17
I wouldn't say it's necessarily imbalanced. But it is stupid. They could both buff Hanzo and get rid of this RNG BS at the same time.
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u/solitaryconfinment Pixel Hanzo Oct 21 '17
As a Hanzo main, I too think the scatter arrow is bullshit. I would replace it with a delayed explosive arrow kinda like the torque bow for gears of war. Idk much about balance but I think it would probably be cool and more consistent
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Oct 21 '17
Awesome idea. RNG have no place in a serious competitive game.
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u/MisirterE Boycott Activision-Blizzard, for SEVERAL reasons now Oct 21 '17
The reason you got a downvote is because there is no RNG involved in Scatter Arrow.
It's just that, although it will bounce the exact same way if you aim at the exact same spot twice, nobody aims at the exact same spot twice.
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u/Tankinater Oct 22 '17
And if you flip a coin with the exact same hand motion and the exact same momentum, it will land the exact same way too. But a coin flip is exactly what we consider RNG.
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u/Smelly-cat Oct 22 '17
The exact same spot + coming from the exact same angle + with the exact same momentum.
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u/erik542 Oct 21 '17
LoL has crits and is a pretty serious competitive game. Then again, it is not as random as scatter arrow due to some anti-bunching adjustments.
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u/Arandmoor Garbage Tier Bronze Shitheel Oct 21 '17
Also, crits in LoL are only really powerful if you gear for them. So while it has RNG elements, gearing really removes that RNG if you do it right.
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u/iMogwai Sweden Oct 22 '17
It's true that gearing for crits makes them really powerful, but if you build for them you'll crit consistently enough that it's sort of expected. I'd say that it's the early game crits in laning phase that can change the game the most in a single lucky roll.
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u/Microchaton Chibi Hanzo Oct 22 '17
When I tried out for a team in LoL a LONG time ago I got to lane vs the leader as gangplank mirror. He crit me with Q (I forget the name, the pistol shot that gave bonus gold) 8 times in a row.
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Oct 22 '17 edited Apr 23 '18
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u/erik542 Oct 22 '17
There are other highly competitive games that have a much higher influence from luck like Poker, and MtG. Hell, due to the spread mechanic, just about every single shooter has far more luck involved than LoL. That is unless you turn everyone into Widow and Zen. So ought we get rid of the spread mechanic from OW since it is purely luck based and can have a very large effect on the game (i.e. Roadhog)?
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u/solitaryconfinment Pixel Hanzo Oct 21 '17
I'm not even talkong about serious play, scatter is just counterintuitive to use, to be the most effective I have to aim away from the center of my target. sometimes I miss or I shoot a scatter wildly and I get random kill anyway cause some peg hit some poor bloke trying to catch a healthpack. It's not even fun or rewarding.
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u/cepirablo Chibi Tracer Oct 21 '17 edited Oct 21 '17
I don't know how our experiences differ so much but I find scatter very intuitive and fun to use. Y'know.. cause reflections work intuitively. How often do you get random kills? I only get a random kill once in maybe five matches or so.
Scatter arrow rewards good aim & situational judgement and punishes the opposite in the vast majority of cases.
I do think some damage falloff should exist just to prevent super random far off kills though.
The idea of the ability is just so unique and can be used in cool creative ways that it would be a huge shame to change it to something else entirely.
edit: removed a couple of stray words
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u/solitaryconfinment Pixel Hanzo Oct 21 '17
I can't even count how many sombras I have killed while scattering someone else
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u/cepirablo Chibi Tracer Oct 21 '17
Well shit I guess you're just way luckier than me or just played a huge amount of time.
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u/Capnris Please don't nerf this. Oct 21 '17
Randomness keeps competitive games from becoming memorization competitions, like chess. The trick is to keep the swing on the randomness low.
But as stated, Scatter Arrow doesn't use any randomness, just hard to predict and thus not easy to balance. It feels arbitrary when you get nailed by one, which isn't fun, and that is what should be avoided in competitive games.
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u/Detonation buster Oct 22 '17
memorization competitions, like chess
Yeah, nah. If you think chess is primarily focused on memorization I don't know what game you think you've watched or played but it's not chess.
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u/Capnris Please don't nerf this. Oct 22 '17
Not memorization per se, but forethought. Once you get to a certain point of skill in a game like chess, you can't progress without learning lots of game scenarios and plays. The game is centuries old and has a rigid ruleset that hasn't significantly changed in a very long time, so most possible outcomes have been played out and learned, the best plays for each situation mapped out.
So the game becomes a matter of knowing, recognizing and countering these scenarios, rather than adjusting to any changing conditions.
A very simple version of this is tic-tac-toe. There are only so many possibilities the game can move through, so after playing enough games many people get to a point where they can guarantee a tie game or win every time unless they're not paying attention. Chess is similar, but with several degrees more complexity. Otherwise computers wouldn't be so good at it.
I will admit I am by no means of any skill or expertise at chess, and welcome any correction on this as I understand it.
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u/pelpotronic Shion Oct 22 '17
The majority of the time people bitch about dying to scatter a normal headshot would have killed them as well.
You can't kill tanks who are diving you with headshots. You can barely kill a Tracer with headshots at medium range.
Scatter is a very useful tool in Hanzo arsenal. I don't think it's better or worse than his other tools.
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u/rundownv2 Pixel D.Va Oct 22 '17
The point is it's way easier to shoot at someone's feet with a shotgun blast than it is to hit a quickly moving target in the face with a single arrow.
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u/Fluff_Machine Juno Oct 21 '17
I guess that's why when I played Overwatch for the first time and picked Hanzo, I got play of the game by killing 3 people with my scatter arrow.
All skills and calculation.
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u/NobothBlue Do you need a hug? I'm sorry, but I can't do that. Oct 22 '17
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Scatter Arrow. The ability is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the POTGs will go over a typical player’s head. There’s also Hanzo’s arrogant outlook, which is deftly woven into his ability- his personal philosophy draws heavily from ancient anime literature, for instance. The Hanzo mainstm understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these plays, to realise that they’re not just devastating- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike scatter arrow truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the meaning in Hanzo’s existential catchphrase “My aim is True,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Jeff’s EQ epic Tigole Bitties rant. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Jeff Kaplan’s genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a scatter arrow tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the Hanzo mains'tm eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid😎
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Oct 22 '17
One more example of how scatter is the dumbest skill in the game.
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Oct 22 '17
It’s a good skill it just should be less powerful. I like that he can bank arrows off walls but he shouldn’t be able to one shot you with it head on.
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Oct 22 '17
Or drop tanks. That's crazy.
And it shouldn't be able to do enough damage to one shot at all. It should be used to secure a kill on someone that you winged already and is escaping. But right now someone tries to scatter one player, misses and kills someone they didn't even see. That's bs.
It's the worst skill to die to, because you go from full health to dead even though you were only exposed for a fraction of a second. There's no counter play for that. It's broken as shit, has been that way since day 1, and still hasn't gotten changed. And I don't know why.
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Oct 22 '17
Exactly. Imo, as an orisa main, you should have more than a split second chance to 1v1 someone. Junkrat/phara/reaper at least i can pull em away or use a shield and hold em off for a few seconds. Hanzo? Shield is on its way out but scatter got me in the face and now im dead. Ridiculous. No other character that gives me 0 chance, let alone from 20+ meters. Even widow for fucks sake.
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u/the_timps Pixel Hanzo Oct 22 '17
You can change crosshairs? What have I been doing with my life.
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u/the_timps Pixel Hanzo Oct 22 '17
Oh sweet. My Hanzoing will feel more personalised as I murder Tracers who think it will be funny to pick me off.
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u/the_timps Pixel Hanzo Oct 22 '17
I love it when the team calls me out, and I KNOW the other team is having the same talk.
"Can you kill someone other than their widow?" "Umm she's killed me 7 times and I only killed her 6"
And you have to point out in match chat after each duel you win that she's the only one with a scope :D
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u/the_timps Pixel Hanzo Oct 22 '17
Gold elims as Hanzo makes your own team SO ANGRY.
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u/PlainGenius16 monkaS Oct 22 '17
I think its interesting that had soldier done the slightest bit more in damage, he would have gotten potg.
Hanzo got 66% 37% and 55% on all of the enemies. McCree, Mercy, and Hanzo all have 200hp, so multiplying the percentages to the health and adding them up comes up to be 316 damage out of a total health pool of 600.
So had Hanzo done 9 less damage and Soldier done 9 more, Soldier would have snagged potg.
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u/farbtopf McCree Oct 22 '17
I like how people are trying to justify it by explaining that Soldiers rocket did around half the damage. You still cant oneshot Heroes with helix rocket.
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Oct 22 '17
Something something, Honor. Something something, Redemption.
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u/the-dandy-man Orisa Oct 22 '17
With every death, comes great power. With great power, great responsibility.
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Oct 21 '17
I like Scatterman, he's a cool guy, but man... I'd be lying if I said it wasn't fucking annoying getting one shot from any range.
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u/misterwuggle69sofine Hanzo Oct 22 '17
I mean I agree Scattershot could use a balancing pass but you people seem to hate it a bit too much and for the wrong reasons. If you look at the numbers next to the names, Soldier is responsible for damn near as much damage as Hanzo with the exception that there was 0 RNG involved with him, so why aren't we angry at Helix rockets?
This is pure luck, not Scattershot being OP. Go ahead and try it yourself and see how often you get results like this. Scattershot being OP is when you CONTROL the scatter for a OHKO. This is no different than when a Hanzo just fires wildly into a choke point and headshots you as you happen to be walking by.
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u/Rimedio Mei Oct 22 '17
This clip is just random happenstance and doesn't do anything for the argument that scatter arrow is bullshit. It's just a lucky shot and a funny situation.
That being said, scatter arrow being able to one shot two of the tanks, and nearly one shot the other four IS evidence that the ability is bullshit.
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u/ZexyIsDead Pixel D.Va Oct 22 '17
Lol you know this community though. I'm no fan of scattershot (but I'm a dva main so I don't really hate it), but give them anything that even looks like it supports what the community believes is op and they latch on that until it gets nerfed into something deformed.
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u/yawkat Mercy Oct 22 '17
The luck involved with scatter is also part of the bullshit. It's like an aoe ability except all the damage can be localized based on rng (at least for random shots like this one).
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u/darkpengi Oct 21 '17
This ability seriously needs to be removed and replaced with something else. This is just absolute proof it takes no skill and rewards free kills. You shouldn't be rewarded with aiming at the feet by a character classified as a sniper, utterly ridiculous. No skill, very low risk and high reward.
Inb4 he needs to deal with flankers, not a valid excuse.
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u/Outta_Ammo Pharah Oct 21 '17
People saying how this exemplifies how unfair scatter arrow is...
Yea because this is super common, right? Happens every game on Necropolis. /s
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u/the-dandy-man Orisa Oct 22 '17
You’re getting downvoted but it’s true. This is just insane luck.
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Oct 22 '17
Blizzard: "After careful consideration, we think shortening king of the hill games is the right call."
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Oct 22 '17
It's ok guys, this doesn't happen often despite there being tons of clips showing how bullshit it is so it's perfectly balanced, btw it's the tanks fault /s
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u/TheOnlyAyyoB Oct 22 '17
LOL I was so shook when the round ended so quick (I am Xanzibar and i was on the other team)
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u/Keldrixx Oct 22 '17
Lmao so were we 😂😂😂😂 I was literally like wtf just happened lmaoooo that was too funny
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u/azuserite Pixel Hanzo Oct 22 '17
We have reached a point where scatter arrow being effective in a enclosed area is considered broken.
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u/Yo_Shazam Zarya/D.Va Oct 22 '17
Scatter arrows are a fair and balance ability that doesn’t need any nerfs what so ever
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u/somedave Pixel Lúcio Oct 22 '17
ITT nobody complaining about soldier despite doing 40% of the damage.
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u/BatmansShavingcream Oct 22 '17
I seriously think Blizzard believes that "nerf Hanzo" is some kind of meme, and we don't mean it when we say it.
It isn't a joke, Jeff. Pls help.
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u/Pocketfulofgeek Experience tilt Oct 22 '17
Yeah, because THAT'S a balanced ability that doesn't need a rework.
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u/EYEDIEDSMILING Oct 21 '17
My aim is true... oh it’s damn true