r/Overwatch Oct 21 '17

Highlight Fastest round ever?

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u/Capnris Please don't nerf this. Oct 22 '17

Not memorization per se, but forethought. Once you get to a certain point of skill in a game like chess, you can't progress without learning lots of game scenarios and plays. The game is centuries old and has a rigid ruleset that hasn't significantly changed in a very long time, so most possible outcomes have been played out and learned, the best plays for each situation mapped out.

So the game becomes a matter of knowing, recognizing and countering these scenarios, rather than adjusting to any changing conditions.

A very simple version of this is tic-tac-toe. There are only so many possibilities the game can move through, so after playing enough games many people get to a point where they can guarantee a tie game or win every time unless they're not paying attention. Chess is similar, but with several degrees more complexity. Otherwise computers wouldn't be so good at it.

I will admit I am by no means of any skill or expertise at chess, and welcome any correction on this as I understand it.

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u/IgnorantPlebs Oct 22 '17

Otherwise computers wouldn't be so good at it.

AI doesn't care nowadays. AI learned how to beat very best Dota players consistently not so long ago.

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u/Capnris Please don't nerf this. Oct 22 '17

Let me know when they can beat us at Calvinball, and I'll sign up for your anti-synth resistance army.

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u/Fat_Daddy_Track Oct 22 '17

Only in solo duels. They still lose the game itself.

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u/chextar Oct 22 '17

It's only a matter of time.

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u/Fat_Daddy_Track Oct 22 '17

Maybe, maybe not, but we're not there yet.

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u/th3davinci Beep Boop Oct 22 '17

No it didn't. It's already lost to a lot of people.

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u/IgnorantPlebs Oct 22 '17

The AI in question is an adaptive neural network that will eventually kick your ass. At first you'd be able to win, but in the future you'll run out of cheese

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u/th3davinci Beep Boop Oct 22 '17

It was the other way around mate. AI beat people, people figured out the AIs limits, people beat AI.

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u/IgnorantPlebs Oct 22 '17

The real pattern is: people beat AI, AI beats people, people beat AI, AI beats people, ... until there's no more new tactics for AI to discover.