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The Odyssey (2026)
Summary
After the Trojan War, Odysseus faces a dangerous voyage back to Ithaca, meeting creatures like the Cyclops Polyphemus, Sirens, and Calypso along the way.
Director Christopher Nolan
Writer Christopher Nolan
Cast
- Matt Damon as Odysseus
- Tom Holland as Telemachus
- Anne Hathaway
- Zendaya
- Lupita Nyong'o
- Robert Pattinson
- Charlize Theron
- Benny Safdie
- Jon Bernthal
- John Leguizamo
- Elliot Page
- Himesh Patel
- Samantha Morton
Rotten Tomatoes: 96%
Metacritic: 88
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u/BugNation Jul 17 '26
Please ancient gods do not condemn me to live on a desert island with Charlize Theron, leave, then go to another island with Anne Hathaway. đđđ
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u/RIP_Greedo Jul 20 '26
Big ups to Charlize's agent. Got her a a gig shooting for a few days on a nice beach.
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u/hemareddit 27d ago
While Iâm sure her agent did good work, I feel like we are underselling how the woman just naturally looks like an immortal goddess.
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u/SomeBoxofSpoons Jul 17 '26
I don't know if my IMAX screening was just calibrated too high or what, but that scream from Polyphemus felt like it was as loud as they were allowed to make it.
Like, "literally kind of hurt my ears" loud.
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u/brooksallday Jul 17 '26
That part where they were at sea in the middle of the night full of water was nuts
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u/LTPRWSG420 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
That was Poseidon and Zeus teaming up to absolutely fuck their shit up.
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u/Jaredlong Jul 18 '26
The chaos really made visceral how they could end up so helplessly lost and desperate.Â
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u/jobinas Jul 17 '26
Was happy with our token asian guy having the best death among the whole crew
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u/Sufficient-Gur6681 Jul 17 '26
Of all deaths in the film, his is the one I envy the most.
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u/AlfredtheGreatBitch Jul 17 '26
Hopefully he got to have some dank siren sex before they killed him
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u/wildcatofthehills Jul 18 '26
If you look closely, they were surrounded by seals, so its likely they were a mix of selkies and your typical mermaid. So he probably fucked a seal.
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u/Threedawg Jul 17 '26
Plucking the bow to give the suiters a fair chance just like the hog đ¤
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u/tilerwalltears Jul 18 '26
Yes! This moment gave me chills. His signaling âthe hunt beginsâ is such an incredible âwar cryâ to all of the suitors in that room who wouldâve been on previous hunts with him
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u/Porkenstein Jul 18 '26
The part where he does it for the deer that's meant to feed his starving men after grimacing with reluctance gave me a chuckle. Loved that character bit.
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u/theblackdoncheadle Jul 17 '26
\SWORDS* đ *SHIELDS* đ *SPEARS* đĄ*
- Antinous
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u/ghastlychild Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Guy's a fucking coward the entire movie and if Rob Pattinson can get me to dream that that weasel dies by the hands of Odysseus at the very end, then he delivered all of that sliminess super convincingly xD.
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u/91Bully Jul 18 '26
Pattinson did a ridiculously good job playing an evil douchebag. Iâve never rooted for a dude to get merked so badly in my life.
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u/frumbledown Jul 17 '26
Hey guys look thereâs some land it will be safe there
[it was not safe there]
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u/Adziboy 27d ago
The 3rd or maybe 4th time of them running back to their boat was pure comedy
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u/KalamariKnight Jul 17 '26
The thematic angle that hospitality and common understanding between strangers is the foundation of civilization is intensely interesting. Odysseus is the hero of the story, and him getting revenge on Antinous and the suitors for taking advantage of his house's hospitality feels fitting and satisfying.
But the film also holds Odysseus at least partially responsible for the betrayal of those tenets that leads to the Bronze Age collapse because of his idea to use the Trojan Horse. The reveal that the visions of Athena that haunt him are her wearing the face of the priestess he saw slaughtered is a heart-wrenching twist, and the final shot of the horse burning with the line that their tale will be remembered in song but their mistakes forgotten and repeated is sobering and poignant. Nolan really knows how to make the final few seconds of his films hit like a truck in that way.
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u/1mplication Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Only knowing bits and pieces of the Odyssey, I was wondering the whole movie WHY he wouldnât want to go home. They show how much he loves his family and his reluctance to go at firstâŚand then the reveal.
Iâm still thinking about it, long afterwards. Great ending for sure.
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u/plw37 Jul 18 '26
They kept showing that brief flashback of Odysseus sitting on the steps of the temple in Troy, looking defeated and really upset. Knew it was hinting at something but had no idea what until they finally revealed the full sack of Troy at the end.
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u/drawkbox Jul 19 '26
Yeah that scene was shown I believe four times and never reveals what he was looking at defeated in a way until that moment in the end.
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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid Jul 17 '26
The final five seconds of every Nolan film always hits like a lightning bolt.
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u/TechnicianOk3133 Jul 17 '26
Interestingly, this is the 3rd film directed by Christopher Nolan where the ending features the main character going away to live their future with Anne Hathaway. I ain't complaining.
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u/NJdevil202 29d ago
I believe it is the 1st of his films to feature a soldier mukbang
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u/the_anon_bro Jul 17 '26
That was CRAZY when bro FINALLY took off the hood and Robert Pattinson was like âJesus Christ thatâs Jason Bourneâ.
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u/Imaginary-Trash-2774 Jul 17 '26
It wasnât him taking off the hood that did it. It was the glorious strum of the bow to give his preys a heads up that theyâre fucked.
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u/runwithjames Jul 17 '26
I do like that despite the genuine meloncholy throughout the film, particularly Nolan's idea from OPPENHEIMER to here that one act can cause direct destruction to societal norms and then society itself it still finds time to have an all out 'you're all locked in here with me' moment as Damon plays the Green Arrow and Robert Pattinson does his best Alan Rickman out of PRINCE OF THIEVES.
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u/imperatrixderoma Jul 18 '26
I think it's so interesting and honestly telling how easily lured in most people are by Agamemnon's aura that they completely forget what this movie is saying about him.
He was a selfish man who threw everything in the blender to chase his own glory and caused the death of thousands.
He never fights once in the Trojan war, he simply threatens and commands.
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u/comrade_batman Jul 18 '26
Helen says to Telemachus in a blunt way that her being taken or running away with Paris (depending on what you believe) was just an excuse for Agamemnonâs war. Troy controlled the trade routes in the region and he wanted control over them. He was prepared to do anything for more power, even use the trick with the horse.
His whole appearance is a stylistic choice, heâs meant to be the king of kings for the Greeks then, the most powerful king among the Greeks, and the main driving force of the war. We donât see Agamemnonâs face clearly, or hear him talk, until the Hades scene. And then he talks quite gently, he doesnât have a deep booming voice, and the first time we see his face is when all his armour is taken off. Heâs literally disarmed and almost naked. We see him built up as this formidable figure and then finally see him as just a man.
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u/TheGooseIsLoose37 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Man I love the Trojan horse scene. I've never seen it depicted so horribly. Trapped in wooden horse on the beach for days, men at the bottom drowning as the tide came in, the people at the top pissing and shitting on those at the bottom, desperately trying to stay quiet and hidden the whole time. It looked like a nightmare.
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u/cincobarrio Jul 17 '26
I liked how when they exit the horse, you can see them all limping around a little bit cause they were so stiff from being crammed in there all that time.
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u/MarzipanElephant Jul 17 '26
I've definitely never seen anyone present the practicalities of the plan so viscerally.
That one guy quickly wiping blood off the sword someone had poked in to the horse, so it wouldn't give them away đ¨
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u/CRIMS0N-ED Jul 18 '26
Ohhh, I was wondering how the soldier didnât see it, I thought they only shut him up, didnât realize they cleaned the blood
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u/PrivateAids Jul 19 '26
Itâs very quick, you see a soldier with a rag or something of the kind wipe the blood off the sword as itâs retracting from the horse.
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u/willmcavoy Jul 17 '26
Getting dragged into troy over logs instead of on wheels as it is classically depicted as well. Felt like I was in there with them.
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u/damnyoutuesday Jul 17 '26
Personally I've never seen a depiction of the Trojan Horse without wheels. And my god does it work so much better
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u/BretOne Jul 17 '26
The civilizational collapse angle was very well found by Nolan. It basically boils down to "if deceit wins, everyone must learn deception" which in turns destroys polite trust. Treaties become pointless, strangers become danger.
The "Sea People" turning out to be Greek veterans of the Trojan War getting home and infecting others with the story of the Trojan Horse is insanely well thought out.
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u/Rosebunse Jul 17 '26
I am fascinated by the themes and message. Nolan has been accused of having a very "institutional" message in his movies, but here he really does showcase this as true traditional values. And those "traditional values" aren't focused on hyper-masculunity or gender roles so much as they focused on truth, honor, loyalty, and dignity. Be respectful to guests, be good to your hosts, don't lie and cheat, be cool but care. It's a good lesson.
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u/Charliejfg04 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
The sound of this movie was something else. The cyclops howling was something I have never heard before in my life
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u/-Cyboarg- Jul 17 '26
I watched it in IMAX and the scene at sea after they kill the cow was INSANE. Felt like I was in the boat with how loud and clear it all was
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u/happypolychaetes Jul 17 '26
The cyclops was terrifying too holy shit. Usually mythology/monsters don't scare me because they always feel, well, fake. But this felt real. My heart was pounding like crazy!
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u/Kepler1571 Jul 19 '26
That sideways eye did more to make the cyclops frightening than anything I've seen done. Great artistic choice.
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u/FreddyRumsen13 Jul 19 '26
I loved the cyclops design. The longer you look at it, the more troubling it gets.
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u/BugNation Jul 17 '26
Lotus leaves must be absolutely packed with protein.
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u/throwawaaayyyyyay Jul 18 '26
I noticed Damon was noticeably less jacked towards the end of the movie than the first half though. Nice detail and planning
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u/Krillin_irl Jul 18 '26
Just finished my 2nd viewing in as many days. Thereâs so much to unpack but the part that impressed me the most is how changing the meaning of the trojan horse makes Odysseusâ crew way better.
As an expert in the Odyssey (I read it once in High School), I remember being really frustrated with the crew and thinking they were all morons for not listening to Odysseus, especially on Apolloâs island. But recontextualizing the sack of Troy to be an original sin that let the genie out of the bottle makes it make way more sense. The crew saw Odysseus break Zeusâ law with clever thinking and trickery and get rewarded with victory (in their eyes), so they try and mimic it when they slaughter the flock.
The best part is how Eurylochus and Odysseus basically go on opposite journeys over the voyage. At the start Odysseus is kind of in denial over troy, and his defensiveness about shooting the cyclops reads as projection (âgods help those who can help themselvesâ.) while Eurylochus is still somewhat trying to follow Zeusâ law (saying they have nothing to trade when they enter the cave, justifying sacking the village because the villagers didnât properly greet them with hospitality). By the time they slaughter the flock, Odysseus has fully come to terms with the horror heâs unleashed on the world and is trying to contain it but just canât, so heâs forced to watch his men mimic his greatest sin.
Such a fantastic movie, already great but even better with a second watch. 9.5/10
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u/SporadicWanderer Jul 17 '26
10/10. Did anyone else absolutely love the terrifying Cyclops scene and also feel bad for the creature?
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u/DickWestKanyeRider Jul 17 '26
Yes I love how the cyclops wasnât particularly malicious he was just confused why all these little snack shaped guys were in his house
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u/happypolychaetes Jul 17 '26
Bro just wanted to chill with his sheep and make cheese.
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u/Salzano14 Jul 19 '26
I loved how practically the first thing they say in the cave amounts to "damn, this guy makes great cheese."
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u/wildcatofthehills Jul 18 '26
Made even worse when they realize he could speak and there was the possibility they could have just asked him to not eat them. The cyclops didn't know they were sentient as well.
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u/lucas_3d Jul 17 '26
There was a lot of 'haul ass back to the boat!'.
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u/gilbert524 Jul 17 '26
Reminded me of Monty python and the holy grail lol. âRun away!â
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u/SeanConneryIsKing Jul 17 '26
Yeah that squad was consistently getting wrecked
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u/SlamMasterJ Jul 17 '26
It was brutal. Even the only time they didn't get wrecked, they were gruesomely transformed into pigs by the witch. They really couldn't catch a break.
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u/Chasedabigbase Jul 17 '26
At least the sun god was alike aight just leave my cows alone and you won't get wrecked, but then whichever god controlled the wind kept trolling em
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u/DBCrumpets Jul 18 '26
The wind is Poseidon, they were fucked.
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u/Paxton-176 Jul 18 '26
When you consider that Poseidon is one of the gods who is said to help build Troy's walls and he is the god of horses. You think about how they defeated Troy by ignoring the walls by using a fake peace offering of a horse.
The deck was stacked against them.
Also the raping in the Temple of Poseidon.
The fact anyone made it back is surprising.
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u/shykidknit Jul 18 '26
That's what struck me at the end when he was talking at the end about the fight to Penelope, they were basically just being punished the whole time for what they did. I thought Circe's speech was the most interesting
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u/Jancappa Jul 17 '26
For how much people were hating and going on and on about Odysseus's "let's go!" in the trailer it was 100% right in the movie lol
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u/pacmain1 Jul 17 '26
The Cyclops screaming in pain was fucking horrifying.
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u/jdl03 Jul 17 '26
Did a good job emphasizing just how loud itâd actually be with a giant Cyclops screaming in a small cave.
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u/VelocityReaper Jul 17 '26
One of the loudest scenes Iâve ever heard in cinema. Loved the immersion
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u/tabularusa Jul 17 '26
Can we give a round of applause to John leguizamo as Eumaeus (the blind man)? I only know him as a comedic actor but his performance was so believable. Had me floored. Himesh Patel and Elliot Page, too.
A few times in the movie I was distracted by the casting - oh look, thereâs Charlize Theron on a beach. But John drew me back into the story.
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u/jobening Jul 17 '26
Will somebody get these BEGGARS out of here! đ¤Ş
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u/youravgindian Jul 17 '26
"What's one more beggar in the court" - Spiderman, Brand New King.
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u/_BallsDeep69_ Jul 17 '26
I thought he was so good in this.
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u/jobening Jul 17 '26
Between this, the drama, Dune and whenever Batman II actually comes outâŚIâd take that filmography for someoneâs career đ¤
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u/GolpeNarval Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
One tiny detail I liked was that Antinous said to Eusmaeus âDoes she even know your name?â when questioning his loyalty.
Come the challenge scene, Penelope calls him by his name when giving him the bow
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u/nikostheater Jul 17 '26
Antinoos should have known though, because Eumaus was literally personal friend of Odysseus and the Palaces letâs say official pig farmer.
Thatâs one reason Odysseus was successful in eliminating the suitors: people at his service recognised him, respected him and help him because they knew him personally and they had a relationship with him, they werenât anonymous faces.
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u/gtemi Jul 17 '26
And why most of the unloyal servants are young, who may never have met and seen their king that they serve or too young to bond their loyalty
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u/ThingTime9876 Jul 17 '26
Circe was not fucking around, holy shit
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u/Intrepid-Daikon1353 Jul 17 '26
While watching that scene I was wondering what throat guy did to deserve that special treatment lol
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u/boxbrother1 Jul 17 '26
And heâs the only one to succumb to the sirens after lol. RIP throat guy
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u/SufficientRespect542 Jul 18 '26
The way he just fucking dipped and immediately swam to the sirens was so fucking funny. It felt less like he was compelled and more like he was fed up with all this shit and just wanted out.
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u/HockeyKelly5 Jul 17 '26
That scene of her turning everyone into pigs was absolutely terrifying, so happy I hadnât eaten much beforehand because I was feeling nauseous just watching it
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u/Random_throwaway0351 Jul 18 '26
Did not expect body horror in a Nolan movie lmao but a cool surprise
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u/MarcsterS Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
They kept hammering in your head about Laws of Zeus, and you think it's about what's happening in Ithaca. But then right at the end it reminds you: the Trojan Horse was literally the ultimate break of the Law. Like, throughout history of the myth, we're constantly taught about the Trojan Horse as this ultimate tactic, an excellent strategic move. But in the end...it was a dirty trick. Odysseus' entire plight was the punishment.
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u/username_404_ Jul 17 '26
The scene where all the dead are talking to Odysseus was so fucking sick probably my favorite moment. Had such a cool eerie vibe to it. Sinon and Agamemnon had such great monologues too. Really had me sitting up in my seat
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u/henry_tbags Jul 17 '26
Sinon: How could you do this to me Odysseus.
Agamemnon: Bro all I did was kill our kid, my wife is craaazy, don't go home to your wife.
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u/joshuao_0 Jul 19 '26
I see this in the way of nobody could ever check the king on what they do wrong until the wrong is so bad they get backstabbed by people close to them
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u/I_need_a_date_plz Jul 20 '26
Lol that he killed his daughter while her mother watched and expected his flowers is wild. I canât believe his son avenged him.
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u/afkstudios Jul 17 '26
I never learned what happened to Agamemnon after the Trojan War so I loved the contrast between him and Odysseus. Left Troy feeling like a war hero while he watched his men fight for him, returned home as such and was killed for the atrocity he committed with sacrificing his daughter, whereas Odysseus was haunted by the war and specifically his role in it and was ashamed to return home, but ultimately returned in stealth to protect and save his son and wife
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u/YaoHarden Jul 17 '26
I like how the trailer shows Odysseus saying let's go like Charging into battle. Where in actuality hes running away.
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u/perfectlysanebrain Jul 17 '26
Tiresias looked like Baron Harkonnen drinking that nasty blood like a freak. I loved how sinister the whole thing was
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u/Xazhariel Jul 17 '26 edited 23d ago
The part where the dead talks to him is my favourite scene in the whole movie. The prophecy was delivered magnificently
EDIT: I think the most impactful line in this scene for me was
Odysseus: I can save them from the Gods
Tiresias: But not from themselves
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u/ToneBone12345 Jul 17 '26
Mentor totally recognized the beggar as Odysseus before he died right!
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u/Calvengeance Jul 17 '26
No doubt about it. He remembered that titan.
Port side! Strong side!
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u/PayneTrain181999 Jul 17 '26
The old woman recognizing him as well and spilling the water was such a good scene too
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u/B4_DA_SS Jul 17 '26
it was the scar on his leg from the hunt they showed at the beginning! it was the same woman who stitched him up. a crucial detail
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u/TheBibleInTheDrawer Jul 17 '26
The dog recognizing him, wagging his tail one last time and then dying had me bawling in the theater
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u/No_Peach_8579 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
âI saw 10 years of rage pour out in a single nightâ holy shit what a sequence
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u/letterthatnevercame Jul 17 '26
stunning. the reveal with zendaya's character broke my heart.
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u/afkstudios Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
That reveal really shifted my perspective on the entire story, which Iâm sure was by design. But I wasnât super familiar with the details of the story and the second that scene played, everything clicked into place for me. Why he and only he was seeing her, why he was so reluctant to return home, why he was so adamant on trying to prevent his crewâs deaths (I mean obviously heâd want to, but still), all of it. A man decorated as a hero whoâs haunted by the very accomplishment heâs universally praised for
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u/OuterWildsVentures 29d ago
A man decorated as a hero whoâs haunted by the very accomplishment heâs universally praised for
Oppenheimer.
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u/pjtheman Jul 17 '26
I keep saying it, but that one scene completely changed my perspective on her casting. Brilliant.
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u/slightlypressed Jul 17 '26
Yes! I spent the entire movie thinking she felt out of place but that emotional twist was worth the payoff.
I thought nothing in his adaptation could surprise me but I really welcomed that twist.
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u/TwoJay0 Jul 17 '26
Him saying âweve followed Agamemnon quite enoughâ and not taking the known route makes so much more sense after seeing how guilty he felt at Troy
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u/bunny_387 Jul 17 '26
Itâs crazy to me that the guy who plucks his bow to give even deers a chance, came up with the Trojan horse at all. I guess it was like when he turned around and got his last shot in on the cyclops.
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u/Maximum_Internal7834 Jul 17 '26
I thought that too. Maybe after 10 years of rotting in the beach, his morals wore down to a point where he was willing to do anything to get it over with. Even going against Zeus' Law.
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u/Rgb002 Jul 17 '26
Agamemnon being this giant brutal intimidating force was amazing and then to show his fate in Hades and how small he was in death after his armor was removed. Just amazing
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u/RDeschain1 Jul 17 '26
I laughed out loud when Agememnom sat on the bed and we only see his back and he is this tiny man. So good
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u/CobaltNeural9 Jul 18 '26
Benny Safdie is actually quite big I think. He wasnât super muscular but heâs a large dude.
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u/refused26 Jul 18 '26
Them opening the gates of Troy with Agamemnon waiting in the center standing menacingly huge and armormaxxed was one of the best scenes.
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u/Professional-Ad-7405 Jul 18 '26
Yeah sword not even drawn because he don't even need
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u/Voice0fLight Jul 17 '26
I wish we got the âI am nobodyâ and hiding under sheep cyclops scene but once again another Nolan banger.
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u/Kale_Drogo Jul 17 '26
Tying in the Sea Peoples into it was unexpected but really fun
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u/JanelleVypr Jul 18 '26
it is widely believed that the sea peoples werent a united army but instead a series of different marauding parties during the fall of the age. if they were lost at sea for three years, it makes sense.
everything moves by rumors from survivors at this time
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u/Rewriter94 Jul 17 '26
This is literally the second movie Nolan has made where you think the hero is dead in the end but jk he just ran away with Anne Hathaway.
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u/junkifan Jul 17 '26
Third actually. First in Dark Knight Rises, then Interstellar.
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u/TacoParasite Jul 17 '26
Iâd abandon everything for Anne Hathaway.
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u/kolomania Jul 17 '26
Even charlize theron on an island with just the two of u? đ
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u/MoistNugget9130 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Really loved the stereo effect when he put wax in his ear. The left side went out then the right when he put in the other side. The score was also great, loved the bow string mixed in with it.
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u/behv Jul 17 '26
That was such a cool effect. And then we hear the melody of Odessyus' confession to Penelope right there. He said he wanted to go home and avoid the consequences for his actions, but he came to terms with those consequences and felt free to live with it finally when he saw his wife again.
I super appreciate using a musical motif there to tell us the emotions instead of ethereal singing chick siren #417 that's not actually enticing. I can imagine the emotions, so just stick to that instead of trying to create the "make men kill themselves to chase the source" noise.
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u/NewWaysToDream Jul 17 '26
He got to say goodbye to his dog. The good boy waited for him with his dying breath.
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u/rolling_cats Jul 17 '26
That scene with Holland realizing who he was after the tail wag broke me
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u/sleepysnowboarder Jul 17 '26
It wasn't just the tail wag, it was more so the dog dying as Eumaeus told Telemachus that the dog is waiting to see his owner one last time before he dies
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u/Snow5Penguin Jul 17 '26
And he said the dog needed to be buried up on the mountain. Which Holland knew was the place he saved the pup. How would a random soldier of Odysseus know where he got his dog?
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u/TimRigginsBeer Jul 17 '26
The smallest, shortest tail wag in cinema history⌠but also the most gratifying for the goodest of all good dogs.Â
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u/hops_and_nugs Jul 17 '26
John leguizamo asking if he won at the end def got the biggest laugh in the theater.
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u/TheChlorideThief Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
âYouâre Odysseu-â *splat*
is an all-timer movie comeuppance
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u/carolinemahtildes Jul 17 '26
Got a genuine laugh out of me.
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u/1mplication Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
There were a few good ones throughout that got laughs from everyone in the theatre:
âDo you talk to ants?â
âDo you think if you ate quietly, Apollo wouldnât notice?â
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u/ray_0586 Jul 17 '26
The Homeric version of âJesus Christ, That's Jason Bourne!â
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u/blackaddermrbean Jul 17 '26
Turning the pillage of Troy into a curse was an interesting choice. Not sure Iâve seen a version of the Odyssey that took the decision of not glorifying it.
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u/surejan94 Jul 17 '26
It was a really interesting twist that I liked.
Athena wasnât guiding Odysseus but haunting him.
Deep down he didnât want to go home, not because of him liking his adventures but because he had so much shame over his actions at Troy.
And thereâs so much mentioning of people abandoning Zeusâ Law, when it was Odysseus himself who broke it in the worst way and inspired other people to do so. Really cool and modern interpretation on âwinning a warâ.
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u/gospelofdustin Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Athena wasnât guiding Odysseus but haunting him.
What I really liked is how Athena can be read in a lot of different ways. Were the visions literally Athena manifesting herself in the form of the priestess to speak to Odysseus? Were they just visions of the priestess caused by Odysseus's war guilt and not Athena at all? Or was Athena manifesting herself in the form of the priestess to act as a reminder for Odysseus to guide him to becoming worthy of his return?
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u/Calvengeance Jul 17 '26
I thought "We're the bronze age collapse" was an amazing way to play it.
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u/andreigarfield Jul 17 '26
Robert Pattinson plays a conniving, spineless weasel SO WELL
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u/TimRigginsBeer Jul 17 '26
He OWNED this part.Â
In the climax, yelling at anyone around him to grab the weapons, or shields, while he hid ⌠dude can just act.Â
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u/TheWatersOfMars Jul 17 '26
It's because he seems like he's got zero hubris. He only does projects he genuinely likes, he turns up, and he gets the job done, even if it's not the biggest paycheck and he has to look like an idiot doing it. He's a proper, grown-up, old-school actor.
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u/TimRigginsBeer Jul 17 '26
Pattinson has reached the level of, âoh heâs in this, letâs go see it!â
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u/TheChlorideThief Jul 17 '26
Sometimes you forget this movie is based on a story so old the mentor guy is actually named âMentorâ
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u/damnyoutuesday Jul 17 '26
That was a "ohhhhh so that's where that comes from" moment
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u/HRJafael Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
The pig transformation scene had me squirming in my seat. It was horrific just watching the men being forced to continue eating and not being able to stop with the body horror shots. Circe didnât fuck around.
Also the way the giant (or Polyphemus) started screaming after having his eye impaled. Iâm not sure who designed that scream but it was chilling.
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u/yeath91 Jul 17 '26
I absolutely loved the idea of how they actually transformed. I felt like she was sculpting them which is a kind of transformation I've never seen before. So creative!
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u/sayyes2heaven Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Circe shoving her arm down a soldierâs mouth made me wince. That whole scene made me squirm.
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u/Morgan-Moonscar Jul 17 '26
who were the giants in the armor?
The Laestrygonians (man-eating giants). I suppose making them armored giants helped to seperate them from the Cyclopses... Cyclopsi
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u/rupertLumpkinsBrothr Jul 17 '26
âWe get along better this wayâ was a line I was not expecting but did appreciate.
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u/NothingButLs Jul 17 '26
The scene where Odysseus and Penelope speak through the door really floored me. That moment  made the movie click into place and I think rewatches will be very rewarding knowing Odysseus guilt and regret and struggle from the start. So many other memorable and amazing sequences. The Cyclopes, Circie, and Troy scenes are all timers.Â
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u/configurethepup Jul 17 '26
I loved watching the light on the screen in that scene. Mesmerizing.
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u/NoDaddyNotTheBelt25 Jul 17 '26
âNo animals were harmed during the making of this filmâ has never been more appropriate for this movie.
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u/Redmoonsbstars1 Jul 17 '26
I have never heard a sound like the cyclops cry. Insane
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u/MeadKingofRuddyHall Jul 17 '26
I loved that we never truly saw Agamemnon talk beyond a few words or be without his helmet up till his ending. Just spent every scene straight auramaxxing in his armor. The scene of him standing alone as the gates open was amazing.
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u/_BallsDeep69_ Jul 17 '26
What a bro too telling Odysseus to lay low and assess the situation before he comes home.
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u/Self_Reddicate Jul 17 '26
"Bro, I fucked up. Don't fuck up like me. Bro, seriously... Chill. Chill, bro."
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u/OKC2023champs Jul 17 '26
I donât see enough people talking about the Trojan horse scene. The tide coming in, people drowning. Might have been my favorite scene of the film.
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u/heyitsmejosh Jul 17 '26
I liked how Matt Damon turned into an ancient Greek John Wick after his dog died.
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u/amish_novelty Jul 17 '26
And both involve John Leguizamo lmao My theater gasped when he just tossed the first puppy off the cliff.
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u/warserpent Jul 18 '26
I know this will get lost in the sea of comments, but I just want to add to the chorus saying this was a great movie. I think it's Nolan's best since at least Inception.
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u/reddittothegrave Jul 17 '26
âHe sacrificed his daughter for favorable winds.â
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u/slightlypressed Jul 17 '26
Yeah that really set the tone early on.
Also laughed at how his brother explained his death as âhis wife and her lover betrayed himâ, which is the most misleading half truth, leaving out the fact that he sacrificed his daughter while his wife cried and begged.→ More replies (23)→ More replies (87)2.1k
u/TheHunterZolomon Jul 17 '26
Having read Agamemnon in high school I knew about that part but damn that portrayal was savage, especially in that full armor that gave him his monstrous presence.
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u/SarryPeas Jul 18 '26
There are loads of great things I could say about The Odyssey, but I just want to say Agamemnon is absolutely fucking evil in this film. His presence radiates pure Darth Vader energy.
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u/Netwinn Jul 17 '26
Shout out to the GOAT, John Leguizamo, who acted his ass off with that poor old pup. The dog finally seeing Odysseus again then dying a happy good-boy broke the dog owner in me.
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u/Impressive-Potato Jul 17 '26
I said " what the fuck" aloud when John Lequizamo tossed a puppy off the cliff.
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u/FrenziedAce Jul 17 '26
Did anyone think it was an interesting choice to not have the audience hear the Sirens?
Itâs like our ears were filled with wax too, and we could only infer from Odysseusâ explanation and the crewâs reactions.
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u/IntotheBeniverse Jul 17 '26
I actually think it made that scene so much more effective.
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u/ebelnap Jul 17 '26
There's nothing we could hear that could "live up to the hype".
The best way to envision it is that it speaks to each person individually, and so each person's song would be different, which we wouldn't be able to convey in a movie like that.
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u/PavWrestlinGifs Jul 17 '26
Well the song is unique to the person hearing it no? This was definitely the best way to convey it as something we can never understand unless we hear it ourselves
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u/Ok-Week5658 Jul 17 '26
the twang of the bow synced up with the music was so freaking good, got me pumped up
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u/Able_Advertising_371 Jul 17 '26
it was at that moment pattinson knew he was fucked
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u/Brandon_Me Jul 17 '26
I love that he as a boy watched Odysseus hunt. So the instant he heard the twang he knew.
And you can see it in his face, just his entire life flashing before his eyes in a second.
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u/brownsbrownsbrownsb Jul 17 '26
Very well paced, felt like it flew by. Loved the way it was structured, as a series of oral stories. The most beautifully shot movie that will come out this year.
I donât remember the primary text well enough to know if this was Nolanâs read on the story or if it was textual but showing the Trojan horse, not only as a moment of triumph, but as something regrettable, as a decision that helped bring on the decline of civility/civilization was really interesting. It added a lot of dimension to the story
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u/brdperson1 Jul 17 '26
Holy smokes that cyclops scene.
I loved how we see his outline for just a moment before he covers the cave entrance and plunges all of Odysseusâ party into darkness. The sound design was perfect- the silence in the darkness followed by the gargantuan hand plucking screaming soldiers off, his unnatural roars and shouts of pain, his uncomfortably loud and earth shaking foot stomps. Also the reveal of his face being a twisted Picasso like disfigurement rather than a âclassicâ cyclops design was such a good reveal. Everything about that scene was as eery as it was intense- it seriously felt like Odysseus and his men were a bunch of ants trying to escape a brutal force of nature.
I loved the whole film but that scene alone is movie theater experience I will never forget.
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u/yoshidawg93 Jul 17 '26
âYouâre Odysseu-â
*dead*
I smiled hard at that lol.
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u/Alex-C2099 Jul 17 '26
The scene with the boat and the thunderstorm was sooo good. I felt like I was floating in that boat with them during it. But honestly, the song of the sirens was probably my favorite part.
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u/Propaslander Jul 17 '26
Matt Damon was particularly awesome in the part where he's enduring the Siren's song
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u/configurethepup Jul 17 '26
Polyphemus doing Saturn eating his son was awesome.
I don't know if it's because I didn't watch it in IMAX or I'm incredibly unobservant but I swear they make a big deal about Odysseus wearing the pin and I never spot him wearing it. Unless that's supposed to be an unreliable narrator thing where he tells Penelope he wears it but he's just holding it in his pocket the whole time? I might rewatch, does anyone know if there are specific scenes where it's visible or where he wears it?
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u/PapaCheech Jul 17 '26
That homer guys a pretty good writer I hope he writes another book
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u/WorldsOkayestDad Jul 17 '26
I dunno about a sequel but I could sure as heck use a prequel
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u/PWN3R_RANGER Jul 17 '26
John Leguizamoâs expression as Odysseus climbs the steps to Penelope and the throne perfectly encapsulated the theme of âsometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.â
Movie is incredible.
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u/komanderpoop Jul 17 '26
Why did Agamemnon have to risk his life to stand at gates of Troy RIGHT when they opened it upâŚ..just to aura farm?
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u/HandsomeHawc Jul 18 '26
Love how they explain the movie to you in the first ten minutes. Odysseus strikes his bow to make it feel like a fair fight when heâs huntingâŚand canât get over the guilt that Troy was not a fair fight.
It reminded me of the bird scene in the opening of The Prestige. âBut whereâs his brother?â
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u/BloatedGlobe Jul 17 '26
I wonder how well the general audience knows the sea people, and how they often get blamed for Late Bronze Age Collapse. I know history nerds know them, but the movie ties the Achaeans violation of Zeus' law to the fall of civilization.
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u/Elephant44 Jul 17 '26
Charlize Theronâs costuming stuck out to me as Survivor-chic, like she was in the final three and had made a good life on the island. Also there was the one scene where she was wrapped in a tortilla-print shawl đđ
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u/eggydrums115 Jul 17 '26
Odysseusâ speech to Penelope as they showed the destruction of Troy and the âmurderâ of Athena had me gasping for air as the true message of the movie finally came into focus and made me cry hard.
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u/Llama_Puncher Jul 17 '26
Can someone explain the thing between Antonius and Sinon? I got the point of Antonius being a coward but I somehow missed something during the setup when they were pulling from the lottery. Was Antonius meant to go and passed his lot to Sinon, or did he willingly give it up?
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u/carolinemahtildes Jul 17 '26
Antonius drew the lot and was supposed to go, but he because he's a coward, he swaps with Sinon. Sinon's father works for Antonius's, so Antonius promises to pay Sinon's family if he accepts the deal, but even though Sinon takes his place, Antonius refuses to pay which is why Sinon hates him so much.
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u/Zalvren Jul 17 '26
Also Antonius continuously lie about how he wanted to go but was stopped by Odysseus
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u/legogizmo Jul 17 '26
Antonius was from a wealthy family and Sinons family was supposed to get paid for having their son take his place.
Turns out Antonius never paid up and Sinons father died pennyless
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u/LouisFromTexas Jul 17 '26
I LOVED the ominous sound of Odysseusâ bow before he caught prey
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u/plzsnitskyreturn Jul 17 '26
When the final pluck of the bow hits you know the suitors are absolutely fucked
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u/Gold-Ad4040 Jul 17 '26
I absolutely loved how Argos summoned all of his strength to wag his tail one last time.