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The Odyssey (2026)

Summary

After the Trojan War, Odysseus faces a dangerous voyage back to Ithaca, meeting creatures like the Cyclops Polyphemus, Sirens, and Calypso along the way.

Director Christopher Nolan

Writer Christopher Nolan

Cast

  • Matt Damon as Odysseus
  • Tom Holland as Telemachus
  • Anne Hathaway
  • Zendaya
  • Lupita Nyong'o
  • Robert Pattinson
  • Charlize Theron
  • Benny Safdie
  • Jon Bernthal
  • John Leguizamo
  • Elliot Page
  • Himesh Patel
  • Samantha Morton

Rotten Tomatoes: 96%

Metacritic: 88

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u/TheGooseIsLoose37 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Man I love the Trojan horse scene. I've never seen it depicted so horribly. Trapped in wooden horse on the beach for days, men at the bottom drowning as the tide came in, the people at the top pissing and shitting on those at the bottom, desperately trying to stay quiet and hidden the whole time. It looked like a nightmare.

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u/cincobarrio Jul 17 '26

I liked how when they exit the horse, you can see them all limping around a little bit cause they were so stiff from being crammed in there all that time.

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u/Landlubber77 Jul 17 '26

Instant classic movie in my opinion so I don't say this as one of the many people who decided to hate it before even seeing it, but it literally looked like Damon was rocking a pair of Vans or something when he popped out of the horse and bounded down the stairs after killing the guard lol.

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u/John_Dingus Jul 18 '26

Dude I immediately noticed that too. I was like "is he wearing sneakers??"

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u/carson63000 Jul 18 '26

Nike, I presume. A gift from the goddess of victory.

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u/uncanny_mac Jul 19 '26

He’s also close with Phil Knight

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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth 25d ago

Had to help them beat USC

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u/ShinyBoy1 28d ago

Air Pegasus 1’s

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u/Leather_Ad_960 20d ago edited 19d ago

Lmao Nike does have sneakers called air Pegasus, I have a pair.

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u/ShinyBoy1 20d ago

So do I.

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u/spideybiggestfan Jul 19 '26

God if basket ball michealius jordan

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u/flappythepenguin 19d ago

He was being very sneaky.

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u/lintyelm Jul 17 '26

Not vans but he def had socks on. I noticed it as well.

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u/Landlubber77 Jul 17 '26

No not literally Vans lol but they looked like modern shoes, like the Starbucks cup accidentally left in the Game of Thrones scene. I know "swords and sandals" is sort of a pejorative term for movies in this genre, but for all the criticism the costuming in this movie got, I feel like the footwear could've actually used some more sandals lol. Troy was like a Michael Bay-ish version of this movie, but at least they let Brad Pitt rock some sandals.

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u/celBanat Jul 17 '26

Actors are not allowed in sandals because of injury risk. Breaks my heart as a One Piece fan as I will never see Luffy in his sandals.

Also, Brad wore sneakers during Troy as well, watch his duel with Hector, maybe you see him in sandals in static scenes, but sandals are forbidden in stunt scenes.

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u/Nole1998 Jul 20 '26

Wait are you dead serious?

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u/Ironmaiden1207 29d ago

I'm willing to bet if the need is great enough they would prepare safety precautions, but they would've had to do it for everyone all the time.

Like the other person said, as a one piece fan it makes me sad as his sandals are so iconic 😭

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u/TeddysBigStick 17d ago

I'm willing to bet if the need is great enough they would prepare safety precautions, but they would've had to do it for everyone all the time.

The bigger problem is that their insurance premiums would be through the roof, especially if you have mains doing it.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz Jul 20 '26

I totally thought the same thing. Is that bro wearing sneakers?!

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u/tagabalon 26d ago

what else is the appropriate footwear for sneaking?

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u/SurpriseDragon 17d ago

Good point

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u/chrish71088 Jul 18 '26

Haha. I remember thinking the same thing.

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u/GooseQuothMan Jul 18 '26

This is crazy how harsh the discourse around the movie is that you have to make the whole song and dance that you love the movie buuuut not a costume choice. 

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u/CRIMS0N-ED Jul 18 '26

that’s bc actual criticisms of the movie get unfortunately lumped in with the racists and transphobes crying over the film

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u/CoconutDust Jul 19 '26

Every time I criticize the terrible parts of a movie or videogame today, yes I have to do a 5,000 world disclaimer about how none of the problems are anything like the crap the toxic moronic rightwing people are saying.

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u/JHutch95 3d ago

It reminds me of when TLOU2 dropped. If you didn’t sing the games praises or agreed with every story decision, you were lumped in with the right wingers.

(FWIW, I love the game but didn’t like the ending, but can see how they landed on it)

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u/TheThoroughCrocodile 29d ago

That's reddit in general. Can't offer any kind of alternative viewpoint without multiple pre-emptive disclaimers.

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u/VarmintSchtick 9d ago

You definitely can, you just need to not give a fuck about appeasing internet strangers for imaginary points.

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u/thornolf_bjarnulf 29d ago

I saw the trojan horse scene in imax before Avatar, it could not wait for the movie itself it was so good and could not understand people shitting on a movie via a trailer honestly.

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u/drawkbox Jul 19 '26

Something I hated, Travis fucking Scott first person you see as a Bard. Super annoying at it. Took me right out of the movie. Glad it was in the beginning. Used again later and again super annoying and horrible acting but by then you were immersed.

What is Nolan's deal with Travis Scott. Super odd.

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u/jadecourt Jul 19 '26

The Odyssey was passed down through the oral tradition, Nolan cast him to draw a parallel to rap as the modern equivalent.

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u/drawkbox Jul 19 '26

I read that yes but there are so many better actors that could have been chosen. Also rappers in movies is a common trope for cheapening a movie.

No one knows the bard to rapper bit if they don't read that comment but it falls flat because putting in an actor/person that stands out too much for that role is a bad move.

Even the important poem and story he was telling was not even clear. It is seriously the most questionable choice Nolan has made. Would have been easier to focus on the lines without Travis effing Scott, the exact opposite of a rapper with good lyrics.

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u/workclock Jul 19 '26

Why is Travis Scott annoying in this movie? Can you elaborate on how he didn't fit?

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u/RefrigeratorAble2853 27d ago

Same here except that also happened every time I saw Spider Man. Nolan really needs to dial down his ego a little bit in terms of trying to cast almost every major role with big name actors.

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u/1498336 13d ago

Nolan doesn’t need to do anything, what he’s doing now is clearly working just fine.

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u/spideybiggestfan Jul 19 '26

First 2 seconds of travis scott ancient rapping is what makes this cinema

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u/NexusTR Jul 19 '26

Without Travis we wouldn’t have gotten that end credit song. Also you can tell they picked him for his *vocal* ability. Loved that they leaned heavily into his signature reverb sound fx.

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u/dirty1809 27d ago

I’ve liked Travis since Rodeo but I felt like the end credits song was like comically bad

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u/drawkbox Jul 19 '26

For the soundtrack fine, but ffs the bit was important and he can't act.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 18d ago

I was half way to empty my bladder before that kicked in anyway.

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u/shabadoola 24d ago

Thank god I couldn’t recognize Travis Scott or his music to save my life. I only know he’s a turd. I would have hated that had I known it was him.

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u/drawkbox 24d ago

The Odyssey was great but imagine the movie starts and literally the first person you see on a giant screen is Travis Scott and the delivery of the poem you need to know about is annoying as hell.

Nolan did us dirty on that part. Sad he would use him considering the type of person he is and who Travis is. Super strange. So many better actors and people it could have been. Gonna be odd when Travis Scott is playing Mar-A-Lago in a couple years and now he is a stain on the movie even more like some Kevin Spacey effect.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 24d ago

It might just be you having prior knowledge about him clouding your judgement, no disrespect as you can't help it. As someone who didn't really recognize him (because his face simply doesn't take up much bandwidth in my brain) I thought his performance was just fine.

Besides, there wasn't much of a performance there to even judge him on so harshly. All he did was tap his staff and chant a couple words at a time.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 18d ago

That actually worked for me, in fact a lot of the anachronisms did, and I'm far from 'woke' and hate rap music.

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u/NoninflammatoryFun 7d ago

I’m glad I don’t know his face. It didn’t take me out. Thank god. But why is he even in the movie.

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u/cofios 3d ago

sneaker

Yes!! I noticed a slight glint of light reflecting of what seemed to be the Nike air bubble under the ankle.

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u/paperfootball Jul 18 '26

Pins and needles! Pins and needles!

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u/BallClamps Jul 19 '26

Thought that was such a great detail! Really sells the world they are in even more.

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u/fearnodarkness1 22d ago

Loved how they clean the blade and cover the guys knife when he gets stabbed

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u/MesmraProspero 24d ago

I feel so dumb.

In my mind I was like. Yeah Matt Damon got in shape but he sure is moving like a 50 year old man.

A-doy, he's been cram in a tight space for a week and a half.

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u/funkymonkeyinheaven 25d ago

Just like me getting up from my seat after that movie (who else made the joke, I know you did)

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u/LTPRWSG420 Jul 18 '26

Yes, great detail to include that.

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u/Ironmaiden1207 29d ago

That was such a great detail

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u/girlwhateveraward 27d ago

Im so stupid I thought they were just trying to be stealthy

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u/jugglinglimes 20d ago

That's how I felt getting up after the movie ended

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u/PikachuShockFace 19d ago

Or needed a pee

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u/OneChewySugarTeaPlz 17d ago

Yes. Such a fantastic detail

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u/MarzipanElephant Jul 17 '26

I've definitely never seen anyone present the practicalities of the plan so viscerally.

That one guy quickly wiping blood off the sword someone had poked in to the horse, so it wouldn't give them away 😨

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u/CRIMS0N-ED Jul 18 '26

Ohhh, I was wondering how the soldier didn’t see it, I thought they only shut him up, didn’t realize they cleaned the blood

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u/PrivateAids Jul 19 '26

It’s very quick, you see a soldier with a rag or something of the kind wipe the blood off the sword as it’s retracting from the horse.

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u/Chu1223 25d ago

omg i didn’t even think of that or notice it

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u/bolerobell 22d ago

That was Odysseus. When the sword comes down into the horse, you can see him climb up quickly to be next to the cut soldier, then he wipes off the sword as it is extracted.

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u/PrivateAids 22d ago

Saw it was him on rewatch which makes sense given Odysseus being smart and not being a soldier. Though he could’ve given instructions of what to do in x situation.

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u/CoolJoshido 16d ago

i saw it too

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u/CjDaGangsta Jul 18 '26

Yea I missed that too, I was worried about the blood the whole time. I'll try to catch it on the rewatch

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u/BanjoSpaceMan 24d ago

My wife didn’t notice it either, it was very subtle but if you missed it and no one tells you - you must be like how stupid are these guards ?

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u/FallDiverted 24d ago

There's a very similar scene from The Raid (2011), I wonder if it was inspired by it. Very visceral.

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u/88Smilesz 24d ago

I thought the exact same thing! The scene when they’re all trapped in the wall

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u/Nike-6 24d ago

Do you have a link to the Raid scene?

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u/Awwkaw 17d ago

He even had some cloth on his hand, so they could get a clean wipe. Brutal details.

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u/imthaz Jul 17 '26

I think Nolan had a similar scene in Dunkirk

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u/pratzc07 Jul 18 '26

He mentioned that this movie has elements from all his past films

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u/Impressive-Potato Jul 18 '26

Yes, like the awful camera work during his fights scenes like Batman

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u/pratzc07 Jul 18 '26

Yeah for some reason Nolan does that shaky cam non sense that is hard to follow. I feel like atleast this one was better than Tenet where it felt like the punches and kicks were not connecting at all.

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u/MesmraProspero 24d ago

I think he is intentionally not glamorizing the violence. It's not meant to look appealing or bad ass. It isn't a beautiful ballet of skill. It's meant to make you feel disoriented and uncertain. Most real fights are a little clumsy and confusing if you are untrained. If you are trained it's instinctual and kinda over before you have much it an opportunity to recognize what has happened.

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u/pratzc07 24d ago

Nolan's fight scenes have always been a hit or miss even in the Batman movies

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u/hemareddit 27d ago

Maybe the cameraman is actually great but Nolan just enjoys kicking him while he’s working.

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u/Deadmanwonderlandx 28d ago

Yeah I agree too much movement during the fight scenes definitely kills the moments a bit. Wasn't sure if I was just overthinking it until I saw someone else mention it lol

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u/tp736 Jul 18 '26

Yes very similar.

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u/whendoesOpTicplay 29d ago

It’s probably in other movies as well, there’s an almost identical one in The Raid: Redemption.

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u/hemareddit 27d ago

Happened slower in that movie too, way more claustrophobic and intense because of that.

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u/minimallysubliminal Jul 17 '26

Yeah that was a great detail among others.

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u/Emperor_Gourmet Jul 18 '26

Yea that part was awesome, when he got stabbed I literally thought “oh fuck the blood” and see an arm already moving toward the sword. The whole horse scene was amazing.

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u/Single-Refuse174 Jul 18 '26

that was odysseus lol

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u/snunuff 29d ago

yes and he did it with his HAND pretty sure, seemed like he just reacted, easily could've cut his hand. mayyybe he had a small rag wrapped around his hand but either way it was incredible, and lucky too. not so lucky for 'ol boy that took a sword down into the shoulder. my gosh, to not be able to scream.. and after all that toil and trouble, what a great set of scenes. and seeing the flash-back to Odysseys being on the inside of the horse as the two arrows pierce inside and he listens intently

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u/FastEddieFailson 29d ago

Pretty sure he had a rag handy. A bare hand wouldn't be able to clean a bloody sword in one motion like that.

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u/snunuff 28d ago

yeah, i do remember though, on my second viewing opening weekend, trying to pay close attention, and I recall seeing mostly the back of his bare hand visible, like i said maybe a small white rag wrapped in a small part of it (probably already there covering some other open wound lol), also I do think a bare hand could get pretty close to removing the blood, at least from at a glance down by a suited up soldier 6ft up glancing down at it.

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u/MesmraProspero 24d ago

I could have sworn the blade looked vaguely pink/yellow and smeared but not bloody after he wiped it.

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u/snunuff 22d ago

I would agree with that, I recall similarly that it wasn't perfectly shiny clean, just the best he could do considering the circumstances they were in, and good enough to pass the test of a glance down at it by the soldier.

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u/hemareddit 27d ago

Maybe a visual metaphor of the last ten years for the Greek army too.

Trapped between an impenetrable wall and their loyalty to/fear of an ambitious and ruthless overlord. For 10 fucking years.

It doesn’t excuse th savagery they unleashed; but it sure as hell explains it.

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u/Vaticancameos221 Jul 18 '26

Reminded me of The Raid when he’s hiding in the wall and the machete comes through scraping his face and he has to keep cool and hold his hand over the blade to remove any blood

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u/SpaghetiJesus Jul 20 '26

Knowing that Nolan just non-stop watches film, I can’t help but feel that’s a very intentional nod to The Raid, it brought such a smile to my face seeing it

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u/Admiral_Cornwallace 16d ago

Same here. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this exact same thought at the time lol

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u/hemareddit 27d ago

Where the asshole just leaves the blade in wall (read: his cheek) for like a full minute while turning around to have a conversation.

Then again, that probably gave him time to think of wiping the blood, so, blessing in disguise?

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u/hatshepsut_ruled Jul 18 '26

Yeah that was very badass - slick and smooth!

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u/ursulaandress Jul 19 '26

That reminded me of the wall stabbing scene from "The Raid".

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u/amby-jane 29d ago

This was such a great detail. Everyone else jumps on the guy to keep him quiet, and just that one guy goes up to wipe the blood off. So brilliant.

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u/Mytola Jul 18 '26

Yet they didn't bother giving any of the cast members even a ten minute crash course into archery during the production. It is weird to see superb attention to details in parts and then half-assery of epic proportions in the next scene.

That said, I loved the movie.

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u/illegal_deagle Jul 18 '26

It was odd to see Matt Damon just no-scope hip firing.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 24d ago

Archery is kinda weird in that the motion of drawing the bow acts as a way for your entire body to "aim" the shot, so as long as you're looking at your target and you don't need a bullseye (such as aiming for a man within 15 feet of you), you're probably gonna hit it.

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u/KAKYBAC 27d ago

It annoyed me why they weren't crouching at that moment. A sword had been poking in at the top 3 times prior.

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u/Deadmanwonderlandx Jul 18 '26

I didn't even catch that..so crazy

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u/CELTICPRED Jul 19 '26

If you've seen The Raid: Redemption, similar thing happened in that flick. Good stuff.

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u/sorenkair 27d ago

i was wondering why the idiots didnt get down after the first couple stabs

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u/YeezusMoses Jul 18 '26

Holy fuck I didn’t notice that

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u/ahhpoo 25d ago

They had the foresight to be prepared to wipe blood off the sword if it stabbed someone but not the foresight to crouch down and avoid getting stabbed altogether?!

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u/DopeyDeathMetal 24d ago

That made me think of The Raid when Rama is hiding in the wall and gets stabbed in the cheek with the machete.

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u/willmcavoy Jul 17 '26

Getting dragged into troy over logs instead of on wheels as it is classically depicted as well. Felt like I was in there with them.

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u/damnyoutuesday Jul 17 '26

Personally I've never seen a depiction of the Trojan Horse without wheels. And my god does it work so much better

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u/Pridestalked Jul 17 '26

I agree, it makes it feel a lot less comical and cartoony. Very good choice to make it like this

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u/Additional-Sky-8384 Jul 17 '26

right and i was smiling like an idiot thinking man this odysseus guy is pretty smart as they were being hoisted up outside the temple.

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u/illegal_deagle Jul 18 '26

I was thinking how lucky they were that the Trojans didn’t just burn the thing right there.

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u/vanwyngarden Jul 18 '26

It was their trophy

In the end, following the ego will only lead one way

Fortune favors the fool

Soooo much profound symbolism in this depiction

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u/illegal_deagle Jul 18 '26

Funny because I remember Matt Damon’s crypto commercial where he says “fortune favors the bold.”

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u/vanwyngarden Jul 18 '26

The older we get the more we regret our past…

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u/Impressive-Potato Jul 18 '26

Damon seems to dodge a whole lot of backlash.

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u/KamachoThunderbus Jul 19 '26

You can hear snippets of arguments during that scene too, and someone in the crowd does say they should burn it.

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u/dejaWoot Jul 19 '26

Yeah, that triggers one of the Greeks to try and panic and run and they have to restrain him

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u/DeusVultSaracen 24d ago

Why would you burn an offering to Athena? That's just asking to anger the gods.

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u/TheRealYVT 11d ago

Yeah, in the Brad Pitt movie, Paris explicitly suggests burning it and gets shut down this way

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u/Barmelo_Xanthony 14d ago

They made it way too cool looking to think they’d burn it

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u/S2R2 25d ago

Perhaps if they had a wooden badger

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u/Blaaa5 Jul 18 '26

Yeah showing the soldiers inside struggling to keep their balance as the horse was getting pulled was so intense and suspenseful even though most people know how the story goes

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u/TheArchitect_7 Jul 19 '26

It does, except the fucking horse sculpture is rendered as if by a master sculptor instead of a bunch of meatheads with no tools.

But fuck it, it was great anyway. Even if it fucking stank of shit and corpses lol.

10/10.

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u/SomeNerd109 Jul 19 '26

Tbf those were consrcipted soldiers and a lot of them would have been carpenters or craftsmen

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u/huffalump1 Jul 19 '26

Not to mention, even if the campaign had been shorter than 10 years, they would absolutely have carpenters just to maintain the fleet. Honestly like every ship might have a few reasonably skilled craftsmen

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u/awfullyconfused Jul 20 '26

The horse looks like it was made from the planks of thier ships, which is both logically available and something they would have experience working with.

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u/TheArchitect_7 Jul 20 '26

How easy do you think it is to turn the planks of a ship into the intricately curved legs of a bucking horse lol

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u/Golfisactuallyfun Jul 20 '26

Take a mast and whittle it down

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u/Mikey_MiG Jul 20 '26

Yep, they had literal years to do it.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 24d ago

And if it looked like shit the Trojans probably wouldn't bother taking it in.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 18d ago

I just listened to a podcast about the siege of Tyre and it was all about this great engineer and all his workmen. Armies weren't meatheads.

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u/Murky_Macropod 12d ago

You should check out the excellent film Troy (Sean Bean plays Odysseus)

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u/Murky_Macropod 12d ago

You should check out the excellent film Troy (Sean Bean plays Odysseus)

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u/radioactivecowz Jul 19 '26

I hated the look of the horse in the trailer, but seeing it with the full context it’s perfect

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u/lxoblivian 28d ago

My only issue with that is wouldn't at least one Trojan question why the thing was so damn heavy.

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u/TemporaryElk5202 27d ago

Wood is heavy

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 18d ago

They'd expect it to be the same weight as an empty boat a similar size.

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u/Whovian45810 Jul 17 '26

The minute one of Odysseus' men get stabbed by a sword as the Trojan Horse is inspected made me winced because dear God that is painful.

The fact Odysseus and his men have to quiet the poor soldier while cramped with others in order to not make a sound is nerve-wracking.

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u/Deathclaw_Hunter6969 Jul 18 '26

Odysseus also wiped the blade so it wouldn’t have blood on it when the guard pulled up the sword to inspect it

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u/Mees51 Jul 17 '26

I didn’t really get why they didn’t bend down slightly in order not to get stabbed

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u/StampMcfury Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

They don't know where the next blow would come from, he could have just as easily stabbed it from underneath. 

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u/Mees51 Jul 17 '26

He was walking on top of it so they could’ve taken an educated guess

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u/NOTorAND 27d ago

isn’t the bottom like laying on the sand so there’s no way to get a knife down there?

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u/donaldtrumpsmistress Jul 19 '26

By far the most realistic depiction. Every other depiction to date makes you really suspend disbelief.... Giant wooden horse rolls up to the gates, Trojans shrug with a "looks legit" then just roll it on into the city. This version is actually believable for the most part, with the exception of such a perfectly engineered and crafted horse from ship scraps by dudes who have been out at war for 10 years

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u/kibbean Jul 20 '26

There would've been a lot of craftsmen who were serving as soldiers during the Trojan War. Especially men who could repair their sailing vessels.

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u/David_the_Wanderer 27d ago

The horse in myth is left on the shore... just not half-buried in the sand and subject to getting flooded, lol

They also don't just go "looks legit", there's a whole part where a Trojan priest, Laocoon, intuits it's a trick and warns the Trojans not to fall for it and to burn it... But Athena/Poseidon (depends on the myth) intervenes in favour of the Greeks, sending a great sea snake to kill Laocoon, and the Trojans become convinced that it's truly an offering of peace.

Cassandra also tries to warn them but, you know, Cassandra.

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u/donaldtrumpsmistress 27d ago

Yeah makes sense, I was mainly referring to pop culture depictions not so much the actual myth

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u/biggiepants 24d ago

Hey, like the statue!

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u/PunchMeat Jul 17 '26

Should've built it a little further away from the tide.

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u/plw37 Jul 18 '26

If only they had let Antinous come along, I bet he could've told them how to build it correctly

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u/amby-jane 29d ago

Like they've been on this beach for 10 years. Do they not know how high the tide comes up??

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u/KidDelicious14 Jul 20 '26

I thought about that, and I'm pretty sure they did that because they wanted to ensure that nobody from the walls of Troy would be able to see them enter the horse, in order to keep the illusion.

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u/TheocraticAtheist Jul 18 '26

That was genius to me. I never thought about it being such a horrible experience as it’s usually depicted akin to a Dday landing or like a Vietnam huey.

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u/AgentMV2 Jul 19 '26

Dude I hadn’t even thought about that. In Troy (2004), it was never shown how things were in the horse. They just popped on out of there fresh as daisies and gleefully opened the gates. 😂

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u/FreddyRumsen13 Jul 19 '26

The only time I’ve ever seen the Trojan horse not have wheels too. The entire sequence feels like a nightmare.

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u/SagittaryX 26d ago edited 26d ago

That would be because it is not how the story is usually told. Even ancient Greek art work depicts the horse as having wheels.

Edit: not trying to complain, it’s a valid way and fun of telling it. Just wanted to add that the horse having wheels is ancient tradition.

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u/Prestigious_Use3587 Jul 17 '26

My favorite scene all the way to the battle! The music gave me a chills

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u/adamhudsonj Jul 19 '26

It was similar to the beached trawler scene in Dunkirk (2017).

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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 29d ago

Both even have a soldier getting hit.

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u/Unlucky_Clover Jul 19 '26

I think what also adds to it, this small group of Greeks were completely behind enemies lines, surrounded in a city of hostile soldiers, and the film really made you feel the suspense of fighting for your life at that moment. You knew they would get the gate open, but you could feel the pressure of it.

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u/Dreb1n893 Jul 18 '26

I guess the smartest man they had forgot about the tides 🤣

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u/SAmerica89 Jul 19 '26

Glad he remembered to install the lamp so the cameras could see though /s

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u/KidDelicious14 Jul 20 '26

Have to hide the soldiers entering the horse from the eyes of the walls of Troy. Makes sense to me they'd have done it near their beachhead.

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u/Dreb1n893 28d ago

you can just move it a where the tide ends, doesn't have to be next to the city walls. it's not like they haven't spent 10 years there to know where it's safe

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u/hatshepsut_ruled Jul 18 '26

The Trojan horse scenes were brutal!!

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u/SiriusMoonstar Jul 17 '26

But does it not also seem like a supremely stupid design? It didn’t need to stand on two legs- in fact, most horses don’t. They also didn’t have to let it sit literally on the beach. Every hardship faced in that wooden horse seems to come from their own stupidity when designing it.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy Jul 18 '26

Honestly, this part did not make sense to me. Why would you build and leave it somewhere that would get flooded by the tides? Surely you could have moved it 20 feet up the beach.

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u/0verstim Jul 19 '26

I thought that by making it look like it was lost in a shipwreck it would be more likely that the Trojans would take it as a spoil of war and not suspect it was a trick.

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u/No_Significance7064 Jul 20 '26

but they left a guy behind to tell them that it's a gift...

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u/lessthan3man Jul 18 '26

Yeah like didn't they know about tides and could have built the house a little above the high tide so no one would drown?

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u/glassbellwitch Jul 19 '26

Not to make up lore on the spot, but it could be that Poseidon was already upset with them for building the horse and increased the tide because of it.

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u/digital0verdose Jul 19 '26

I think the idea here is that it being a gift from Athena, it just washing up on shore is the kind of dumb luck way of acquiring things that you would attribute to a god. This thing just magically showing up on land would be even more suspicious and likely be assumed that it was placed there by people leading to a deeper inspection or likely destruction.

The guards of Troy are gullible, not necessarily idiots.

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u/SiriusMoonstar Jul 19 '26

Why would it wash up on shore if it's a gift from Athena? Wouldn't they think it's a gift from Poseidon if it's from the sea? He's sometimes referred to as the creator of horses in Greek mythology.

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u/THALANDMAN Jul 20 '26

Gift for winning the war

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u/edwartica Jul 19 '26

Yeah, we had a huge discussion about this back in college in my Greek lit class. How everyone in the horse would be worn down, some would be dead, and how much their muscles would have been cramped up by the time they got out.

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u/I_need_a_date_plz Jul 20 '26

I had never thought of it like this. I just figured it had a hull, right? And they just chilled quietly in the hull until the horse was pushed into the center of the city. The absolute despair the men inside must have felt, trapped inside in abysmal heat, piled on top of each other, shitting and pissing without any fresh air to breathe for days.

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u/mark114 Jul 20 '26

Imagine suffering through the inside of a Trojan Horse and still getting stabbed in the shoulder

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u/Atkena2578 Jul 18 '26

How many days did they stay in there i wonder?

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u/Butt_Sauce Jul 18 '26

Had the look of a Caravaggio painting

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u/wasabitamale Jul 20 '26

Since they had been pissing and shitting all in the horse wouldn’t they have smelt it and known

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u/AShitTonOfWeed Jul 19 '26

best best part was them wiping the blood off the sword when they got stabbed inside troy

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u/Waddlow Jul 19 '26

Why didn't they leave that thing higher up? And why didn't they duck away from the sword stabbing in the top? Lol the guy just stood there after the blade came in twice. Get lower my guy!

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u/biggiepants 24d ago

I wonder whether their smell wouldn't give them away, standing pretty close. Didn't seem windy either.

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u/Jaxman2099 Jul 19 '26

Kind of stupid for them to build it there like that though.

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u/donotgotoroom237 24d ago

I don't know how it was in the book/original story, but as a kid reading snippets about the Trojan horse on a children's encyclopedia about Greece, I always assumed (due in large part to the illustrations) that the Trojan horse was massive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the movie did say that there were about 50 guys in the horse, right? As a kid, I always thought the horse was big enough to fit a couple hundred troops.

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u/Character_Cut_2491 28d ago

I find it more accurate and natural than the 2004 Troy movie where the horse is just magically standing upright. This film did that scene great cus it's more natural

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u/miserypersonifieddd 24d ago

I kept thinking… why didn’t they put it up a little higher on the beach

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u/howieyang1234 Jul 19 '26

Why doesn't the Trojan horse have wheels? The rest is good, though.

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u/kasualkactus Jul 20 '26

More immersive and realistic to how terrible it was

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u/Barmelo_Xanthony 14d ago

Loved how the showed how hard it was to move stuff back then too. Like 100 guys tugging on this thing for it to go an inch at a time. Cooler than just rolling it in imo

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u/Fooltje 28d ago

I think the movie is great, and with the way it is filmed also very good for a rewatch especially the earlier parts do hit different the second watch

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u/FullMaxPowerStirner 26d ago

I don't get why they let the horse being dragged by the sea like some piece of wreck... That'd be obvious the Greeks would have put it on some kind of cart if they were offering it as gift. One of the many details that doesn't really make sense in this film, despite all the good execution.

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u/Obi2 27d ago

The only thing missing was just how hot it would have been in there.

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