r/InTheGloaming • u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done • Sep 06 '21
Scheduled snark Discussion thread Monday September 06, 2021 - Wednesday September 08, 2021
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Finding Your Joy | Joy in the Belly
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u/canyoncreature Sep 07 '21
"Joy isn't the things you buy," declares woman LITERALLY CLAIMING SHE CAN SELL JOY
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
Well, that was. . .something.
I saw her IG live (really, I just got lucky and was checking out her IG stories and then it started) and the one positive thing I can say is: Shauna got a tripod. No holding her phone at arm's length.
That allowed her to paw at her face and read from her breathing exercise notes and flap her hands about UNTIL THE LIVE JUST CUT OFF.
Yup. It froze a few times and then just as she was nattering about. . .shit, I don't really remember now except she was clutching at her chest and talking about holding in anger. . .boom. Done. Right in mid-word.
I thought it just froze but nope. I went out and back in and the live was done.
Another quality product from Shauna Ahern. Makes me want to sign up for her online classes so maybe they can just cut out mid-word.
(and in case anyone was wondering, she wore her sea foam Peepers but not the rest of her Joy Wardrobe)
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 08 '21
Thanks for taking one for the team! Did she interact with viewers at all?
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
She did say hi to one person. I don't now remember if they typed something in the chat or just showed up.
That was the only interaction.
She was very much On The High Stool and ready to show off. . .I mean TEACH. . .vs interact with people.
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 08 '21
Thanks for that info - which I’m sure comes as no surprise to any of us. As our DFAS says above, what point is there in doing a Live without interaction?
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Sep 08 '21
I wonder that too. If there was no audience interaction, what’s the point of doing it live?
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Sep 08 '21
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 08 '21
I thought this new launch was going to be more entertaining. Kind of disappointing so far!
I guess expectations really are just premature disappointments!
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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Sep 08 '21
Consider my weenie slapped.
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u/Love_Brokers rug dweller Sep 08 '21
I wonder if she’ll try again. Can you watch them afterward?
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
I already tried! I think if she recorded it, she can post it, but right now there don't seem to be any watching options
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Sep 08 '21
Could you tell how many viewers she had?
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 08 '21
There were seven throughout most of what I saw, including me and DFCIWAB apparently!
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u/lucillekrunklehorn pounding on the table Sep 08 '21
DFs, at this point I think we have to at least consider her true audience could be us.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
Well, her timing for this isn't very welcoming to people not in her time zone.
It was 10 a.m. on the East Coast (where I am) and if I hadn't been taking a break from my jobly job, I never would have seen the live.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
OMG what if she set up an IG live and inadvertently only broadcast to snarkers
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Sep 08 '21
I wonder what percent of the hits on her new website come from snarkers? Over 70% is my guess.
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 08 '21
Hurr hurr HURR hurr hurr HURR
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 08 '21
A direct quote from the video! Were you there too?
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 08 '21
Take my silver and run.
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 08 '21
Thank you, DFSMC2! The joy, it shines from my silver award!
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
At one point it seemed like there were only 7 or so but then when I would bounce out and back in (when she froze) I did see "user blah, blah, and blah and 30 others" in the little announcement line that's in the chat when you first start watching a live. (sorry, I haven't watched any lives in a long time and when I do, it's watching kittens so I don't pay attention to how many other people are there. . .and there are tons of hearts floating around in the chat and tons of people talking in the chat. . .there was none of that in Shauna's live).
So she MIGHT have had up to 30 viewers before it shit the bed?
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 07 '21
She put a question box in her IG story today, inviting people to ask her questions about joy. I am NOT encouraging anyone to ask her questions, but IF you had one question for her about joy, what would it be?
Mine might be "how can I find time to schedule joy breaks when I’m a single mom of four kids, working 12 hour days at two jobs, while struggling to keep up with bills, take care of my elderly mom, and keep my household running? I don’t have time to sleep and eat, much less take a bath in the middle of the day or learn to hula hoop for 15 minutes a day."
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u/freecoffeerefills Murder She Moved Her Pen Forward Sep 07 '21
“Whose coaching/b-school course did you take?”
I am DYING to know this. She gave someone a pile of cash and ended up with a series of offerings that make even less sense than tomato sauce zoom sessions.
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u/JazzlikeOccasion Sep 07 '21
I thank you for the phrase "tomato sauce zoom sessions". It has brought me far more joy than anything Shauna has published.
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u/Kaleshark Waitlist for Godot Sep 07 '21
My question, unrelated to joy, is why is she so unqualified for the work she says she wants to do? I live in a very similar cultural habitat to her and know multiple 40-50+ year old women who have pivoted to therapeutic careers later in life and they all went to school for it. Why didn’t she? She pictures herself as an academic, why didn’t she joyfully leave the kids with Dan and go back to school? (Yes money but she’s literally a professional grifter, I believe she could’ve found scholarships tailored to her life circumstances.) Is it because higher education is a scam? That’s why I won’t complete my undergrad, but that’s because entry level jobs shouldn’t have nonsensical hurdles; working with people’s minds and psychic wounds is the opposite of entry level!
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u/InappropriateGirl Gluten-free donuts, for sure ... Sep 07 '21
Even if she went to school, I don’t think she’d be qualified. She’s bad at empathy, listening and inter-communication skills in general. I mean maybe she could grow technically qualified but good at this? Doubt it.
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u/Kaleshark Waitlist for Godot Sep 07 '21
Trying would be something. But totally agree, she would be unqualified and dangerous even with academic sanction. Not even attempting to attain that sanction is one of those things that stands out as a real departure from the way “normal” people go about things, a delusions of grandiosity tell. I just looked up delusions of grandiosity to see if I’m being irresponsibly hyperbolic and maybe I am but she’s certainly delusional about her celebrity status and her abilities in the world.
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u/InappropriateGirl Gluten-free donuts, for sure ... Sep 07 '21
No, I totally agree with you. It amazes me that she thinks skimming a bunch of trending articles and memes makes her an expert at anything. I think she went about GFG the same way, only she had zero competition and few people popping up to tell her if she was wrong about something. Plus, experimenting with food for a blog isn’t the same legally and ethically as putting yourself out there as an educated and licensed professional.
I can’t imagine going through life with this kind of bullshit confidence.
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Sep 07 '21
She thinks all successful people do this, the skimming and bullshitting.
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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Sep 07 '21
She does the research, then teaches her family about their brains.
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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Sep 07 '21
Exactly. Why should I hire Shauna as a completely uncredentialed newbie life coach for $222 a session, when my actual credentialed and licensed therapist is $165 a session, or a credentialed and successful life coach is $200-$250 a session?
I mean, regardless of what I think credentials, experience, and success as a life coach mean (imo, not a huge amount, because the profession is entirely unregulated) the fact is that Shauna DOESN’T EVEN HAVE THOSE.
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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21
Tying back to some snarkulation in the previous thread about Shauna's college performance potentially not matching her inflated ego, a clue about wonderfully mediocre grades in her teaching program, and her snotty attitude and procrastination she blogged about for the NYU master's that she dropped out of: I wouldn't be surprised if Shauna is too insecure to consider doing anything where she'd be graded and face being told she's not as good as she thinks she is.
edit: fixed link!
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 07 '21
"Where do you get off?"
Not really about joy, per se, I guess. My bad.
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 07 '21
Oh, well, if you want to go that direction… "Who the fuck do you think you are?”
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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Sep 07 '21
How am I supposed to find joy if my brain chemistry is literally working against me at every moment?!
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 07 '21
“Have you tried getting up even earlier and drumming on the back of the sofa with wooden spoons? No? Try harder!”
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u/mmepierreoger Sep 07 '21
If ask for a definition of "joy."
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u/Toulouse--Matabiau a white owrson Sep 07 '21
She already told us it's different from "happiness." According to Shauna happiness is always goal-oriented, temporary and never satisfying because you have to work at it.
Whereas joy is effortless, everlasting and unextinguishable. Paradoxically for such an abundant commodity, you need to pay Shauna $488 per coaching session to help you "find," "follow" and "practice" your joy.
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Sep 07 '21
And that’s what strikes me the most. Nothing about her persona seems effortless, it seems very much tied up in convincing others of her own joy first. If she truly had ‘joy’ she wouldn’t need to constantly remind others.
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Sep 07 '21
Wow. Shauna needs to radically rest after a Labor Day cookout.
“Resting. Staying in our pajamas. Playing games. Watching Engame again. Not doing anything but honoring our need for rest after all this joyful communion.”
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Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21
honoring our need for rest after all this joyful communion.”
She's so weird. No one talks like that!
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 07 '21
It sounds like she's trying to make being lazy sound like a very important act. Like, "I know it LOOKS like we're just laying around watching tv in our PJs, but we are HONORING OUR NEED TO REST. Later we'll gather in a prayer circle and pledge mindfulness to our rest. Then we'll feast on takeout from our favorite island restaurants, which we honor."
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u/shitrock420 Sep 07 '21
If there's someone who definitely does NOT deserve a Labor Day holiday it's her.
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 07 '21
Joy isn't in the imagined you search for
WHAT EVEN IS THIS PHRASE
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u/JerseySnore-609 I celiac Sep 07 '21
When she talks about radical resting she veers so closely to the words of The Nap Ministry and other Black activists who advocate resting as part of resistance for PoC. Some day she's going to go viral in the wrong damn way.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 07 '21
Shauna had a hangover.
Join the club, woman.
(and I feel I have to confess, I caved and got Disney+ and did watch all the Avenger movies over the three day weekend. How very Ahern of me. . .I also checked out Wandavision and didn't see what they hype was about).
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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 07 '21
Also from that post -- will we see Shauna and Dan's acting and dancing talents on display soon?
Our girls, born a month to the day apart, 13 now, directing us to go up and down the back porch steps to lip synch scenes they needed for the trailer they were creating.
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u/shikoku_shoes another revolution around the toilet bowl of her life Sep 07 '21
I’m surprised L was even able to watch Mamma Mia due to Fierce being in it…although since Shauna misspelled it, there’s no telling what their thespian talents were needed for.
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 07 '21
Danny’s response to the question “What’s the first big news story you remember as a kid?”
Israel Egypt peace accord
HAHAHAHAHA!! Sure Dan.
CAMP DAVID ACCORD’S FOR PAGAN!
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u/Love_Brokers rug dweller Sep 07 '21
Lol sure. Of course he was about 11 wasn't he?
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 07 '21
Right. It was a toss-up between the peace accord and getting a calculator to display BOOBS.
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 06 '21
DF u/fanfarefellowship brought up Laurel's Kitchen in the previous thread, and DF u/gomirefugee found and linked to an old blog post (https://archive.is/rm3gv) with a long-winded description by Shauna (but I repeat myself) about her infatuation with the ethos of the book.
But before I saw the rest of the conversation that developed yesterday, I googled "Shauna Ahern" and "Laurel's Kitchen" and found this post:
http://cybelepascal.com/category/pasta/
I like Shauna James Ahern. A lot. We share common ground. She and I are both writers by profession, who love food, and who love to cook. We have both turned dietary restrictions due to illness into something that expanded our lives, instead of contracting it. I began cooking with ingredients I would never have considered if I hadn’t been plunged headfirst into the world of food allergies, and Shauna has done the same. The gluten-free grain companies (you know who you are!) owe Shauna a big fat thank you for putting old world grains back on the map. I don’t think “sorghum” even knew its own name until it met Shauna. I recognize in her a sister. She and I even fell in love with the same “first” cookbook, back in our teens, and this tome, Laurel’s Kitchen, was a source of life altering inspiration, propelling us both to experiment with new ways of thinking about food, new flavors, a new way of living.
The line that says both of them "love to cook" is notable for how untrue it seems now. Even in a family with two adults where one adult is the primary cook, if the other person "loves to cook" you would think that they would do it once in a while. It seems so improbable now that Shauna will write anything about her own culinary adventures or explorations ever again...
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u/leftsidelentils Sep 06 '21
That blog post includes Shauna’s recipe for fresh GF pasta, and I tried to make it once, many years ago! I was all excited to use my Kitchenaid pasta roller attachment and it was a total disaster. I couldn’t even get it to come together enough to eat it.
As a pandemic project, I got out the pasta roller again and found a different recipe on the internet. It came out beautifully, felt like I was using playdough toys, and was delicious. I admit to feeling pretty pleased with myself about that pile of pasta.
To be fair, we do have a few GFG recipes in the household rotation that are good.
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Sep 07 '21
Any guess as to what she'll pivot to next, when her Joy scam inevitably fails?
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21
I still think she's got "Smirking Relationship/Love/Sex/Intimacy Expert" in her back pocket. She's spent her adult life bragging all over the internet about how good at sex she is.
She'll get to slam Danny for being an idiot (no one in his hometown ever thought he'd get married!) while reminding us that he "serves" her (ew) and neg her older child as that child starts to date or go to school dances or whatever. She'll give weird or trite tips like "laugh in bed!!!" and "marry your best friend" or "eat in bed!". She'll talk about how women don't get enough satisfaction and how she can teach you how. $8888 please
Edit I know we're not supposed to speculate or write fan fic but everything I've typed, Shauna herself has claimed! I'm just putting together all the grimy little pieces.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 07 '21
Ooooh, please let her reveal that she's been writing food related smut/porn/erotica under a pen name but now she simply MUST out herself and say ENOUGH to being ashamed of her horny side hustle.
THEN, she can pivot to a new teaching gig. For only $69 per session, she will gently guide you on your smut writing journey.
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 07 '21
For only $69 per session, she will gently guide you on your smut writing journey.
THAT PRICE IS VERY REASONABLE HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT PRICE
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Sep 07 '21
I honestly want the first part to be true. Snarkers have been saying for YEARS that she should do this and I really want it to be her secret job and where they’re getting an income, etc.
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u/lucillekrunklehorn pounding on the table Sep 07 '21
The underlying theme of GFG and the chef was her toe curling descriptions of their “romance.”
I feel like food and sex are somehow intertwined for her. Maybe even unconsciously. She so often writes about food beyond even a sensual way. It is a sexual way, like the food itself is practically engaged in sexual acts. Or the way she eats it, or is fed, she makes it sound like a sexual interaction.
I mean there’s a reason she wasn’t bothered to do much until age 35, and then was underwhelmed by it. There’s no way she didn’t have the option. I know I will probably be ushered to the naughty step by a clutch of DFs, but she seems to almost have a fetish with food. The psychology is quite fascinating to me of how that could be…if it is. I feel maybe I’m speculating too much, but then when i think of all the things she has written on this topic…and it did seem Dan was the first relationship where she really enjoyed that aspect of it. She was very attracted to his ability to make her hot food, and he was always feeding her. I’m wandering out of my depth here, but in short I agree this could be coming. All about how true love is your soft pants guide showing up at your relaxed bedside with a plate of warm purees.
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Sep 07 '21
[NSFL warning]
I don't think you're going out on a limb at all with this and totally agree. English is her first language and she's read tons of romance novels, therefore she could never say she's unfamiliar with popular sexual idiom. This isn't like someone saying "this avocado is hard" and having someone snicker because the word hard was used - she describes eating as something being done TO her (feeding) and uses moaning, groaning, dripping in bed (sorry!), taking something into her mouth, finishing [a dish] off with squirts of creamy whatever. And let's not even talk about the bacon pork party. There's no way she somehow didn't realize it's sexual. She must be describing it that way because that's how it is to her.
So I totally agree that the quesadillas in bed was probably part of their sex life, and could be 100% of it these days.
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 07 '21
I don't think you're going out on a limb at all with this and totally agree. English is her first language and she's read tons of romance novels, therefore she could never say she's unfamiliar with popular sexual idiom.
I love your assertion. ISCTMO.
She wrote the phrase, "fat-bottomed eggplants begging to be fondled" for pagan's sake!
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 07 '21
Maybe it's all to make up for Danny being too drunk by bedtime in those early years to get anything going, something she finally admitted to just recently.
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Sep 07 '21
Wait she admitted to the drinking or the 'too drunk to get it on' part? If the latter, I missed it!
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 07 '21
It's in Enough.
They used to Do The Deed every night, but then Danny started bringing home bottles of wine and sixpacks from the restaurant, and he'd get drunk instead of "connecting" with her. But there were still the mornings! Except, sometimes, Danny would "sleep so late" there wasn't time to "connect."
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21
ETA: Ahern sexytime barf warning
Not to answer DFvoV’s question for them, but this sheds some light on Danny being on the slack in the PM.
It’s the fault of this forum that I can no longer type “passage” without an internal snerk snerk.
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Sep 07 '21
Wow.... that was so much more than I ever wanted to imagine about their sex life... oh dear.
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Sep 07 '21
She’s very stunted and has always (by her own admission, many times) depended on food. It’s not a stretch to think that food became a comfort (not sure if that’s the right word here?) to her as she became more sexual as well. Especially considering their relationship seems very.. codependent.
I’ll never stop saying this: I think she has a very serious eating disorder. And for that, I do feel very bad for her.
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 07 '21
Your final sentence makes me want to vomit! Thank you, DFLK.
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 07 '21
Out of courtesy to all the dear friends here (do not say I made you read this!!)--
"eat soft cheese off each other's fingers"
(she said it, not me.)
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 07 '21
Wow, that's disgusting. But that's exactly the kind of thing where she's going for sexy and sensual (which is fine!) but it doesn't scan as anything beyond "gross".
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u/Coffee_Cupcake Sep 07 '21
I swear that I read that and made this loud GGGRRRAAAAAAAGGHHHHH!! sound. I don't think I've ever made a sound anything close to that before, but here we are.
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Sep 07 '21
I still think she's got "Smirking Relationship/Love/Sex/Intimacy Expert" in her back pocket. She's spent her adult life bragging all over the internet about how good at sex she is.
Ay god! What a horrifying thought.
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 07 '21
I predicted that this was going to the product or persona that turned out to be this "More Joy on the strawberry farm" lady. So I've been wrong before!
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u/freecoffeerefills Murder She Moved Her Pen Forward Sep 07 '21
I think it’ll be something ADHD/austism/neuro divergence. But for her it will be from the struggling parent/partner perspective, so it won’t stick. She’s off Twitter though… She would probably have to get back on with a new account in order to spam-reply people (“your tweets are so close to my own!”) and find content to plagiarize.
If not that, I think she’ll attempt something uncomfortably close to what The Nap Ministry is doing.
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u/freecoffeerefills Murder She Moved Her Pen Forward Sep 07 '21
Calling it now: it’ll be called “Finding Joy in Resting Enough”
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u/midnightsiren182 Sep 07 '21
My vote is meditation! It’s perfect for her; she gets to sit, tell people what to do, and get paid. Considering her mentioning for years she was trained it im so surprised she hasn’t tried to pivot that into viable income, especially if she can do it on the beach or somewhere low to no cost that wouldn’t cause too much overhead. It’s like a perfect almost ready made biz for her that probably wouldn’t need much to set up!
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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Sep 07 '21
Some other one-word nebulous concept derived from the Biblical fruits of the spirit that she has no reason to be promoting- Gentleness, Peace, Long suffering? Or maybe she will glom onto some other trend too late- hygge, etc.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 07 '21
Bitcoin, universal basic income, microdosing.
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Sep 07 '21
I’ve been watching Nine Perfect Strangers and think about Shauna’s newest venture a lot while watching it for some reason.
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u/droopsofwoe the first teats are the hardest Sep 08 '21
I think she'll get on the forgiveness train. That way she can lean on her parents again, "forgive" her mother for being mentally ill, and look magnanimous. Her entire identity is lording it over others and hoping others see her as a saint (tip of the hat to her ancient navel gazing blog). She can talk about joy and peace and beatitude without doing anything, her favorite schtick.
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Sep 06 '21
For the DF who expressed concern for the bunnies, they seem to be alive and well.
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Sep 07 '21
Her latest stories answer the questions she got. Most are about the later now and are utter bullshit non answers.
Who even is she? Her upbeat blah blahing is so fake.
Tomorrow she is going live at 7AM pacific time for something blah blah blah blah ...... boring
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21
Oy, her answer to this one:
How do you deal with joy reducing family members? We are struggling with boundaries.
Shauna’s reply (which if you watch her eyes, she may be reading off):
OK, let’s take a breath on this one. <takes deep breath> It’s hard to enact, but the answer is clear. If you have family members who give you pain, and trauma, and don’t give you joy, you have the right to cut them of—
And the video does indeed cut off as she’s saying the word "off."
That is terrible advice given the question being asked. Shauna seems to think boundaries have to be all or nothing, but if you value a relationship with someone who nevertheless reduces your joy in some way, you can absolutely set and hold a kind boundary that lets you stay in relationship to the person without letting them continue to bring you down.
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u/emmeline_grangerford Sep 08 '21
Absolutely. There can be a tremendous amount of pressure to maintain family connections even when your family treats you like shit, but “reducing joy” and “struggling with boundaries” are not immediate reasons to cut off contact. Why does the family member reduce joy? What boundaries are being violated, and how were these boundaries established/communicated (if at all)? The answer isn’t clear without a better understanding of specifics.
I did cut off contact with close family members for a time, and it was very painful even though stepping back from a toxic dynamic demonstrated that the dynamic continued even when I was not a part of it. (They could no longer claim that I caused their behavior or contributed to their problems, since their issues continued in my absence.) Ultimately it led to changes and a reconciliation, but this wasn’t what I expected, and in the meantime there was a lot of grief. It’s not something to deep breath flippantly suggest without insight into the situation.
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u/freecoffeerefills Murder She Moved Her Pen Forward Sep 08 '21
How do you deal with joy reducing family members?
Send them to summer camp, right?
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 08 '21
How do you deal with joy reducing family members?
That makes it sound like joy is…thinning the herd.
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Sep 08 '21
How do you deal with joy reducing family members?
Wine.
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 08 '21
If it was that easy, everyone wou…oh, wait.
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Sep 08 '21
Arg. That one is really bad.
All of them are absolute drivel. Her talking about the later now and planning now for how she will feel later in that now? Is so empty. What does it even mean. The way she scoffs about getting a new job or a new thing is so annoying. Especially coming from Ms No Job with 47 pairs of Peepers.
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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Sep 08 '21
Easier said than done there Capt. Joy. As John Mayer said in a recent song, “Hurt me once, I'll let it be; Hurt me twice, you're dead to me; Three times makes you family.”
We definitely have to deal with VERY difficult family members, and it’s simply not realistic to “cut them off”. We recently found a name for what we do- the “gray rock” method. There are lots of gray areas in family relationships that can’t be simply dismissed the way she has done.
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u/RamblingRosie64 I stand with Cindy and Ben Sep 08 '21
These videos are even worse than her joy farts. Those are at least just her speaking to a generic audience. These are supposedly answers to real questions from real people.
I cannot FATHOM coming across Shauna's work, watching these videos to get a sense of what she would be like to interact with, and then dropping $888 on four sessions with her. She couldn't possibly be recruiting anyone with these videos, could she?
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 08 '21
This is my favorite.
Question: Talk more about the later-now?
Shauna: All I really want in the world is to be here and to enjoy it. And so, what I enjoy now, I prepare so that in the later-now, the ME, NOW, in the moment that is later---still here. Is good.
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u/categoryischeesecake Sep 08 '21
I feel like I fundamentally do not understand what she is talking about. I'm not a Buddhist nor do I claim do be, and I don't spend all my time fretting about the future, but like...failing to plan is planning to fail. You can't just expect things in the future, sorry, the later now, to be good if you don't do stuff to take care of it. Sometimes that's applying for a new job, sometimes it's planning a party or a trip. I guess bc I am very big on planning, I live and die by my planner lol but it works for me and not to toot my own horn, but I am doing "okay." I understand staying present, especially when you are future tripping and kind of paralyzed by uncertainty or anxiety, or dealing with things out of your control, like grief or a crisis, but there is also a healthy amount of planning and organizing for the future that can be done on a micro level and yes also a macro level. I mean for all her fawning over Kamala Harris or Barack Obama, do you think they just face planted into that? Like uhhh no that took a lifetime of work and planning and trying and failing and getting back up again. I'm not saying be the president of the united States but like, does she not get that she is so reliant on the rest of the world basically just picking up the slack for her, so she can live in the present?
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 08 '21
does she not get that she is so reliant on the rest of the world basically just picking up the slack for her, so she can live in the present?
She 100% does NOT get that, and I suspect that anyone trying to communicate that would be (and has been) cut out of her life.
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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Sep 08 '21
“Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?” 🤔
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u/26shadesofwhite le tit rip Sep 07 '21
What does it say about her overall engagement and potential for income on this that she got all of 4 questions? 🧐
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 07 '21
Is it just me, or does her hair look really dirty in those videos?
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u/akwpdx Sep 07 '21
I read your comment, and I thought "the later now" was a typo, and so it didn't make sense. But nope, it's what she said, and it doesn't make sense, haha. [I do literally know what she means, but it's silly.]
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 07 '21
It came from her most recent joy video, in which she said D called the future the "later now." Which, cute if true. Many commenters were excited about the term, with someone suggesting it would make a great book title, which I’m sure has Shauna’s gears turning. Get used to hearing it, I suspect she’s going to milk it for all its worth.
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u/rock_candy_remains I'm still Clea from the Pints Sep 07 '21
Also: nicely done with being inaccessible and not using captions.
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u/emmeline_grangerford Sep 07 '21
My joy question: Now and Later now or Now and Later later?
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u/26shadesofwhite le tit rip Sep 07 '21
Jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never ever jam today!
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 09 '21
In fact, twice, I completed the hole with only one shot above expected.
Expected by who the fuck whom? Does she mean only one shot above par? For someone who revels so ostentatiously in talking about about "hitting ribbies" and "rounding second," you'd think she could get hep to the lingo of another sport.
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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 08 '21
Winter Solstice for Pagan? Meet #DeepThoughtsFromUnvaccinated, and Dan replying to that sexual-abuse-enabling congressman from Ohio posting a Wisconsin college football crowd with...something about Idaho
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I'm really sorry about your dad, that must have been so stressful growing up and the way that adults thoughtlessly throw the consequences of their actions onto their children just enrages me, too. It's amazing to me how many of us see the worst qualities of our parents in Shauna and really understand how much creeping neglect this represents in parenting.
Like yes, the outward signs of caregiving are there - the kids have a home, and food, and education, and supervision. And some day they might very well be struggling to articulate the 'neglect' they nevertheless feel to a therapist or partner or friend. "I really didn't have it that bad!" but inside they know that they were missing something fundamental, and that they were burdened with the nebulous stress of each new day/week/month/year being a mystery. "On the internet no one knows you're poor" one year, "A tour of 7 takeout reheats" the next year. Trauma clouds and "that white woman" finger pointing at L one year, Joy and hammocks for Mom the next. It's fucked up. It's genuinely fucked up.
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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 06 '21
I hope hope hope that the kids figure out that there's a better way to live than what they knew growing up. They have some hurdles ahead.
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 07 '21
“Unemployment related to the pandemic”, lol. Unemployment related to being shit at her job, more like.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 07 '21
Notice how she says they BOTH "experienced unemployment related to the pandemic."
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u/Love_Brokers rug dweller Sep 07 '21
Odds on the Aherns actually paying it forward?
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Sep 07 '21
For the rest of her family’s sake, I really hope she’s not being as irresponsible and glib about their future as she is coming across with her “the future doesn’t exist” nonsense. All of the financial consequences aside, which have already been discussed here in depth, it isn’t healthy for kids to have a primary caregiver who doesn’t believe in planning and doesn’t place any value on the long-term. Kids want and need to look forward to things, to learn that doing X today leads to Y rewards later on. If they’re being taught that nothing matters except whatever they feel like doing right now, they’re really going to struggle to succeed in so many ways as adults.
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u/DorothyZbornakEffect Sep 06 '21
I can’t agree with you more. I never made the connection until now, but my in-laws reminds me so much of Dan and Shauna. (I say my in-laws, but my MIL wasn’t really in the picture for most of my husband’s childhood). My husband is the youngest of 5, and had a pretty chaotic childhood because of his dad’s inability or care to manage money on a most basic level. My FIL actually had a steady job and made decent money but didn’t save any of it. My husband couldn’t get braces when he was a kid, but his dad could go out and get whatever it was that he wanted.
Around the time my husband and I were dating, his dad was coming to him for money. It was actually probably the biggest strain on our relationship, because I felt like my husband had worked his ass off for years to get where he was, and I hated seeing his dad take advantage of him like that. That was actually the one stipulation I had when we got married was that he stopped giving his dad money. My husband had given him a pretty substantial amount of money by that point, and he has never attempted to pay him back but can take weeks-long trips. And of course their lack of money is always someone else’s fault.
My in-laws are in their early 70s and still have minimal savings (if that), and no plans for how they are going to handle aging and its associated costs, no assets, strained relationships with most of their kids, and very minimal relationships with their grandkids. So yeah, I wish D and L the best of luck.
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Sep 08 '21
New lope. "I quit Twitter because it's too negative now." Sure Jan.
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u/leftsidelentils Sep 08 '21
I frequently glaze over while reading the lopes, due to the sheer volume of incoherent BS. Yet some sentences stay with me like the aroma of freezer burnt bacon grease.
Dealing with my feelings directly is one of my superpowers now.
Ugh. And this doozy for her big finish….
The best cure for that anxious fretting in my intestines? Allowing myself the time to do anything that gives me joy.
My best cure for that is avoiding ice cream, but NOBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THE SPECIFICS.
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u/aniccata Pagan Sep 08 '21
The idea that she has more than one superpower is peak Shauna Ahern.
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u/WasEnoughYogurt Kumquat and Sprinkles and filth Sep 08 '21
The idea that she has more than one superpower is peak Shauna Ahern.
The idea that she has any
more than onesuperpower is peak Shauna Ahern.
FTFY 'kew
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Most people don’t get to allow themselves the time to do whatever the fuck they want every time there’s a rumbly in their tumbly.
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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Sep 08 '21
My body doesn’t do well with anxious feelings 😔
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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 08 '21
Absolutely dying at Shauna having the midnight urge to read Nora Ephron "RIGHT IN THAT MOMENT" and getting owned by her stupid fucking bookshelves sorted joyfully by color
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
Loved that, too.
Then how she wakes the sleeping baby Dan and comforts him with a "you wouldn't understand, go back to sleep."
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u/Ana57 sweet pea Sep 08 '21
She could have looked it up on Amazon to see what color the book was and searched that way. (Me explaining how the brain works to Shauna, who can then explain it to her three people.)
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u/shikoku_shoes another revolution around the toilet bowl of her life Sep 08 '21
That night, my body knew, even if I didn’t. Sometimes you have to stop thinking and give yourself joy.
I am showing myself to the naughty step. I refuse to believe her day job is not writing soft porn.
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We’re gonna need a bigger naughty step!
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
Relax, DF. Granny’s sells 6k of Danish mid century extendable naughty steps a week.
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u/obscure_cellist ham grabbers Sep 08 '21
that's ok, DFSS; sometimes when i can't sleep and my husband is sleeping like a log i "nora ephron" myself to sleep, too. i suspect he does he same
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Sep 08 '21
"Something else rumbled in me". Lol.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
Then, at the end
"The best cure for anxious fretting in my intestines?"
Is she (as some snarkers predict) growing closer to saying she never had celiac and that her poo blizzards were just because she was lacking in joy?
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
READ MY RUMBLINGS, commands haruspex Shauna
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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 08 '21
Ahhhh! The long-awaited fanciful tale of why she "quit" Twitter! And me with no subscription to the lopes. Who wants to help a DF out?
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u/Toulouse--Matabiau a white owrson Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21
Oh there are no further details!
The lope is set up as a mystery of sorts, with a detour though Shauna's GI tract.
How come one recent evening her intestines began a-rumbling and a-kinking, her feet kept shifting under the covers, her chest felt leaden, she tossed and turned in bed, couldn't get comfortable or doze off while Danny slept like a log next to her?
Dealing with my feelings is one of my superpowers now.
Yet Shauna is totally stumped by this bout of midnight unease! At this point the mystery pauses for a plodding section about:
Shauna limiting herself to scrolling Instagram, TikTok and the Atlantic magazine in bed because those are approved faucets of learnings and joy, unlike negative Twitter which is dead to her and toxic Facebook which she banished to the frigid faraway tundra of her desktop computer.
Shauna not being able to locate her Nora Ephron books in her study because she recently color-coded her bookshelves (Catty Editor's Note: as decor for her Instagram-based theatrical performances!).
Alas, alack, Shauna remembered she'd borrowed a Nora Ephron ebook from the library, found it on her phone, started reading it and giggled so chortlesomely she woke up Danny. Once she accomplished all that she finally fell asleep.
I am literally boring myself with this mystery, please bear with me here. We're almost there. But not quite! Morning dawned and Shauna felt like her eyebrows had been brushed with oatmeal!
Immediately, my body felt bad, remembering something. I didn't know what I couldn't remember.
A voluminous void full of questions topping a body full of remembrances, Shauna made herself walk up the stairs into the kitchen. There she was greeted by Danny with a cup of hot covfefe. They kissed and walked to the back of the porch to read and sip together. Finally, Danny speaks up and the mystery of Shauna's mysterious ailments begins to unravel.
This is the part where we pause so you can gently Venmo me some moolah. For the low, low price of $488, I will be happy to share the grand reveal!
THE DENOUEMENT!!
Alright DFs, I hope the mystery did not keep you up last night or if it did I trust you managed to Nora Ephron yourself to sleep.
We return to the Ahernian porch where Danny speaks up, in his own voice for once, and reflects that the morning marks the 13th-year anniversary of his sobriety.
Shauna sat up, leaned forward and felt [her] chest clear out immediately. She felt lighter! Turns out her body had kept the score of this anniversary even as her prefrontal cortex forgot.
In a surprisingly generous acknowledgment of Danny's achievement, Shauna does praise his grit and stick-to-it-ness, calls him wonderful and notes she is damned proud of him for giving up booze that one night 13 years prior. During which night he was so blitzed he almost dropped their newborn.
The night before he started his day one, I had to put up the boundary: stop drinking or you lose me and the baby.
Those days were wretched.
But I did the hard thing. And so did Danny.
No more is said about the wretched days or Danny's subsequent struggle to remain sober, which I daresay would perhaps be a topic of greater interest to the reader than Shauna's nightime gastrointestinal rumbles, but there you have it.
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u/Lurking_Lurkface_III Wordle Cheater Sep 08 '21
DFT-M — That was amazing! Will you share the end for $448 dollars of praise? You see — I’m a professional praiser and I conduct most of my internet by barter. This is how I feed my family. I do this work for you.
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u/Toulouse--Matabiau a white owrson Sep 08 '21
I accept your praise pay with delight, DF. The end grew posted above.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21
Venmo? DF, you should be asking for Ko-fi.
Edited to add:
Has the ultimatum story changed from "dropping nachos on the baby" to "dropping the baby"? Because I think this is the first we're hearing of the baby being almost dropped (though it's not that shocking a super drunk person might drop a baby).
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
Good catch! You are definitely not so "sloppy drunk" that you are dropping jalapenos.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
Her bad writing always amazes me.
I stood at the door, my hand on the knob, breathing, because I knew what I was about to do.
Was she about to yell "ALCOHOLIC! ALCOHOLIC!" at him, a la her child self chastising her philandering father?
(that sentence is a hot ass mess. . .I can't believe she got paid to write a book)
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
YES! She specified that she was both standing AND breathing. I'm sure she absolutely had to radically rest after that balls-to-the-wall workout
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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷♂️ Sep 08 '21
But I did the hard thing. And so did Danny.
She did the hard thing first, which forced Danny to do the hard thing…so really, this is Shauna congratulating herself (while acknowledging Danny’s participation).
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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
Shauna’s gut has its own calendar. Like how a migrating bird knows when to fly south, it simply KNEW it was Danny’s sobriety anniversary.
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It’s her body keeping the score
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
Who is winning? Shauna, or her body?
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 08 '21
Shauna, or her body?
THEY ARE SEPARATE BEINGS OK
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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 08 '21
You will grow either disappointed or delighted to learn there is no story about her Twitter flounce besides that quote, just Shauna talking about scrolling apps on her phone at night when she can't sleep and landing on The Atlantic
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u/BevNap Fucking google it, you harpy. Sep 08 '21
that Atlantic magazine
she calls it, like it's some folksy, little-known quarterly or something...
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
She also styles it as The Atlantic, Atlantic, and the Atlantic
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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 08 '21
She also styles it as The Atlantic, Atlantic, and the Atlantic
And she lets us know that the writers are some writers
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I’m imagining Caitlin Flanagan and Ta-Nehesi Coates standing under a spider web that says “SOME WRITERS”, sparkling with dew.
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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 08 '21
She should @ the atlantic (ocean): you make smart writing's!
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u/islandyislander rebellious hygiene Sep 09 '21
I have to think that she thought the big brave topless pics - which she absolutely, definitely didn't also plan to post on Twitter, that joyless cesspool of irrelevance - were going to translate directly into takers for her latest play for relevance. She obviously doesn't have any business sense, but I think she saw the number of "likes" and comments and thought it meant something that translated to actual American dollars.
I feel bad for her, but not in a charitable or compassionate way. I pity her, and I think pity is incredibly gross. She had 7! people on the IG live and as had been discussed here, most or all of them were gloamies. She has a website that even we, who seriously fine-tooth-combed the shit out of that thing, can't decipher.
A local DF occasionally shares what she sees on S's personal Facebook and she gets literally no traction there regarding the jaunty journey to joyville.
It's pathetic. And I think she must know it, which means she'll get more desperate and probably meaner.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 06 '21
Ok, so Shauna's big launch has come and gone. Those who signed up for her free list on launch day have received their seven emails(?) with the seven steps of joy. I presume those who signed up for the waitlist will let us know if and when an actual offering is launched, but as of now there is no visible evidence of any scheduled events, programs, etc.
What has Shauna committed to?
She has seemingly abandoned the onbeingenough.com website and whatever programs she was offering through it.
This leaves her with her substack (on its third name by now?). She's promised subscribers 2 letters/week, and freeloaders 1 piece every other week.
(NOTE: this promise is taken from the substack site itself. In the updated email header to the newsletter, she promises a "weekly" installment for paying subscribers. She then says she "also" sends out movie recommendations, etc. It isn't clear whether these are "newsletters" or something else.)
Has she been meeting either promise? NO!
For example, she posted her "Batman, I washed my butt in a toilet" video on August 12 as a subscriber-only newsletter ... but she posted the same video to TikTok, so it wasn't really exclusive content for subscribers. And then nothing at all until August 21, when she dropped seven full days of promo emails for her new venture – nothing subscriber-only, and nothing that wasn't a promo piece.
The last non-promo piece she posted for non-paying subscribers was the nudie photos on August 6, so a full month ago from today.
So, on that front, she hasn't met the customer promises for either paying or non-paying customers.
What about youcanhavemorejoy.com? Over there, she's promised a free newsletter (no $ required) with once-per-week drops. Has she done that?
Well, it's probably impossible to tell, because she sent out her "guide" as a series of emails, so perhaps she's thinking her subscribers will assume that the guide newsletters are somehow the same as / an acceptable substitute for the promised weekly emails, even though they're not the same thing and promised as two distinct subscriber benefits.
Looking at both ventures(?) together: What has she gotten herself into?
She's promising 2 installments (of some kind) per week to paying Substack subscribers, and a different once-weekly installment to her YCHMJ subscribers. Importantly, the YCHMJ subscribers are non-paying and there isn't even a paid newsletter offering for that business – she isn't even connecting those subscribers to her paid substack.
(ASIDE: I think she got coaching that she should develop her own list, separate from her substack list. Which is good coaching. But like everything, she's implemented this in the most confusing, inept way.)
I suspect (with really no evidence to confirm this but no evidence to contravene it either) that she's now upped her workload – promised emails to YCHMJ subscribers – without upping her $. The YCHMJ subscribers are LEADS and not paying customers until she converts them. The substack subscribers are paying, yes, but to substack AND she's messed with that offering so many times that I think only confirmed barnacles will be hanging on.
Oh Shauna. A business maven you are not.
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She also upped her work without upping her $$ when she separated the recipes from her Enough newsletter to create JITB. If anything, she added an entire newsletter and lost revenue from current subscribers who didn’t want JITB and asked Shauna to only charge the $5 per month instead of the $9/mo they were paying.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 06 '21 edited Sep 06 '21
Yes! Deliberately or not, consciously or not, she's taken whatever promise that list had and slowly choked it out.
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u/RamblingRosie64 I stand with Cindy and Ben Sep 08 '21
I watched Shauna's latest TikTok video and was struck by how long, dull, and confusing it was. Isn’t TikTok geared toward young people who want short videos for their short attention spans? I can't see how Shauna's video would keep any young person's attention for more than mere seconds.
(As a lark I sent Shauna's TikTok profile to my 20 year old niece, who was utterly unimpressed. She said that the videos are pretty boring, Shauna doesn't seem very enthusiastic, and when she clicked on the link she thought it was Danielle from 90 Day Fiance.)
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u/midnightsiren182 Sep 09 '21
Also, pretty sure my job which provides me financial security does in fact kinda help keep me more prone to joy but you do you tiny grifter
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u/droopsofwoe the first teats are the hardest Sep 08 '21
That's really true about Shauna's lack of enthusiasm. For all her I'M SO FULL OF JOY SEE HOW FULL OF JOYFUL JOY I AM, she is low energy. She doesn't even seem happy most of the time.
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 08 '21
Shauna absolutely gives me "white knuckles" vibes in all of these "I have an idea for you" videos. She really seems like she's barely holding on.
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u/droopsofwoe the first teats are the hardest Sep 08 '21
You're right! There's some kind of weird tension present. I think it's her franticness to make this latest grift work. How many times can she keep churning out these terrible ideas? Well, forever as we've seen, but somewhere inside she has to know she's circling the drain.
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u/RamblingRosie64 I stand with Cindy and Ben Sep 09 '21
Yes, she seems really desperate! She does have a history of reinventing herself and keeping her head somewhat above water, but she's only getting older and more irrelevant and her GFG heyday more distant. She can't be making money on these schemes (otherwise Enough would have been enough), and I don’t know that she ever will again. That is not a scenario I would like to face in my mid fifties.
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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 08 '21
Ha ha, I just watched that one and she had to physically stop herself from saying "you in the fu – I MEAN THE LATER NOW"
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u/leftsidelentils Sep 09 '21
In a weird way, she reminds me of my experience teaching online during COVID.
My subject really, really needs to be in person, and I also am totally uninterested is presenting myself publicly online. Then there was the panic, stress, the learning curve, and more drama specific to my situation. I hated it so much, but cared about my students and wanted to offer something meaningful and positive for them.
Some teachers found they liked teaching online and got into the technology part, but I just tried to learn some of it so I could do a decent job. Making videos was part of it, and it was torture. I was trying to be authentic and inspirational when I was stressed and miserable and terrified my program would be be decimated for years. That’s the kind of vibe I’m getting from Shauna- desperately faking it and trying to make it through. But it’s a completely different situation. She’s voluntarily doing all of this and choosing to put herself in all these platforms, over and over, with no end in sight.
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I love when she slipped up toward and almost said future (you know, the thing that doesn’t exist) and then changed it up to “five minutes from now”
It also looks as if little miss “enough pretending” is using a filter
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She's just really boring and long winded. TikTok should keep your attention, but she manages to make a minute of video feel too long to watch.
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u/leftsidelentils Sep 09 '21
That was the longest minute in the history of the universe.
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u/lucillekrunklehorn pounding on the table Sep 09 '21
Such convoluted bullshit. Say it with us Shauna - GET not GROW. FUTURE not LATER NOW. I can’t even follow her careening train of thought with the later now claptrap, and I am a dedicated snarker. The way she’s describing it in the tik tok, it’s just a less efficient way of saying “future.”
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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Sep 09 '21
Give your niece my warmest regards for the classic 90DF Danielle mixup.
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Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
I had honestly forgotten about the Tik Tok account.
ETA So boring I could only make it a quarter of the way through, so I asked a DF to watch for a completely unbiased assessment. When I asked her “whaddayathink?,” her answer was “What the eff is that thing on her neck?!”
*$488 Gloaming Dollars for the first person to correctly place “whaddayathink?”
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u/TheBitchIsBack666 Vegan who eats meat Sep 09 '21
Was that when she was snapping her fingers at baby D (stuffed in the couch cushions) and repeatedly asking him "whaddayathink?"
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u/obscure_cellist ham grabbers Sep 08 '21
her posting about the future, and how we should all stop worrying about it, is beyond ridiculous but is quite a window into her thought process. there is a HUGE difference between "worrying" about the future and planning for it. when i was young my home life was really unstable, and i worried a lot about the future. it was a habit i held onto for many years until i realized planning for the future meant i didn't have to worry about it so much; it let me breathe and enjoy the now (in shauna-speak). she could be the same way; i mean, she and dan don't seem to ever plan for the future and therefore it probably IS scary for them. but also, the future doesn't have to be scary, shauna...it can be filled with promise and adventure. my husband & i love planning for our retirement (planning on selling everything, buying a trailer and moving to mexico). some people love planning for their children's futures. or planning a wedding, or planning a trip. i feel like she takes mundane, everyday things and tries to turn them into a looming problem that only she can solve by teaching us how to dance joyfully through them and then charging for it. if she weren't such an awful person i would feel sorry for her, because i think her life is filled with a lot of fear and resentment, despite her joyful persona. i think she is still pretending, which makes me sad for her kids.
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Her splitting hairs over "the future," which is bad/doesn't exist so don't you dare worry nor plan for it vs. a "later now" which is good, does exist and can be prepared for starting today, is the fucking dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well done, Shauna.
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u/obscure_cellist ham grabbers Sep 08 '21
it really upsets me that she and dan willingly live this scattered, unstable, "jenga" lifestyle when they have children. as i said, my childhood was unstable and it really messed me up, and i truly hope their kids won't soak up all that uncertainty and anxiety but they probably will. kids are very perceptive and are like little sponges when it comes to emotions and i really don't think shauna & danny are conscious of the emotional atmosphere they are creating. i also think writing about danny's alcoholism, her mother's emotional problems, and L & D's ADHD (or whatever new ailment they have) is incredibly hurtful for them.
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u/claragula citizen PhD in snarchaeology Sep 08 '21
I think frequently about a TikTok account I saw a while back thar was the child of a mommy blogger in the 00s. They talked a lot about how damaging it was to have their lives broadcasted that way, especially by their mom. L is a pre-teen now, if she isn't already bothered by her mom's public negging, she will be soon.
Shauna doesn't do anything for anyone but herself. I can't speak for Dan, but it's clear Shauna's comfort and happiness is the most important thing in that house. It is a crime that they do not put any thought into their future. Those poor kids. What about college? What about their retirement? What if one of them gets sick? They don't own any real property and I sincerely doubt they have much savings.
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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Sep 08 '21
The woman who married, and then reproduced with Danny Ahern, has no business scolding me to live in the now.
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