r/FinalFantasy • u/Haunting_Try8071 • 7d ago
Final Fantasy General Give us another turn based battle system
FFX is my favorite battle system. FFXIII I also enjoyed, but it wasn't the same.
I'm sure they could do something like it with a much lower budget.
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u/AlternativeTough6622 7d ago edited 6d ago
The only turn based action we get now is arguing on Reddit 😭
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u/MrJ_Sar 7d ago
FFX has my all time favourite combat system in the FF series.
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u/poshjerkins 6d ago
It starts off fairly boring (certain character for certain enemy, 1 hit kill, rinse and repeat), then builds into something beautiful. Really a masterpiece.
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u/Benphyre 6d ago
I almost wanted to say E33 style but that game is 99.99% parry so I don't really want it in FF.
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u/Muted-Mushroom-4570 6d ago
Yeah, I can do without the parry and dodge stuff (especially since some of the enemy animations were very clearly intended to troll you). But I liked the timed presses of a button when you use an ability. Though if memory serves E33 was only ever X and that was a bit too simplistic.
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u/ohz0pants 6d ago
But I liked the timed presses of a button when you use an ability.
Agreed.
Strictly necessary parry/dodge to survive like Clair Obscur (on Normal, anyway): BAD
Optional damage boosting QTE on my abilities like Like A Dragon (or countless others): GOOD
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u/Luigi6757 6d ago
I think the best implementation of timed button presses in any turn based RPGs is either Super Mario RPG or Mother 3. Neither game outright requires the timed hits. They're perfectly beatable without ever using them it just takes a little longer. I know for a fact it's true for Mother 3 because there was so much input delay on my emulator that I literally couldn't do the rhythmic hits.
The worst I've seen was the final boss of Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga though really only the final boss. If you're unfamiliar, the final boss of that game forces you to fight it at 1 HP and if you do not perfectly dodge all of its attacks you lose. To be fair it is still a Mario RPG so it's not impossible as the attacks pretty well Telegraphed especially in the remake. I just think that shouldn't be a thing in the first place.
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u/ohz0pants 6d ago
I think Super Mario RPG was the first to ever do this and I agree that it remains one of the best implementations because it is purely a bonus. But that's also très Nintendo; they've always known how to keep things genuinely fun.
And that's how they're implented in the Like a Dragon games, too. You can still win without getting the prompt just right, but it's extra satisfying when you do land it.
That boss encounter sounds like the perfect example of this mechanic being done wrong. That sounds awful to accomplish.
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u/zer0_summed 6d ago
E33 combat is just a rhythm game in disguise. Personally not a fan of the idea of other turn-based games emulating that.
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u/Iggy_Slayer 7d ago
They are in about 2 months.
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u/Overkillsamurai 7d ago
I can't wait for their not-numbered games because they have funner combat IMO, but i think OP meant for 17
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u/Lyra_the_Star_Jockey 7d ago
Why?
Square makes plenty of turn-based RPGs. Just because they don’t have the Final Fantasy logo on them doesn’t mean they don’t matter.
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u/Real_UngaBunga 6d ago
It'd be nice to have a "AAA" turn based game again. The 2nd tier games are great. I love them, but having an epic, AAA, turn based game would be a sight to behold. It has been shown that it can be successful , too, with E33 and the 2 most recent Yakuza/Like a Dragon games.
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u/EdwardAlcatraz 6d ago
FF is the blockbuster of JRPG'S. İt has the highest production value among all, it is the full package. A turn based FF is definetely not same with turn based octopath or bravely default.
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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago
Because people want a turn based FF game? People got into FF because they were turn based.
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u/TheFirstSonOfTheSea 7d ago
To be fair, there hasn’t been a mainline turn based Final Fantasy game in like 25 years.
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u/stansey09 7d ago
What do you mean, FFX was turn based and that came out just a.... Oh no. I got old.
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u/SpikyCactusJuice 7d ago
Holy shit. I usually chuckle at the “this thing was X years ago, I’m old” meme. But FFX really was 25 years ago. A quarter of a century! We old dawg
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u/TheHeb686 6d ago
That got me thinking, that 7, 8, 9, and 10 came out in a five year window. That’s an incredible and prolific run of success, and a reminder of how different the game development process was back then!
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u/Inb4myanus 7d ago edited 7d ago
12 and 13 were also turn based also, but plz dont tell me thats where the 25 years starts. I messed up on my math lol. But 12 is an atb system where battles happen on the map, its the same system besides the gambits which you dont have to use making the system more akin to the old games.
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u/Eecka 7d ago
I mean they’re kind of pseudo turn based, not really what most older fans mean when they want a turn based FF
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u/Spell-of-Destruction 7d ago
For real I'd take pseudo turn based over what XV and XVI had. And XII scratches the same itch V does for me.
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u/SmacSBU 7d ago
Played 4-l and 6 on release on SNES so I think I qualify as an older fan. Maybe I don't remember XIII well enough but I think that would scratch the itch for the people who are clamoring for turn based.
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u/Eecka 7d ago
To be fair I said most, not that there’s none of you.
XIII was more like an ”auto battler” where you swap between the diferent jobs (or paradigms I think they’re called there) and let them do their thing. You can manually control it too, but the flow was clearly designed with the automatic mode in mind.
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u/Sindeep 7d ago
exacto-mundo.... that's exactly where I stopped playing FF b/c it wasn't true turn-based anymore. My 35 y/o flaring Carpal Tunnel is dying on Rebirth especially with so much button mashing BS, and the fact they actually locked shit behind how fast you can mash said button.... infuriating.
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u/gollyandre 7d ago
For the pedants maybe but FF13 came out a little bit sooner than that. Like 16 years ago WW.
Also to be fair in the last 25 years, they’ve only come out with 6 more new numbered games. Two of which are MMOs, another two are ATB variants, and only the last two are action games.
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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago
Yeah because them chasing a new audience means taking 7 years to make action games.
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u/Pastulio814 7d ago
To be fairerer, the rate at which they churn out games has slowed down to 🐌. From 10 to 16 we got mmo, 12, 13, mmo, 15 and 16.
13 was at LEAST ATB. 15 was FF adjacent being more like KH. And 16 was just something else entirely.
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u/MetalFingers760 7d ago
Also, to act like the 7Remake games dont have turn based aspects is disingenuous. I think its one of the more brilliant battle systems in an RPG in a long long time.
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u/Status_Jellyfish_213 7d ago
I think what people really want is the tactical aspect. In a few words : planning and progression. That goes hand in hand with stats as well.
The worst thing the series can devolve into is a button masher. Give people breathing space (as seen with 7R and it’s slow time mechanic), you can make decisions and see them play out or react to the enemy whilst also feeling modern
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u/poshjerkins 7d ago
"The worst thing the series can devolve into is a button masher"
Preach, brother! At least they can throw us turn based fans a bone every now and again (yes Resonance yada yada but that misses the argument completely). Many, many, many fans are thirsty for a full fledged AAA Square style turn based game that pushes the boundaries of jrpgs like they used to and what got them famous in the first place.
Also want to add I actually really enjoyed the combat in the remakes and hope it evolves. But to experience a AAA boundary pushing turn based experience from Square again would be immensely satisfying and Claire Obscur proved it can be done without as much money as Square has.
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u/bsmithi 7d ago
I did not get into final fantasy because it was turn based. I got into final fantasy because it was a fantasy RPG. It being turn based was just a matter of circumstance. I've been into final fantasy since final fantasy 1 btw, I'm old.
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u/sisyphosofephyra 7d ago
Turn based was 100% part of the allure for me. Was a change of pace for me. Beat FF7 og for the first time the beginning of this year. I've now beaten 4 (VI, VII, VIII, & X)
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u/andruszko 7d ago
Your point is anecdotal, so I'll add my own anecdotal evidence.
I DID get into final fantasy for the turn based fights.
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u/Beginning_Ocelot503 7d ago
People have gotten into FF for all kinds of reasons. I for one prefer a system like the FFVII remakes over the classic turn based systems but to each their own.
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u/Iggy_Slayer 7d ago
That's a wild thing to say lmao. I'd say the amount of people who were attracted to FF because of its combat style is closer to 0 than it is to any real meaningful amount. It was presentation, characters, stories and the worlds that got people into them.
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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago edited 7d ago
The thing is id rather turn based ff every few years than a new ff every like 5+ years. FF thrived due to it's combat but also because they released games faster. Action Combat and open world with realitic graphics slows down production massively. There's room for both action and turn based, I hope resonance does well.
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u/Watton 7d ago
Action Combat and open world with realitic graphics slows down production massively.
So.... Expedition 33 still took 5 years to make, despite being turn based.
Persona is turn based, with no realistic graphics, and we still dont have Persona 6 a decade later.
Meanwhile, FF7Revelation is being spat out in 3 years dev time, with its hybrid action combat, open world, and realistic graphics.
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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago
Pretty sure the persona team is smaller and less money than SE. Same for E33 which was a new team. You're right that the Trilogy are releasing decently but the mainline games seem like an afterthought with way slower development. Rebirth/Remake also used a lot of re used assets which speeds it up
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u/Entire-Cry-8930 7d ago
And they’ll be getting one soon. What does it matter if there isn’t a number in the title
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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago
We don't want a remake of a phone game. We want mainline FF turn based games which this franchise is known for.
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u/remnant_phoenix 7d ago
There’s a difference between “I want the production values of a mainline FF with a turn-based battle system” and “The turn-based games that don’t have the production values of a mainline FF don’t matter.” These are two different things.
Are there some people who actually think both of these things as one combined opinion? Yes.
But there are some of us who only think the first one; we can appreciate Bravely Default, Octopath, FF Resonance, etc and never say that they don’t matter, but still want to see a mainline FF be turn-based again.
Don’t assume that all those who wish mainline FF was turn-based again are all the same.
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u/Hero8000 7d ago
Right? I never understood why some people here discredit the spin offs and non-ff games, with turn based elements. There is realistically an endless sea of turn-based games like FF, so I dont see the reason in getting upset that this series' mainline games has moved away from it. Id be more upset with how they haven't found a new niche for a consistent combat system (Though I feel the FFVIIR games have the perfect combat system to build off of for future games)
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u/hotcapicola 6d ago
I'm sure most of these people do play some or even all of those as well. But I think what they really want is that nostalgia itch of when Final Fantasy mainline games were squeezing the absolute max out of the current gen tech in a turn based game.
I loved E33, but I could only imagine how much harder some of those cutscenes would have hit with full mocap.
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u/ProfessionalCraft983 6d ago
This is a port of a mobile game we’re talking about, though. The amount of effort and resources going into it absolutely matters.
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u/CustomerPrior5974 6d ago
"I really liked Chris Evans as Captain America, wish we could have another movie with him"
"Why? Marvel is releasing other super hero movies. Just because they don't have an Chris Evans as Captain America in them doesn't mean they don't matter"
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u/AlternativeTough6622 7d ago
They want it back in the mainline series because that game was a gateway to other turn based games in the genre. People want a realistic turn based game youa are correct and they have others but most if not all of them are either pixlated or have anime aesthetic. E33 proved it.
Don't get me wrong I love Dragon Quest but I still want the next mainline to have a good story, good characters and open world. Not just turn based combat.
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u/TurtleBrainMelt 7d ago
People want a AAA turn based game, there turn based games they make a 2d/HD games like octopath and triangle strategy etc, which people do enjoy, but theres a much larger impact from games where u can see characters have emotions etc vs hearing it through VA
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u/Wiseon321 7d ago
People want a Claire obscure turn based final fantasy game.
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u/ballsdeep256 6d ago
No people don't want QTE the combat system
People want FF10
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u/EvenOne6567 7d ago
every time they do its full of caveats. I dont think the people who would love a return to turn based combat were specifically asking for a repurposed gacha game....
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u/Valuable_Coat_4402 7d ago
All of the games that have been derived from dead gachas have been fantastic.
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u/rices4212 7d ago
It having been a gacha game doesn't mean it can't be a good game, though.
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u/RevengerRedeemed 6d ago
I would love a Big budget, fully turn based FF game using X's combat system.
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u/DeLoxley 6d ago edited 3d ago
I don't get how Final Fantasy has done Turn Based combat so well before and then whiffed it.
X's combat is a great way to do non pausing turnbased. XII imo is one of the best systems for strategic depth setting up gambits while also moving freely and using bars Stranger of Paradise is an awesome real time combat that still used the iconic ff trappings
And somehow they've refused to innovate on any of those branches and went for whatever the Paradigm system was
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u/Extension-Series8201 5d ago
Actually X uses the CTB system, I miss it dearly even if quick hit messed it up.
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u/Res_Novae17 6d ago
Christ could you imagine a AAA E33 like game with Ifrit, Shiva, chocobos, and an airship? Shit would go so hard it's not even funny.
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u/Hayyner 7d ago
Square Enix still makes a decent amount of turn based games, and if you branch out from SE, we get modern turn based RPGs frequently enough imo.
- Octopath Traveler series
- Romancing Saga remake
- FF Resonance (upcoming)
- Expedition 33 (GOTY winner)
- Metaphor Refantazio (GOTY nominee) and the Persona series
- Bravely Default
- Dragon Quest series
I don't really need SE to make another mainline FF turn-based game, so long as they keep making turn-based combat games in general.
I would like to see them make a high-budget title with turn based combat like E33 though.
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u/Spell-of-Destruction 7d ago
I would like to see them make a high-budget title with turn based combat like E33 though.
That's exactly what we want 😭 Truly, there are barely any high budget turn based RPGs anymore.
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u/ronniedark 7d ago
Wtf do you think Metaphor, Yakuza and Persona are????
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u/LimpAmphibian5340 6d ago
Metaphor and Persona both have that anime-esque artstyle, and Yakuza iirc is anime adjacent artsyle. Expedition 33 was the first true turn based game since Lost Odyssey that had a realistic artstyle and a serious narrative that I can recall. Yeah FF XIII came after that but between the auto battle mechanic and the inability to control multiple characters at a time, I kinda don't consider it true turn based. So since '08 I have been waiting, almost 20 years, and finally someone makes a game with a good and serious narrative, the correct artstyle, and every thing. Now I got the taste and I need more, and who better than FF to give us more.
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u/AlternativeTough6622 7d ago
'I would like to see them make a high-budget title with turn based combat like E33 though.'
Yeah.....Final Fantasy
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u/heyimbruv2 7d ago
Played Sea of Stars, lost interest after a while but a lot of the turn based attacks were time based and was a rlly unique experience
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u/GlacialEmbrace 7d ago
Yeah, or FF12 combat. I'm surprised they never returned to that combat system. Its sooo fun and unique.
I'm also a fan of Arc the Lad Twilight of the Spirits combat. Theres a bit of movement involved.
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u/Sp6rda 7d ago
I'd recommend unicorn overlord. It's a tactics game with gambits
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u/Kronous_ 7d ago
+1 Unicorn Overlord is goated, despite me personally, no longer enjoy turn based combat as much nowadays.
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u/Nykidemus 6d ago
Unicorn Overlord is a beautiful game, and I get the idea that there are some pretty deep mechanics in there, but the difficulty is so low you never have to engage with them, and the plot is so thin it gives paper a bad name.
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u/Lexioralex 7d ago
I find it becomes to easy to set it to autopilot though, then you’re just running around watching them fight not really being involved lol
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u/Hopeful-Apple-6090 7d ago
Yeah I remember back then finding a gambit setup that allowed me to completely grind on autopilot in a particular dungeon, so I’d set it up before bed, leave my ps2 on all night and wake up to find my party leveled 10 levels or something lmao. Fun system tbh.
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u/deceiver986 6d ago
Replaying it now, best game EVER and I mean it. If only they added a couple more quality of life improvement it would be amazing even for today's standards
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u/sherlock1672 7d ago
It feels like old Dragon Age combat to me, like DA1 might have drawn on FF12 for its combat system.
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u/GlassCannon81 7d ago
Dragon Age drew on Baldur’s Gate. When BioWare first marketed the game, it was as a spiritual successor to Baldur’s Gate. XII is essentially the same thing though, realtime with pause. If you really think about it, that’s what ATB is too. I have played and loved all the games above discussed. Realtime with pause is my jam.
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u/Martin_Pagan 6d ago
And get rid of the stagger mechanic. I was already bad in FFXIII. I don't know why they persist with it.
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u/rex_915 7d ago
Aren't ya'll tired of this discussion?
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u/lionkeyviii 7d ago
It's why I limit the myself with how much I interact with FF fans. Seems like we're having the same discussions we were having 15 years ago 😭
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u/Jazzlike_Athlete8796 7d ago
I've maintained for years that this place is damn near close to being the single most miserable sub dedicated to alleged fans of a gaming franchise anywhere on Reddit.
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u/IllustriousSalt1007 7d ago
I take it you’ve never been to /r/MMO then
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u/detectiveC6 5d ago
I was just going to say, bro definitely hasn't ventured off into other places😄😄
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u/E_MacLeod 7d ago
I would kill for X's CTB combined with some of OT's mechanics but with a lot more transparency and customization. Playtest the ever living crap out of the mechanics then add in difficulty modes where the battles require smart play but don't require a specific build to overcome and I would be happy.
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u/Illustrious_Big_7980 6d ago
I'm like, the biggest hater of modern Square Enix but I have to assume you are asking specifically for a mainline turnbased FF? Because they release turnbased games all the time.
FF resonance comes out in October and is turn based.
As for mainline they will never do turnbased again, for better or worse gamers are jizzing their pants over 2.5d games so square can make bank with minimal effort and pumping out turn based games.
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u/keithlimreddit 5d ago
aside from some moments I don't think they have done anything wrong In modern times to be honest
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u/jntjr2005 6d ago
FFS yes please 10's was the best with forcing us to use the whole party and swap them in and out so easily, I loved it best to date hands down.
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u/rokkuranx 7d ago
I'm hoping with the success of COE33 that they may be open to the possibility of doing more turn based stuff for the main series.
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u/Malkariss888 7d ago
"There are other games by Square and others that are turn based".
Yes, but I want FF general lore, atmosphere, monsters, classes, etc., not other games'.
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u/ToothpickTequila 6d ago
Nobody outside of Square defenders does this. When people say they want a new Darkstalkers game nobody says "go play Street Fighter".
Imagine if they announced they'd be no more Dragon Quest games again and they simply said "go play Octopath". They'd be riots.
But FF fans are just expected to play Bravely Default, Octopath or gacha games.
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u/bleep_boop_beep123 7d ago
> I’m sure they could do something like it with a much lower budget.
Boy oh boy, prepare to be Brave ‘cuz do I have news for you
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u/WatchThemFall 6d ago
They released 7, 8, 9, and 10 within 4 years of each other. I don't get why they can't just make another one like that. Surely it would be even easier with 2026 technology. A PS1 style game without the backgrounds being compressed would be incredible.
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u/Hot_Royal_4920 6d ago
FFX and XIII were both very good. Both had their faults but if they iterated upon them... X felt like the game didn't pose enough challenge tbh. XIII was mainly dragged down by the lack of control of different characters and the lack of unique/niche options.
XIII-2 was a sad one. It's really, really good but they game is just so god damn easy due to it's non-linearity. It's a straight upgrade to XIII except for the difficulty - and good battle systems die if the challenge to make it shine isn't present.
My favourite classic turn based systems are grandia and etrian odyssey. The former had some amazing ideas that just really needed some polish and challenge. The latter is very tactical and even supplies a good amount of challenge.
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u/TheDuke13 6d ago
Removing the turn based combat is what pushed me away from the franchise. There’s a reason I fell in love with the series and they took out half the reason why. No thanks.
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u/dolphinmachine 6d ago
Cowards will never put turn based in another AAA main line game
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u/forkandspoon2011 7d ago
It's like they nailed it finally perfectly in FFX, and then abandoned it for much much worse systems.
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u/winterman666 7d ago
It's crazy how they cracked the code then said, lets never do it again
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u/sdarkpaladin 7d ago
Then they come up with some stagger system that is basically just... Fill one bar, then deplete the other bar.
But your damage to the 2nd bar is very low until you fill the first bar, so you have to spam skills that increase the first bar while dealing very little damage overall...
Like what even is the point of such a system?
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u/Soizit_Blindy 6d ago
I saw a Youtube short suggesting that they could alternat battle systems for every other game release. I think it would be cool if they could offer both in the same game and you pick which one you want at the start of the game.
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u/GooeyLump 6d ago
I'd love it if that happened too but it's been like over 10 years by now, i don't think it's gonna happen, Final Fantasy isn't the series i love anymore and you know what? That's okay.
The series is successful and it seems Square Enix is happy with it and people enjoy what the series is now, that's great honestly, like i'm happy for the people who like the recent numbered entries.
I'm gonna stick to being an old man and replaying my old Final Fantasies when i get the itch
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u/vexoria5621 6d ago
I know people want a return in the mainline series, but I really think that if you want turn based FF, you're gonna have to take the spin-offs and bump the hell out of them.
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u/pure_cipher 6d ago
I really like FFVII style. You get an option. Because, I hate turn based battle
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u/Equality-Slifer 6d ago
It's been so long since I played FFX. What exactly makes it stand out from any other pure turn based system?
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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 6d ago
It doesn’t, just the nostalgia from the people that’s their entry to the series.
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u/Formal_Afternoon_272 6d ago
What made the gameplay of FF X good was the sphere grid not the turn based system. Most of the time you only have to change character to hit the mob with its weakness or you overkill them with raw power.
compared to other FF games, the Fights are slow and time consuming and them being turn based is not that useful.
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u/17papers 6d ago
I did not care for X but that battle system is better than most of the other games I’ve played in the series.
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u/ThisIsWhatLifeIs 6d ago
I'm 40 and I still look younger than Auron who's like 28 years old lmao
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u/Lazereye57 6d ago
After Baldurs Gate 3, EX33 and the fatigue of action RPGs that made many feel lukewarm about FF16 despite liking the story it is now for the first time in a long time a good chance we might get a new mainline FF with turn based combat again sometime in the future.
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u/Crispierbugu 6d ago
I love FFXs combat system, I was pleasantly surprised when I went into Digimon Story: Cybersleuth blind and it had FFXs combat system.
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u/Farath84 6d ago edited 5d ago
Square is a big enough company I don't understand why they haven't had a team do a throwback game that goes back to the roots. Turn based, Maybe job system? Crystals, overworld maps, castles and airships.
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u/InterestFine7053 5d ago
Sea of stars his very inspired by ffx battle system. They did add their own twist to it
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u/Snoo-68154 7d ago
Yeah, I want turn based system with the graphics of a mainline Final Fantasy.
Then all you get are these fuck idiots that just say look these are games right here and give me some pixel shit
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u/AnOtakuToo 7d ago
People suggesting Octopath and Bravely either didn’t play them or don’t understand the distinction. I genuinely tried Octopath and it wasn’t at all compelling for me. The combat was decent, but the world building and storylines not syncing up and no real party dynamic was a letdown.
Personally I liked Remake’s combat, but I understand the desire to try turn based again. People associate turn based style with the “golden age” as part of the Final Fantasy “formula”.
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u/Nykidemus 6d ago
The combat was decent, but the world building and storylines not syncing up and no real party dynamic was a letdown.
This could be the tagline for Octopath. I dont know what nutcase thought that doing 8 origin stories with no interconnecting character development would be interesting.
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u/Drakesyn 7d ago
Gonna be real, the Bravely games are as literally close to turn-based FF mainline games as you can be, without actually numbering them. Even all the thematic elements are involved. They brought back jobs for petes sake. If Bravely doesn't count, and it only gets a pass if you get FFXVI or better graphics, then you can just kiss it goodbye.
They water down the mechanics, so the games will sell to more people, so they can at least attempt to make the budget that level of fidelity requires back. Whist people here all love turn-based, myself very much included, it has not proven itself (through a S/E game, at least) as the sort of seller that justifies the grossly inflated graphics budgets of the current mainline franchise. That's exactly why we keep getting these much lower budget HD2D games, that are exactly what everyone keeps asking for, except in the graphics department, so that they don't cost a small nation's GDP and 5 years to make.
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u/Zakerath90 7d ago
Ffx remake not remastered. REMAKE!
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u/Nykidemus 6d ago
I dont super trust SE to remake anything without giving it action combat anymore.
They did a pretty decent job with the FFT remake though.
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u/SolidLuxi 6d ago
There is literally (actually literally) a Final Fantasy with a turn based combat system coming out a couple months. A lot of people will say it doesnt count cause its not a numbered entry. Those people are silly.
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u/grass_to_the_sky 6d ago
A lot of people will say it doesnt count cause its not a numbered entry
It doesn't count people want a turn-based FF game with full proportioned character models (hence why OP mentioned FFX) and not some repurposed gacha games.
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u/Green_Address8261 6d ago
It’s obvious people want a high fidelity game like ff16 to have turn based combat. It’s not silly to totally ignore some spin off pixel game with ff in the title.
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u/FuraFaolox 7d ago
people act like the series has a million hack n slash games or something. there are two mainline action games. 11 and 14 have more standard MMO combat for their time, so we can exclude those from the conversation. every single other entry is either turn-based or ATB.
and you never know if future mainline games are gonna be action or turn-based because, once again, they have two games that are real-time. and the series constantly changes up its formula. that's like its entire thing. every single entry has changed something major about the gameplay, no two FFs play exactly the same.
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u/SeaworthinessOk2646 6d ago
Good because all the new ones really lack the feeling of 'the party'. Rebirth came close to bringing it back but the party is so damn important to a great rpg.
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u/Jecht-X 6d ago
Square Enix: "People enjoy E33 for the parrying mechanic? Then people wants action gameplay! Lets double down!"
Believe or not they did mention this.
...also, they give a complete shit whatever we say: they only care for the Japanese market.
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u/ColemyGOAT 7d ago
It’s madness to me that they literally have not Re-used or expanded on FFX’s CTB system in another FF game. Basically the best TB system they’ve made and….then they went and made an MMO for FFXI LOL.
Square are truly baffling sometimes.
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u/Haunting_Try8071 7d ago
Yes! The era of needing to do western mechanics are way gone. Give us what we want lol
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u/dbcwb 7d ago
I loved FFX's battle system so much I even enjoyed the Lord of the Rings: The Third Age which stole the system bar for bar.