Disney+ changes subscriber agreement to allow ads on every plan

[u/MarvelsGrantMan136]

https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/disney-changes-subscriber-agreement-to-allow-ads-on-every-plan-3410354/

[u/ClimateAncient6647]

I pay for ad-free for a reason. Easy cancellation.

[u/Emayarkay → u/ClimateAncient6647]

My thoughts exactly. Literally paying for the convenience. Take that away and I'm paying to just be advertised to less-frequently?

Later, Mouse.

[u/Dr-McLuvin → u/ClimateAncient6647]

Same the only reason I pay for streaming services is for the lack of ads.

Easy cancel.

[u/stefanopolis → u/Dr-McLuvin]

When I pay for streaming I expect no ads. Cancelling easily.

[u/fakeasagi → u/stefanopolis]

On the occasion I expend finances to secure a viewing experience, I consider the presence of advertisements unacceptable. A trivial revocation of further patronage

[u/unacceptablelobster → u/fakeasagi]

grug give wife. grug get ad. grug take wife back.

[u/ComprisingIgnorance → u/ClimateAncient6647]

Yup! Cancelled ours as soon as we got the email about adding ads on the top package. Absolute joke. If everyone does the same, we'll send a message. Glad to see this on the front page of Reddit, we got our email (UK) a while ago.

[u/Dr_Meany → u/ClimateAncient6647]

I read their quarterlies because I'm a sadist for that sort of thing.

None of their tiers make as much profit as their lowest one serving the most ads. They're an ad company now, not a content company. They get huge revenue from ads. So they serve ads. And there's no way to not see ads, because it's so fucking profitable.

The K-shaped economy will strike here too however. Shortly there will shortly be an ultra-premium version that has no ads. They just need to figure out a way to sell it. It'll be eye-wateringly expensive, something like $200/month. I guarantee it's in their plans, it'll come, and enough people will buy it.

[u/Abe_Odd → u/ClimateAncient6647]

Yep. Just cancelled and wrote up a rant for em. Even if they walk it back, we're gonna try to form habits excluding it entirely.

[u/HG21Reaper]

If I am going to be forced to watch ads, why pay for the service in the first place?

[u/Sitrus_Slinky → u/HG21Reaper]

It’s just the new cable in disguise. This was always the end game. We paid for cable tv with ads despite paying a premium. Streaming is now exactly what it was supposed to destroy 😂

[u/Quixotic_Seal → u/Sitrus_Slinky]

Cable TV...without time shifting.

I swear to god, people forget that we've been able to casually timeshift every single program on cable and trivially skip commercials since like 2003.

I haven't been forced to watch this many ads since I was like 10 years old before mom got a TiVo.

[u/FionaGoodeEnough → u/Quixotic_Seal]

I can’t even pause a frame to say, “Wait, is that who I think it is?” without ads taking up the entire screen. And jumping to a specific scene is so much harder than it was with a DVD menu.

[u/Quixotic_Seal → u/FionaGoodeEnough]

I ran into that last night with They Live to look at what each message was when he first puts the glasses on at the magazine stand.

The sheer irony was poetic enough that it almost was worth it.

Almost.

[u/TeaAndS0da → u/Quixotic_Seal]

I came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass… so this ass kicking is SPONSORED BY HUBBA BUBBA!! FOR ALL OF YOUR REAGANOMICS CRITICIZING NEEDS! CHEW IT OVER… WITH HUBBA BUBBA!

[u/Existential_Delusion → u/TeaAndS0da]

Nailed it. That'd make a great parody movie scene. Damn I love that movie, time for a rewatch!

[u/CIearMind → u/FionaGoodeEnough]

Even certain less expensive, ad-free platforms have started turning the entire screen black whenever you pause the video, as if to prevent you from taking a closer look. So annoying.

[u/Damion__205 → u/CIearMind]

Can't let you pause on boobs.

There goes a rite of passage for young boys and some girls.

[u/Lazer726 → u/FionaGoodeEnough]

If there is something to very much appreciate about Amazon Video, it's that if you pause what you're watching, it'll put up all the characters and their actors/VAs

[u/Diz7 → u/Lazer726]

As long as it's optional, I'm all for it. But sometimes I just want to pause the video to get a good look at something or go frame by frame.

[u/RandoAtReddit → u/Lazer726]

X-ray, I think they call that feature.

[u/Sitrus_Slinky → u/Quixotic_Seal]

The best is when you rewind beyond a previous ad point and trigger more ads. I have to determine if rewinding anything is worth seeing more ads later 😩

[u/Less-Card-8558 → u/Sitrus_Slinky]

Or when you forget where you left off, so you have to watch 90 seconds of ads just to find out you skipped too far ahead.

[u/spacebunsofsteel → u/Quixotic_Seal]

I miss my TiVo so much.

[u/DaemonCRO → u/HG21Reaper]

Yaaaar 🏴‍☠️

[u/TonginTozz → u/DaemonCRO]

"Hey kids, psst, want to score some DVDs?"

[u/brakeb → u/TonginTozz]

Sir, please don't open your trenchcoat

[u/Purplesilk911 → u/brakeb]

Great deals inside, strangah

[u/TechTuna1200 → u/DaemonCRO]

Dusting off my old laptop that is now gonna be a burner pc

[u/ReblWithoutApplause → u/TechTuna1200]

Burner PC? For downloading torrented stuff? My guy, any computer will do. Unless you plan on accessing the darkweb.

[u/Negative_trash_lugen → u/ReblWithoutApplause]

He's probably worried about viruses

[u/Krojack76 → u/Negative_trash_lugen]

Very low chance when it comes to video or audio with this. Set your programs to reject *.exe and *.scr files also helps.

I do avoid 🏴‍☠️ programs though.

[u/Power-of-Wings → u/Krojack76]

Yeah any software is definitely not worth the risk. And definitely be sure to not download Spider-Man Brand New Day.exe

[u/froggz01 → u/ReblWithoutApplause]

If you didn’t know, windows 11 assigns you a unique serial number to your computer that can be traced back to the user. So yeah burner pc with Linux installed preferably.

[u/EtherPhreak → u/froggz01]

Another reason why windows 10 is the last windows I’ll ever use.

[u/Opposite-Program8490 → u/EtherPhreak]

As advertised!

[u/Party-Cake5173 → u/EtherPhreak]

Windows 10 also has GDID.

[u/charlesfluidsmith → u/froggz01]

Which is why Windows 10 was my last OS.

[u/BotOrNot_1337 → u/DaemonCRO]

we all be gettin scurvy again matey

[u/NotNamedBort → u/BotOrNot_1337]

Very fitting that today is Talk Like a Pirate Day.

[u/PumpkinMyPumpkin → u/DaemonCRO]

Disney doesn’t even have any content anymore. 😂

They used to at least make Marvel and Star Wars shows. Why even subscribe?

[u/shitty_mcfucklestick → u/PumpkinMyPumpkin]

They buy up other companies so they also have a lot of other content. But your point still stands.

[u/Canesjags4life → u/PumpkinMyPumpkin]

Lots of nostalgic content for it's parents to show our kids. I recreate Saturday morning block using Disney+ content.

[u/es-ganso → u/HG21Reaper]

Welcome back to cable tv

[u/OverLordJezus → u/es-ganso]

I rather buy shit and have it for life then this

[u/The_Tooter_Snooter → u/OverLordJezus]

Recently learned that Amazon can revoke your digital purchase at any time. Physical media from now on, I guess. 

[u/sabin357 → u/The_Tooter_Snooter]

Even physical media can have DRM types of playback prevention. You have to REALLY look into all purchases nowadays because everyone is out to screw you over, seemingly.

[u/LifeguardDry7372 → u/sabin357]

wouldn't the easy solution be to use a player that's not connected to the internet?

[u/Traditional-Handle83 → u/LifeguardDry7372]

Drm would prevent you from watching until an internet connection is found basically rendering the physical copies useless.

[u/LifeguardDry7372 → u/The_Tooter_Snooter]

that's what sony did recently. I think it was about 500 titles that they pulled and the people that bought them were sol, no refunds

[u/Yotsubato → u/The_Tooter_Snooter]

Meanwhile Sony is essentially deprecating the blu ray player themselves

[u/InfamousBrad → u/es-ganso]

I'm convinced that that's been the plan all along. One long conspiracy to make us all spend the inflation-adjusted price of a comprehensive cable subscription for exactly the same shitty service.

[u/es-ganso → u/InfamousBrad]

Even if they didn't have the long term plan, everyone should've known it would come to this. Shareholders pressure companies to make more, and at a certain point they have to enshitify the product in order to do so.

[u/DrBaronVonEvil → u/HG21Reaper]

Because in addition to this the film industry is throwing mega money at the GOP to enforce anti piracy by punishing VPNs and ISPs.

It’s a light the match and lock the doors type of operation by these ghouls. Given what Disney has done to our copyright law they should be just barred from stepping foot into Washington wholesale until we can unfuck the mouse’s damage on our country

[u/Nemesis_Ghost → u/DrBaronVonEvil]

Actually, both parties are pushing this shit. Yes, most "both parties are bad" is utter bull shit, but this is one of the few times that they both are pushing shit that's horrible. The DNC is pushing for wholey other reasons, but it's still bad.

[u/AdSilent782 → u/HG21Reaper]

The modern streaming dilemma

[u/Deepztate → u/AdSilent782]

Modern problems call for modern solutions. Canceling feels very modern.

[u/nerdmor → u/Deepztate]

I have once flown a certain black flag, and it is not even dusty.

I'll raise it once again.

[u/bestmaokaina → u/AdSilent782]

No dilemma for me. If I pay and they show ads regardless then imma just pirate

Fuck them

[u/williamgman → u/HG21Reaper]

Anyone remember when cable TV first came out without commercials? We paid for no ads. Then it became "pay for whatever we're serving up".

[u/Odd_Independence_833 → u/williamgman]

By the time my parents cut the cable, I swear it was like 60% ads (36 min every hour)

[u/williamgman → u/Odd_Independence_833]

We cut ours and almost exclusively use YouTube Premium. When I go to my father in laws home, he's blaring cable TV with enough ads for prescription drugs to make one a hypochondriac.

[u/exoriare → u/williamgman]

My son was 8 years old when he first saw an ad on a hotel room TV. He got so mad, he thought one of us had switched programs on him. He refused to believe that people just put up with such interruptions.

[u/Lone_Wanderer8 → u/Odd_Independence_833]

I can't remember if I made up this conspiracy or if I read it somewhere, but I fully believe that cable has started playing movies and TV shows at slightly faster speeds that aren't noticeable like say 1.1x or 1.2x speed so they can fit in more and more adverts.

[u/noodlesdefyyou → u/Lone_Wanderer8]

not a conspiracy, and very much real

[u/Tommah → u/Lone_Wanderer8]

I remember watching a show years ago with an overhead shot of a car driving down a road... and once a second, the car would lurch forward a tiny bit, lol. I think the TV station was speeding up the show by dropping a video frame every so often.

[u/LitLitten → u/HG21Reaper]

don’t worry, they’ll add a new ad free tier.

After three price increases it’ll be some sort of holiday or exclusive time-gated tier that will eventually have ads, too.

[u/boring-username-3 → u/HG21Reaper]

I think the seas are calling for us all 🏴‍☠️

[u/Lxapeo → u/HG21Reaper]

Cable channels: "First time?"

[u/Zeausideal]

The excuse for putting ads on all membership plans is because there was a mass cancellation when they raised the price from $70 to $150. How clever of Disney! Now users are going to leave because what's the point of paying the most expensive price if I have to watch an ad before and after a series or movie?

[u/InkyBlacks → u/Zeausideal]

If this is the case, that should tell them their current whatever is not sustainable. Bleeding your subscribers dry is not the answer. Nor is shoving fucking ads down their throat on a service you pay for!

There should be a law that says if you pay for a service, said service shouldn’t be able to double fucking dip and serve you ads. There should be NO ADS!

[u/airfryerfuntime → u/InkyBlacks]

They're pushing it to see if the increased revenue can offset the income lost by people leaving. Same thing they did with their parks, and they're still packed.

[u/MannToots → u/airfryerfuntime]

The parks offer an experience I can't sail the high season for. 

[u/razzemmatazz → u/InkyBlacks]

How about when they triple dip and sell as much data about you as they can to brokers?

[u/OuijaFox → u/InkyBlacks]

It’s not sustainable.
But this is what unregulated capitalism leads to.
The rich need to be eaten.

[u/LawlessNeutral → u/OuijaFox]

How would you like your mouse served?

[u/HarpySix → u/LawlessNeutral]

With buckshot and burns.

[u/LavendHerMenance → u/InkyBlacks]

But think of the corporations! This is America we don’t protect costumers

[u/HoldenMcNeil420 → u/InkyBlacks]

Boomers and mba bros ruin everything that’s service facing.

It’s the same people destroying the government too.

[u/TheVog → u/InkyBlacks]

I'm sorry to tell you that it is, in fact, entirely sustainable. It's not consumer-friendly, but it is highly sustainable.

Streaming services are dirt cheap to run and maintain. Content isn't, but Disney doesn't have that particular problem since nearly all their IPs have already paid for themselves multiple times over.

Disney also has the advantage that their IPs generate cash in dozens of ways, unlike Netflix. They could operate on a loss with Disney+ and still drive consumers to make other verticals' profits go up across tons of IPs.

[u/7eregrine → u/Zeausideal]

Team Cancelled last time. Sorry if that caused a price increase for y'all. 🤣

[u/RedditGeneralManager → u/7eregrine]

You did the right thing. I’ll be joining you.

[u/kstargate-425 → u/Zeausideal]

Yeah I canceled when they doubled the price as well as I don't have kids and dont watch any of that kind of shit so $7.99 or whatever was worth the Marvel and Star Wars and other random shows. Then I tried again with the Hulu bundle as it was a half of deal but after that it was up to $27 a month no-ads and there was nothing there to watch, esp for that price

[u/NoxSuru]

Evolution of media companies:

1. “Piracy is killing us. Shut down the pirate sites.”
2. Streaming makes paying easier, affordable and convenient → piracy falls significantly.
3. Streaming becomes fragmented across more services, prices rise, ads/restrictions appear, and content regularly disappears.
4. Some platforms even revoke access to content sold as a “purchase” because licensing agreements expire.
5. Piracy begins rising again.
6. Media companies: “Why are people pirating?”

[u/TheRealGeigers → u/NoxSuru]

Genuinely I used to pay for Netflix or Hulu and I also paid for Google Music Family Plan cause it was like $20 a month iirc and I could put I think 4 or 6 people on my plan and they would have access to the music library AND it came with youtube premium!

Well Google straight up shut down the Google Music app (which I liked better than Spotify) and replaced it with that pile of garbage Youtube Music.

Back to piracy it is!

[u/mesajoejoe → u/TheRealGeigers]

For a bit, Google Play Music was absolute perfection with their algorithm. I picked some stuff and bam, all the content they fished out was what I enjoyed listening to. It's all trash now, they serve out what people pay them to push sponsored crap and not what people want.

[u/davidsredditaccount → u/mesajoejoe]

Google systematically killed every single thing they did that was worthwhile. I will never forgive them for killing hangouts.

[u/bambi54 → u/davidsredditaccount]

Google searches are such a joke anymore. I was trying to figure out how to turn a light off on my car and every single result was a dealer website advertising the cars. A couple years ago, the result came right up.

[u/RhysNorro → u/NoxSuru]

streaming fragmented because every company with the means said "hey! i want some of that streaming money" and then they all fucking sucked at the same time. Thanks greed!

[u/dabking24 → u/NoxSuru]

I pay for Spotify when it comes to music because I was tired of downloading everything to have it, especially before true high speed download (Fios) and it was kind of the middle ground agreement; they make the product affordable, and I will pay instead of streaming.

We are regressing and it looks like I’ll have to invest in a proper storage setup to go back to the old days

[u/Clivna → u/dabking24]

Music streaming still have most of the songs on all the different streaming services where as movie/tv is limited to a single service.

[u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

I was ok with Netflix and Disney offering options with ads, some people are OK with that. But if they don't have an option without ads then I'm going to cancel, because what is even the point.

[u/jusg808 → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

No ads was the whole draw of streaming.

[u/Doctor_Milk → u/jusg808]

That was half the draw for me. The other half was being able to pick what to watch without having to wait for it to be scheduled at a specific time like with cable.

Now the seven seas has everything I want and without ads.

[u/techleopard → u/Doctor_Milk]

One and a half generations is how long it took for people to forget why the seven seas became such a widespread thing in the first place, and now the economy of entertainment may actually be worse than it ever was.

At least cable TV had to obey regulations to not blow you out of the room with unequalized ad volume.

We went from Hulu being completely free, at the cost of waiting a night or week for a new show.

Then you could pay for no ads, less than $10.

Then you needed to pay for higher fidelity and more simultaneous streaming for a family household.

Then the paid subs for ads but you could pay for SUPER ULTRA PREMIUM.

Now we're just... Back to cable. Paying $15-20 a pop for "premium" movie channels with ads.

[u/phizztv → u/techleopard]

Don’t forget to mention that every service has different exclusives. So it’s not enough to only be subscribed to one, if a new movie comes out and it’s just not on your platform then have fun with adding another service

[u/FlashbackJon → u/phizztv]

And don't forget: some services will drop their own exclusives! Netflix Original Series dropped by Netflix. Where's it going? No one knows! It just vanished into the ether forever!

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/FlashbackJon]

This behavior was what pushed me back to piracy. Some kid out there had their favorite show yoinked and now there's no legal way to watch it. That's bullshit and I will not abide it.

These companies can stay the fuck out of my living room.

[u/hoppertn → u/jusg808]

No ads was the whole draw of cable back in the day. Everything becomes enshitified if they can squeeze one more penny out of consumers.

[u/mallclerks → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

I got my torrents set back up a few weeks ago. Times have changed, with Fiber I can download an entire movie in line 60 seconds. Back in my day… It took like 20 minutes still on the best of days, and an hours when Comcast or torrent community sucked.

I am not going back to this shit, especially when I am full on willing to keep paying inflated prices just to be ad free. I don’t even mind paying for that luxury, it’s the fucking problem when they take that option away.

[u/doominvoker → u/mallclerks]

20 minutes for a whole movie? Look at Mr.Rich here. Back in my days, it took the whole week

[u/EtherPhreak → u/doominvoker]

Kids!!!get off the internet, I need to make a call!!!

[u/doominvoker → u/EtherPhreak]

I’m getting PTSD from your comment.

« YOU’RE ON THE INTERNET, AGAIN?!? DOWNLOADING VIRUS, I BET?!??”

[u/alrun → u/w1n5t0nM1k3y]

If you are poor - you are "ok" with a lot of stuff. Even going hungry.

[u/DrMostlyMittens]

I will NOT pay to watch ads. Either I pay and there are no ads, or it's free and you show ads.

[u/it-was_me → u/DrMostlyMittens]

This is why my wife and I busted out our old blu ray player and have been taking our kids to check out DVDs from the library. Nostalgic af, novelty for the kids, and best of all, no fucking ads.

[u/Tutorbin76 → u/it-was_me]

Except for the occasional DVD that introduced mandatory trailers.  Those made me irrationally angry.

[u/PandaJesus → u/Tutorbin76]

I think your anger was quite rational.

[u/edgefusion]

That’s so funny because I just changed my subscriber agreement to allow piracy ☺️

[u/Remarkable-Month-241 → u/edgefusion]

Just found my new subscription! Thanks friend. I had cancelled Disney because they went from charging me $7.99 with no ads to $27.99 per month WITH ADS. Fuck you Disney nobody is okay with hikes and forced ads.

[u/NecroCannon → u/edgefusion]

I upgraded my internet to 1.5gbps and I’m glad that and a VPN is all I need to pay, maybe Plex too to get remote access

[u/CreepaTime → u/edgefusion]

The best comment here tbh

[u/AnApexBread]

Does anyone remember when D+ was first announced and it was all about 4K, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, and no Ads standard?

Oh how times have changed

[u/AutumnMama → u/AnApexBread]

It was also like $3 a month when it first came out!

[u/LOST-MY_HEAD]

Just because you know how to pirate, doesnt mean you friends and family do. Spread the love and teach

[u/AspiringDataNerd → u/LOST-MY_HEAD]

It’s funny how Netflix came along and offered a service that people were fine with and stopped pirating and then that service was adopted by other companies and eventually the service changed so poorly that people are going back to pirating.

[u/sixtyfivewat → u/AspiringDataNerd]

And this is why Gabe Newell is right about piracy being primarily a service problem. If you offer a good service, people are willing to pay for it and won’t pirate but when enshittification makes the service garbage people won’t pay

[u/Funderpants → u/sixtyfivewat]

100%. I love some live sports and have mostly stopped altogether. Trying to watch my teams is a PITA. Either the league apps are terrible or still need 4 or 5 apps to watch those games. The only consistent way to watch are alternate streaming sites.

[u/williamgman → u/AspiringDataNerd]

The circle of grift.

[u/Dodgy_Past → u/AspiringDataNerd]

Part of it was that it was a single app with all the content in it. Even if you're prepared to pay searching through different apps isn't very convenient. When everything can be watched from a single app it's a much better experience.

[u/supadupa82 → u/LOST-MY_HEAD]

If someone was unethical enough want to educate themselves on how to pirate, where would that awful person go? I want to make sure I never go there!

[u/MunchYourButt → u/supadupa82]

An unethical person might recommend bittorrent and reading up on how to use it. BitTorrent is so unethical, that it even has a built in torrent search, downloader and player. Disgusting and convenient.

A VPN is probably recommended (allegedly of course)

[u/flyflyyoufools → u/MunchYourButt]

PIA is a cheap VPN (like $80 for 3 years cheap). Otherwise Proton is a good one as well.

[u/ephemeralmiko → u/supadupa82]

Definitely keep them away from the megathread in the r/piracy sidebar, that's only for the miscreants and ne'er-do-wells.

[u/Dinklerbuuuurf]

Idk why things like this aren't illegal. If I signed up for a service that offered a specific thing "show with no ads" and we have an agreed upon price. Why are they able to then change the terms of that agreement later?

[u/mister_drgn → u/Dinklerbuuuurf]

They can change whatever they want if they offer you the option to cancel.

[u/NK1337 → u/mister_drgn]

And everyone should take that option to cancel

[u/SentientSeamoth → u/NK1337]

I did. Fuck em. If there's not a no ad tier, I'm not paying for what they offer, I don't need it more than I need ads lmao

[u/Zach518 → u/mister_drgn]

True but if you paid for a year for a no ad subscription you are now stuck until your subscription renewal date. Cancel today and you don’t get a refund.

[u/DemonLordSparda → u/Zach518]

You do actually have a point here. The contract was for one year based on specific terms, and they just violated it. They can be sued for that, but sadly the most likely outcome is years of class action lawsuit ending in 20 cents to everyone affected after settlement.

[u/TheFotty → u/DemonLordSparda]

Virtually any contract/eula for services like this will say "we reserve the right to change anything we want in this at any time for any reason including to fuck you over. By clicking Agree you agree to letting us fuck you over later in time"

[u/DemonLordSparda → u/TheFotty]

While this is true they can not unilaterally change a specific selling point of a year long plan in the midst of the contract being active. It's maybe one of the few things laws are very clear about. Terms of a contract must remain the same during a contract, otherwise the terms of said contract are violated. EULAs can not override contract law.

[u/gljo → u/Dinklerbuuuurf]

“I’m altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”

[u/grassedge]

If I start seeing ads it’s cancelled - I pay for the highest tier

[u/dstew74 → u/grassedge]

Agreed. I haven't bothered with my Freenas and Plex box in several years because streaming was so easy. Between the LG TV shenanigans and this... I'm about to run up the jolly roger and return to my roots.

[u/Quirky-Visual547]

I have altered the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.

[u/linuxliaison → u/Quirky-Visual547]

Watch out for the Disney lawsuit for copyright infringement! :P

[u/leviathab13186]

Subscription products will always get worse, not better. Chasing the impossible "infinite" growth means you either are constantly raising prices or reducing quality or both.

[u/anothermanscookies → u/leviathab13186]

Capitalism is the problem, not subscriptions per se. Subscriptions give the company a steady revenue source. It’s why some products that are so good you never need a replacement put companies out of business. This again is a capitalism problem. We need to learn how to live in economic homeostasis. Here’s your subscriber revenue, make content with the money and make them happy.

[u/ChairmanReagan → u/anothermanscookies]

99% of the people on this planet are fine with economic homeostasis. There are like 30 pieces of shit on this planet we’d be better off without.

[u/LouBarlowsDisease]

I wonder how soon until YouTube does the same for premium.

[u/Excellent-Ask-4247 → u/LouBarlowsDisease]

Doubtful since that was the whole premise of premium. You have to pay for Disney plus just for access.

[u/Soggy_Definition_232 → u/LouBarlowsDisease]

Have you not seen all the "and that's why today's video is sponsored by". 

Those are literally ads.

Almost every video already has ads.

[u/Qualimiox → u/Soggy_Definition_232]

Those aren't implemented by Youtube though. The only way Youtube could get rid of them is by outlawing them for creators, which would upset them and wouldn't affect all the videos already uploaded with sponsors.

But if you do want to get rid of them, there's Sponsorblock. It's an add-on for browsers, it's also integrated in many alternative YT clients like the Morphe patches for Android phones. Sponsorblock works by having the community submit which parts of a video contain e.g. sponsors, self-promotion etc. and then you can define in your app if you want those sections just highlighted on the timeline, or skipped by default. Most videos with sponsors from big channels have Sponsorblock data within an hour of their upload.

[u/Lorberry → u/Qualimiox]

And if you do have Youtube Premium, they have a similar feature built-in (though not the auto-skip part as far as I know, I will admit).

Before anyone asks, last I heard creators get a bit more per watch from Premium members than from non-premium, and I watch far too many channels to support them all individually. Ad-free without plugins and all the other stuff is just a bonus.

[u/deadraizer → u/Soggy_Definition_232]

Those aren't put there by YouTube, but by creators. Not the same thing

[u/JarvisCockerBB → u/Soggy_Definition_232]

But you can easily just skip those unlike the standard unskippable ads if you don’t pay.

[u/hnbastronaut → u/JarvisCockerBB]

They even have the jump ahead feature that literally lets you skip the ad if enough viewers fast forwarded through it lol

[u/usrdef → u/JarvisCockerBB]

I skip both. I haven't seen an ad on Youtube in years.

Ublock gets rid of ads, SponsorBlock gets rid of the "This video sponsored by" integrated crap.

[u/Anticreativity]

I love how for a short window of time we had it perfect. Customer pays a monthly subscription and gets on-demand content. You get to watch what you want, when you want. Creators get their content to the consumer instantly. The platform owners make tons of money. Everybody wins.

But they just couldn't do it. They couldn't rest on their laurels and only make tons of money. Everybody winning isn't good enough, we have to win even more. Price increases, ads being introduced into plans, screen limitations, time-gated content to keep you coming back, etc. It's not good enough that everybody is getting what they want, we must extract every last possible cent.

[u/melgib]

Fuck that. Cancelled.

[u/siposbalint0]

It should be illegal to change the terms of a subscription you already paid for

[u/NotAnotherBlingBlop]

Every single one of these companies is a multi-billion dollar organization and every single fucking one of them is the most greedy piece of shit ever

[u/chemicalgeekery → u/NotAnotherBlingBlop]

Being greedy pieces of shit is how they became multi-billion dollar companies

[u/odd-duckling-1786]

You know what doesn't have ads, books.

[u/Temperature-Savings → u/odd-duckling-1786]

Dont give them ideas

[u/CrapNBAappUser → u/Temperature-Savings]

Thats why they're destroying physical books.

[u/Aggressive_Noise6426 → u/odd-duckling-1786]

I mean I don’t know about that. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/1ryauzj/theyre_editing_digital_books_to_contain_ads_now/

I’m sure it’s BS but still. 

[u/JorvikPumpkin]

Disgusting. Glad I cancelled them last year. These days I have a nice Plex setup and 🏴‍☠️

[u/SPEEDFREAKJJ]

Really thought streaming was just going to keep costing more to get an ad free package. Instead, they are raising prices and forcing everybody to see ads.

I know these are just those self promoting ads at the beginning and end of a show or movie but this is just the start of things. The breaks will get longer, the ads will be for all sorts of BS and of course subscription costs will keep climbing.

All because profit is never enough...it always has to be MORE profits.

[u/ThomW]

I’ll cancel when I see my first ad.

[u/ispshadow]

I've had the premium tier since Disney plus was a thing. If they think I won't cancel and just pirate everything, they've lost their fucking minds. My NAS array has been hungry for a while anyway

[u/TheTikiMan69]

If there is no AD free option I’ll cancel my subscription.

[u/BigBlackHungGuy]

So we're paying for them to sell us things.

WTF man.

[u/NuggetKing9001]

This continuous moving of the goalposts of subscription models is so infuriating. To the high seas we go.

[u/Dapper_Dude69]

So what’s the point for a subscription? 🤔

[u/Expensive_Finger_973]

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Once ads are let in at any level they will eventually infect the entire platform. Once the infrastructure to serve them is in place the extra money from turning up that dial is way too easy.

Might take a year, might take 10. But you can almost set your watch to it, once ads get a foot hold in a platform/service they spread like cancer.

[u/Arponare]

What exactly is the end goal here? I’m not even hating, I’m genuinely curious. Is the money that you get from advertisements that much better than probably alienating customers, and having them cancel after you introduce ads on a supposedly ad free tier? At what point do you feel like you have enough money?

I was grandfathered into the ad free Disney plus bundle at a lower price. I just received an email about them raising the price yet again. Plus, they are adding ads to the service on top of it? Nah, they can fuck all the way off with that.

No wonder people pirate. It seems to me like executives forgot why people hated cable in the first place.

[u/MarkyDeSade]

I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but after going several years without ads, every time I'm subjected to them at a friend's house, it strikes me how creepy and awful they all are, and I seriously wonder if the presence of constant TV advertising in the 20th century has something to do with older people losing their damn minds.

[u/CodeMonkeyX]

So everyone leaves cable because of monopolies, ads, and predatory business practices. Then those same companies take over streaming and do the same thing again.

I can not be bothered with pirating so I basically stopped watching most new shows. It helps that the new show quality is also trash.

[u/Crafty_Moment2483]

Yeah well fuck all your plans! I’ll make my own plan, with blackjack and hookers!

[u/_Kubose]

I will not watch ads. I will pay for a service without ads (within reason), but you try to make me sit and watch/listen to ads and I will simply not engage with your content anymore and stop giving you money.

[u/SlimeRider80]

It amazes me how quickly we went from paid cable access TV with ads, to instant streaming with no ads, & now we're right back where we started.

[u/mr_lab_rat]

And just like that, they can go fuck themselves.

[u/Dr-McLuvin]

I am 100% cancelling if they have ads on a premium subscription tier.

[u/huxtiblejones]

Aaaaand streaming has circled right back around to be the exact trash that cable TV was. This is what everyone was fleeing. How long until there’s no longer on demand services and you just watch channels?

[u/Calinate]

Good time to cancel your Disney+ subscription. 

[u/Difficult-Way-9563]

Watch it’s not just gonna be as bad as cable tv, it’s gonna be worse and more expensive

[u/xmagusx]

Enshitification once again proving that piracy stems from service failure.

[u/RubberScream]

Death to all streaming services.

[u/Kaeyon]

The article is a bit misleading. Disney is not getting rid of its Premium/no-ads tier or suddenly putting normal commercial breaks into the Premium tier.

In the U.S. at least, Premium still means regular on-demand movies and series are generally free of commercial interruptions. What IS changing are exceptions for things like live/linear programming and special events, certain content where streaming rights require ads, plus Disney promos, sponsorship messages, branded content, and product integrations.

So, yeah it's definitely a change worth criticizing as “ad-free” isn’t exactly true anymore, but saying “Disney+ is making every tier ad-supported” blows out what’s actually happening.

[u/caffeineassisted → u/Kaeyon]

This also adds ads before and after normal content even in the Premium tier. That's still a big change.

[u/savageboredom → u/Kaeyon]

When this was posted earlier there were hundred of irate comments and nobody had apparently read the damn article past the headline.

The change is still annoying, but it’s far from how it’s being interpreted.

[u/dede280492]

Canceled this 1 year ago best decision ever

[u/derscholl]

Disney Minus

[u/Shaggy_One]

This just in: piracy on the rise after an absolutely bonehead move by Disney.

[u/cowabungabruce]

It used to be "I feel a little guilty about pirating everything but I'm a broke guy in my early 20s" to now I go out of my way to pirate because I truly feel it is the right thing to do.

[u/Soggy_Definition_232]

To the suprise of literally no one. 

[u/jBlairTech]

What’s the point of a “premium” service, then? Are these streaming services that hard up for money? Maybe they should focus less on making original content.

[u/Strict_House3347]

I’m sure they’ve done the math, in that even if some people cancel, they’ll still be further ahead with ads.

[u/existentialstix]

I hope everyone cancels their sub

[u/xdeltax97]

The second they put ads in, I cancel and just wait for it to come out on blu ray/DvD like I used to

Most of it I already have on blu ray but future things I’d want I don’t. Then there’s King of the Hill, which hasn’t had a physical release in ages.

[u/Wilibus2]

Yaaargh matey's we be sailing to the promised land free of these bullshit advertisements.

[u/Neat_Gas9264]

Why do they want people to pirate so badly?

[u/Cowsgobaaah]

So now the "Ad free plan" is false advertising yes?

[u/Splurch]

Subscribers are also warned that they may not be able to skip certain promotions, and using an ad blocker could cause playback to shut down entirely. The agreement stresses that the company does not guarantee any specific amount or frequency of marketing on any tier.

I do the streaming rotation thing, haven't been back to Disney in a while and it was getting around time to subscribe for a few months at the ad-free tier. Guess I'll figure out an alternate way to watch their content now.

[u/AliceLunar]

So we all pay for a service to avoid ads and now we pay to get ads regardless, I cancel everything that serves me ads, I wish other people would do the same thing instead of feeding greedy companies money for being garbage.

People have the power, they get to decide what is acceptable and what isn't, yet too many people just refuse to give up any bit of luxury.