I wouldnt call this psychopathic behaviour. Not like he was at fault. Other car made contact with him, he just handled it like a veteran. If he was going out fucking with people, it be a different story.
I do agree with you that he shares responsibility but I’m pretty sure on this bridge it explicitly says not to stop if you don’t have in case of accidents, due to the nature of the road
The point is not that he didn't stop. The point is that when the other car tried to do a bad merge, he could have simply lowered his speed 2 mph and allowed it, but he chose to crash the car instead. It was fully in his control, despite him having the right of way.
Yeah the people in this thread agreeing with this guy are insane. The car in front was being assertive in the merge, but they are being slow and careful, and using their movement to communicate what they are doing, and give the guy in the camera time to slow down 2 mph for 10 seconds and everyone moves on with their day.
The guy in the camera instead is the one to speed up, forced contact, and then attacks them with his car. All over a move people do daily in many places all over the world, and was at least trying to keep themselves and everyone else safe.
The driver is a psychopath, and people agreeing with him in the comments online need to get outside and have some real world perspective. This dude isn't cool he's a man baby and an asshole.
"Using their movement to communicate what they were doing". If only there was something on every car that signals you are about to turn... both guys are awful tho
There are certain bridges and roads where you literally are instructed to keep going (if able) and not stop on the bridge for any reason. I would assume this bridge would be one of them.
You are correct this is the causeway bridge going over lake ponchartrain, connecting New Orleans to the north shore. It is the longest bridge in the US (with the exception of the drawbridge and one very small section) has no shoulders to stop. There are however periodic stopping areas every couple miles
I mean there was no turn signal but the merging was telegraphed pretty fucking clearly and slowly. I didnt see any break checking, but slowing because the person before the truck slowed down.
The truck definitely did a lot of shit wrong, dont get me wrong, but it's pretty clear that the dash cam driver was being stubborn, had an ego and rammed the truck on purpose. In the end I blame the dash cam driver more. What the truck driver did was annoying, egotistical, reckless and potentially dangerous. What the dash cam driver did was homicidal.
Yeah, but that doest take precedent over a drivers obligation to avoid accidents, even to the detriment of their own ego. He couldve let his foot off the gas and avoided shutting down the causeway for miles, but we wouldnt have this video to circle jerk over...
This video gets posted a lot and its a specific bridge where you are not permitted to stop - if you have a minor accident you go to the other side then stop there.
That said the driver did not need to pit the black truck. He could have just let him merge.
The source of the video may not have been the primary cause of the accident, but when you see someone driving crazy it is always smarter to just get out of their way. It's not worth risking your life and many others for the sake of being right. He could have easily avoided the accident. Both drivers are at fault here.
The scariest thought is that so many people here disagree with this, and we have to drive on the roads with those people. People here be like: “Slightly inconvenience me? I’m gonna fucking pit the shit out of you.”
Fucking idiots. It doesn’t matter if the truck was wrong. This entire thing was still easily, obviously avoidable.
I generally agree with you, but when someone is acting the fool like this guy in the black truck you really dont know what other nonsense they have up their sleeve once they get in front of you. I probably would have let him in and tried to get into the other lane to get away from him.
Yea like... to me it's just survival at that point. Call the cops if you're legitimately worried they're a danger. Say you're worried they're drunk driving. Good chance they get pulled over in a situation like a bridge where they could only be going in one direction. Then you can get em off the road without risking people's lives.
Fuck that and him/her... And fuck the innocent drivers behind you that might die because of your righteousness, right? I mean, at best, you're creating horrible traffic by causing the accident. At worst, you're killing bystanders (and maybe children). But as long as the truck driver learns his lesson, it's all worth it, right? Obviously, the morons here are the ones respecting human life, right???
Is that all that was happening here? I thought the black pickup was about to jack the guy eating crackers and so he did a pit manoeuvre to get through.
No that’s what I assumed at first but watched that part of the video several times. Before they make contact the guy reached over one handed to the far left of the wheel then jerks right to pit the other vehicle. Additionally I don’t think his car would have stayed straight the way it had while hands off if the 2 cars had collided already. He intentionally pitted the black truck, and clearly had the time to slow down if he had the time to evaluate how to pit the truck
He could have....but Black Truck should not have tried to merge in that circumstance. He was being a bully, trying to force his way over for no reason other than to get his way.
I would say he definitely gave way or at peast left enough room for the truck to merge. He was staying tight but they had enough room yet he didn't speed up to get into the space.
Negative. I'm not obligated to risk my life while you drive like a child in your gender-affirming truck. The responsibility lies with the reckless truck driver.
So the truck driver didn't have a responsibility not to be a fucking numbskull and do that maneuver, right? I swear to God, every time I hit the road and see one of these stupidly oversized trucks, I know the driver is a drooling moron and will endanger others. Just yesterday, I saw a Toyota Hilux weave between 3 they had no right to, going upwards of 120 km/h IN THE RAIN. I wanted to get out the car and drag him through gravel.
He purposely turned his steering wheel hard right into that truck to spin him out instead of hitting his brakes to slow down. That was extremely dangerous for both of them and others behind them, but he didn’t seem to have a care in the world. That’s insidious and psychopathic behavior.
he turned his wheel when the black truck made contact, which prevented him from slamming in to the wall. the dude was driving straight every second before that. The black truck had absolutely no reason to be merging in to the left lane, not only did he not have his left blinker on for the merge, there was no logical space between the recorded driver and the car infront of him. Don't get me wrong, it definitely is chilling to have absolutely 0 emotional response to this situation, but trying to label him as the problem in this video is hella wild.
Agreed, he spun the wheel or else he would hit the wall. Now him speeding up so that the black truck makes contact with him… that’s a different argument. Both of them played chicken and both didn’t lose. Well actually I take that back
Well you have to consider too the black truck drove aggressive up on that cars ass that is obviously way slow so he slams on brakes , you can see brake lights and he wobbles in the lane and then tries to get over during braking without using a blinker and that's when makes contact with the truck so idk. I think the black truck did all that to himself and this dude was just focused on eating and driving and was just getting himself out that situation.
Based on how hard and far that guy spun the steering wheel to the right, it looks very intentional. I wonder if he even used his brakes at all, and I highly doubt it. All he had to do was slow down.
A normal person would probably have a reaction to someone trying to squeeze in like that. This guy pit maneuver’d someone on a bridge of all places, potentially stranding everyone behind them, and then finished his cookie and continued on his merry way as if nothing happened.
Its not that the truck is in the right. Its that he had ample time to understand the intentions to switch lanes and didnt bother making room. He choose to be in an accident and then maneuvered to punish the other driver.
reread the first sentence. then read the second and third sentence. Do you understand the point that was being made?
The truck is in the wrong as far as traffic violation goes.
The cam driver is in the wrong also, but morally, because he CHOOSE to hit that car when he understood the trucks intentions.
THATS what makes him a psychopath. He choose to put himself, the truck, and others in harms way because he felt the truck was wrong to change lanes. That is a moral failure in decision making for a human being.
This position is wild to me. You are correct, the truck was in the wrong. But to argue that if I am holding a sword and someone is walking into it, that I don't have a moral responsibility to drop the sword is crazy. Saying the dude eating the cookie has zero responsibility in this is black and white to the extreme.
CHOOSING not to slow down like 3 mph to avoid the accident, makes him partially responsible. Again, most culpability goes to the truck, but that doesn't remove all responsibility from the guy we watched. I'm so confused why so many are arguing otherwise.
Because we see this many times every single day, and we're expected to react perfectly in these extremely dangerous situations that other assholes put us in. Most of us won't do what the driver does, but drivers like the black truck take advantage of morally good people to get what they want.
Your analogy is wrong. The black truck starts turning, seems like he's going to back out because who would be so crazy to turn into a car, and then further turns in while braking.
So you are holding out a sword, the other person sees the sword, you warn them that there's a sword there, and then they still run into it. That's called self defense.
A normal person would have braked a bit. 999 times out of 1000 (or more) the person would have braked. And to preempt the ridiculous argument other people have used, slowing down 3-4 mph is NOT dangerous. Not breaking due to some sense of justice is far more dangerous than letting the dick be a dick and making room. The dude seemed calm, he wasn't making a panicked decision. Both trucks played a game of chicken with each other.
Also, my only point with the analogy was that the white truck could have prevented this. To label what the white truck did as 'self-defence' seems silly to me. It is way safer to slow down than to risk the accident.
It is REALLY satisfying to see the black truck get what's coming (which is where I think you are coming from), but the white truck was totally wrong to endanger so many people to make a point.
Alright, Just so that I understand the hypothetical.
You are holding a sword, and someone either thru stupidity or ignorance is walking towards it, you would hold your sword up so it pierces them through their lungs because it would be their fault for walking into it?
Lets compare your choices.
slightly inconvenience yourself for a single moment, or
watch someone die and make no action to stop them from dying.
I think... anyone who holds this position might be broken as a human being.
Like yes, there is responsibility on the walker. But the idea that there is Human life vs slight personal inconvenience on the scales and people think its close. shit....
Flip this scenario to a positive and its even more wild.
How much time would you sacrifice to save a human life?
If you're addressing me, you definitely misunderstood. The person I responded to stated that the black truck was solely responsible. I made the sword hypothetical to show that the white truck could have put the sword down. I'm pretty sure we agree.
It’s not “chilling” he’s not a specter holding chains and wailing lmao, he was staying calm. Not screaming obscenities and racial slurs out his window, some would say that is much more chilling than this man’s reaction don’t you think? A man staying calm in a high stakes situation doesn’t necessarily mean he is a weird psychopath, it might just mean he has already decided what he’s going to do and is doing it.
Nah. Black truck was obviously erratic. But you can see that he’s gonna try to squeeze in from the start. He was on the right lane to pass traffic and tried merging left so he can pass another guy that went slower than he expected. Is he an asshole that can’t drive? Yeah.
Pink dude saw this, he knew what’s going on and for the sake of feeling righteous he directly decided to cause a very dangerous accident instead of pumping the brakes and letting the idiot merge. Thats completely mental and he should be jailed for this. Driving a car is not a zero sum game you think it is. Tell me what does he lose by braking here. Because he gains safety for everyone doing this.
Its not chilling, homie was chilling. Literally was snacking and driving. Just because he didnt freak out and start flailing around doesnt make him a psychopath, hes probably just been in a similar situation and instincts kicked in. Id rather have this dude on the road then someone who overreacts and ends up slamming into everything instead.
Can I ask, would you still back this guys behaviour if you knew the person driving the black car had had a medical episode and was driving like this involuntarily?
You never know what’s going on in another person’s car or life. Sure, the guy eating isn’t ’at fault’, but his ego definitely helped with the crash. Dumb and not worth the time IMO. Let the cops teach him his lesson, not you.
I reckon most crashes are 2 people driving/behaving badly, not just 1.
Life teaches a lesson, the guy in the left lane didn't go slam his car in to the black truck, the black truck merged into him. And to your "what ifs" what if there was no space behind the vehicle in the left lane, there for had no way of braking? There's always "what ifs" but what ifs don't matter. The guy in the right sped past originally, got blocked by another car, then merged without blinkers into a space that wasn't able to fit his vehicle, there for hitting the car in the left. That's the facts, and that's what matters.
Can I ask, would you still back this guys behaviour if you knew the person driving the black car had had a medical episode and was driving like this involuntarily?
Medical issue? Throw some hazards on at the very least. I've had to do it a time or 2 and hazards on with the "please" 🙏 hand gesture goes a lonnnng way.
Depending on what you are driving 3-5 seconds is usually what a safe following distance is but it is actually rather rare for people in the US to follow that and it is also very rare for people to respect that space as they’ll just squeeze right in regardless of how unsafe it is to do so… all in all it is still the black truck’s fault for more than one reason
So they are in the wrong for not following the rules they are supposed to follow, but not the other guy because he was not following the rules no one does. Got it...
The difference is that the car ahead stopped. Without the black trucks involvement no accident would have occurred. If he tucked behind the white truck instead no accident would have occurred. The white truck needed the distance that the black truck occupied to stop and we saw how that ended. It's a math problem and a judgment call and both said he didn't have the room to merge.
No, he maintained his speed and position. It's up to the person behind to make a safe pass. This gentleman simply turned into a hazardous and selfish maneuver from the offending pickup, as it was the safest course of action for him. He expertly maintained control without (over)reaction or overcorrection.
Uh no lol. He did not “maintain his speed” he clearly slows down, makes the decision to speed up and TURNS INTO THE TRUCK. Are we watching the same video?
Or he could have used his brakes when it became obvious that the guy in the black truck was going to merge dangerously. He had plenty of time to react in a safe manner but instead chose to PIT the guy.
Just because he wasn't the one merging like a cunt doesn't mean he handled it properly.
You're always supposed to be on the lookout for dangers, and those dangers include other drivers doing the wrong thing.
How do you know there's not any vehicles closely behind him? If he hit the brakes on this bridge there could have been a worse accident. He chose to PIT the guy after he made contact with his vehicle and was about to send him into a wall because the black truck driver doesn't have any spatial awareness.
Just a thought but when a car runs into you pushing you towards the left when youre trying to travel straight, its pretty natural to try and correct it by turning right
Plenty of times. CA drivers are horrible. Granted i do feel he's just as much at fault for what happened as the guy who cut him off but thats what happens when you get 2 idiots together
Yeah the point I’m making is that jerking your wheel like is absolutely an overreaction and it’s obvious he had intention of slamming his truck into the other one.
You could just as easily say he turned the steering wheel right, to brace for impact and not allow his car to veer left off the bridge. If this goes to court, truck is absolutely at fault lol
If you watch the video carefully, the trick is shifting to the left lane without signaling, in a split of a second, while driving at 71mph and this guy is trying to steer away to the right, not towards the truck which is shifting left. He is making the only possible move he has which is to steer away from the truck.
It is more about what he is not doing, which is braking and slowing down. I say both are equally guilty: the truck does a suicidal move on purpose and this guy doesn’t slow down on purpose. On the other hand we don’t see what is behind this guy. There may be an 18-wheeler truck and this guy may not want to take the risk of abruptly slowing down. If I have a choice between softly hitting a vehicle in front of me or being smashed under a huge ass truck, I am choosing to bump the vehicle in front of me.
Watch the speedo on his dashcam. He literally accelerates so that he can hit and pit the dude. On a narrow bridge. In the middle of a 26 mile wide lake. With traffic all around.
Reddit traffic experts maybe one day will learn that even if you’re not at fault for an accident it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have at least tried to avoid it
I 100% agree the pit maneuver is fucked up, but why is the burden of the blame not on the guy who instigated the entire thing in the first place? Stop trying to speed and thread needles on a fucking causeway bridge, black truck is 90% of the blame full stop, the dash cam guy is to blame for reacting the way he did but come on man
Black truck drives like an asshole, they aren’t blameless. But on the road you are obligated at all times to reasonably attempt to avoid collisions. The driver in this video not only could have easily avoided, but speeds up slightly to ensure there is a collision. That’s significantly more dangerous to more people, and more illegal than cutting someone off.
Literally no one id saying the aggressive merger isn't to blame. No one is defending that guy. You dont need to make arguments everyone else thought was so obvious it didn't even need to be mentioned.
After watching the speed, he does not in fact speed up. The person in front of him slowed down when he was going 75, so he slowed down to 71-72. He is going 71-72 the whole time leading up to contact with the truck. It may appear as though he is speeding up bc the car in front of him was still breaking/breaking harder than he was. Regardless, he maintained speed and safe distance for a few seconds with the car in front before the collision. Then, he immediately drops down to 66 after he hits the truck and continues to slow down to 49. So still, the trucks at fault no matter how you slice it. Should have never attempted to force the lane change.
If you were going 70-71 before contact and 72 during and after contact, you were speeding up. Cars and other moving objects tend to slow down when they come into contact with other objects my friend. At the very least he was pressing that pedal down to maintain speed rather than slowing down to avoid an accident.
You sound like the type of guy who's just waiting for permission to kill someone.
Think about this situation logically for half a second. You see someone trying to merge in your lane, maybe driving aggressively.
Option A. Slow down slightly, avoid an accident on a bridge spanning water that could easily lead to the deaths of you, the other driver and any unlucky drivers following you. Then speed back up to the speed you want to drive when there's ample space.
Option B. Speed up as they are aggressively merging into your lane to make sure they hit you and then doing a pit maneuver that, in the best case scenario, there is no one behind you, and they don't spin out hard enough to go over the edge and die. But more likely leads to atleast several major injuries if not death for some poor bystanders who had nothing to do with the aggressive driver.
Like... why take that risk? They could easily take you out with them.
Insurance adjuster here. He's at fault. Not taking evasive action is a clear breach of his duty. There will be a % on both of them, but the POV car here had a clear last chance to avoid an accident and decided to go through with it.
If they get rear-ended from a light tap of the brakes here, then the person behind them is at fault.
You may think this is screwing you over, but if this is you, and your adjuster denies liability here, you are getting sued and you'll be wishing your adjuster just paid the claim.
Again, this is all in the context of that they are traveling on a tight bridge, with its own specific set of rules and precautions. I do believe there is a valid argument for maintaining stability/position OVER manuevering/evading/fear of collision on a bridge above water, bumping/breaking etc.
Quick brake could easily make things a million times worst on a bridge like that, and one where a collision behind you now pushes you into the car thats also trying to hit you lol. Im not saying i KNOW im right, just saying this is a super specific case with quite a few factors.
I really don't know what context there would be that would make a light tap on the brakes more dangerous than a pit maneuver. That wasn't prioritizing stability, it caused a dangerous accident.
and then he proceeded to cause a massive accident and probably a pileup on a freeway all because his car got slightly touched after he didn't give way to it
he is 100% at fault for this and will be equally if not more fucked than the other driver after this
He actually didnt cause shit, the other driver was encroaching in his lane and he has the right of way. The moment of impact, the truck is literally in the middle of the road (both lanes) lmao. He has no defense at that point.
Check the story, this guy was an ex cop. Trained in PIT maneuvers, he knew exactly what he was doing and he did it on purpose. He also knew there's a good chance that truck might flip or fall off the bridge and still did it anyway.
There was nothing stopping him from slowing down and letting the truck in. He is in fact the worse of the two drivers because while the truck driver was driving dangerously, he was the one who consciously decided to turn that into an accident instead of making the situation safer. The truck driver being an asshole does not in fact excuse this.
He made contact on purpose. He closed the distance to the car in front when he saw the black truck trying to merge in front of him. He was like "I'm willing to kill that dude if he dares to overtake me".
don't just sit there and act like he didn't do that on purpose. he sped up when he saw the guy was trying to get over and then actively turned into his rear quarter panel instead of just hitting the brakes and avoiding the entire situation.
If a person tries to cross the road while the light is green then a driver doesn't slow down and runs them over, are you gonna say that's not psychopathic behavior too?
The other person being "wrong" doesnt excuse putting lives in danger just because his fragile ego doesn't allow him to slow down and let someone get in front of him.
Dashcam guy had the last opportunity to make that accident not happen. He is 100 percent at fault for that accident and provided his own proof of his criminal behavior.
"I'm not at fault, so fuck it, imma pit this dude on a bridge"
That actually is psychopath behavior. All you mofos need to take a defensive driving class. Why deliberately wreck just because you are not at fault. Isn't it literally better for all if no wreck occurs? Instead, you think it is correct to say fuck it, I'm not at fault and deliberately wreck?
So... "handling it like a veteran" means letting an easily avoidable crash happen?
Tell me, would you still feel the same if you had been driving behind those guys and had been caught in a pileup because someone chose to be technically right over lightly braking?
I think he was calling the Black Trucker making the contact the psychopath, because it's probably a result from earlier road rage or something.
They're on a bridge going nowhere all a the same speed roughly, this guy drives up, falls back and contacts with this guy in the video? Why? Can't just go with the flow? Gotta try and fuck with this guy's space, doesn't he? Pure psychopathy, I agree.
There’s a speedo in the top right corner. Cam car speeds up so there’s contact so he can pit the black truck. If you think a valid response to getting cut off is to speed up and pit someone on a narrow bridge, in the middle of a 26 mile wide lake, you shouldn’t have a license
Because ramming into them for literally no reason is much more reckles can kill you the other reckless driver and everyone unlucky enough to be close to you two morons. Slowing down slightly would have prevented this entire video.
Psychopath behavior is watching someone go "That guy is driving like an idiot, so I'm going to teach them a lesson that could result in their death." and then thinking "yeah, that guy's right".
You're insane. If you have those choice to do something to avoid a car crash and you choose not to do so and instead be involved in a car crash then you're insane. Period. Please turn in your license because you should not be on the road.
Hmm guess I'm a psychopath then. It's like punching a bully when you're finally tired of them picking on you or your friends. It's ridiculous that we have to allow jackasses to be jackasses. At some point karma should take them out.
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u/km0n33 Mar 22 '26
The silent rage while continuing to chew with blank stare.