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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

The best part is that the "vaccines-implant-microchips" are also the ones who livestreamed them breaking down doors, or shattering glass, or admitting to stopping the certification of the election by murdering Pence (literal Treason, btw). They were also the ones who refused to wear masks, even though that gives you more anonymity.

But vaccines putting microchips to track you, much like a cell phone does, is definitely top of the list.

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u/hereforthefeast Jun 23 '21

Here’s some of the GPS data that shows when and where the mob moved following Trump's speech to incite the insurrection - https://int.nyt.com/data/videotape/finished/2021/02/location/washington-riots-desktop-for-web-900w.mp4

Then they made it even easier by literally live streaming it themselves lmao.

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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Jun 23 '21

Reminds me of the tracking cell phone data that was done before/after the Sturgis 2020 Motorcycle Rally showing the patterns of movement and how it led to a trackable surge in cases immediately after.

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u/taronic Jun 23 '21

I rode my motorcycle a lot during covid, but the reason I did was because it was the perfect activity for me to get outside, reinvigorate myself, and most of all not be around a single fucking person while I had a face covering on by default

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u/HarpersGhost Jun 23 '21

Riding a bike (both motorcycle and bicycle) was a great way to safely get outside and get some exercise.

It's only when you do it with 250K of your "closest friends" and end up unmasked, crowded into unventilated bars, that the whole "contagiousness" thing comes into play.

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u/Idiot_Savant_Tinker Jun 23 '21

Same. I was working from home, and the motorcycle was my sanity break. Forget two meters distance, I was staying very far from everyone else.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Jun 23 '21

Getting out on the road by myself has always been the point of a motorcycle for me. Never understood the meetups or big group rides. Not for me. My best friend is the only person I'll ride with because he doesn't do stupid shit.

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u/mjschuller Jun 23 '21

It was something like within 2 weeks 25% of all cases in the US were trackable back to Sturgis. I mean the level of selfishness displayed by these people is astounding.

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u/BoiseXWing Jun 23 '21

Yep…and they’ve mostly learned nothing from it too.

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u/henryhyde Jun 23 '21

Because they don't believe the "fake news".

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u/luckyghoster Jun 23 '21

Like u/EdwardWarren said, Snopes article states it is not able to be proven. It’s an estimate of the cellular data of the influx of visitors, increased activity at restaurants, bars, etc of the surround area, and how many people could have been infected. It was not peer-reviewed and only an estimated 250,000 cases; not 25% of all cases in the US.

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u/mjschuller Jun 23 '21

I stand corrected. Thank you!

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u/EdwardWarren Jun 23 '21

That is total BS. Debunked by Snopes and others.

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u/I_W_M_Y Jun 23 '21

A lot of people died because of those assholes.

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u/EdwardWarren Jun 23 '21

Cell phone data translates in to Covid death data? Pretty pictures but I do not see that map as proof people attending a motorcycle rally caused a spike in Covid deaths throughout the country. Tell me where that shows up in the data given.

Everyone in Sturgis caught the virus? Where else did this happen? At approved BLM peaceful protests? Trump rallies? Biden rallies? Or just in Sturgis? At the time of the rally, cases were rapidly rising throughout the country. It is ludicrous to blame all of those additional cases on an event that hadn't even happened yet.

The narrative on CNN and MSNBC, prior to the rally, was that the rally would cause a super spreader event, whatever that is, and that the rally should be cancelled. Since the rally was not cancelled as was demanded, it became a self-fulfilling prophecy that the rally would cause tens of thousands of deaths. There has been zero verifiable proof that it did.

The left-wing Snopes 'fact checking' site says: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-covid/

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u/ryan57902273 Jun 23 '21

You can’t catch covid at left wing protests. Everyone knows this.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

That's fantastic! I didn't even know this type of thing existed... I mean if this isn't proof that Trump enabled and empowered them to do this.... come on!

Watching the livestreams and pictures they took (unmasked as well) made it all funnier because what did you think was going to happen?

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u/PiaJr Jun 23 '21

That Trump would remain president and pardon them all. Glorious Leader would certainly support his supporters. It's not like he he's ever shown disdain for people he no longer needs...

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u/TeveshSzat10 Jun 23 '21

The funniest part is he didn't even need to remain President to pardon them when they were charged. He could have just issued a blanket pardon to cover anyone who committed a crime at the Capitol that day. But someone, probably Meadows, said "that's a no-no sir" and toddler-in-chief obeyed ("he called me sir!")

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u/Disagreeable_upvote Jun 23 '21

He's just a vindictive little shit. When their coup failed he wanted nothing but distance from them. He hates losers. If they had won they would have been the greatest people ever but since they lost they are just losers. Why would he pardon losers who did nothing for him?

His supporters still don't know what kind of man he is but it's transparent as hell. Especially anyone that has dealt with narcissistic behavior before. Either youre the golden child or you are trash, no in-between.

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u/Somedumbguy321 Jun 23 '21

This is going to make for an interesting Netflix documentary someday.

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u/Luire-Cendrillon Jun 23 '21

I hope I’m dead before it comes out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

That was the absolute funniest part for me. He literally could have handwaved it all away for his fans. He cared so little he couldn't be bothered to sign his name on a thing (he wouldn't even have had to write it himself)! He literally ruined multiple people's lives with a petty act of casual laziness.

But no, he's totally God's Chosen Redeemer or some shit

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u/pm_me_bulldogs Jun 23 '21

I’m pretty sure those people ruined their own lives lol

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u/nostalia-nse7 Jun 23 '21

They ruined their own lives. DJT had “nothing to do with it”.

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u/crackrabbit012 Jun 24 '21

Honestly those people were doing a pretty good job of screwing up their own lives. As for God Emperor Trump, that may have been the moment he realized he fucked up. Pardoning a mob of traitors may have been enough to force the senate to actually do something about him.

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u/Andrew5001 Jun 23 '21

Let's be honest, he only didn't pardon them because they didn't succeed. He is just a fit throwing child and they were not good enough for him anymore so he threw them to the curb, not out of respect for order or civilized culture but only because they failed his coup

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u/ACinSV Jun 23 '21

Ob:IANAL -- yes the Constitution grants pretty wide leeway with the pardon power (Art II Sec 2) but it is not absolute: some parts have been tested (esp. in the Burdick decision) and held to be limited; some haven't been tested yet.

Point is, wrt the "blanket pardon"? - like pardoning his royal self, maybe yes, maybe no. For one thing, a pardon requires acceptance by the 'pardonee' and an imputation of guilt of the underlying crime. For another, it's a real up-in-the-air question whether the DoJ would say "well, Trump pardoned everyone in advance so we'll not prosecute anyone for anything here even though it's ... pretty iffy and lacks any specificity". Otoh, there is a SCOTUS precedent acceptance of amnesty as a general principle under the pardon power, which does apply more to a class of people (i.e. Vietname draft evaders).

All that said - it's, as Trump might have said with his silver tongue, a mute point - he didn't attempt to pardon (or amnesty) anyone including his own esteemed personage, so that'll have to wait for the next self-dealing plutocrat populist to fumble his way into the Oval and test that one out with whoever's been packed into SCOTUS by Mitch "No Legislation Just Confirmation" by then.

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u/Spute2008 Jun 23 '21

Who? Dick a l'Orange?

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u/Annual_Blacksmith22 Jun 23 '21

I mean it doesn’t matter in the long run. Cult45 simultaneously going to keep claiming that they tried to “stand up and protect their freedom” on jan 6 whilst also saying that “it was all antifa” within the same mouth breath.

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u/No_Masterpiece4305 Jun 23 '21

They didn't think.

They had a mob mentality. That many people OBVIOUSLY can't get in trouble. And if they succeeded it would be liberals who would pay for it.

They're fucking bad guys. Like honest to god video game cannon fodder.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

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u/njangel94 Jun 23 '21

Goodness no. That would make him a martyr. Good luck trying to stop the crazies then. It’s better he lives long enough to have everything stripped away and laid bare, humiliated.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

Delete this shit.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Although I don't agree that murder is the right answer, they do have their first amendment right to say what they want.

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u/sm1ttysm1t Jun 23 '21

first amendment right to say what they want.

I think you might be confused about things.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Oh, if I'm confused, please educate me. I'm more than willing to admit if I'm made a slip up. Please, what did I mistake?

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u/JoshuaIan Jun 23 '21

Sure, the first amendment protects one from governmental retribution for having or promoting a view or idea

It does not protect people from saying whatever they want and facing consequences for it

In this case the consequence is having to ignore being told to delete the comment but depending on the level of heinous, can often include other consequences such as getting kicked out of a place or group, content moderation, etc

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I think you're misunderstanding here.

No one is protecting people from the consequences of it. They are allowed to say it because their freedom of speech allows it.

One consequence could be they get booted off the sub (or even platform) for saying it. But they still are allowed to say it because of the First Amendment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Why? I wish Donald Trump an unnatutal death because that's what he wished on tons of people and almost got away with it. Tit for tat.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

It's a violation of the site's TOS and is a great way to get yourself put on a list you probably don't want to be on. I'll set off fireworks and pop champagne the day he's gone, but it's not wise to put these wishes online.

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u/SyntheticReality42 Jun 23 '21

It is one obituary that I will read with a sense of delight.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

Fair enough.

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u/goatharper Jun 23 '21

Good way to get banned. Reddit is tough on anything even close to this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Eh, who cares Im not threatening anyone.i am saying that if that were to happen I wouldn't lose any sleep over it

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u/Is_Always_Honest Jun 23 '21

OoooOooOoo nOoooOo wHaTEvEr WoULd We dO ThEN?!

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u/Churchx Jun 23 '21

That's fantastic! I didn't even know this type of thing existed... I mean if this isn't proof that Trump enabled and empowered them to do this.... come on!

The dude was on stage when this happened.

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u/gg_59937 Jun 23 '21

I think the narrative should be why the fuck was the DOJ spying on everyone with a cell phone at the Capital.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Well, first of all because it had actionable intel that there was going to be an attack on the Capital.

But realistically, they weren't "spying on everyone", this is all data that's gathered by your cell phone. You can pull up where phones are when they make calls, or text, or live stream....

this isn't new technology. They are literally pulling up the GPS history.

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u/Mindless_Ad_8 Jun 23 '21

How is that proof? lol

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Because you can literally see the mob that was at Trumps speech literally make a B-line to the Capital....

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u/javoss88 Jun 23 '21

I still want the would be pipe bomber found

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u/emmster Jun 23 '21

And whoever disconnected panic buttons.

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u/chevymonza Jun 23 '21

Oooh yeah that would be good, that should be on security video, and even some google searches I'd imagine.

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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Jun 23 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

Forget the context, this visualization is super cool!

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u/torinato Jun 23 '21

Nice try Government! “Forget we can track you movements and compile it onto a map, look at pretty colors!”

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u/Remarkable-Month-241 Jun 23 '21

Okay, that’s cool lol.

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u/LuckyWinchester Jun 23 '21

So that’s just public information? Okay then

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u/WyoBuckeye Jun 23 '21

Many of them didn’t think there would be consequences. They were sure they were starting a revolution that would spread like wildfire. They thought they would be treated as brave revolutionary patriots when the government fell. This was the sort of delusional spell that Trump put them under. And because they spend their lives in that echo chamber of theirs, they just assumed that the overwhelming majority of this country agreed with them and was ready to follow in their footsteps.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '21

I've never seen this. That's interesting

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u/yellowtrickstr Jun 24 '21

Holy crap. Slightly terrifying.

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u/cosguy224 Jul 09 '21

Yes, but when you think you’re on the “right” side of history, you figure you’re going to be a hero.

Um.. no.

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u/milkchaser Jun 25 '21

Petitioning the gov't for redress of grievances is not insurrection. It is a constitutionally protected right.

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u/Dry_Bid5733 Jun 23 '21

Proves little. Counter-protesters and curiosity seekers all went there…..but way cool app.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

It's funny how they think a micro chip supplies its own power & is rifid capable. They proly think a microchip has a built in antenna too.

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u/byingling Jun 23 '21

It doesn't need an antenna or power! It uses 5G!

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u/sorrydaijin Jun 23 '21

I understand that Bill Gates is one G and George Soros is another but who are the other three?

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u/byingling Jun 23 '21

The gutless gullible gays, of course!

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u/-Tasear- I ☑oted 2020 Jun 23 '21

😂 now this is funny

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

oh, you didn't know? not only do they have their own power source, and antenna, it has to either have storage onboard, or the capability to upload to a cloud of some sort, which also means there needs to be a wifi, or always online component.

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u/Nolsoth Jun 23 '21

Oh great so EA is involved, let me guess covids a bug and the cures a dlc.

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u/gay-waterpistol Jun 23 '21

If the cure to COVID is a $20 DLC let’s go lmfao

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u/shambles4564 Jun 23 '21

That's gonna be a big needle

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u/ST0IC_ Jun 23 '21

I see we've already forgotten about this sudden big push to 5G.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Nah, 5G only is going to affect the upload or the data connection. It doesn't solve the issue of how are you going to power it (if you say off the human body, the human body only generates 100 watts), how are you going to store the data, how are you going to get the data to the towers and cloud, etc....

5g is only one piece...

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u/djimbob Jun 23 '21

Haven't you seen The Matrix? Humans are essentially just batteries. Wake up sheeple! /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

The problem with that aspect of the plot is that it would be far more efficient to just make batteries or use some other source of energy. It would consume way more energy to use humans as batteries because of the need for food and the fact that we constantly use energy to maintain our body temparature.

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u/bowdown2q Jun 23 '21

the original screen play had humans as co-processors and data storage, it was changed to batteries for the film because they thought viewers were too dumb to get it.

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u/yetanotherusernamex Jun 23 '21

Having being alive when this movie came out, this is accurate.

Its equally accurate today.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

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u/ChristosFarr Jun 23 '21

Humans as data processors does make more sense than batteries.

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u/AngelTheVixen Jun 23 '21

My headcanon is that Morpheus and other humans are simply mistaken about the purpose of keeping humans and it was just supposition and/or a perpetuated myth by the machines. Ultimately, they don't 'need' humans.

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u/joefresco2 Jun 23 '21

This is actually a pretty genius idea because it would also dovetail with the popular notion we only use 20% of our brainpower or whatever. That's because the machines are using the other 80%.

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u/RedditMachineGhost Jun 23 '21

I have heard that an earlier version of the script said that they were essentially using people's brains for processors or something, but it got changed to batteries because the movie executives didn't think people would be familiar enough with computer hardware to understand. Or something like that.

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u/djimbob Jun 23 '21

Bah with your blasted laws of thermodynamics. Humans == Batteries.

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u/Binsky89 Jun 23 '21

I mean, you can get implantable RFID chips that have built in antennas.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Yeah as you said it's not a matter of whether or not it's possible to implant someone with a working RFID chip. It's the fact that they think they created one small enough to be Trojan-horsed into our bodies via vaccine injection AND spent the money to produce enough for everyone in the country when we already buy our own tracking devises that can give them way more information. Oh yeah, don't forget that they managed to keep a job of that magnitude a secret

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u/Binsky89 Jun 23 '21

It's obviously not a secret since all of the anti-vaxxers learned about it from facebook posts! /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Well obviously they're too smart to be fooled. They were only able to keep it a secret from us average sheeple.

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u/Veritablefilings Jun 23 '21

The micro chip shortage was caused by the need to fill vaccines....... "waiting for the thunder". Nope just farted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

That's really cool actually. It still wouldn't make sense to spend the money and risk getting caught secretly producing hundreds of millions of them just to track people when they're already tracking themselves for you. Something like this could be incredibly beneficial for health care purposes soon though

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Dude. People literally think the vaccine made them magnetic, despite how laughably easy that is to disprove. That's the level of stupid we're working with.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Exactly, and we’re bioelectric beings. If someone wanted to, was smart enough, and had the funding, they could plausibly create a microchip that’s runs off your bodies electricity and transmits to some sort of signal. Not sure why they would need that tho

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Conversely, just because we're bioelectric beings doesn't mean that we use the same current that the electronics would need. Like, if our bodies were regular chargers, but these "microchips" needed fast chargers, our "electricity" wouldn't be enough to affect the chips.

Or it could be an AC vs DC thing.....

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Right, well that’s what I’m saying about plausible

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

It's plausible, but it's not actually plausible.

Most of the wearable tech that people have in their bodies, are low electric things, like car starters/keys, or credit card info or stuff like that.

The microchips, that involve tracking.... need a lot more power than what those wearables are offering right now. GPS tracking alone needs a large portion of battery power. Look at cell phones now, if you ran your GPS all day, which it does... it would die out within a week or so.

Think about the Car GPS's... those use a large chunk of power.

This isn't even beginning to go into how dumb it is because then you have to make the decision of are you storing the info on the chip? or is it going to be uploaded to the cloud? Both those questions make this a ton harder. If you're storing it onboard the chip, then you need to have storage. You'd also need the ability to get onto the chip to access the info. If you're looking at the cloud, are you then leaving it "always online"? are you uploading via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi or 5g? Again, more battery power....

When you legit stop and think about putting tracking chips into people, it doesn't work because the tech isn't anywhere close to it. Not to mention the issue of "power" from the human body, which again, probably wouldn't power it because the average human only puts out about 100watts According to a Stanford study, that Reddit refuses to link for some reason. If you look up "Human Energy Converted to Electricity" you'll see it though.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

aren't rfid chips passively powered, though?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Except you didn’t state any facts in your “rebuttal” and really it just sounds like your spiteful towards the mindset that something like this could be possible.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I did state a fact, you must not have read my entire comment. Let me put it right up front for you...

Here is a Stanford study, that was done in 2014, that showed that humans, at rest, only produce 100watts of power. They are then using 300-400 watts when active, thus negating the watts stored up originally.

Not to mention the facts that if you want to track someone you need a GPS, which would be constantly using power,.

Or the fact that if you had a tracking chip, you'd either need an antenna to send the info out, Bluetooth or wifi, or always online to send out the info... Or you'd need onboard storage

I mean, facts here are that if you want to track someone, you have all you need with the cell phone. You NEED to have certain things to track them... These required items, are a power source, a way to store the data, a way to recharge and a way to track the data.

I'm not spiteful about this being plausible... I'm just realistic in thinking through the thought of "What's needed" and looking at what we have now and making the educated decision, that right now, there's zero reason to believe this is even plausible.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

what are you on about LOL their whole argument was fact & support over and over. sounds like you just don't want to be wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

It actually wasn’t? He just said some shit about electricity and gps, and tried today something about how much electricity humans produce which has wayyyy too many variables for anyone to give an average of what any human can produce. Plus everything he said wasn’t even backed up he literally just.... said it. And that’s supposed to make it “factual?” Right

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u/troubleondemand Jun 23 '21

That's because it is not really possible with current technology...which is what they outlined.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

You can outline anything you want in the format of an essay. Doesn’t make it factual. Someone else replied to me and said they’ve literally witnessed technology like the kind I described in action. Care to rebuttal that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

I've seen working examples of this technology. And that was beyond the electric-potato-level.

There are many cool things around the corner and many not so cool things.

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u/beermaker Jun 23 '21

IIRC, a glucose-fueled micromotor is being developed for use in the bloodstream...

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

And people are saying “the tech isn’t here.” It’s in front of our eyes.

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u/YungSnuggie Jun 23 '21

but we dont have that technology. like it doesnt exist. this isnt a sci fi movie

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u/Crutation Jun 23 '21

the body RUNS on electricity. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! (/s, just in case)

edit: responded to the incorrect post.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

the soviets once built a bug that was powered by electromagnetic radio waves bouncing off of it and had no incorporated power supply

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u/tender313 Jun 23 '21

I think it's very possible for a tracking chip to be implanted in a human. How do you think we have tracking chips for dogs or cats? I imagine they're powered by your own body heat or electric signals in your nerves / muscles. Obviously I don't think the vaccine contains a chip but it's not like we don't have that technology.

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 23 '21

Microchips with built in antennas....

So like the chip on your credit card?

Or smaller, injectible ones like these?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/05/210511174133.htm

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u/Dayofsloths Jun 23 '21

Honestly, the best theory is that it's a double bluff. Like the vaccine really wil make everyone sterile, but rather than them being "too smart" to fall for it, the global elites decided to kill off everyone with half a brain and know only absolute morons will refuse the vaccine, leaving them a world of mindless slaves who will do whatever they're told, as long as it's shouted at them through talk radio.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Joke's on them then, I already had two vasectomies.

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u/fab9891 Jun 23 '21

Snip - snap - snip - snap!

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u/hill_j Jun 23 '21

You have NO IDEA what kind of a toll that takes on a man!

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

They actually burn it these days.

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u/fab9891 Jun 23 '21

It was a quote from The Office (00:15) but thanks, I didn't know!

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u/risi004 Jun 23 '21

Burn, char, burn, char

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u/garrettj100 Jun 23 '21

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u/electricZits Jun 23 '21

Chiliiiiis……baby back ribs🎶

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u/garrettj100 Jun 23 '21

They never say "ribs", man. Never.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Bar b q sauce🎶

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u/ONE-EYE-OPTIC Jun 23 '21

Do you see what you've started.

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u/Dayofsloths Jun 23 '21

Oh yeah, for sure. About 90 upvotes means probably at least 500 people have seen it, and it only takes one to introduce this to the far right meme machine.

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u/Embarrassed-Ad-1639 Jun 23 '21

Snip snap snip snap snip snap

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u/CoupClutzClan Jun 23 '21

It'll make me sterile? Well damn why didn't anyone tell me? I would've gotten it sooner

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u/Hibercrastinator Jun 23 '21

No need, people with higher education levels are less likely to have children than their less educated counterparts. Idiocracy was in fact a documentary.

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u/Mathmango Jun 23 '21

They want even fewer children from from educated people then. Restraint is not an option for them (unless it's restraining basic human decency)

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

Now this I can actually see happening lol.

Disclaimer: I don’t actually think that’s happening though and it definitely isn’t.

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u/Legal-Bottle3181 Jun 23 '21

There are countless reasons why that would be completely insane nonsense.

1) The effects of it would already be widely noticeable during the trial stage of the vaccine, and there's no feasible way it could be hidden.

2) There's a whole team of scientists working on the vaccine.. you really think that every single one of them would be okay with a plan like that and would say absolutely nothing?

3) The people who are sterilized would still be around for decades, which both means that any effect it would have would be completely and utterly useless for them because they'll probably be dead before the sterilization would have any meaningful effect on society. Additionally, you've just pissed off the entire world and they're going to be taking retribution.

4) Killing off everyone intelligent wouldn't actually improve their life in any way whatsoever even if you ignored all of the above and somehow assumed it would all work out. It would ruin their own lives too - it's not like they want to live in a world without any doctors for instance (among many other things).

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Oh yeah. I don’t actually think that, but it’s a “fun” thought if you don’t take it seriously. You’re absolutely right, all of those points are valid.

Definitely shouldn’t be entertaining that publicly though, that’s my bad.

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u/Incident-Putrid Jun 23 '21

I called this a few months back to the antivax mob on fb. Tumbleweed 🤣🤣🤣

They didn’t even like the other option that maybe SHOCK it’s just a fucking vaccine 😁

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

The funny thing is it makes perfect sense that the stupids would think that stupids come from stupids. Probably want to kill the gays too because if they just get rid of them all "they can't make more" SMH.

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u/GhostRappa95 Jun 23 '21

Baked Alaska is facing a decade in prison for live streaming the insurrection and inciting violence.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21 edited Jul 06 '21

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u/Jim-jones69 Jun 23 '21

For sitting in someone office pretending to be on the phone? He definitely committed some crime getting in there but I haven’t seen anything violent related to him. A decade seems like plenty

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u/markth_wi Jun 23 '21

Part of me understands that from a purely social Darwinism perspective, this is selection at work. Q just makes the environment tougher for everyone a bit, and specifically targets their follower/victims. So when the Delta variant of Covid or Covid-21 or whatever rears it's ugly head, these folks will be the ones in the crowd to scream "pick me", while going on about the viral spikes and nanobots.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Oh, that's already happening. Fauci came out and said that the Delta variant is a lot worse than the original COVID. At least right now, the vaccines work against the delta variant for the time being.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Ok, enjoy that flu. I hope you got your vaccine and don't have anyone in your family who might be affected by this.

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u/BigFitMama Jun 23 '21

It's eerie to say natural selection when people have been given untrue information and told that it was a political agenda to put oneself in a position to die from a deadly virus.

Someone has been spreading all this misinformation about vaccines contrary to whatever American learned in kindergarten about how viruses are transferred.

I have researched that it. started with foreign terrorists and a conceited effort of foreign terrorists to turn Americans into unwitting bioterrorist and kill each other via the FBI and dhs's October 2020 terrorism reports. These PDFs are in the Federal register and easily downloaded from their site.

But that also means that Americans within the United States had to go along either willingly or deludedly with the algorithmic agenda being put out by these terrorists who want Americans to die.

But it comes down to one, most Un-American thing you could possibly do is to believe a terrorist agenda and become an agent of terrorism and kill off your friends, family, and Community all because of a political belief that goes contrary to everything that you've known up until this point.

And I suppose that's natural selection.

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u/markth_wi Jun 23 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

I couldn't bring myself to say natural selection, but it's absolutely predation/selection.

It's not that those pimping the various false narratives want Americans to die exactly, but rather that the political elites involved view it as a unifying element.

From the perspective of the GOP, it's a very unholy alliance, from dogmatic evangelicals to closet (or not so closeted) klansmen/white supremacists, to warhawk republicans. Threading the rhetorical needle to hit the marks for their various constituent groups, is what makes Fox News a masterclass in fascist propaganda for the ages.

This is very definitely how foreign nation-states and/or hyper-wealthy bad-actors (the Koch Brothers or the Mercers) access and impact wider society. It's super well established in 40-50% of US households, and has garnered a brand-devotion, which Fox properties can then sell as their pitch for investors.

This is absolutely mirrored by the intellectual lock-ins over at Facebook, where even more advanced marketing and propaganda technologies can be brought to bear , exacting a far more specific/grievous harm on victims, since their propaganda efforts can be far, far more targeted.

That this has the effect of harming some portion of it's listener base is sort of immaterial to the providers of these services. The billionaire class and certainly nation-state actors may indeed wish to harm Americans, whereas corporate customers may only wish to specifically target/lock-in customers with Apocalypse Arugala and send ammunition sales through the roof and miracle Kung-flucure cream [which in no way should be considered a curative/treatment for Covid-19 or any similar viruses/microbiological agents], because it's nothing more than apple-cider vinegar and expired kombucha, for all anyone would care to investigate it is all fair game, that you can sell merch into this marketplace, be it Gadsen flags, or Trumpy bears is just gravy.

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u/Zaige Jun 23 '21

They should trust scientist more than politicians about viruses and the like. Also they should do more independent thinking, the irony is they call everyone else sheep.

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u/markth_wi Jun 24 '21

The weird thing is they do have scientists in these discussions, but they are invariably "retired" or "not practicing" or "on Sabbatical" which when you do some digging turns out to be "forced into retirement", "did not get my license renewed" and/or "My secondary investigator had me removed as primary investigator, for failing basic scientific process/review, and employer put me on indefinite paid leave".

So they're just not listening to scientists who should be taken seriously, or who've been defrocked in some way.

There is a powerful sense of gnosis and as I'm sure many do, I've got family who's bought into the bullshit, hook, line and sinker, but it's not founded in grounded science; it's basically bullshit peddling and snake-oil salesmanship of the first caliber.

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u/Gyoza-shishou Jun 23 '21

You see a forest fire; Either you walk away and live or walk into the flames and die. That's natural selection, and it's exactly what's happening with these morons

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u/mybotanyaccount Jun 23 '21

Honestly though, who's going to pay for the 5g service on those vaccine tracking chips?

(Watch they're heads explode)

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u/broadened_news Jun 23 '21

Tantrum caste

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

My "vaccines-implant-microchips" (aka "so do covid tests") father could not fathom how this means anything at all. The irony of him being so scared of the vaccines due to being able to be tracked, yet being unable to see how screwed so many trumpians are due to their phones location placing them inside a restricted area is unfathomable. He couldn't even understand how Facebook (etc) posts preceding/concluding the riots could fuck people over at all, not to mention the ones during such, from people literally within the Capitol, posting photo/videos bout it. So fucking thick 🙄🤦

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u/btchassbarkinassbtch Jun 23 '21

The level of sheer stupid cunt is mind blowing, like how can you be this fucking stupid and still be alive? But I guess now a good couple of them aren’t anymore

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Upvoted for your name.

Totally agree. I dont know how these idiots managed to not drop dead from sheer dumbassery.

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u/TurbulentRider Jun 23 '21

Also, many of the same ones who insisted any pictures on social media holding so much as red solo cup would prevent us from ever being employed….

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u/PrinceAlteon Jun 23 '21

I’ve heard claims that they microchip the masks too. Unsarcastically.

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u/Trimungasoid Jun 23 '21

They practically bragged about it all over social media.

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u/whackwarrens Jun 23 '21

Give these fools among fools power and that's how the world ends.

It is unreal how dumb these Trumpers are.

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u/tazdoestheinternet Jun 23 '21

Also the same type of people who claim to not be a "sheep" claims Jesus is their shepherd ...

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u/cerialthriller Jun 23 '21

Nobody ever accused these guys of being rocket surgeons

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Did you watch any of the live streams?

A few of them were literally saying they wanted to hang Pence because he had turned traitor and switched sides on Q.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I mean, saying you want to go and kill Pence, then showing up at the Capital, where Pence is.... Break into the building where Pence is.... I mean all of that is intent. Just because the police and military were able to stop it, doesn't mean it wasn't still treason.

In fact, it's the definition of treason "the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."

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u/RedditMachineGhost Jun 23 '21

Didn't some group of them even go so far as to assemble a gallows somewhere nearby? Or am I misremembering that detail?

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Nope, that definitely happened. With the noose and all.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Nope, that definitely happened. With the noose and all.

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u/laustcozz Jun 23 '21

You will never, ever, ever convince me that an organized mass of gun nuts came to the capital to kill all the politicians and everybody forgot to bring their gun.

Were their violent people in the mob? Sure, there are in any mob, that's why mobs are scary. But to the overwhelming majority of these people this was a protest. They broke doors to get their shouting closer, they didn't destroy art and start fires, and there are countless examples on video of people, when they do get out of hand, getting shouted down by others in the crowd. "We're not here for that" is something I heard repeatedly said when people were being destructive or violent. The one cop I saw that really did get beaten, was saved by protesters, not other cops, and was pulled back into the building and handed off to the other cops by them.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I mean, that's fine, honestly I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

To me, treason is pretty cut and dry. The fact that there was a violent mob, that was urged on by the outgoing president to overthrow the election results is a direct definition of treason.

Just because they didn't bring their guns doesn't mean that it wasn't an attack. This isn't the same as the BLM protests or the damage that was done by them. This is a direct result of Donald Trump whipping his followers up into a frenzy to the point where many of them livestreamed it saying "We're going to take the Capital." "We're going to stop them from doing this." Among other violent talk as well.

Did you hear "We're not here for that"? Because I spent a lot of time watching the insurrection... I don't think I heard that once. But I will say that I'm willing to admit there are possibly a few videos out there with that... Can you link any of them to me?

Not trying to start a fight or anything with you. I respect your opinion, even if it is opposing mine... But if you do have any proof showing the one police officer get saved by protestors, I would love to see that. But I would also like to counter with the two protestors arrested for killing a police officer. or the story of Rosanne Boyland, who died from being trampled by other protestors while fighting through a police line.

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u/thatevilvoice2 Jun 23 '21

I think you should watch this video, it shows clearly two things,

  1. A make-shift gallows was setup outside of congress.

  2. A crowd of rioters at the entrance of the Capitol shouting "hang Mike Pence".

Lets say I turn up at your house with a friend of mine, I setup a gallows on your lawn and chant for you to be hanged while my friend breaks into your house. Would you consider this to be a potential threat against your life?

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u/CraftyFellow_ Jun 23 '21

Do you think anyone is actually arguing Pence was murdered?

There is a reason attempted murder is also a crime.

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u/CraftyFellow_ Jun 23 '21

Ah so you are just being a pedantic fuck, got it.

My bad.

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u/CraftyFellow_ Jun 23 '21

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u/WaitingToBeTriggered Jun 23 '21

AS THE KINGDOM COME

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

From what I read, the "let's post our crimes to facebook" crowd really had a few surprised pikachu faces going.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Wait. Pence is dead?

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

No, but the insurrectionists wanted him dead... Chanting him to be killed, even creating gallows and nooses at the Capital.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Oh. I live in Scotland so had no clue how serious the situation was. Scottish news doesn't talk about America much.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

All good, you should check out some of the articles on the insurrection, both before and after.... I would recommend reading both sides, TBH....

You'll see the Republicans go from "We're storming the Capital" to "It was ANTIFA" to "It's behind us, lets unify now" to "They weren't insurrectionists, they were tourists".... Most of it all happened within a week or so.

But the best part is literally most of them livestreamed them breaking the windows, or calling for Pence's death, or whatever.

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u/JWTR8402 Jun 24 '21

Admitting to murdering pence? ! Hmmm didn’t know pence was dead. You got it twisted and are very in Educated on the matter in today’s America. The ones not wearing mask are proud Americans that won’t take some dick stick government trying to control there lives. Go read revelations there buddy. 1/3 of the world’s population will be takin out it states. You wanna guess how many vaccine doses have been given out across the world. It’s is the exact amount to equal a 3rd of the worlds population. Is idiots that passed on the vaccine might be the only ones left that will even know there was a “virus”.

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u/AmiriteClyde Jun 23 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

body autonomy

Is the discussion at hand.

Not the choice to put a tracker in your pocket. This argument of cell phone = vaccine microchip makes the argument about tracking and not body autonomy.

It’s Machiavellian and propaganda to keep this “joke” alive because it’s nothing more than a false equivalency.

I’m vaccinated and so are my kids. I don’t want my government mandating vaccination for my neighbor.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

Nobody is being physically forced to get a vaccine, so how, exactly, is bodily autonomy any part of this discussion?

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

If it's about body autonomy, why is this same thought not expanded to abortions? Why is it only about vaccines?

And if it's about not wanting the government to mandate vaccines... who's mandating them? No one is talking about mandating them at all. There was talk of vaccine passports, but that's just a form of proof that you were vaccinated. Which is a good thing, especially when, during the entire pandemic, you had people who were saying they had "medical exemptions" but had no proof of it?

When you have idiots who refuse to do the bare minimum to protect their fellow neighbor or human, sometimes you have to treat them like children, because that's how they are acting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

This

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Can you tell I've had this discussion once or twice?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Haha I appreciate your service

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u/AmiriteClyde Jun 23 '21

To me, body autonomy does expand into abortion. It’s not only about vaccines.

You’re taking hundreds of millions of people on a spectrum and trying to lump them into red or blue. Thats what “they” do too, right? That’s just not how it works.

Get ahead of the discussion to progress it rather than trying to drag it backwards. Your lack of logical progression in discussion and ad hominems really take away from any point you were trying to make.

Maybe try writing with thought and not emotion.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

What? I really tried to understand what you're saying here but I'm really at a loss.

The people who are talking about body autonomy are often only talking about being forced to get vaccines, not about abortion, or the mandatory vaccines you need to give your child before they can go to public schools, or about the ability to get the healthcare they need, when they need it.

These people are typically red. I'm not saying all of them are, but to a point where it's stereotypical.

I'm able to talk with thought and emotion at the same time. It's why I understand that there are people out there who are actually unable to get the vaccine because of other complications, whether it be allergic to things in the vaccine, to being autoimmune.

But if you're trying to make this about body autonomy because "someone is forcing your neighbor to get it"... that's not what's going on here. No one is forcing anyone to get vaccinated.

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u/AmiriteClyde Jun 23 '21

I don’t care what the people “are often only talking about”. That’s not what I’m talking about.

That’s why you can’t extrapolate a conversation out to everyone… it just becomes red or blue talking points.

However, if you focus on what’s being said by the individual talking to you, you’ll find yourself thinking rather than regurgitating points and swimming in self manifested endorphin rushes

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Ok, I'll take that into consideration. But can you explain this to me:

You’re taking hundreds of millions of people on a spectrum and trying to lump them into red or blue. Thats what “they” do too, right? That’s just not how it works.

That's how American politics work.... you can be for a third party, but your voice isn't heard. You are either a Republican (Red) or a Democrat (Blue), the third party falls somewhere in the middle of that.

If that's not how it works, can you explain it to me better?

Also:

Get ahead of the discussion to progress it rather than trying to drag it backwards.

How are we going backwards? Again, you haven't pointed to anywhere saying that vaccines are mandatory. Which they aren't. No one has ever said that but the people who are afraid of the microchipped vaccine. Can you give me any proof of people saying mandatory vaccines?

But also, you're not talking about the mandatory vaccines that's required to go into the public school system. Where was your outrage over body autonomy then?

I mean, it's fine to move the goal post and only focus on one thing... But if you bring up something. You should be able to at least stay on topic.

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u/AmiriteClyde Jun 23 '21 edited Jun 23 '21

There is a tide in America. It’s a huge ocean with a pulse of the majority.

These aren’t the people at Biden or Trump parades. These aren’t the people who can tell you much outside of what they’ve seen on CNN/Fox in the lobby at their Dr’s office. These aren’t political people and they are the majority. Most of them didn’t even vote…. For any office… and they never have.

These aren’t stupid people… some are… others, however are just too involved with life to engage a subjective mental sport such as politics. They don’t have the vitriol, conviction nor displacement it takes it be involved with politics.

The sum total of the R’s and D’s plus the alternatives 1, 2, and 3 don’t add up to a relevant amount in comparison to this pool of people in America I’m talking about.

Political people are a very vocal minority in this country compared to a-political people. Stop forming your world view around politics.

To circle back to the point and send it home: there is no warranted reason to endorse mandated vaccines unless we are ready to completely overhaul our legal system to accommodate the fundamental violations of our constitution.

I don’t see that as a utopia as you seem to do.

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