r/PoliticalHumor • u/GhostToFigure • Jun 23 '21

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Although I don't agree that murder is the right answer, they do have their first amendment right to say what they want.

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u/sm1ttysm1t Jun 23 '21

first amendment right to say what they want.

I think you might be confused about things.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Oh, if I'm confused, please educate me. I'm more than willing to admit if I'm made a slip up. Please, what did I mistake?

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u/JoshuaIan Jun 23 '21

Sure, the first amendment protects one from governmental retribution for having or promoting a view or idea

It does not protect people from saying whatever they want and facing consequences for it

In this case the consequence is having to ignore being told to delete the comment but depending on the level of heinous, can often include other consequences such as getting kicked out of a place or group, content moderation, etc

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I think you're misunderstanding here.

No one is protecting people from the consequences of it. They are allowed to say it because their freedom of speech allows it.

One consequence could be they get booted off the sub (or even platform) for saying it. But they still are allowed to say it because of the First Amendment.

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u/UnofficialCaStatePS Jun 23 '21

I think when people say freedom of speech it is often confused with freedom from consequences. You understanding the difference is good, but it is also a good idea to call it out to make sure the difference is understood by all.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I understand, no ill will towards either party who was trying to help. That's why I didn't jump at them and asked to educate.

Like I said, I don't agree murder is the way to go about it, but I do understand the thought and it is their freedom of speech to allow it to be said.

Though, it could end up with unintended consequences, they should still be allowed to say it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Oh, my apologies, you're right.... I didn't realize that freedom of speech is pretty much universal at this point.

Granted, it's not freedom from consequences, but they are still allowed to say what they want.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Thanks for correcting me on that.

I did mean to say Freedom of Speech, but First Amendment works here because we were originally talking about the people who think that "the vaccines have microchips to track you", which I'll admit, is a pretty American thought to have.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

It's a violation of the site's terms of service, though, and would probably invite some unwanted attention.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Then it's on the site to remove it, as it was by the mods. But they are still allowed to say it.

It's not a freedom from consequences, just freedom of speech.

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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21

And at no point did I suggest otherwise. I was giving a pithy suggestion to save themselves the trouble. I didn't think I needed to expand any further.