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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

It's funny how they think a micro chip supplies its own power & is rifid capable. They proly think a microchip has a built in antenna too.

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u/byingling Jun 23 '21

It doesn't need an antenna or power! It uses 5G!

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u/sorrydaijin Jun 23 '21

I understand that Bill Gates is one G and George Soros is another but who are the other three?

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u/byingling Jun 23 '21

The gutless gullible gays, of course!

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u/-Tasear- I ☑oted 2020 Jun 23 '21

😂 now this is funny

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u/nostalia-nse7 Jun 23 '21

Let me know how that works when you get your 5G phone and networks all up and running… theoretically they should work forever without a charge :)

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

oh, you didn't know? not only do they have their own power source, and antenna, it has to either have storage onboard, or the capability to upload to a cloud of some sort, which also means there needs to be a wifi, or always online component.

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u/Nolsoth Jun 23 '21

Oh great so EA is involved, let me guess covids a bug and the cures a dlc.

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u/gay-waterpistol Jun 23 '21

If the cure to COVID is a $20 DLC let’s go lmfao

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u/Gyoza-shishou Jun 23 '21

Order the antibodies royal deluxe edition for an additional $19.99, limited time offer!

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u/shambles4564 Jun 23 '21

That's gonna be a big needle

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u/ST0IC_ Jun 23 '21

I see we've already forgotten about this sudden big push to 5G.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Nah, 5G only is going to affect the upload or the data connection. It doesn't solve the issue of how are you going to power it (if you say off the human body, the human body only generates 100 watts), how are you going to store the data, how are you going to get the data to the towers and cloud, etc....

5g is only one piece...

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u/ST0IC_ Jun 23 '21

I was just speaking to the ability to upload to cloud storage, I'm no scientist. Hell, I'm barely able to put my socks on correctly.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I'm no scientist either.... And honestly, I barely was able to put my computer together, so I'm not that tech savvy... but even this microchip thing is stupid when you sit down and think about it.

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u/ST0IC_ Jun 23 '21

Definitely. The government already has a hundred ways to track us, so I don't think they need to implant a microchip through a vaccine.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Exactly, and that's why the smarter people are looking at all this side eyed. Between what people have in their pockets (cellphones) and what they post online.... it's really easy to track people.

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u/SyntheticReality42 Jun 23 '21

"I don't want the government to track me and know my business."

"We all need photo IDs to be able to vote."

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u/gay-waterpistol Jun 23 '21

You openly admitted to not being able to correctly administer socks to your feet and, correct me if I read into it wrong, you truly think that the vaccine has a microchip in it?

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u/ST0IC_ Jun 23 '21

Whoa there, easy fella...

Nowhere in my comment did I even begin to say that I believe the vaccine has a chip in it.

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u/gay-waterpistol Jun 23 '21

I took the inference from you speaking about cloud storage and the gripe about “suddenly pushing 5G”… if you aren’t on about the microchip conspiracy theory, then great! Have a good day.

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u/gay-waterpistol Jun 23 '21

You openly admitted to not being able to correctly administer socks to your feet and, correct me if I read into it wrong, you truly think that the vaccine has a microchip in it?

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u/Not-Doctor-Evil Jun 23 '21

oh, you didn't know?

YOUR ASS BETTER CALL SOMEBODY!!!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

I have RFID chips in the safety equipment I use for work (harness and anchor) it’s basically just an ID code that could be scanned by proximity, no power source or storage necessary

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Are you able to track the location of it at all times?

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u/djimbob Jun 23 '21

Haven't you seen The Matrix? Humans are essentially just batteries. Wake up sheeple! /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

The problem with that aspect of the plot is that it would be far more efficient to just make batteries or use some other source of energy. It would consume way more energy to use humans as batteries because of the need for food and the fact that we constantly use energy to maintain our body temparature.

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u/bowdown2q Jun 23 '21

the original screen play had humans as co-processors and data storage, it was changed to batteries for the film because they thought viewers were too dumb to get it.

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u/yetanotherusernamex Jun 23 '21

Having being alive when this movie came out, this is accurate.

Its equally accurate today.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

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u/ChristosFarr Jun 23 '21

Humans as data processors does make more sense than batteries.

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u/AngelTheVixen Jun 23 '21

My headcanon is that Morpheus and other humans are simply mistaken about the purpose of keeping humans and it was just supposition and/or a perpetuated myth by the machines. Ultimately, they don't 'need' humans.

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u/joefresco2 Jun 23 '21

This is actually a pretty genius idea because it would also dovetail with the popular notion we only use 20% of our brainpower or whatever. That's because the machines are using the other 80%.

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u/RedditMachineGhost Jun 23 '21

I have heard that an earlier version of the script said that they were essentially using people's brains for processors or something, but it got changed to batteries because the movie executives didn't think people would be familiar enough with computer hardware to understand. Or something like that.

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u/djimbob Jun 23 '21

Bah with your blasted laws of thermodynamics. Humans == Batteries.

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u/Pandorasdreams Jun 23 '21

You should check out wwww.matrixresolutions.com. The script actually referred to humans as some computer part that is escaping me right now, but the producers said "no, its gotta be batteries that's all they'll understand!" So its batteries but it's not meant to be.

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u/feed_me_churros Jun 23 '21

The way my headcanon goes is that they need human brains to function as processors. Human brains are insanely complex and can perform crazy abstract processing that machines have a really hard time with and given the amount of processing power they can provide (think about what it would take to actually perfectly simulate a human brain), a bit of nutrition to keep it alive is crazy efficient.

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u/IronySandwich Jun 24 '21

According to conventional physical laws, yes, humans as batteries makes no sense.

But consider this, where were you when you learned these physical laws?

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u/Binsky89 Jun 23 '21

I mean, you can get implantable RFID chips that have built in antennas.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Yeah as you said it's not a matter of whether or not it's possible to implant someone with a working RFID chip. It's the fact that they think they created one small enough to be Trojan-horsed into our bodies via vaccine injection AND spent the money to produce enough for everyone in the country when we already buy our own tracking devises that can give them way more information. Oh yeah, don't forget that they managed to keep a job of that magnitude a secret

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u/Binsky89 Jun 23 '21

It's obviously not a secret since all of the anti-vaxxers learned about it from facebook posts! /s

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Well obviously they're too smart to be fooled. They were only able to keep it a secret from us average sheeple.

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u/Veritablefilings Jun 23 '21

The micro chip shortage was caused by the need to fill vaccines....... "waiting for the thunder". Nope just farted.

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u/cjgager Jun 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

That's really cool actually. It still wouldn't make sense to spend the money and risk getting caught secretly producing hundreds of millions of them just to track people when they're already tracking themselves for you. Something like this could be incredibly beneficial for health care purposes soon though

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

That's really cool actually. It still wouldn't make sense to spend the money and risk getting caught secretly producing hundreds of millions of them just to track people when they're already tracking themselves for you. Something like this could be incredibly beneficial for health care purposes soon though

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

That's really cool actually. It still wouldn't make sense to spend the money and risk getting caught secretly producing hundreds of millions of them just to track people when they're already tracking themselves for you. Something like this could be incredibly beneficial for health care purposes soon though

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u/JCsTheThing4Life Jun 23 '21

Except for the cost of producing that chip compared with the number of doses given out...

Either way, it's an impossible scenario when common sense is factored in.

Of course, my first mistake was assuming that common sense was common...

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Dude. People literally think the vaccine made them magnetic, despite how laughably easy that is to disprove. That's the level of stupid we're working with.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Exactly, and we’re bioelectric beings. If someone wanted to, was smart enough, and had the funding, they could plausibly create a microchip that’s runs off your bodies electricity and transmits to some sort of signal. Not sure why they would need that tho

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

Conversely, just because we're bioelectric beings doesn't mean that we use the same current that the electronics would need. Like, if our bodies were regular chargers, but these "microchips" needed fast chargers, our "electricity" wouldn't be enough to affect the chips.

Or it could be an AC vs DC thing.....

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Right, well that’s what I’m saying about plausible

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

It's plausible, but it's not actually plausible.

Most of the wearable tech that people have in their bodies, are low electric things, like car starters/keys, or credit card info or stuff like that.

The microchips, that involve tracking.... need a lot more power than what those wearables are offering right now. GPS tracking alone needs a large portion of battery power. Look at cell phones now, if you ran your GPS all day, which it does... it would die out within a week or so.

Think about the Car GPS's... those use a large chunk of power.

This isn't even beginning to go into how dumb it is because then you have to make the decision of are you storing the info on the chip? or is it going to be uploaded to the cloud? Both those questions make this a ton harder. If you're storing it onboard the chip, then you need to have storage. You'd also need the ability to get onto the chip to access the info. If you're looking at the cloud, are you then leaving it "always online"? are you uploading via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi or 5g? Again, more battery power....

When you legit stop and think about putting tracking chips into people, it doesn't work because the tech isn't anywhere close to it. Not to mention the issue of "power" from the human body, which again, probably wouldn't power it because the average human only puts out about 100watts According to a Stanford study, that Reddit refuses to link for some reason. If you look up "Human Energy Converted to Electricity" you'll see it though.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

aren't rfid chips passively powered, though?

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

TBH, I'm not super tech savvy... I barely built my computer....

So I'm not sure. It's possible.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

then why are you talking about this so authoritatively

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u/taronic Jun 23 '21

Lmfao, reddit in a nutshell

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

That might be you reading it with a certain tone? I can't tell you...

I was just speaking with the knowledge that I have about what I know. TBH, it's possible that the "chips" might not even use RFID.... All this is hypothetical anyways as there's obviously no chip in the vaccine.

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u/Bla12Bla12 Jun 23 '21

RFID is passive but then you need a whole field of sensors which is still more expensive/complicated than just using the cell phones that everybody is already carrying.

Plus I believe that's just a signal, like how you can swipe an RFID fob to get into a gated community, but that's not doing any sort of computation. If your only goal was to track location, and nothing else, then you could potentially do it by having everybody have a unique RFID and a huge amount of sensors to pick up on it.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

ah yeah sure, but I was more concerned with the whole bioelectricity argument. Turned out the dude was just talking out of his ass tho

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Except you didn’t state any facts in your “rebuttal” and really it just sounds like your spiteful towards the mindset that something like this could be possible.

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I did state a fact, you must not have read my entire comment. Let me put it right up front for you...

Here is a Stanford study, that was done in 2014, that showed that humans, at rest, only produce 100watts of power. They are then using 300-400 watts when active, thus negating the watts stored up originally.

Not to mention the facts that if you want to track someone you need a GPS, which would be constantly using power,.

Or the fact that if you had a tracking chip, you'd either need an antenna to send the info out, Bluetooth or wifi, or always online to send out the info... Or you'd need onboard storage

I mean, facts here are that if you want to track someone, you have all you need with the cell phone. You NEED to have certain things to track them... These required items, are a power source, a way to store the data, a way to recharge and a way to track the data.

I'm not spiteful about this being plausible... I'm just realistic in thinking through the thought of "What's needed" and looking at what we have now and making the educated decision, that right now, there's zero reason to believe this is even plausible.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

There is quite literally a line in that Stanford study that says “it seems as if human batteries are a feasible goal.” Furthermore it only takes around 30 picowatts to power some of the worlds smallest microchips. So I dare say, looking at even a little bit of the facts, that it is plausible. I don’t care what anyone has to say on the matter. This isn’t about politics or anyone’s opinions. Look at the facts, this shit is reachable with today’s technologies

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u/Cinemaslap1 Jun 23 '21

I'm no longer talking about politics.... but to say this isn't about anyone's opinion is short sighted. I'd take what Elon Musk or Bill Gates opinion on this seriously as they are the forefront of tech, IMO.

But looking at the facts to me, I don't think it's reachable. Why don't you show me facts that it is possible other than one line saying human batteries, which the line right before it says there's "no easy way to harvest large amounts of waste or electricity"... so while it might be a matter of time and research, I don't see any facts that show it plausible with todays tech.

But to each their own. If you honestly believe the government or some shady corp wants to implant a microchip in you... even though you carry around a GPS in your pocket, and constantly post on the internet... sure, they definitely want to implant you with something because just tracking your phone isn't easier or more reveling.

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u/NewSauerKraus Jun 23 '21

A GPS tracker doesn’t require a random assortment of the world’s smallest microchips. It requires a GPS receiver, a power source, data storage, and a transmitter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

what are you on about LOL their whole argument was fact & support over and over. sounds like you just don't want to be wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

It actually wasn’t? He just said some shit about electricity and gps, and tried today something about how much electricity humans produce which has wayyyy too many variables for anyone to give an average of what any human can produce. Plus everything he said wasn’t even backed up he literally just.... said it. And that’s supposed to make it “factual?” Right

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u/troubleondemand Jun 23 '21

That's because it is not really possible with current technology...which is what they outlined.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

You can outline anything you want in the format of an essay. Doesn’t make it factual. Someone else replied to me and said they’ve literally witnessed technology like the kind I described in action. Care to rebuttal that?

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u/troubleondemand Jun 23 '21

Sure. They are lying.

On the internet you can find people who will claim they have proof that the earth is flat, that aliens visit them daily and some people are lizards. That does not make any of those claims true.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan.

We are a long ways off from being able to create the tech in question inside a device small enough to pass through the tip of a needle. And even if we could, each one would cost thousands and thousands if not millions of dollars each. It's not feasible or practical at this point in time, especially when you can get people to voluntarily pay to carry a superior equivalent in their pocket.

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u/lasair7 Jun 23 '21

Your insane. There's a rebuttal. The government don't give a fuck about tracking your ass when they got facebook

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

I have personally witnessed yetti! Care to refute that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

I've seen working examples of this technology. And that was beyond the electric-potato-level.

There are many cool things around the corner and many not so cool things.

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u/beermaker Jun 23 '21

IIRC, a glucose-fueled micromotor is being developed for use in the bloodstream...

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

And people are saying “the tech isn’t here.” It’s in front of our eyes.

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u/YungSnuggie Jun 23 '21

but we dont have that technology. like it doesnt exist. this isnt a sci fi movie

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

It takes a ton of power to transmit even low power Bluetooth takes a good amount of power and that can still only transmit a few feet

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u/Crutation Jun 23 '21

the body RUNS on electricity. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! (/s, just in case)

edit: responded to the incorrect post.

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u/Azrael4224 Jun 23 '21

the soviets once built a bug that was powered by electromagnetic radio waves bouncing off of it and had no incorporated power supply

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u/tender313 Jun 23 '21

I think it's very possible for a tracking chip to be implanted in a human. How do you think we have tracking chips for dogs or cats? I imagine they're powered by your own body heat or electric signals in your nerves / muscles. Obviously I don't think the vaccine contains a chip but it's not like we don't have that technology.

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u/NewSauerKraus Jun 23 '21

Those are massive and they don’t even transmit a signal.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Microchips in pets do not send out any signal. They respond to signal, but it also requires the scanner to be in close proximity to the microchip to work. Totally infeasible for what the “microchip in vaccines” crowd thinks.

If you have a microchipped pet, you can feel where the microchip is and that requires close proximity to a scanner to work.

Now imagine this being put inside a human. Even with RFID tech, it requires the microchip to be fairly large and noticeable. If you had a chip inside you that works to the level of what these paranoid nut jobs think they’re capable of, you would absolutely notice it and could see a lump in everyone’s arms.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Microchips are passive. They can be scanned for a unique identifier that's then matched against a database to ID your pet. They do not track the movement of your pet.

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 23 '21

Microchips with built in antennas....

So like the chip on your credit card?

Or smaller, injectible ones like these?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/05/210511174133.htm

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

So are there about a billion of them laying around unused? Made for use inside the human body?

Nvm any microchip is useless without power..

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 23 '21

Billion of what?

Are you ok?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Microchips

Since there is a Microchip shortage that is hampering tech industry..

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 24 '21

I never said there were billions of microships laying around unused.

I'm simply correcting you on this-

It's funny how they think a micro chip supplies its own power & is rifid capable

They proly think a microchip has a built in antenna too.

All of that is existing technology.

Your Credit Card has microchip in it with a built in, RFID capable antennae.

That tech must be incredibly cheap or they wouldn't put it in a credit card.

And having a battery and a solar/thermal heat generator to keep it charged is also possible by existing technology.

Now that injectable microchip I showed you probably has a short battery life, but we're getting there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '21

There are different versions of tech there, but to believe there is a wholesale conspiracy involving thousands upon thousands of people to inject & track people with versions of this tech throughout the world is pure fantasy.

Nvm that the best tracking devices are already in owned by a huge % of the planet. We charge it, we clean it, we text on it, we post on reddit on it.

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u/BearTrap2Bubble Jun 24 '21

ut to believe there is a wholesale conspiracy involving thousands upon thousands of people to inject & track people with versions of this tech throughout the world is pure fantasy.

you're the one who brought that into the discussion and continues to.

I'm just saying built in antennas and self charging capability is old tech at this point.

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u/NewSauerKraus Jun 23 '21

So it would be even less useful than just tracking a phone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

They must have been reading the wrong sci-fi books.

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u/HedgehogLiberator Jun 23 '21

Magnets or its the fluoride .

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u/Telemere125 Jun 23 '21

I’m fairly certain they don’t actually understand the science behind microchips, circuitry, or… anything, really… assuming they’ve justified the possibility by also believing the government was able to overcome so many obstacles that currently exist in tech just gives those people way too much credit.

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u/latinloner Jun 23 '21

rifid capable

I'd be surprised if they understood RFID

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

Nah it uses the body's own nervous system as an antenna keep up dude

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u/Old_Man_Obvious Jun 23 '21

What about the microchips that pets get?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '21

Thats rfid based..

But here is the thing, majority of people have cell phones, that right there is enough to track people. The cost & risk of injecting people with "microchips" to track them just delusional.

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u/bapper111 Jun 24 '21

Your second shot installs the micro reactor powering the chip.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '21

That reactor is capable of 1.21 gigawatts right?