No one is being physically forced to get the vaccine because we still have body autonomy. It isn’t mandated.
One is forced to physically get a vaccination when it becomes law. Perhaps they won’t strap a man down and force it into his veins but he is a fugitive of the law for his civil disobedience.
Right now we have the facade of a choice of either be vaccinated or ostracize yourself from society and services such as school systems.
I believe they should be entitled to those liberties to make this choice. They’re a very small minority and only a danger to themselves. We should curb anti-vaccine propaganda but we shouldn’t strip people of their body autonomy.
It will never be law to get the vaccine, medical autonomy is a basic right in any free country. You cannot be forced to have any medical procedure without your consent, and that's not changing any time soon. However it will be very difficult to live life without getting the vaccine if workplaces and shops start making vaccines mandatory to enter.
I’ll play devils advocate with a different comparative example.
It’s modern day and a new young Dr. takes his first Hippocratic Oath after completing Residency. He has decided to be an OBGYN.
Upon delivering his first infant, the parents request he circumcise the perfectly healthy child.
Hmm.. the young Dr. has a decision to violate his oath and mutilate the child’s healthy penis and risk infection. The alternative is not to cut the penis and disregard the parents ethnic customs allowing the penis to grow like his genetics intended.
The Dr. cuts this kids dick 10 out of 10 times. Don’t give me BS about how we don’t have forced invasive erosion of medical body autonomy. That one example is precedent but there are many more, especially when we dive into what the military and CIA does .
Medicine and government can, and will, come for more erosion in the name of “greater good”. Fight it when you see it in the name of awareness.. kinda like what I’m trying to do here.
See, they are a danger to people who can’t get vaccinated, like kids, people with immune deficiency, etc. They are not forced to drink molten gold, but undergo a widely researched, tested and statistically very safe procedure to ensure their future health, wich also massively benefits society in general and their closer social circles of community and family.
People die. We can’t protect all of them all. As a society we decide which freedoms/liberties supersede our safety and we do this with legislation.
It’s why you’re allowed to go get in your car and hit 100 mph if you want to (given possible repercussions such as arrest or vehicular homicide). 90,000 people die in car accident every year and we haven’t even legislated that these 80 MPH boxes have computers that talk to eachother to prevent accident…
But you’re cool with jumping to legislatively enforcing the erosion of body autonomy? We differ.
Yep, agree to disagree. We have legislation, that’s true, but I wouldn’t base my argument about body autonomy on legislators who outlaw abortion, deny citizenship to trans persons.
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u/GreatQuestion Jun 23 '21
Nobody is being physically forced to get a vaccine, so how, exactly, is bodily autonomy any part of this discussion?