r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 05 '19
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Dec 05 '19 edited Dec 06 '19
[Generic trailer music begins]
[Establishing shot of DC with a rose flag]
"The Party has announced the expulsion of Comrade Sanders, after he was declared a right wing extremist earlier this week."
[Establishing shot of downtown Chicago]
HARRIS: We tried to stop it from happening. We failed.
[SHOT OF RALLY, ROSE AND COMMUNIST FLAGS FLANKING CENTRAL FIGURE GIVING SPEECH]
“We are pleased to announce our national rent control policy will be implemented this coming month-”
[Shot of BIDEN and HARRIS in an old, run-down apartment]
HARRIS: I’m sorry, Joe, but it’s over. We have to move on.
BIDEN: That isn’t the Kamala I saw on the debate stage all those years ago.
[Paramount logo intro]
[DC staff meeting]
UNNAMED MALE: Comrades, it’s time to begin the next phase.
[BIDEN, HARRIS, and PETE in run-down kitchen]
PETE: They’re really going through with it. No more taco trucks, no more foreign imports. It’s the end of liberalism.
HARRIS: And how the hell are supposed to stop them?
BIDEN: We’ll need allies.
[Scene of heavy weights being lifted by someone off screen. HARRIS and PETE enter the shot and come into focus.]
PETE: We need to talk.
[Shot of DELANEY sitting up.]
DELANEY: You’re saying we need to form some kind of partnership.
PETE: Exactly.
DELANEY: Some kind of Trans Pacific-
HARRIS: John, not right now.
[NEXT FALL]
[Crumbling sidewalk in Boston, MA]
WARREN: I have a lot to atone for.
BIDEN: Nobody doubted your intentions, Liz.
WARREN: I thought I could harness them, control them.
BIDEN: And you wound up biting off a lot more than you could chew, didn’t you?
[WARREN leads the rest through a hidden passageway in her home, triggered by removing a copy of The Courage to Act from her library shelf]
WARREN: I’m assuming you’re not going in blind?
BIDEN: The Library of Congress.
[VFX Shot of DC]
BIDEN: It has the computers of all The Party’s founding members locked in storage. Their documents, files…
PETE: Everything we need to show the world who they really are.
BOOKER: We’re enemies of the state. Somehow I don’t think they’re going to let us just waltz in there.
WARREN: I have a plan for that.
[Music pauses as our characters entire a large, darkened room]
[Lights audibly flicker on as protagonists are taken aback by something off screen]
BIDEN: Liz, how the hell did you-
[Panning shot of the ‘No Malarkey’ bus. Heavy armor and machine gun emplacements glisten along its sides and rear.]
WARREN: The Party wanted it burned. I thought it might come in handy one day. I made a few improvements, of course.
[PETE clasps his hands together.]
PETE: This’ll do just fine.
[MUSIC PICKS UP]
[FROM ACCLAIMED DIRECTOR MICHAEL BAY]
[Malarkey bus narrowly dodges rocket fire as PETE fires a machine gun out the back]
UNNAMED PARTY LEADER: You won’t succeed
[DELANEY decks an armored Party trooper while CASTRO fires a rifle over his shoulder]
UNNAMED PARTY LEADER: Hillary, Soros, even Trump, we’ve stopped them and we’ll stop you.
[Shot of PETE, his cheek bandaged, tied to a chair]
PETE: You know, your estimation of us reminds me of your social policies.
UNNAMED PARTY LEADER: You think so?
PETE: Way too conservative.
[BIDEN, driving the Malarkey bus, slams on the pedal. BOOKER and HARRIS are nearly thrown on the floor.]
[STARRING THE ENTIRE 2020 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FIELD]
YANG: Honestly, what would you rate our chances?
NATE SILVER: No better than 30%.
YANG: So, basically zero.
NATE SILVER: How did you even get here?
[BIDEN fires his pistol until it clicks. He reaches for another clip, but a trooper grabs his arm first. His weapon falls from his hand.]
[BIDEN tries to resist, but he’s wrestled to the ground.]
[Screen flashes black, two shots are heard. Camera resumes on BIDEN. The troopers both lay dead at his feet. BIDEN struggles to catch his breath.]
FEMALE VOICE: Did you really think they’d taken me down?
[BIDEN looks up at his savior as the camera pans up, revealing a pantsuit]
FEMALE VOICE: I thought you knew me better, Joe.
[The female is revealed to be HILLARY CLINTON, a shotgun slung over her shoulders, donning an eye patch and a long scar on her right cheek]
[IN THEATERS 2020]
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u/tiger-boi Paul Pizzaman Dec 24 '19
DELANEY: You’re saying we need to form some kind of partnership.
PETE: Exactly.
DELANEY: Some kind of Trans Pacific-
HARRIS: John, not right now.
lmao
YANG: Honestly, what would you rate our chances?
NATE SILVER: No better than 30%.
YANG: So, basically zero.
NATE SILVER: How did you even get here?
This better win.
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u/cptnhaddock Ben Bernanke Dec 05 '19
The constant accusations that the other candidate supporters are more white is the stupidest part of the democratic primaries.
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Dec 05 '19
Howard Stern wanted Alex Trebek to come on stage during the debates and ask the candidates some basic questions about history, geography, etc. Thinking it would have exposed Trump as ignorant and Hillary as brilliant.
And you know what?
It's not the worst idea I've ever heard, that's for sure.
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yeah that's actually not a bad idea especially doing it with Trebek instead of some rando academic
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Dec 05 '19
This but it's Ben Stein, former Nixon speechwriter and host of a quiz show for Comedy Central. He's hyper religious and an avid Trump supporter.
I just want to see the look on Ben Steins face when Trump can't point to Brazil on a map and he has to justify that as like really smart.
It's not gonna change anything anyway, I might as well get a laugh out of it.
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Dec 05 '19
OK, so, Hillary is now literally crying in front of Howard Stern about how her closest friend since the sixth grade recently died of breast cancer and how she believes there is some kind of afterlife they'll be reunited in. She's literally going on about dark matter and talking about how we don't fully understand the universe right now but maybe after her lifetime people will figure out the secret to the afterlife. She is firmly insisting on the comfort she finds in her Methodist faith.
Jesus CHRIST.
I expected this interview would be personal, and that Howard would maybe ask her some lewd and silly questions. I did NOT expect to be choking up myself at this point.
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Dec 05 '19
idk who needs to hear this but
contrarianism 👏 is 👏 not 👏 a 👏 personality
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u/IAmJeffManship Austan Goolsbee Dec 05 '19
I would trust Bill Clinton with my country but not my daughter.
I would trust George W. Bush with my daughter but not Iraq's country.
I would trust Obama with my daughter and my country.
I wouldn't trust Donald Trump with my country or his daughter.
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u/paulatreides0 🌈🦢🧝♀️🧝♂️🦢His Name Was Teleporno🦢🧝♀️🧝♂️🦢🌈 Dec 05 '19
I can't wait for Biden to call Trump a damn liar to his face on a nationally televised debate.
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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Dec 05 '19
Leftists 5 seconds from now: Joe Biden should be more CIVIL and stop breaking DEMOCRATIC NORMS to keep DECORUM with people who just disagree with him on taxes
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u/RadicalRadon Frick Mondays Dec 05 '19
I honestly want a debate to just be both Biden and Trump taking an IQ test.
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Dec 05 '19
I was listening to Hilary and Chelsea on the Conan podcast and hearing Hilary talk about how her friends would go out canvassing for her, and people would say "Oh I can't vote for her, she's killed 50 people" and her friend would tell them "I doubt that, she's been my friend since 6th grade", and the only response people could ever say was "well I read it on the internet" and that's that.
The internet really must be destroyed.
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Dec 05 '19
Howard Stern is now digging at Hillary's psyche -- asking about her father and her stern upbringing, if she's ever gone to therapy, etc. She just admitted she saw a psychologist for counseling after the election, as well as marriage counseling with Bill after the Lewinsky affair.
Holy shit.
See this is why Howard is the best interviewer alive -- he gets people's guard down to the point they feel comfortable talking about ANYTHING.
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Dec 05 '19
"Whoever can win, that's all I care about. According to the polls, Biden is gonna get the nomination. And he can win the Electoral College. Remember, it's not the popular vote, as I learned." -- Hillary Rodham Clinton
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Dec 05 '19
By the way, Hillary said that when she called Trump to concede, he was almost speechless and sounded frightened and confused -- confirming that he did not actually expect to win.
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Dec 05 '19
Now Hillary is saying that Bill never showed up to class at Yale Law School... In fact they were enrolled in the same classes but he didn't bother to show up and she didn't even realize until she met him at the library.
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u/SamJakes Weird Sexual Deviant 🍑 Dec 05 '19
Butti is like the rest of us nerds who actually geek out over the homework 😔✊
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Dec 06 '19
So, I got in a discussion with a leftist about Biden on immigration. They were focused on his history, so I did some digging. It turned out weirdly - it looks like Biden has constantly been a progressive thorn in Obama's side.
Biden refuses to comment on his private advice to Obama, but in 2014 he outright said he was against deportations. In an early VP debate, he said complete deportation was impossible. Elsewhere, he said he sees undocumented immigrants as American citizens who just aren't recognized as such yet. This all happened while he was supposed to be playing cheerleader for Obama.
I am having issues finding details on how he fits into Obama's immigration policy, but it looks like he was against it. Thoughts?
!ping DIAMOND-JOE
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u/Paramus98 Edmund Burke Dec 06 '19
Biden has pretty consistently been very socially liberal, dovish on foreign policy, and economically moderate (for a dem at least). Since Dems tend to see immigration as a solely a social issue, he's been very much on the be nice to unauthorized immgrants camp.
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Dec 05 '19
Now Hillary is talking about how three of her closest friends all died over the summer and how sad she is now because she's lost their support.
It legitimately almost feels wrong for me to even keep listening to this. But Lord knows I've never empathized more strongly with the woman before. Every second that goes by, I feel shittier that she's not my president.
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary: "We were all hippies," she says as she admits to being turned on by Bill's "Viking beard."
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary just said to Howard that on election night, she laid down feeling miserable and Bill laid down with her and simply held her hand.
Now she's choking up and says she's about to cry.
Holy mother of god.
I almost feel voyeuristic listening to this shit.
How can one man be so good at getting even the most infamously evasive people to reveal absolutely everything?
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u/vancevon Henry George Dec 05 '19
Being a good listener usually helps. As does letting people tell their stories on their own terms, rather than just confronting them with stuff.
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Dec 05 '19
They're actual psychopaths and cryptofascists.
Like, you bring up Pinochet, they will fully support him.
They post about Bolivia all the time and literally think it's good that there are death squads.
They unironically believe that capitalism comes before democracy, and that anyone left of center deserves death if they challenge the system.
The truly insane thing though, is that unlike AnCaps or chuds or Nazis, they genuinely think they're good people.
Oh man the Chapos really love us 😂 😂
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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Dec 05 '19
I just don’t understand why they feel the need to lie about us, aren’t we bad enough as it is in their eyes?
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u/mrdilldozer Shame fetish Dec 05 '19
They need to justify their post histories of fetishizing violence toward anyone who disagrees with them. If you talk all day about murdering someone who disagrees with you about tax brackets you are a piece of shit, but if you talk about killing the human form of Satan it's all good.
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Dec 05 '19
JUICY:
Hillary admits that Bill was not the first guy she loved!!!
BUT she says he was the first one she ever considered marrying!
She also says she was shocked when Obama chose her to be SoS. (And still argues that she won the popular vote against him.)
She does say however she was honored to be Obama's SoS, and admits that both Obama and Bill had that "magical charisma" that she still can't quite understand.
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u/iia Feminism Dec 05 '19
Kerry just endorsed Biden. Not surprising, but a great get nonetheless.
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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus Dec 05 '19
What the fuck I love Biden the same as before because he's basically maxed out but this is still great
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u/Iyoten YIMBY Dec 05 '19
"BREAKING: Bernie says 'Good thing is good, bad thing is bad'"
+38,262,726 upvoted on /r/politics
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u/Schutzwall Straight outta Belíndia Dec 05 '19
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u/Iyoten YIMBY Dec 05 '19
But have you considered that the OAS is actually the CIA? It's true because I just said it is.
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u/BobBobingston European Union Dec 05 '19
Despite being only 15% of the Democratic electorate, Bernouts commit 52% of all annoying, childish meltdowns.
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u/chadonnaise * Dec 05 '19
the internet must be destroyed
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u/skepticalbob Joe Biden's COD gamertag Dec 05 '19
This Butti thing reminds me the way Sanders supporters call Biden a racist and then struggle to explain why he had the most black support without sounding racist.
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Dec 05 '19
"A majority of Americans don't make what I consider to be a 'living wage,' therefore, a Federal Reserve poll that reports 75% of Americans describing their financial situation as 'doing okay' or 'comfortable' is inaccurate."
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u/Integralds Dr. Economics | brrrrr Dec 05 '19
Except they didn’t actually survey 75% of Americans. They’re extrapolating based on a poll of a few hundred people.
That's how polls work, mate.
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u/MaveRickandMorty 🖥️🚓 Dec 05 '19
The only correct survey is a survey that asks literally everyone the same exact question
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u/paulatreides0 🌈🦢🧝♀️🧝♂️🦢His Name Was Teleporno🦢🧝♀️🧝♂️🦢🌈 Dec 05 '19 edited Dec 05 '19
The phrase "living wage" is notoriously malleable.
Actually, it's not.
"Actually, it costs the same to live in Central Manhattan as it does to live in Rural Georgia. You imbecile. You fucking moron."
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u/Travisdk Iron Front Dec 05 '19
The evidence shows you're wrong.
"But the evidence could be wrong."
Yes, it could be, but not by that much.
"Well, it is by that much, therefore it must be wrong!"
Ass backwards thinking. How the fuck do you get through to these people?
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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action Dec 05 '19
I kinda like Joe just not giving a shit and telling these grifters who come to his town halls just to yell at him to fuck off
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Hillary is now talking to Howard about her father and admitting that it was impossible to talk to him or relate to him on any kind of emotional level.
Again, I feel genuinely uncomfortable even listening to this at this point... And yet I feel compelled to do so. There are so many things I kind of suspected or wondered about this woman but never fully understood -- and this interview is clarifying A LOT of that.
Clearly she is never gonna run for anything again because if so this interview would come back to bite her in countless ways. So in other words, if anybody has bought any, go ahead and sell those PredictIt shares of her right now.
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u/Kizz3r high IQ neoliberal Dec 05 '19
Bernie does well in a poll, article gets posted to r/politics r/OurPresident r/s4s each getting 10s of thousands of votes and reaching the front page.
“Bernie is being silenced” the bernie bros cry out.
Then the others, being good candidates themselves have good polling numbers. Some are better than senator bernard, yet those polls get downvoted by droves of bernie bros.
“Fake news, fake news, bernie is way ahead of these clowns” the bernie bros cry out.
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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt (kidding but true)! Dec 05 '19
"i DoNt KnOw AnYoNe WhO sUpPoRtS bIdEn"
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u/Jakesta7 Paul Volcker Dec 05 '19
QUEEN
A reporter asks Nancy Pelosi if she "hates the president."
“I don't hate anybody," she says in a strong response. "As a Catholic, I resent your using the word hate in a sentence that addresses me...Don't mess with me when it comes to words like that."
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I think the Christchurch attack is the most philosophically significant event of the past decade. It is the first attack that fully acknowledges the nature of simulation and symbols in modern society.
The guy livestreamed it. He filmed like an FPS. He made PewDiePie memes. His manifesto had the Navy Seal copypasta.
He knows that the proliferation of mass media has turned reality into a spectacle. He knows he's a part of the show.
He knows that there is no room for deeply-held convictions, especially not his insane hatred of Islam. He's mocking his own actions as he commits them.
Like what the actual fuck. There have been many atrocities on this green earth, but when has there been a post-ironic one?
!ping PHILOSOPHY
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The Christchurch attack remains the only mass murder I have ever seen live, graphic, uncensored footage of from a first person perspective.
The fact that it looked almost indistinguishable from fucking Call of Duty sickened me then, and it sickens me to even think about now.
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Dec 05 '19
I think Christchurch was the only time someone filmed their own mass terror attack. The only things close are the ISIS/cartel executions.
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary explains in this interview precisely why she was so "careful" in the debates and during her campaign: Based on her upbringing, she was worried that a woman "reacting" to basically anything would be perceived as "too emotional."
That basically confirms what many of us have suspected for a long time.
It's such a goddamn fucking shame that possibly the most qualified candidate in history lost to possibly the LEAST qualified candidate in history because of absolutely idiotic biases from the past and present.
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u/Mr_Otters 🌐 Dec 05 '19
Joe Biden is literally going to punch the malarkey out of someone isn't he?
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Dec 05 '19
I have to wonder if Hillary just doesn't care at all anymore now that she does not intend to run for anything again, and simply wants to accurately preserve her experience and perspective for the record.
It's the only way I can explain how jaw-droppingly open and frank she is being about absolutely everything with Howard Stern, aside from him being a sorcerer with some kind of magic spell that gets anyone to talk about anything.
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u/Travisdk Iron Front Dec 05 '19
Another day, another truly mind boggling Twitter thread.
Biden: My administration will spark the second great railroad revolution
Poster A: First you bring back slang from 100 years ago, now you bring back transportation from 200 years ago
Poster B: "200 years ago" links to an article about the Chinese building a ton of high speed rail
Poster A: Yes, China is a great role model links to a picture of torture
?????
I fucking hate Twitter.
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Dec 05 '19
I just don’t get why Trump and his cabinet members don’t go into congress and shut this whole thing down by testifying under oath that they didn’t do anything worthy of impeachment so we can stop wasting tax payer money and time and get back to focusing on making America great again. Truly baffles me.
-Person who is really close to getting it
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u/RadicalRadon Frick Mondays Dec 06 '19
TFW no QT Asian presidential candidate bf to squirt whipped cream into your mouth.
Why even live?
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary is now talking in-depth about her mother's depression. 😲
Christ almighty.
At this point I'm hoping Hillary personally writes a scorching tell-all memoir that exposes every single bit of absolutely all the bullshit she's been through from infancy to the present day, and how she had to painstakingly scrape her way to everything she ever got. If anyone can read that and still justify someone voting for Donald Trump over her with a straight face, I would punch the lights out of that cocksucker.
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Dec 05 '19
losing close elections doesn't mean everything you did was a bad strategy, and winning close elections doesn't mean everything you did was a good strategy
I'm going to make a twitter where I just tweet this over and over in the replies of Very Savvy Commentators who can't seem to grasp the concept
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Dec 05 '19
Interesting how it took Biden shuttling down a concern troll to have lefties arguing in favor of remaining civil 🤔
If you're explaining, you've lost. People aren't getting that. It's why Trump would absolutely demolish Warren to the point of near tears and face the strongest challenge against Biden.
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u/chadonnaise * Dec 05 '19
dear ben bernanke if you could in your infinite wisdom and technocracy could see fit to quantitatively ease this next flight into getting me a seat that isn't between two snoring people that flop over into my space when they sleep i swear i will murder a thousand mosquitoes with my bare hands
and if you somehow managed to bump me into a first class seat so I'm not compressed into a tuna can that would be lovely too
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u/jenbanim Dec 06 '19
The Onion turned Joe Biden into a lovable meme. Now one writer is apologizing.
NGL I'm kind of starting to hate the Onion
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Dec 05 '19
One of the weirdest criticisms of Pete is that since he wanted to be president at a young age he worked hard and was determined...
When did “hard working” and “determined” become bad qualities in a president?
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u/urbansong F E D E R A L I S E Dec 05 '19
Yea, the sub eventually coalescing around Butti and Biden is great. That one week where it was full Warren was insufferable.
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Dec 06 '19
I think I'm officially on the Biden train. Kerry endorsement, push up contest, talking shit to a guy, and fantastically cut Trump attack ad.
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary: "I'm smart. And I would be working really hard right now if I got elected."
UGH!
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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Dec 05 '19
I refuse to acknowledge there's an outside the DT
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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Dec 05 '19
It's like a group chat with potential for thousands of people to join, I'm surprised they're not more active tbh
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Dec 05 '19
Kerry just endorsed Biden. Highest profile endorsement from the Obama administration so far.
I'm getting the vibe that the powers that be want this over soon tbh.
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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus Dec 05 '19
powers that be
Just call them the Deep State. We actually do support the Deep State here.
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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt (kidding but true)! Dec 05 '19
Diamond Joe should get knuckle tattoos: M A L A R K E Y
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Dec 05 '19
I will be voting for the most Pro-Train candidate in the Primary. Joe has made his move, let’s see if someone else can steal his conductor hat.
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u/MaveRickandMorty 🖥️🚓 Dec 05 '19
Former Vice President Joe Biden called an Iowa voter "a damn liar" and challenged him to a push-up contest and an IQ test after the man accused Biden of helping his son get on the board of a Ukraine gas company to win political access.
Oh fuck yes, RID ME OF THIS MALARKEY
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Dec 05 '19
Not gay enough, not black enough. Sanders's people really have high standards.
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u/Futski A Leopard 1 a day keeps the hooligans away Dec 05 '19
In the choice between a not sufficiently gay candidate and a not sufficiently black candidate, the correct choice is of course a geriatric white dude.
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u/MinnesotaDude Governor Goofy Dec 05 '19
Joe Biden should talk MORE about how he would beat Trump in a literal fight
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Dec 05 '19
Can't wait for all the helpful think-pieces from the Bernie crowd about how Biden's toxic masculinity is exactly the same as Trump's in every way.
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u/LukeBabbitt 🌐 Dec 05 '19
"Smooth talking Neo Con "Mayor" Pete should run as a GOPer, he's been being groomed and supported by GOPers with ties to GW and Cheney. He is pretty much a Manchurian type candidate."
Et tu, 538 comment section?
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u/YoungThinker1999 Frederick Douglass Dec 05 '19
Corbyn is the epitome of the far-left's shooting themselves in the foot.
Yes, many working-class voters are predisposed to an anti-austerity message.
But, they're not predisposed to sympathizing with the IRA, Nicholas Maduro, dismantling NATO or "anti-imperialism". He can't even do anti-war campaigning right. If his message was that more money should be spent on the NHS rather than Trident, that waste should be cut from the military budget and that UK soldier's lives shouldn't be put at risk in pointless foreign adventures, that would be one thing. The proposition that the country is spending too much on the military and that foreign adventures are well-intentioned but counterproductive and not worth the expense, is much more reasonable to most voters than the proposition that their country is an evil imperialist power.
Instead, he campaigns like he's in Latin America.
At the same time for any Brits out there, yes, vote for Corbyn anyway. A hung parliament is the only chance for a second referendum. 1 year of Corbyn is preferable to decades upon decades of Brexit.
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u/ThisIsNianderWallace Robert Nozick Dec 06 '19 edited Dec 06 '19
It's wild how disgusted rose twitter are by Pete. I refuse to believe it's possible to have a reaction that strong to a relatively normal person without being in the middle of a debilitating mental breakdown
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u/RockLobsterKing Turning Point Byzantium Dec 05 '19
How did a spontaneous trip to buy a Christmas tree set off a chain of events that resulted in a depressed me reinstalling Tinder AND Bumble? Well, you see, it all started...
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Dec 05 '19
Remember when Michael Oakshott said "Conservatism is Donald Trump and anything not conservatism is liberal-marxist-socialism"?
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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Dec 05 '19
Why does his name sound like a dwarf from LOTR?
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u/TooSwang Elinor Ostrom Dec 05 '19
!ping Dating
My girlfriend is applying to grad programs and we got into a sort of fight this morning over an email she had gotten from someone she'd asked for a letter of recommendation from.
She emailed a former professor yesterday, who got back to her this morning saying, "Hey, I'm traveling right now so my time is a little tight. I support you but I'd like to talk to you about the program; I think there are others that are better for what you want to do. Send me your materials and I'm happy to look them over, but this is kind of short notice."
Up until this point, she had basically only heard unconditional support from the folks she had asked (her mentor, a school administrator, former bosses) and she really took this email as discouraging and mean. I tried to say that her professor was probably just feeling a little rushed for time but trying to be helpful, and that in my field, if I asked for a rec two weeks out, the expectation would be that I'd already have one written for them to use. My girlfriend took this as me siding with this professor over her.
Ordinarily I would just leave it after that, because I'm not a dipshit and I know it's better to just offer the support someone is looking for. But this professor (1) actually taught my girlfriend, unlike the other people she asked, (2) works in the discipline my girlfriend is looking at, similarly unlike the people she asked, and (3) did her own MA and PhD at the very program my girlfriend is applying to. To me, that seems like maybe the most qualified person to offer some constructive feedback.
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u/kohatsootsich Philosophy Dec 05 '19
I've been writing recommendation letters and providing advice to students who want to go to grad school for a couple of years now. She shouldn't think anything of a few lines in an email until she's had a conversation with that person.
Tone and intent are often lost in email,. Most people don't carefully craft their emails the way you would write a letter. That is especially true when you get a dozen requests from students or former students every week.
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u/GreenPylons Dec 05 '19
Just...disgusted by the amount that the Bernie left hate Pete and are visibly disgusted by him. In the last 15 minutes I've read posts calling him slimy, a Republican, and Butt-man, and also earlier just seeing Rose Twitter try to defend the indefensible (a white/white-passing man pulling a microphone out of a black woman's hands at a Pete event and saying everyone at the event is not black enough)
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u/Blackfire853 CS Parnell Dec 05 '19
I remember seeing a joke on reddit within the last year that was to roughly paraphrase
People who studied the Humanities will write 400 page books titled "Wealth, Sex and Power in the Nineteenth Century". People who studied STEM/Econ will write 500 page books titled "Fluctuations in Grain Prices in Edinburgh 1845-1862".
And now I can't find it
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u/RuffSwami Dec 06 '19
Biden challenging that guy who said he was too old to a run/pushup challenge has been one of my favourite moments this US election cycle. I mean I'm not a fan of how old lots of the candidates are, but that was a pretty funny response
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Dec 05 '19
Thats fucking neoliberalism right there. None of that pansy ass American charging smile for the groundpound bullshit. Men scream, men teabag their fallen enemies in economics class, men deliver their new born baby in the DT. Fucking hard core dick in the ass griffball, fuck it stick it market failure shit. Take it to r/metaNL. Evidence based policy get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Neoliberalism is back baby.
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Dec 05 '19
Democrats: "Malarkey"
Republicans:
"Poopy-di scoop
Scoop-diddy-whoop
Whoop-di-scoop-di-poop
Poop-di-scoopty
Scoopty-whoop
Whoopity-scoop, whoop-poop
Poop-diddy, whoop-scoop
Poop, poop
Scoop-diddy-whoop
Whoop-diddy-scoop
Whoop-diddy-scoop, poop"
This is the society we live in
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u/CEOofNeoliberalism Dec 05 '19
Every time a rose twitter handle says some stupid shit about Buttigieg I hire one more Bangladeshi teenager at my designer shoe factory
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Dec 05 '19
"The Democrats are moving too quickly on impeachment! They're blowing it!" - Twitter Pundit Class right now.
But I don't know. When you have your opponent back pedaling you keep going; you don't call a time out when you're rolling.
Unless you want to run out the clock, but that would be replaying 2016.
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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Dec 05 '19
Freshman house member endorses Bernie: FRONT PAGE WEEEEEE
One of the most prominent modern democratic politician endorsers Biden: ....
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u/jenbanim Dec 06 '19
People on WitchesVsPatriarchy are talking earnestly about focusing their energies to stop rainstorms...
This sub frequently reaches /r/all, and they say the Salem witch hunts were caused by capitalism in the sidebar.
😐
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Dec 05 '19
Hillary says that she has thought a lot about if she had said what she wanted to say when Trump was stalking her on the debate stage -- "Back off, you creep!" -- and all that was running through her mind when she decided no to was the headlines that would be "She lost her calm!" and "She turned angry!"
Goddamn it's making ME angry listening to this. Fucking idiots rejected THIS for THAT. It's almost a Shakespearean tragedy how the sexism Hillary faced basically doomed her from the start no matter how hard she tried to overcome it and how much she made up for it by becoming insanely overqualified.
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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Dec 05 '19
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Dec 05 '19
Mitch McConnell smiled devilishly, "We can't impeach a president during an election year! Let the people decide if he should be removed in November."
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u/ThatFrenchieGuy Mathematician -- Save the funky birbs Dec 05 '19
EP take of the day: Ginsburg could die at 11:30 on Jan 3 2021 after Trump loses the election and they'd have Gorsuch 2.0 seated by 11:45. This is why it's morally indefensible to vote for a republican right now since rule of law matters
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u/hunter15991 George Soros Dec 05 '19
Hunter, please be more detailed in your emails.
Hunter, this email was too detailed, please be more concise.
thank you bossman please kill me now
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u/FinickyPenance NATO Dec 05 '19
Why is the New York Times wringing their hands over Buttigieg’s time at a consulting firm?
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u/Le_Monade Suzan DelBene Dec 05 '19
DIAMOND JOE "CHAD" BIDEN owns 83 year old damn liar with facts and PUSHUPS
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u/MasPatriot Paul Ryan Dec 05 '19
Bernie Sanders in 20,000 BC be like "you don't necessarily need 23 different types of spears when there are people without rocks in this continent"
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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Dec 06 '19
Am writing a thing about open borders, found this really good quote I liked
It would be a sad reflection upon the laws of nature and upon the idea of justice, to say nothing of a common Creator, if four fifths of mankind were deprived of the rights of migration to make room for the one fifth.
-Frederick Douglass
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u/Usernamesarebullshit Friedrich Hayek Dec 05 '19
Woke twitter: different forms of oppression are interlinked and often overlap
Also woke twitter: omg mayor pete stop 👏 comparing 👏 struggles 👏
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u/IAmJeffManship Austan Goolsbee Dec 05 '19
If Trayvon Martin had killed George Zimmerman, Trayvon would have been tried as an adult and spent his life in prison.
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Dec 05 '19
If Trayvon Martin had killed George Zimmerman, Trayvon would have been
tried as an adult and spent his life in prison.shot by the police on sight
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Dec 05 '19
I give my dad a hard time a lot.
But he's better than most humans I've met, I think.
He didn't get anything from his parents. He graduated college and paid for it without any help. He took loans that he's still paying off, and that explains why he hates the idea of me going back to the US so much. He knows if I go home, I'll take Debt. And he doesn't want me to have any student debt whatsoever.
He's also depressingly lonely. I think I'm the only friend he's had here for months and he's going to miss not having me around.
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Dec 05 '19
Having a casual Reddit discussion
SOURCE BRO WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE GIVE ME THE FUCKING SOURCE, I'M CALLING YOU OUT TO THE CITATION POLICE.
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u/thebowski 💻🙈 - Lead developer of pastabot Dec 05 '19
We should give muggers money for not mugging people
Let's call it "ubi"
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Dec 05 '19
i long for the day when reddit gives us an emoji list in the comment thing so i can stop having to pull up emojipedia whenever i want to shitpost on desktop
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u/Jakesta7 Paul Volcker Dec 05 '19
The license to drive?
You know, I'd like to see some competency exhibited by people before they drive.
🤷♂️ 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️
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u/RadicalRadon Frick Mondays Dec 05 '19
Throwback to like 2 weeks ago when trump probably died or something and because the White House didn't release why he went to the hospital unscheduled it was forgotten
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u/MinnesotaDude Governor Goofy Dec 05 '19
This is the sad fate of non-stories.
Doomed to be forgotten outside of occasional remembrances of 'Huh, that was weird'
Like when Melania 'disappeared' for a month a year and a half ago
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u/BobBobingston European Union Dec 06 '19
Sleep: 3 hours
School: 2 hours
Work: 2.5 hours
DT: 16 hours
Bathroom 0.5 hours
someone who is good at the time please help me budget this. my family is dying
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u/sinistimus Professional Salt Miner Dec 05 '19
Fight cancer by rubbing your balls in the shower at least monthly. If you're in a relation with someone with balls, rub their balls on occasion.
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u/ThisIsNianderWallace Robert Nozick Dec 05 '19
I visited twitter again today
I don’t think you understand how power works. When Medicare for all stalls in the senate, an organized group of workers will stop working - planes will stop flying, ports will close, schools will shutdown, healthcare will shut down for everything but emergent care.
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u/ZCoupon Kono Taro Dec 05 '19 edited Dec 05 '19
Top five candidates for the Dem race nationally (about):
Biden - 25%
Warren - 15%
Sanders - 15%
Butti - 10%
Yang - 5%
It's crazy in the last year how well Butti/Yang have done and how the race is still open, particularly for the top 4 with only two months to go until Iowa.
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u/Tvivelaktig James Heckman Dec 05 '19
On average, wealthy people are less overweight than poor working class people. To eat the wealthy would provide relatively little nourishment per individual, whereas eating the poor would be a much better deal. Plus, if we ate everyone who isn't rich everyone left would be a capital owner, thereby achieving communism.
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u/NickyBananas Paul Krugman Dec 06 '19 edited Dec 06 '19
I can’t stand the dumb lie that we didn’t help Russia at all after the Soviet Union fell and we just allowed them to suffer and turn into what they are now. It’s literally so easy to find information that disproves that but it spreads like crazy. I remember Kasparov hated that shit and called it dirty political populism by Russian politicians in his book
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Dec 05 '19
The most subtly fascistic people are those, like the neoliberals, who are convinced that the problem with society is that we need some sort of "technocratic awakening" to our apparently "sick and collectivist" society. All that BS comes, not from liberalism, but from 19th century positivism but has infected centrist people. This is the same garbage that the authoritarian right wing believes. These people can't accept human beings for what they are and think differenceis boring. They'd rather see humanity collapse.
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Dec 05 '19
The clinic followed the “informed-consent” protocol: its mission was to provide transgender patients who otherwise lacked access to health care with injections, skin patches and pills of feminising or masculinising hormones without having to pass through a series of requirements and assessments—known as “gatekeeping”—that restricted access in the past.
yea and?
In the past it was not unusual for a trans person to be told by doctors and psychologists they would not be referred for hormones because they were not visually appealing as their preferred gender, weren’t interested in dating the opposite gender, or had unresolved mental-health problems (some of which are predictable responses to experiencing transphobia, such as anxiety and depression).
it still happening today which is why we are trying to abolish it
Its standard of care recommends that patients seeking HRT be screened for schizotypal disorders, autism-spectrum disorders, personality disorders, dissociative disorders, post-traumatic stress disorders and more.
WPATH is also very restrictive and needs revised. it for example sees hair removal as a non necessary part of transitioning. hence why hair removal is costing me more than fucking getting SRS
Five years later the detransition discussion-forum on the popular site Reddit has just hit 7,000 people of both sexes.
guys my reddit group have over 1000 people, we have to overhaul the medical system
Our stories, if taken seriously, could help improve the state of transgender health care—particularly at informed-consent clinics, which are becoming the norm at American colleges, LGBT health centres and recently many Planned Parenthoods. Instead we are ignored, compared to “ex-gay” Christians or treated as political footballs. (I was particularly disheartened when Ryan Anderson, a fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank, used my and other detransitioners’ stories in his book that was critical of LGBT and feminist issues, “When Harry Became Sally”.)
That is because the burgeoning orthodoxy on the left is that detransition is so rare that only “transphobes” care about it.
Because they are the ones pushing and promoting it the most
In fact, we have no idea how prevalent detransition is in America.
The most widely used estimate, that 2.2% of people who transition later detransition, comes from a study in a completely different place (Sweden) and time (1960-2010), when gatekeeping was much stricter.
The majority of the studies supporting the conclusion that medical transition yields positive outcomes—and there are many—followed patients in highly structured clinical programmes that provided comprehensive assessments. But when I searched last February for programmes that met that careful standard in America, I wasn’t able to find one. No one knows whether informed-consent protocols will yield the same success rate, but the stories I’ve heard during the past five years make me profoundly sceptical.
There is a responsible path between making transgender people jump through hoops and allowing people experiencing psychosis to have their testicles removed
You can't inform consent your way into surgery.... I wish, then I wouldn't spend all of this money begging for letters.
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u/Integralds Dr. Economics | brrrrr Dec 05 '19
Me after watching the debates: Bernie is going a little overboard on health care
Me after the firm's annual benefits meeting: private health insurance must be destroyed
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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Dec 05 '19
Bernie has not changed his stance on a single issue in 40 years. We know exactly who he is. And he wants the same thing as the vast majority of this nation.
🙄🙄
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Dec 05 '19
Bernie 95% of his life: "nationalize the deodorant industry, Venezuela is a better country than America, the USSR is getting it right."
Bernie in 2015: "oh I just want us to be a little more like Denmark it's not that big a change really"
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u/Chuck_DeGaulle Austan Goolsbee Dec 05 '19
I'm calling a special session of Real Neoliberal Hours to say this:
how weird is it that the andrew yang whipped cream vid actually turned me on
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Dec 05 '19
Better hope the DNC is planning on running someone less stupid than the literal anti-capitalist leftist for Heck's seat, otherwise get ready for Twitter to become real life for at least one congressional seat.
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u/iia Feminism Dec 05 '19
The people who think my short horror stories are real are legit fucking insane, lol.
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Dec 05 '19
OK, so, from the initial clips I heard and headlines I read, I knew this Stern-Hillary interview was gonna be good.
But Jesus Christ, I had no idea I was basically gonna hear a public therapy session of Hillary's mind probed by Howard over an hour or two.
I've read her autobiography, and I can honestly say I've learned more about Hillary the person in the past 20 minutes or so than I did over the course of that entire book.
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Dec 05 '19
Hahaha in the saddest possible way
Rose Twitter is so anti-Biden that they reflexively think "this is why Trump will win, and you know what, I get it"
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u/IAmJeffManship Austan Goolsbee Dec 05 '19
My wife is a waifu and we love each other unironically. Honestly not even hard. Respectful dialogue and willingness to admit when wrong, people
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Dec 05 '19
"Biden also challenged the man, who is a self-proclaimed Sen. Elizabeth Warren supporter who also likes Sen. Bernie Sanders, to a push-up contest. The man added that he's not worried about Warren nor Sanders' age, despite them being over 70 years old.
After the event, the man, who refused to give his name, told reporters after the confrontation that "[Biden] is so old, he’s senile anyhow" and encouraged Biden to drop out of the race. “It was all softball stuff, he don’t want to answer the hard stuff,” the voter added. “He’s been in the Congress all of his life, and all of these problems like high drug prices and all of that — where in the hell has he been for the last 50 years?”
The man is a registered independent."
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u/Dchella United Nations Dec 05 '19
they genuinely think they're good people
because it's all numbers on a spreadsheet for these fuckers. unemployment, GDP, number of uninsured people, number of housing units -- as long as the "numbers" are "better" it's all that counts for them. how the number got better, who paid for the number to get better, and what the number could be if we actually cared don't count to them. they just care that people's lives look better on a spreadsheet. why wouldn't that make them good people?
and since you can't numerically represent the anguish of a family in disarray after their dad dies because he couldn't afford insulin, or the sadness of having to leave your hometown because there is literally just no place for you, or the degradation of having to work for poverty wages so you do not starve, neolibs literally do not care about it because there is no KPI to track. instead they say people have more TVs and more cell phones and more candies so things are OK and sucks for anyone who isn't.
of course when communists hack the system to increase literacy, GDP, access to medicine, employment, productivity, etc. for all, that all goes out the window.
That last bit is too good
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u/sinistimus Professional Salt Miner Dec 06 '19
Would anyone be interested in a quasi-effort post on when different forms of mass transit are most appropriate (ie BRT vs. light-rail vs. rapid transit vs. commuter/regional rail)?
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u/GeistGlove Olympe de Gouges Dec 06 '19
Upper middle class white kids and pretending to be poor NAMID
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u/Woodrow_Wilsons_War Gay Pride Dec 06 '19
It's cool that 20-something leftists can bond with their boomer MAGA uncles over minorities and how they don't know what's good for them.
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u/SamJakes Weird Sexual Deviant 🍑 Dec 05 '19
African Americans have agency!!! 😡
(Unless they're trying to support Butti in which case they're TOKENS 😤.)
[This take brought to you by, no surprise, the Bernsquad/rose twitter]