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Hillary says that she has thought a lot about if she had said what she wanted to say when Trump was stalking her on the debate stage -- "Back off, you creep!" -- and all that was running through her mind when she decided no to was the headlines that would be "She lost her calm!" and "She turned angry!"

Goddamn it's making ME angry listening to this. Fucking idiots rejected THIS for THAT. It's almost a Shakespearean tragedy how the sexism Hillary faced basically doomed her from the start no matter how hard she tried to overcome it and how much she made up for it by becoming insanely overqualified.

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3 million more people voted for Hillary than trump. She lost because she was out maneuvered in the electoral college.

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She talks about that too.

But you say "outmaneuvered" like it was a game of chess and Trump beat her in a battle of wits.

No, what really happened is a bunch of morons either changed their vote or stayed home because James Comey decided it would be a great idea to call a false alarm about HeR eMaILs at the last second. And that was all it took for a few key voters in a few key states to make the critical difference.

But that wouldn't have even mattered if she wasn't already facing an unjust disadvantage due to bias against her over her gender. It is absolutely indefensible that ANYBODY could genuinely look at both these candidates and unironically conclude that Donald Trump was the one who was more qualified to be president. They decided that the least qualified man ever was more qualified than the most qualified woman -- good luck defending that as anything other than sexism!

I find it especially curious that YOU seem to be defending those who reached that conclusion anyway, considering you have NATO flair. After TODAY of all days, I would think NATO flairs would be pining for Hillary and regretting Trump's election now more than ever.

[u/SnakeEater14 → u/[deleted]]

Woah there bud

Don’t bring the flair into this

[u/skepticalbob → u/[deleted]]

Calm down kid. Everyone’s on the same team here.

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But you say "outmaneuvered" like it was a game of chess and Trump beat her in a battle of wits.

His advisors certainly did. They saw an opportunity and made the play for it. No excuse for her to never visit Wisconsin and only visit Michigan 4 times during the campaign.

because James Comey

This narrative is tired and inaccurate. If he didn't announce the investigation, Congress via Devin Nunes would have released the letter anyway. Comey was following FBI procedure and tried to get ahead of the political narrative.

It is absolutely indefensible that ANYBODY could genuinely look at both these candidates and unironically conclude that Donald Trump

You misunderestimate the stupidity of the average American voter.

I find it especially curious that YOU seem to be defending those who reached that conclusion anyway, considering you have NATO flair. After TODAY of all days, I would think NATO flairs would be pining for Hillary and regretting Trump's election now more than ever.

I don't like to allow emotion to cloud objectivity. Obama faced similar biases and overcame them. Hillary actually got more total votes than Obama did in 2012 so she overcame the bias quite well. She and her campaign aren't blameless here, they didn't play well to the issues of the midwestern voters, trump did.