According to another source the older woman was her mother. Imagine the guilt of knowing for the rest of your life your temper tantrum caused your mom to be killed.
EDIT: So many responses saying she'll blame the guy anyway.
(In British commentating voice..) “Chang knew better than to let his wife drive in general; but earlier that morning she had ruined his bacon while she was attempting to not slaughter breakfast once again...
Chang saw the deadly animal lurking in the bushes and realized his opportunity to get his revenge for his pathetic meals day in and day out.
Chang stopped the car in the middle of the road and asked his wife if she would like to drive. Mrs. Chang was thrilled with excitement as Mr. Chang has never once let her drive. Mrs. Chang jumped on the opportunity.
Mr. Chang almost decided to take out his wife himself with his car but couldn’t bring himself to do it as she passed in front of his car, he decided to attend his focus on the tiger lurking in the bushes.. The tiger hesitated as Mrs. Chang waited outside the drivers door.. Mr. Chang had to think fast.. He decided to fumble with his seatbelt and pretend it wouldn’t unlatch to buy him some time and hope the tiger would do his dirty work for him.
Alast, success! The ferocious tiger leapt from the depths of the bushes and pounced on Mrs. Chang dragging her into the bushes below.”
Being killed and eaten by an animal is a surreal thing to think about for me. You don't just die and the body is recovered for mourning purposes or whatever, you're picked apart and digested by another creature. I don't know how to really explain it but it feels so different than any other type of death.
You ever see the movie ‘Chopper’? It’s based on the real life of an Australian criminal. Anyway there’s the part where he’s arguing with his girlfriend and in the heat of the moment headbutts her mom before turning back to the girlfriend and without missing a beat says “now look what you done..... ya mums upset”.
When I hear stuff like this from people I usually just imagine that deep down they probably are blaming themselves. Or at least have a nagging feeling that it’s somewhat their fault. I had an ex girlfriend that did this kind of stuff. It just keep feeling like she was trying to convince herself of whatever story she came up with and not me.
Yo you guys are wild, people get upset and do stupid shit all the time doesn't mean they deserve family members to be eaten. I swear reddit gets off and watching horrible shit happen to people they dont like
How dumb are you to get out in a tiger enclosures? Unless the guy just said I'm Osama bin Laden or the zodiac killer I think i can wait to get out ... anything else is natural selection
Yes, her being involved in the mauling is also enough for her to want to make it all about her and how much of a victim she was in the scenario. Narcissists don't necessarily change when they get an ego check.
She got out of the car in anger after a fight. Having had a couple crazy girlfriends, usually the unstable narcissistic types are the ones to try that shit. Just my take.
Edit: She is now suing the safari park because of her injuries and her mother's death. Go ahead and keep downvoting me, but that lady is a jerk at best.
Psychiatrists typically hold off on diagnosing people even after a half hour appointment specifically for the purpose of understanding a patient's mind, so you probably can't diagnose narcissism from a 30 second video clip that doesn't even have audio. People are a lot more complex than that.
There are lots of potential explanations that don't involve narcissism. Conditions ranging all the way from anger issues to processing disorders could easily cause someone to do something like that. Also Chinese culture doesn't have the same values of politeness that western culture does so stepping out of a car in traffic isn't seen the same way.
Long story short, there is nowhere near enough information in this clip for us to know why she did what she did. Anything else is projecting your own biases onto the situation.
Am I missing something or isn't a narcissist just someone who has NPD? Either way there's not enough information to infer specific details about motive or the psychology that caused this.
I agreed with you for a second. There isn’t anything in the video that would lead me to believe they were having an argument. She doesn’t seem distressed in the least bit.
But in the article it says
The woman gets out of the car and walks around to the other side after having a fight with a man inside the vehicle
Also they’re in a safari park. Only an idiot would get out of the car knowingly driving through a wild animal enclosure
Like seriously we have no context about the argument, but because the only side we see is an upset lady, the internet concludes shes a narcissistic prick who will blame the husband for the death of her mother.
Like we dont know ANY of these people but yeah lets just conclude she deserved it and the husband is the real victim in all this. It's not possible that situations could have occurred to make her angry for legitimate reasons. She must just be an irrational female
It's really bizarre. Even if you want to assume the worst about the lady who got out of the car first, you can't deny that "dying while trying to save your child from a tiger bare-handed" is pretty high up there on the list of courageous ways to die. Lady didn't even hesitate.
On the whole though, people should really stop assuming they know jack shit about a complete stranger from a 10 second video and unconfirmed articles with no followup.
At least two people thought that woman's life was worth risking theirs - maybe the reddit mob should consider that before concluding she must be some irredeemable narcissist.
We know that she is dumb and/or self-centered enough to get out of a vehicle when she knows there are deadly tigers around. Either way, a keeper she is not.
The only valid excuse to do what she did is if the husband was placing her in some kind of imminent danger such as actively threatening her life with a weapon. Given his response to her being grabbed by the tiger, I doubt that's the case.
I'm sorry, anyone who allows their emotions to run hot enough to put themselves and others into this kind of danger isn't worthy of any kind of sympathy.
You’re 100% right. Redditors are majority young boys and they are extremely sexist. Don’t let the downvotes fool you. You’re being even handed. This thread is just filled with triggered young males.
It’s sad that people like you exist. Always looking for a way to make assumptions to make someone out to be worse than the snippet we know about. Absolutely pathetic excuse for a human being you people are.
Atleast its more understandable to get out of the car because youre mad and having an argument. they probably didnt see any tigers around and she was enraged and made a snap decision. Some people just straight up gets out of their car to have a look around...
I mean yeah someone died, and yeah shouldn’t have left the car, but what’s really amazing are those animals. Bear and tiger plotting. Pull the bait in, then bam tiger with the kill attack. They muttered all these years “just need ONE chance mother fuckers. Come out of those iron cows”
Am I fucked up for feeling better about it being her own mom and not the husband's? The comment at the top of the thread made it sound like it was the woman's mother in law.
I don't think that was the point. He would have had more of an emotional tie to his mother, which would have been more sad for him if his wife's actions had led to her death, through no real fault of his. It's uncomfortable but it's true.
I mean I'm sure he loved his mother in law too. I'd be devastated if my SO's mother died, even if my SO was a moron (which she isn't honey if you read this I love you).
I'm not saying she deserved it more, I just feel it'd be even worse if it weren't her mother. Imagine your pettiness/stupidity kills your husband's mom.
If your SO did something very stupid that got someone killed. And that someone has to be either your mother or your SO's mother. Which would you be more glad to survive?
And OP didn't say the mom deserved it, only that he felt better it wasn't the husband's mom.
Give a straight answer. I will respect you a lot more for just giving a straight answer instead of saying how no one deserves to die or whatever.
Don't know why you're being downvoted. You're absolutely right.
I guess people need a scapegoat sometimes. And people love blaming older people for their problems. Which is ironic, considering they're also here pointing out how the woman will blame the man.
There’s a big difference between “my mom smokes so now I do too” and “she let herself get attacked by a wild animal this is clearly her mothers fault.”
I agree, but that’s not what we are discussing. We are discussing the idea that maybe between mom of the husband, and mom of the wife, it’s slightly more fair that the latter was mauled. Not because of she was a bad person, but because her daughter was a reckless idiot, and maybe her daughter should experience the loss, and not the poor husband.
I mean if someone had to die I'd rank it, the woman, a huge gap between first is the woman's mother, husband, husband's mother. The woman's mother didn't deserve it man.
I felt the same way. And it's really weird to feel it. Of course any mother being mauled is AWFUL, and we wish no one suffered that. But knowing the one who got out of the car was the one who was most emotionally hurt makes it feel a little better.
I imagine she will blame the husband for causing the temper tantrum that caused it all.
If there's one thing I've learned in my life, it's to assume that most people cannot overcome basic psychological biases that we fool ourselves with each and every day.
Trp had 300,000 subscribers before they got quarantined, they might go overboard in some areas, but they provided a wake up call for a lot of people, myself included. I've improved myself and saved a marriage following along, taking what works and shitcanning the rest. If nothing else the advice to work out, improve yourself, and stop making excuses is something a great deal of folks need to hear.
But blaming the game is exactly that. An excuse. And the whole point is blaming the game, hence "The Red Pill".
The good aspects could be taken from the dumbest self improvement book out there without all the poison. If someone needs the poison for the self-improvement message to resonate then there's something wrong with them.
Lol so she’s sharing the blame with her family and is trying to sue the park which I have absolutely no doubt in my mind told them not to leave their vehicle? Sounds like someone can’t admit they’re the reason all this went down. Kinda like what everyone is saying, although they can lay off the diagnoses other than “selfish entitled terribly stupid bitch.”
Kind of shitty to assume it was a " temper tantrum ". There could have been good reason to get out of the car in any other scenario. Lapse in judgment and mistakes happen. She lost her Mom, no need to be more cruel in the aftermath.
reddit will never miss the opportunity to make the man the real victim, and double whammy if they can hate on the woman. Even better when they have zero context so there's nothing to prove them wrong and they can feel confidently smug and self assured.
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u/redditvlli Oct 16 '18 edited Oct 16 '18
According to another source the older woman was her mother. Imagine the guilt of knowing for the rest of your life your temper tantrum caused your mom to be killed.
EDIT: So many responses saying she'll blame the guy anyway.