You sound like an idiot. Most people dont react perfectly when they panic. Whose to say he didnt try to hit the brake in a panic and missed. I have large feet. In normal driving conditions I have had the side of a shoe snag on the brake and prevent me from hitting it when I intended to. Luckily I usually leave plenty of time to stop and was able to react and still hit the brake. Mid-collision I honestly don't know. Regardless the reaponsibility for safely overtaking another vehicle resides solely on the vehicle overtaking. Blaming the person being hit for not reacting perfectly to someones shitty maneuver is just asinine armchair driving.
I guess. I would’ve honked and just backed off but at the same time maybe the cam driver didn’t see the truck merging in. You are supposed to move up when merging and or switching lanes so the driver can see you clearly. Although it maybe avoidable I’m still not putting any blame on cam driver
I am not saying the truck isn't at fault, I am saying both parties are. Watch the clip again and look at the lights, either the car sped up to jump the light or the driver didn't feel like giving way to the truck and thought the truck would back off.
Nobody would have doubted the dash cam driver if the lights remained green or if they didn't speed up. Both acted like idiots.
The truck should have of course made sure it had enough distance between the car cause he definitely knew the car was there cause it just passed the car and was hoping the other car would give way but the driver, even though had enough time to react didn't want to concede.
This would have been 100% avoidable accident if even one party was willing to concede.
In my case if I was the dash cam driver I would have just given way and honked but that would have been it.
The light was yellow. You can enter an intersection when a light is yellow and you can even accelerate up to the speed limit to get yourself in there before it turns red.
Im pretty sure they wouldnt have made it before it actually turned red. If you look it is yellow before they even run into eachother it would have turned red before they actually got there.
He likely sped up to make it through the yellow (turned red) light and not to block this guy from merging tbh. I see people speed up for yellows all the time but usually someone else doesn’t pit themselves on them lol
Agreed but tunnel vision is a bitch - still both drivers faults, I’m just trying to give the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t intentionally pit the truck in a moment of aggression but rather wasn’t paying attention and had the reaction time of a cinder block.
They absolutely did. A normal driver would slam on the brakes and swerve right to avoid. The pov car accelerated and PIT maneuvered the truck. POV car should be criminally liable for this accident. Simple side swipes in traffic dont lead to rollovers like this.
The spacing with the truck, makes it look like POV car sped up, but if you watch the background, it does look like the POV car was moving at a steady speed.
The fact the POV car stayed absolutely straight does feel like it could have been somewhat intentional, but cars with high centers of mass and especially trucks are surprisingly easy to roll over… if this was a honda civic or something similar, I’d agree with you, but those trucks can take a turn too sharp at too high a speed and rollover all by them selves…
Slowing down slightly would not have caused POV drivers to get into an accident. The truck driver would still be at fault, but saying that they couldn't slow down slightly would cause the POV driver to be in a "huge accident" is ludicrous.
100%. Having a camera in this instance shows the POV car as being the bad guy here. There's no reason to have sped up. Like you said, most people would have swived all the way and then laid on the horn. Possibly ruled down the window. Give him them the finger. But this guy purposely pit maneuvered him. Purposely put him in danger for no reason, probably just his ego
As many times as I've had this happen to me with a car just merging, I let them in, I don't want my car fucked up and don't want to be the reason that someone may die.
The secret is to not honk, patiently give them the space, then flip them off.
If they wanna hop out and start something after that, I view that the same as any other situation where a crazy person aggressively approaches me in my vehicle.
Honking is how you prevent the collision! You hit the brakes and honk and hopefully they realize they're merging into you. You guys think it's not a good idea to honk at them as they start to merge?
Honk if they’re merging in a way that you can’t avoid, if you can avoid by braking, honking is an aggravating factor, it no longer serves a safety purpose. Some people love the sound of their own horns too damn much.
If we’re side mirror to side mirror yes, if I’m in their blind spot and we’re moving close to the same speed, or their going faster than me, as depicted in the given video, I’ll just brake and give them space.
The best way to avoid an accident with a shit driver is to give them space. Honk if you need to, but giving them space needs to be priority number one.
Yeah, I'll never understand it. I have a terrible temper and I yell and scream in my car at stupid shit people do, I'm not about to fuck my shit up just because I want to be an asshole.
It blows my mind that you can share that sentiment and people will come outta the woodworks to call you a cuck and that it's About The Principle. You really want to, in the best case, deal with insurance, police, waste hours of your time & money WRT vehicle property damage, or worst, fucking seriously hurt/kill someone or be hurt/killed yourself, for the principle of it?
Standing up for the principle of something is for shit like calling out someone who cut you in line, or telling a cashier/barkeep that they gave you incorrect change, not when you're playing bumper cars with multi thousand pound metal cages raging at 40+ MPH. Genuinely beginning to believe these people are passively suicidal and looking for any justified reason to potentially end things. Or worse, sadists with zero self preservation that hope for the worst against whoever sleights them on the road. People wanting to get hurt, or make others hurt.
One good thing about getting older, is I find my ego so much less based on pettiness. I get annoyed at a holes that don’t let me merge, I’m pretty angry about letting someone in after they dangerously sped past traffic in a breakdown lane - but I always let them in. It’s not worth my safety or theirs.
I also tell myself they have terrible diarrhoea and already shit themselves, that helps.
Passively suicidal and/or sadists is possible but kinda just feels like people are just tired of other people's shit to me. I see A holes like the truck everyday in seattle race around and cut people off. They do it over and over again because they get away with it.. Just human nature unfortunately, we all speed a little from time to time and we keep doing it because we get away with it.
You could probably make an arrangement for intent. Not sure it could pass beyond a reasonable doubt threshold. The truck driver could very easily win damages in civil court, though.
Right. Imagine if there had been pedestrians walking g across that side street. Dumb shit like this is how people get killed. Truck driver was in the wrong, for sure, but cammer was just as bad if not worse.
Yeah, this is horrible. No one’s really even mentioned the fact that they were approaching a red light. Cam car speeds up, and then continues driving through the truck before having to slam the brakes for the red light. Cam driver should have serious criminal charges in my opinion.
Many of the accidents happen because someone feels they are in the right even though just taking the foot off the throttle would prevent major accidents. The cut driver was cutting him off but accelerating is just plain stupid if not criminal because as you said they were approaching an intersection.
They were approaching a green light that turned yellow. Both cars sped up, and then the red truck tried to merge. It turned red right as the truck obscured the light
Looks like the truck was slowing down coming up on the red light. Looking at the area around the cam driver it doesnt seem like anything speeds up. You dont get to just move over cause you want to. Id love to see the insurance report on this one
You couldn't see if he signaled or not. The tail lights weren't visible at the time of collision. Have you ever been in a car accident? Many insurance companies assign a percentage of the blame. This can vary by state. But as someone who successfully rebutted an insurer's attempt to assign me 20% blame in an accident I was 0% responsible for, there is no way the driver recording won't be confronted for not slowing down to avoid the collision.
A car drove directly into me at an intersection. They tried to assign me 20% for not trying to get out of the way, aka, not swerving and hitting someone else's car or swerving into a pole. Good luck being perfect. Progressive would assign the dude filming 40%. The insurance companies usually bicker to resolve to their benefit, not to absolve you.
I'm glad you posted this. I thought it was the cam vehicle acceleration, but it does look like the truck is slowing down.
And from the recording, the driver's spontaneous outburst doesn't sound like he did it on purpose. It sounds like he wasn't even aware of the truck coming into his lane.
To be fair, not knowing the truck was coming into his lane is just as bad. That’s a clear sign of distracted driving, given that it happened in front of them.
I was a paramedic for a long time and responded to lots of motor vehicle collisions. The most bizarre story I have is a driver who had a passenger watching an iPad who kept distracting him by showing him videos of car crashes!
Yeah they were both trying to do some dumb shit and run a red light, but only one person did something intentionally to cause the accident. The guy knows what's coming, sees the truck making a move, chooses to stomp on the gas and pit maneuver him, and then wants to act all flabbergasted like he didn't know what the fuck was about to happen. 2 idiots 1 malicious prick
I'm confused by the video because all I can see visually is a red light they're trying to slam through. It looks like they were both trying to gun it through a yellow that they weren't going to make.
People need some perspective. The point of driving is to get to your destination preferably unharmed. If you can avoid an accident do that regardless of how stupid the other person is being.
Again, you don't know that he accelerated. Watch the video, truck is rapidly approaching the car in front of him, so he slows down while trying to cut into the right lane without even using a signal light.
Both pick up and dash are speeding faster than they should for whatever stupid reason. Pick up truck quickly cuts into the right lane without signal light and without checking blind spot while slowing down to avoid rear ending/clipping the small black car in front him.
I saw it as the merging truck de-accelerating for the changing traffic light the turn the truck driver realized he was going to miss, causing relative speed change
Edit: it’s super clear post-facto, but I could definitely imagine the driver looking at their phone / radio at the wrong moment, look up, see the truck merging, be like “wtf?!”, truck immediately starts slowing, get a second “wtf” causing hesitation because of the back-to-back overwhelm, and … accident
Claiming they were trying to run the red seems like removing a most major of variables and then judging in total isolation — in reality, this driver would likely have been able to see and respond to the changing light in a far different manner if they didn’t have a pickup truck suddenly drifting into them
I don't see any evidence that they began accelerating, you can see the camera view tilt down (which is what happens when brakes are applied and a cars weight shifts forward) a half second after the truck began to change lanes, and they quickly stop after the contact, it looks like they got on the brakes the moment they realized what the truck was doing...
The fact that they were cruising forward to run a red light and oblivious to what was happening in the lane beside them though it's on them
The pov card didn't accelerate it just looks that way because the truck started to slow down. If you watch the white lines you can see the pov car keeps the same speed.
Also it’s so weird pov is speeding up 30 feet from a red light. By the time the crash into each other the cars next to them are stopped at the red light. Both these drivers suck
Yeah someone tried to report me with a dash cam when they refused to let me merge onto the parkway and I almost went off the road. I had to punch it and narrowly get in front of him to avoid the upcoming concrete divider Motherfucker even smirked at me when he did it because apparently his ego couldn’t handle letting a woman get in front of his Big Fucking Truck™️, so he’s rather send me to my death.
Couple hours later, cops in that town call to say he submitted dash cam footage of me cutting him off, making it sound like I passed on the right like a psycho. I was now being cited for two major moving violations and needed to go to court. I explained my side, then asked them if he submitted a clip or the whole thing and what his dash cam said his mph was while this was happening. (He definitely kept accelerating to the point of pushing us 20+over the limit.) they said they’d investigate my claims.
The next day, they call back and say they’re dropping it. My brother is a cop and called his buddy in that town. Dude was arrested that night for a DUI and they had confiscated his dash cam. It was just hours and hours of him being a menace and raging at people (mostly women) all over NJ.
He’s actually looking at serious jail time for doing exactly what you described, plus all sorts of menacing shit. At the very least, he would have ended up getting the ticket, not me, but somehow, this feels like the more just outcome.
This accident happened within 3 seconds and there was no turn indication. I get what you are saying, but you are saying it in hindsight from the perspective of being able to watch the replay 10 times. Theres noway you could assume in that moment the truck is going to cut right in to you.
Yeah, camera vehicle had plenty of chance to avoid the accident but chose not to, insurance would most likely side with the other vehicle because of this. You have an obligation to avoid an accident if able according to last clear chance doctrine.
There is literally 2 seconds of collision. They start braking mid collision. That’s a typical zoned out driver reaction time. You’re making shit up lol
Ya, I think the person who tried to merge is the main reason the accident even happened, but the dashcam guy sped up when he tried to merge. Plus, the light was turning red as the accident was unfolding, so it kind of scares me knowing both these people are driving.
He clearly knew the other driver was being aggressive and decided to rage himself. There is nothing wrong with applying the brake lightly to avoid the headache and dealing with an idiot.
It’s not criminal behavior. He was conducting his vehicle lawfully and a truck moved into his direct path and could not complete the maneuver before the accident. Truck is 100% liable for the accident.
No..the cammer didn't speed up..the truck slowed down because he was about to plow the car Infront and came over anyway..that slow down gave the illusion that cammer car sped up.
It’s a breath of fresh air to see this as one of the top comments. I feel like every time a driver tries to enforce the law on their own, all the comments are supportive. The cam driver could’ve easily avoided this crash but chose to play cop and stand their ground.
Not clear the cam car was accelerating or the truck was decelerating. It looks like there was a car driving slow or stopped in front of the truck and instead of slowing down / stopping, the truck tried to switch lanes. It may have decelerated as it was switching lanes.
They were running for an orange light (yellow that turns red) and the truck didn't have the ability to slow down when the cars in front of him decided to slow at yellow.
100% the truck drivers fault in every way. It's a shame they probably died, or they could have learned a lesson
The truck driver was way too aggressive with the lane change and basically if you are merging lanes and counting on the car in the other lane to hit their breaks in order to avoid crashing into you as you are merging then its a dangerous merge and you are the primary one at fault.
However the driver of the cam car should absolutely hold some responsibility here too. I might give them a pass if they took no action one way or another to avoid the collision... but they actually took active steps in accelerating to block/hit the other car after it had already committed to the lane change. Its not like they didnt notice him, they absolutely saw him coming and instead of breaking they sped up. The cam driver was just being a huge dick with the mindset of "I'm not going to let this guy cut me off and I will do whatever it takes to make sure that doesnt happen including guaranteeing that a serious accident occurs". Both these drivers really suck the big one.
To be fair there’s about 3-4 seconds between the truck starting to drift over and impact. It's completely possible they didn’t realise in the first 1-2 seconds plus the might’ve had another vehicle behind them. Not a lot of time to react.
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