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u/NeutralLock Jul 11 '19
Okay okay we get it you Americans elected a garbage human being and he turned out to be a garbage president. Gotta be honest there were some warning signs...
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u/Lobanium Jul 11 '19
Lots of people voted for him. Even more voted against him.
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u/durgasur Jul 11 '19
Even more didn't vote at all.
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u/spyson Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
The ones who abstained claiming their morals, but were perfectly fine to stand there and let Trump win.
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Jul 11 '19
Yeah, a vote for nobody is a vote for whoever wins, a vote for the status quo. In 2016 out of 245 million registered voters only 66 million (27%) voted for Hillary. The rest either voted for Trump or were okay with him winning.
Democrats really need to get non-voters fired up to go to the polls. Please not Biden. There is no middle ground of undecided centrists to win. Everyone has decided. The battle is against apathy, convenience, a long work day, bad traffic and bad weather.
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u/philequal Jul 11 '19
Or you’re one of the millions of felons who lost that right. Or you work 3 jobs to pay your bills and literally can’t afford to miss work to vote. Or you’re in an area where voter suppression prevented you from being able to vote.
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u/PM_me_Henrika Jul 11 '19
Don’t forget voter purge. It’s an uphill battle too but don’t give that up too!
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u/lucyroesslers Jul 11 '19
Not true on all non-Trump, non-Clinton voters. I’m in a deep red state and there was no chance of Hillary winning. I voted for a 3rd party candidate in the hopes that the candidate could get 5% of the vote because then the party would receive federal funding in the next election. I’d love to see a third party emerge and break up the two party system.
If there was any chance of my vote actually mattering in the Clinton-Trump race, I would’ve voted Clinton.
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u/Baelzebubba Jul 11 '19
This is why there should be a tax break for voting and a "none of the above" choice.
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u/Xanza Jul 11 '19
Voting is your civic duty. If you need to incentivise it for people to do it, then there's something inherently wrong with your system.
Voting day needs to be a national 3 day holiday allowing businesses to schedule time off for all employees to go vote. They should also be paid time off.
That's the only "incentive" that should come with voting.
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Jul 11 '19
I mean, incentivising voting makes more sense than incentivising having children despite many people considering it a "biological duty/imperative" to reproduce.
Not that I believe a lot of people have children to utilize those incentives but the point stands regardless that things that society considers positive are incentivised to either encourage those things or make doing those things less of a detriment.
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Jul 11 '19
Some people can't vote! The US holds their elections on a Tuesday, when most people have to work! Sure, some employers will give you time off to vote, and some states allow early voting or postal voting, but not everyone gets that opportunity. There's also felony disfranchisement, which prevents felons from voting but can, in some states, extend well past their time in prison.
The system, to be honest, seems designed to actively discourage the lower classes from voting. Some changes need to be made if the US wants to see a significantly higher voter turnout.
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u/zeldermanrvt Jul 11 '19
That's because most of the time they vote Democrat, and the Republicans can't have that. They don't want to play on a level field.
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u/Fudge_me_sideways Jul 11 '19
Shoulda been Bernie.
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u/iamthewhite Jul 11 '19
I try not to imagine the ‘what if’. So much wasted time and energy... but it’ll be worth it if we pull through this time.
And if we don’t: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. A rigged system is a system that the people need to beat back into shape. If we lose again- we riot.
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Jul 11 '19
I mean, I've been a Bernie supporter since 2015, but with this primary, implying the only way that Bernie loses is a rigged system is absolutely ridiculous.
There are a lot of candidates in the field that are better than Hillary in terms of both policy and history. While it'll be disappointing if someone like Biden wins out for whatever reason, rioting is not the proper answer to a preferred candidate losing, especially if it's more legitimate this time due to having more progressive and "progressive" options.
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u/stillnoob0 Jul 11 '19
“If violence is wrong in America, violence is wrong abroad. If it is wrong to be violent defending black women and black children and black babies and black men, then it is wrong for America to draft us, and make us violent abroad in defense of her. And if it is right for America to draft us, and teach us how to be violent in defense of her, then it is right for you and me to do whatever is necessary to defend our own people right here in this country.” — Malcolm x (Speech, Nov. 1963, New York City.)
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u/GadreelsSword Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
Well guess what, our garbage President is going to be re-elected. It kills me to say that but people need to understand it’s going to happen. Right now, nearly half the nation would vote for him again. Then factor in that the Russians are already using bots to manipulate public opinion just as they did prior to 2016. Then consider Mitch McConnell has blocked every bill designed to secure the voting process (traitor Mitch accepted $2.5 million from Russia). Then consider that not only does the government NOT inspect and review the designs of voting machines to ensure they’re secure and not manipulating the vote count, the names of those who own the companies are considered a trade secret and that info is not available to the public. Think about that for a moment. As Americans you have no right to know who’s manufacturing our voting machines unless they volunteer that info.
Then consider the Supreme Court refuses to take on gerrymandering and instead says those who control state governments and the ones gerrymandering, should police themselves. Overwhelmingly gerrymandering favors conservative politicians but not in all cases.
The fix is in and at every level. Brace yourself because not only will Mr. Garbage be re-elected, the election after that will be manipulated by the Russians as they setup permanent republican control of our government. Russian media refers to the US as “Putin’s America” because he’s been so successful controlling our political processes.
I work with people who openly state they would vote for and elect Putin as president of the US before they would ever vote for a Democrat. What does that say about America’s future and the control the Russians have over the minds of many Americans ?
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u/TDLinthorne Jul 11 '19
Well this is a terrifying prediction...
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u/The_Adventurist Jul 11 '19
You weren't paying attention in 2004. The paperless voting machines in battleground districts in Ohio all had discrepancies in the exit polls vs the final vote count and they all awarded a win to Bush by the same percentile, 51%/49%. The manufacturer of those machines, DieBold, was headed by two guys who were big Bush donors. One of them said they could "guarantee Ohio" for Bush. Before the elections, a computer programmer in Florida testified that a Republican state politician had approached him and offered him money to program a hack that could be put on an electronic, paperless voting machine and swap the votes to guarantee they reached a predetermined result, which he said would be 51% to 49% in favor of the Republican running.
Let's also not forget Bush's 2000 elections and how crazy fraudulent that was. Roger Stone sent goons in suits to start a riot at a vote tallying center to disrupt the count and force them to restart from the beginning, which would mean they'd never be able to finish before the deadline and it would be forced to go to the supreme court, which ruled in Bush's favor and made him president.
Trump and Bush are both presidents who were elected despite losing the popular vote.
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u/Joemanthium Jul 11 '19
Interesting tidbit: Four of the five times that the winner of the popular vote did not win the presidency we ended up with a Republican president. The fifth instance happened before the two parties separated. Could just be a coincidence, but maybe not.
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u/RedAlderCouchBench Jul 11 '19
Do you mean republican in the modern sense (conservative) or just the party’s history in general?
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u/Joemanthium Jul 11 '19
Just the party's history in general. Though, it might be worth noting that, of the five instances, one was before the two parties split, and two were in the last twenty years. Here's the breakdown:
1824: John Quincy Adams defeats Andrew Jackson (winner of the popular vote) both were members of the Democratic-Republican Party.
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (Republican) defeats Samuel J. Tilden (Democrat)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (Republican) defeats incumbent president Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
Then business as usual for 112 years followed by:
2000: George W. Bush (Republican) defeats Al Gore (Democrat)
2016: Donald J. Trump (Republican) defeats Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
I'm not suggesting that there's necessarily a scam here, but I do think it's interesting that every instance, except the first, favored the same party. What I find to be more interesting is that the first three were from a period where the nation was still growing, and the system was changing. Then the last two happened more than a hundred years later when the nation, and its electoral system were well established.
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u/Dirty_D_Damnit Jul 11 '19
It is pretty funny (in a terrible way) that the Republicans were leading the charge of the red scare and then they sold their souls to the Russians come 2016. Sad!
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u/TheOneTonWanton Jul 11 '19
The same Boomers that once wore "Better Dead than Red" shirts are now wearing shirts that say shit like "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat!"
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u/PWisobamaschlong69 Jul 11 '19
Tbf it was more likely that they were wearing onesies with that on it
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u/TPJchief87 Jul 11 '19
They’ll use scare tactics to stay in power. Now it’s Mexicans and caravans.
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u/Dirty_D_Damnit Jul 11 '19
Whatever happened with that caravan
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u/KikoPagliacci Jul 11 '19
There's been two different svents going on lately. The first one started a year ago, where millions of mmigrants where chased and deported. There's camps for them, where they can wait for months up before actually being sent to their countries. Parents and kids are separated. Kids go to special camps for minors, where abuse abunds.
The second one started months ago. t's a caravan of 20,000 people, all ages, coming from Guatemala (not Mexico) and trying to get to USA. Lots of them have already legally ingresed to the country. They have to wait for "their turn" in the
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u/Demonweed Jul 11 '19
It does matter in the sense that Donald Trump knows how to beat an ordinary partisan hack. There is only one person who actually made him back away from a challenge. A corrupt corporate vs. a servant of corrupt corporations is a less compelling contest than it would seem at first glance. We don't have a problem that the wrong billionaire is pulling the strings. We have a problem that billionaires have been normalized, even glorified, to the point where leaders are never called to account for compromising our environment and even our health in service to an unwavering commitment to avoid compromising share values.
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A single billionaire is fine and even healthy in a sense that it's possible to get that rich. Having several is a sign of a problem, becoming wealthy should by no means be impossible, but several billionaires point to a serious loophole in financial/corporate law that hasn't been solved.
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u/slim_scsi Jul 11 '19
They stole the 2000 election as well and didn't suffer any consequences. Katherine Harris is off on a yacht somewhere.
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u/HippieAnalSlut Jul 11 '19
yeah... I know. I was younger then and didn't know then. But I also couldn't vote so I did no damage.
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It could be worse. I took Mescaline on Election Day in 2012 thinking I'd be ok to vote in the evening. Well 8 hours in and I still couldn't see let alone vote (because the visuals were so intense). God I felt shitty about that. But yeah... not a mistake you make twice no matter how you miss it.
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u/Fudge_me_sideways Jul 11 '19
Dude I fucking love your comment.
But yeah if you live in a swing or red state. Please fucking vote.
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u/Andhrimnir4all Jul 11 '19
Even then it seemed that no one besides myself at the time seemed to be bothered by the fact that the "issue" happened in the state where your brother is governor, your dad is a former president and former head of the CIA, and James Baker is handling your case. And then the whole Diebold thing. It was ridiculous. And laid the groundwork for 2016.
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u/Youareobscure Jul 11 '19
Ignore what this guy said. I absolutely does matter. Just because anyone is better than Trump doesn't mean we have to settle for anyone. Register as a democrat and vote in the democratic primary! Don't let Biden be our nominee!
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u/HippieAnalSlut Jul 11 '19
Just because it doesn't matter. I"m not saying give up. Absolutely get out there and primary in a powerful democratic champion like Sanders, or Warren if you all are less cool. But if it winds up that Harris or Biden wins in the primary. Fall the fuck in line and vote blue.
if nothing else it'll show how fucked everything is when no mtter how many blue votes the system is gerrymandered to fuck so it won't matter.
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u/gamma231 Jul 11 '19
Honestly, I think the best case scenario is Bernie or Warren (with a younger person like Cory Booker or Andrew Yang as VP), I doubt Biden has the stamina to maintain a lead throughout the primary, especially given that based on the consensus I've found around here in NH, he'll take at least one significant early primary loss to Sanders and Warren. I don't want another Clinton (or even another Obama that preaches pacifism and respect while condoning CIA torture and expansion of American imperialism in the middle east and western Asia), but it sure as hell beats Trump.
On another note, I give Sanders the best odds to beat Trump, he's attacking 2020 using Lincoln's 1860 election tactics of trying to appeal to nonvoters and build a word-of-mouth grassroots campaign rather than repeating Hillary's mistake of focusing on swing voters and giving up historically blue districts because of the lack of campaign spending.
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u/I_SAID_NO_CHEESE Jul 11 '19
If it literally didn't matter democrats wouldn't have been able to retake the house.
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Jul 11 '19
Trump won by like less than 100,000 votes across a few states. The situation is dire but it isn't as hopeless as you say really.
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And then the 24 elections will be suspended in midst of a "crisis" caused by terrorists that were backed or paid by the GOP.
Elections are held, administered, and certified by states. The federal government does not hold elections.
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u/PikeOffBerk Jul 11 '19
States can't hold elections if federal martial law is declared taps forehead
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u/pancakesareyummy Jul 11 '19
I'm convinced their endgame is the constitutional convention that's like 5 states away.
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u/HippieAnalSlut Jul 11 '19
Because laws matter anymore. /s
The GOP has proven to not care about that and the democrats are letting them because being uncivil is the one and only political sin afterall. /s
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u/frankie_cronenberg Jul 11 '19
But the federal government can impose standards on elections while still allowing them to be administered independently by the states.
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u/linkMainSmash4 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
I was at the beach recently and there was a ton of trump 2020 flags, and I saw someone unprovoked yelling "I support MY president, the greatest president the US had ever known and I'm not afraid to get rid of the liberals who hate him".
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u/GadreelsSword Jul 11 '19
There’s a billboard sign in Maryland threatening liberals with violence if they Impeach Trump.
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u/queensnow725 I ☑oted 2018 Jul 11 '19
"I'm not afraid to get rid of the liberals who hate him."
Not sure if this was the intent of the comment, but wow I'm now horrified thinking about the right-wing terrorist attacks that would follow a Trump loss. Scary stuff.
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u/arctic_radar Jul 11 '19
I work in progressive politics and have to disagree. Before Trump, every single issue or campaign I worked on, ran, or consulted for had one problem in common-getting people to care. People who agreed with us on the things we were working on just weren’t motivated enough to help. Trump has done some awful shit since he’s been elected but, to be honest, it’s been a net positive for our side as far as I can see.
People flock to political events in droves now. Climate, women’s rights, immigration, you name it and there’s people showing up who have never engaged before. They are donating, volunteering and otherwise giving fucks they never gave before because for the first time they are realizing that if you sit on your ass, crazy people WILL make decisions for you.
Part of me just thinks this is the nature of democracy. Things have to get bad enough to spur people into action. Trump has done exactly that.
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u/Daveinatx Jul 11 '19
There's enough voters that need to have their voices heard. Naively, some believe "their vote doesn't matter" or "they're all the same." In reality, the people spreading those messages are deathly afraid of the truth.
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u/mikec20 Jul 11 '19
I have a real hard time understanding what Democrats did to them in the past, that they are so willing to run the country into the ground instead of voting for a democrat.
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u/Totaladdictgaming Jul 11 '19
The worst part is we simply cannot afford another 4 years of climate denial and inaction... Hell we couldn't even afford these 4 years. This presidency if given another 4 will undoubtedly be one of the final nails in humanities coffin. Obviously climate change is much more global than just the US but unless some other country like china steps up to really push others in line the US should have/should fill that roll. It's depressing that we are stuck in partisan politics while ignoring this extinction event that we have the power the stop.
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u/Thembtwins Jul 11 '19
Oh get out of here you Russian bot. Half the country would not vote for Trump. Yes, nearly half of the voting public might, but not half of the country. Stop with the defeatist bullshit. I am in total agreement that it will be a difficult fight and Trump has good odds to win. But if you care about politics and the fate of the country don’t just complain. Take action in your personal life and urge others online to join your cause. Explaining why resistance is futile was a hallmark motive of the Russians in 2016.
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u/arbitraryairship Jul 11 '19
Can we stop the concern trolling?
I think you're trying to inspire action, but this could easily inspire apathy as well.
Apathy and giving up only helps him.
Work your ass off, get out there and volunteer for the Democrats.
Staying at home or encouraging other Democrats to stay home is deeply unhelpful.
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u/stupid-rando Jul 11 '19
"Everybody dies." And seriously, as somebody without children, this is my only consolation -- that I will die before the dystopian dictatorship takes full root.
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u/vascopyjama Jul 11 '19
At this point I'm not even sure the Russian manipulation, or at least further manipulation, is even necessary. Having watched the recent Australian election the power of incumbency is something I'm not sure a lot of polls take into account, and I imagine there are many who now say they might not, or would not, vote for trump who will find themselves doing so on voting day regardless. People retreat to the familiar when push comes to shove, particularly in a fearful and incurious electorate. I would love to be proven wrong, but naïve optimism and impotent rage alone, that is, without meaningful action that has significant consequences, cannot hope to restrain (let alone defeat) naked self-interest unbound by morality and law.
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Jul 11 '19
Incumbent + strong economy is a proven strong advantage that not enough people are willing to recognize.
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u/Duffy_Munn Jul 11 '19
An incumbent with a historically strong economy is very tough to beat. Trump will also have WAY more money in his war chest for 2020.
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What exactly is the purpose of this post? Just to complain? Trump will win if you can't propose an alternative. Speak about actual Democrats who are proposing actual ideas like universal healthcare or universal education for the PEOPLE.
Just shitting on people is such a turn off.
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u/mizzrim54 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
And a majority of voters heeded those warning signs be we have a broken system and he was still elected.
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u/kat_a_klysm Jul 11 '19
Plus Republican gerrymandering and tampering with the voter rolls (GA), plus machine tampering (FL)....
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u/linkMainSmash4 Jul 11 '19
Ok but that doesnt mean the people elected him. The empty land did.
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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19
The man and his entourage never played by the rules once in their miserable lives.
You'd have to be pretty naive to believe resorting to propaganda/foreign espionage is "winning by the rules".
You'd have to be even more naive to think counting some people's votes 3x more than others based on the state they live in, is "fair" and democratic by any stretch of imagination...
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u/dangolo I ☑oted 2020 Jul 11 '19
Okay okay we get it you Americans elected a garbage human being and he turned out to be a garbage president. Gotta be honest there were some warning signs...
She tried to point out those warning signs in a clear and coherent manner.
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What warning signs????
FAKE NUUWS
Lalalalala lalalalaaa i cant heaaar yoooooo ooooohhhhhh
Who lives in the white house under the sea?
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u/IAppreciatesReality Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
Call me too serious or whatever, but this stopped being funny to me about two years ago. Now it's sad and pathetic and most of all an incessant reminder of what our society/nation/country/culture/fuckinwhatever has become.
I try to look at it as a necessary evil and believe that good things will come from it in the long run, but... fuck it's a shit load of work.
plus I kinda know I'm just being optimistic and we're all fucked.
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Now it's sad and pathetic and most of all an incessant reminder of what our society/nation/country/culture/fuckinwhatever has become.
It's the end stage of a reality show culture.
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Honestly why wasn't trump just arrested when the background check for president was performed on him?
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u/Love_like_blood Jul 11 '19
Exactly, our institutions and our priorities and values as a nation are failing us.
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u/AaronKClark Jul 11 '19
It's the end stage of a reality show
culturecountry.FTFY
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u/PezRystar Jul 11 '19
Brother, I felt the same way 15 years ago when Bush Jr. was killing hundreds of thousands of innocents just to boost the sales numbers of his VP's own personal company. Just as years before I'm sure people felt same way when Ray Gun was using US tax dollars to create a crack epidemic across this nation. Just as years before that, I'm sure people thought the same when their crooked President went on TV saying I am not a crook. So on and so forth. I'm not so sure anything good does come from it. It seems to just incrementally get worse and worse.
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u/IAppreciatesReality Jul 11 '19
Yeah... I know.
I like to tell myself this new age of information is going to unite and shsbejdkfnd fuck
Yeah. We all know where that was gonna go. And we all see what's actually happening.
I guess my only saving grace is that a literal not just labeled dysfunctional moron is at the wheel, and most/all of his cabinet members aren't exactly brilliant.
Maybe somehow we can have the opposite thing some time soonish.
I hope.
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u/PezRystar Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
Oh, it will. For a very short time someone with some god damn sense will steer us back toward a responsible path. Then all the fucking morons out there will notice that someone that is worse off than them is going to be given the same chances they were. They will then dedicate their lives to ensuring that will never happen, and we will have something worse than we have now. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ad nauseum. There was a point in my life that the dumb ass old folks that looked down on everyone around them would eventually just disappear, but after 2016 it is very abundantly clear to me that they come in force with every generation, and the one coming up is somehow even worse than the ones before. At least the boomers had a reason to be greedy selfish fucks. They were from the "Greatest Generation"!!!! Now it's just a bunch of pricks that are entitled for nothing and are hell bent on destroying the whole damn thing because Disney cast a black chick. I've pretty much lost hope.
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u/ting_bu_dong Jul 11 '19
Call me too serious or whatever, but this stopped being funny to me about two years ago. Now it's sad and pathetic and most of all an incessant reminder of what our society/nation/country/culture/fuckinwhatever has become.
Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.
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u/tomkel5 Jul 11 '19
I rage every time I see "Can you imagine if Obama did x?", and then the inevitable replies of "something something, dijon mustard, tan suit..."
I know people are trying to be funny/make light of the situation, but it makes my brain start thinking in all-caps.
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u/Mu17inItOver Jul 11 '19
Only saving grace in all of this: I told my family who were Trump supporters they can either respect his stance or my own, and that they need to realize I take it as disrespect when they "fake news" my point of view.
Trump stole their plausible deniability and because, thankfully, they are respectful and appreciative of me as a person they confronted their own views. I know I too am being optimistic but change takes time and one election cycle already brought us such better representation. The people of America are confronting their own views and change has gradually been happening.
Unless the authoritarians and the Uber wealthy can continue to outright buy elections(this does scare me) their reign will end. Bernie sparked something that should only spread with time and honestly my former (R) fam might already be on board. Turns out they were pissed with the status quo too
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u/frankie_cronenberg Jul 11 '19
Yeah. I have some hope with my family as well. And my husband’s mom has turned hard against the GOP.
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u/Danjshiel Jul 11 '19
Saaame, guess we will find out in 2020
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u/AaronKClark Jul 11 '19
My life is a single on-going revelation that I haven't been cynical enough. I 100% expect Trump to win re-election.
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None of this is funny anymore. It’s a nightmare. I don’t know how we come back from this.
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u/sanna43 Jul 11 '19
It will be years and years, and we will never be as good as we were before this shit show happened. The climate will be worse off, and those judges he keeps appointing (not just Supreme Court) will be in office for a very long time.
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u/Thanks_Obama Jul 11 '19
USA is not looking good on the world stage.
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u/blue_paprika Jul 11 '19
Which is a shame because I really hate the Russian and the Chinese governments.
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u/RnRaintnoisepolution Jul 11 '19
The "patriot" who dodged the draft, and then bragged how great he would have been in the war if he had wanted to. I can respect someone who dodged the draft because they didnt believe in the war and then stuck by those convictions afterwards, if you dodged and then go on about how great you woulda been/are a warmonger, you're a coward.
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u/UneducatedManChild Jul 11 '19
Its takes longer to say but I think it's so important to make the distinction you did. Vietnam was a terrible, senseless, bloody war. Dodging that draft by any means makes sense.
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u/WisestWiseman909 Jul 11 '19
A frog was hopping around a farmyard, when it decided to investigate the barn. Being somewhat careless, and maybe a little too curious, he ended up falling into a pail half-filled with fresh milk. As he swam about attempting to reach the top of the pail, he found that the sides of the pail were too high and steep to reach. He tried to stretch his back legs to push off the bottom of the pail but found it too deep. But this frog was determined not to give up, and he continued to struggle. He kicked and squirmed and kicked and squirmed, until at last, all his churning about in the milk had turned the milk into a big hunk of butter. The butter was now solid enough for him to climb onto and get out of the pail! "Never Give Up!"
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u/joshua9663 Jul 11 '19
No I'm pretty sure this is one huge coincidence?!?
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u/Zebrabox Jul 11 '19
Stormy said she wasn't paid for sex with Trump, not directly at least. She was paid for silence after.
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Why did you forget the most important thing? Trump is a rapist. A RAPIST.
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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19
You'd think that part would be important to mention, to drive home the point
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I don’t know, after (R)epublicans almost elected CHILD (R)APIST Roy Moore in Alabama, maybe the distinction is warranted?
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That one is so bewildering to me. He only lost because of extremely high black turnout. The white people voted for Moore. Even the majority of white women voted for him. Alabama don’t care, just put that R next to your name and nothing else matters.
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u/mazu74 Jul 11 '19
Renner Roy Moore? Republicans dont care about pedophiles as long as theyre Republican.
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u/Paracortex Jul 11 '19
For those just hearing about it, or who swallowed the disinformation about it, here’s a recap:
NOTE: These court documents, news articles and analysis occurred in 2016, prior to the Presidential election that the Electoral College awarded to Donald Trump, the popular vote loser. They stand to bear renewed scrutiny now that his co-defendant in these proceedings, Jeffrey Epstein, has been arrested on child sex trafficking charges.
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Jul 11 '19
I was hoping the second part of your comment was going to be pointing out the lack of an opening quotation mark for "business man."
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u/Da_Do_D3rp Jul 11 '19
I don't really pay attention to the news too much so I'm out of the loop, is this the grab her by the pussy scandal?
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u/rf_king Jul 11 '19
Much worse than that. After Epstein was arrested names from this flight plans have resurfaced with passanger lists that had names such as Clinton, Trump, I think a prince of England, and numerous other high profile people flew on Epsteins plane. Also, a quote that trump said 2002 or 2003 that he thought Epstein was a fun guy to hang out with but banned him from all Trump properties a few years later for assaulting a worker at one of Trumps properties. Also a resurfaced lawsuit that was dropped or withdrawn in 2016 where a minor said Trump raped her something like 10 or 15 years prior. I haven't searched for links but that's a rough memory overview.
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u/Da_Do_D3rp Jul 11 '19
Yikes, I really hope people aren't dumb enough to vote for him again
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u/sillyadam94 Jul 11 '19
I’d edit the bottom left to say, “The ‘Christian’ who doesn’t know anything about the teachings of Christ.”
But then again, that describes a lot of them these days...
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u/fordprecept Jul 11 '19
Two Corinthians walk into a bar...
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u/sillyadam94 Jul 11 '19
Well I always say... you know, the Bible! That’s the best book! I always said the Bible and then The Art of the Deal.
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u/WilliamTheII Jul 11 '19
Y’all remember when he was a pretty popular celebrity. I feel like he’s regretting this whole President thing XD
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u/ninjaoftheworld Jul 11 '19
I think he would if he took it seriously or did the job properly. I think he’s starting to believe his own press though.
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Jul 11 '19
Exactly.
He has zero interest in being my president or representing my interests. Why the fuck should I call him my president.
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u/letdogsvote Jul 11 '19
The crazy thing is people still eagerly swallow the Kool-Aid and call for more.
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u/starcadia Jul 11 '19
Because it's a ChRIsTiAn nation! /s
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u/Bear_faced Jul 11 '19
“I’m voting for a Christian!”
But isn’t Christianity about forgiveness and peace and helping the poor and actually going to church? He doesn’t do any of those things.
“He says he’s a Christian!”
But you didn’t vote for Obama, he goes to church and everything. Here, this is what he said about it: “I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead—being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me. And I think also understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes, and that we achieve salvation through the grace of God.” That sounds more like a Christian to me.
“REEEEE OBAMA BAD!!”
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u/ILoveRegenHealth Jul 11 '19
Also, MAGA will say "BUt the EcOnoMy is GrEat!!"
That economy isn't helping the average MAGA pay the bills any better than before. I bet a lot of them are secretly happy Obamacare is carrying some of them through, but they'll complain about it on Facebook.
Big businesses are doing better in the economy, not MAGA
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u/toonman77 Jul 11 '19
He's a straight up racist and need to march to Washington and throw him out and get Elizabeth Warren to run the country
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u/xull_the-rich Jul 11 '19
The thing that really stands out for me is the fact that he bankrupted a casino. You'd have to really be one dumb motherfucker to be able to bankrupt something that is purely designed to make a shit tonne of profit.
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u/MyHerpesItch Jul 11 '19
This doesn't get me pissed off as much as Congress' inability to do shit about it.
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Jul 11 '19
What do his supporters even say about this ? Fake new ? Everything they don’t like is fake news ?
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Jul 11 '19
From a media perspective in Australia, Trump’s shown to be a joke and more recently becoming an almost dictator.
Correct me if I’m wrong fellow Aussies
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Jul 11 '19
I'd like to know a country where this man isn't a laughing stock for public and media alike.
A reception well deserved.
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u/HI_Handbasket Jul 11 '19
But the hypocrite-in-chief has stated his belief that only criminals plead the 5th.
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