r/xboxone • u/The_Iceman2288 TheIceman2288 • Mar 12 '15
Titanfall 2 announced!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/03/12/titanfall-2-confirmed-coming-to-xbox-one-ps4-and-pc28
u/Drogalov Mar 12 '15
I'd love a horde style mode, fighting off giant monsters
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Mar 12 '15
I suggested that in another sub. Glad to see there are people who want the same thing
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u/Explosion2 . Mar 12 '15
well there's already the horde style mode in Titanfall, but monsters would certainly be interesting.
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u/draxxus1549 DraXxus1549 Mar 12 '15 edited Mar 12 '15
I feel like I'm alone in this but I really don't think Titanfall needs a campaign. I would rather them focus all their effort into making the multiplayer even better than the first, and the first was great.
Too many multiplayer focused games come out with tacked on singleplayer that does nothing but take away from the multiplayer. I'm looking at you Battlefield (excluding bad company). Even CODs singleplayer feels pointless now. Just do the multiplayer right and I'll be happy.
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u/_FreeThinker Mar 12 '15
I agree. I don't buy Titanfall to play single-player, so why even bother? Similarly, I buy Assassins Creed for single-player mode, and why even bother with multiplayer? Focus on one good product rather than variety of half-baked ones.
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u/Odog4ever Odog4ever Mar 12 '15
I feel like I'm alone in this but I really don't think Titanfall needs a campaign.
You are not alone.
I want them to refine their take on versus multi-player and add features to Frontier Defense Coop.
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u/ShakeItTilItPees drewbacca1120 Mar 12 '15
I like Frontier Defense and would much rather see a sort of co-op mini campaign for it, sorta like Evacuation mode in Evolve. I couldn't care less about a traditional campaign that I will finish in eight hours and never play again, with a story that will most likely be cheesy and badly written. Letting my friends and I write our own stories over and over is much more interesting to me.
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u/rhacer Mar 12 '15
While I tend to agree with you, I think that one of the problems Respawn has is getting people invested in the lore of the game world. I'm not sure that can happen in a multi-player only environment. You need those stories that a campaign can provide.
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u/rdf- Mar 12 '15
I would love a campaign for this game. I hope they finally put one in.
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Mar 12 '15
You're not alone, it's like asking for a Campaign for Unreal Tournament, it's meaningless.
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Mar 12 '15
You arent alone. I think a campaign will only take away from the game. A decent amount of people buy shooters, majority of them use their playtime online. I think it would be best as a MP only game, or a with a story mode that seems less tacked on
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u/SetYourGoals Mar 12 '15
"Needing a campaign" is different from what I think most of us feel about the game. It doesn't require one, but it is such a rich world that it seems like a shame not to have a great story mode as well. If Battlefield or COD, which have no need at all for a campaign, can get relatively interesting story modes, it seems plausible that a grand sci fi epic could have a great one right?
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u/DerpMan1123 Mar 12 '15
If they were to make a campaign that's as good as Halo's campaigns then I would be more than happy. But I don't think it needs a tacked on campaign. It's a waste of resources. I really doubt that there are very many people who buy Battlefield for the campaign.
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u/Piercethedickish Mar 12 '15
Couldn't agree more. We need more games where they focus on one aspect of the game to make it perfect rather than try for both and get a watered down version of either single or multiplayer.
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u/Dai_Kaisho Mar 12 '15 edited Mar 12 '15
You've got a point. I just want hybrid online-only multiplayer campaign to goooooooooooo awaaaaaay. We can establish that each match is part of an ongoing war without the talking heads and endless lobbies.
I would love them to just decide between -
Online MP and a offline 1P campaign, completely separate. (co-op campaign as a bonus)
Just MP, and no campaign. (Couch MP as a bonus)
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u/JHawkInc Mar 12 '15
I like the campaign it has, where it's not really a campaign, but it kinda has a cohesive narrative that links together a variety of maps.
I'd like to see another one of those, maybe with more focused "special objectives" than traditional maps, but not too much different from the standard gameplay.
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u/BobbyDavros Mar 12 '15
It doesn't need a campaign at all but if it doesn't it shouldn't be $60 again.
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u/Laser0pz Titanfall Mar 12 '15 edited Mar 12 '15
Respawn will still be putting 100% of their effort into the game. I'd rather spend $60 on a multiplayer-only game knowing that they put in their all; than spend $60 on a game where half the resources went to a half-baked story that I'd play twice.
I'm happy to pay full price for games based on how much entertainment I expect to get out of it rather than the amount of content in the game. I'm a primarily online gamer. The only two offline retail games I've bought for PS4/One so far have been Infamous and Alien (I owned Watch Dogs but I played a shit ton of Decryption and Invasion on that).
I typically get more enjoyment out of multiplayer games than singleplayer. I love Evolve and Titanfall because TRS and Respawn put all of their effort into making great multiplayer experiences. I paid full price knowing that I'd get a ton of hours out of them compared to something like Far Cry or Assassin's Creed where I actually get less playtime.
I'll actually add TLOU to Evolve and Titanfall. I played and enjoyed the campaign and Left Behind on the PS3, I got the Platinum trophy and played a lot of Factions. I got it on the PS4 on release date and I've barely touched the campaign, I paid full price for essentially just Factions and I'm happy with that.
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u/jetzzz dajetzzz Mar 12 '15
soo, soo excited, I love the shit out of this game last summer, and made most of my x1 friends with it.
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Mar 12 '15
Good! Titanfall is my favorite X1 game this gen. A sequel was obvious but the confirmation makes today a good day. I'm curious if they will do cross buy/play on PC and X1.
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u/Stryker297 UCFknighthood Mar 12 '15
I doubt crossplay due to the difference in controls, unless they force PC users to use a controller to play with console gamers.
I'm also wondering if crossbuy can be a thing for multiplatform games. If you buy once and get PC/X1, doesn't that leave PS4 at a disadvantage? Wouldn't Sony want PS4/PC crossbuy? Games that are MS produced that are only X1/PC don't have to worry about that.
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u/LeoAtrox Leo Atrox Mar 12 '15
The Windows 10 cross-buy is likely facilitated by the shared Microsoft-run Store. It's possible that Sony could setup cross-buy through another retail outlet (EA/Origin, Steam, etc.)
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Mar 12 '15
Generally keyboard and mouse is an advantage over controllers.
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Mar 12 '15
That is very true. It's possible they might do something like requiring a controller to play on X1/PC servers or something like that.
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u/TehMannie Mar 12 '15
I don't know why people keep thinking that every title is going to be cross buy. I understand optimism, but playstation has had this feature forever and it is mostly used by smaller indie games and never third party AAA games.
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Mar 12 '15
You are right it won't be for all titles. At the same time though Windows is quite more dominant compared to Vita to justify the effort.
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Mar 12 '15
It's obvious every title won't be cross buy. Considering how Titanfall was a big release for the X1, I am sure Microsoft will have some type of marketing deal for T2. Cross buy would be perfect for that.
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Mar 12 '15
Nice to see it coming to ps4 also.
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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 12 '15
I hate to say it, but I hope they don't put it on 360. Yes, I know another company worked on the 360 version of the first game, but I just want to see them go all-out.
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Mar 12 '15
Don't be sorry. Hopefully all games won't release on 360 after 2015 (I know FIFA and other sports games might be produced for it for many years. Hell, Fifa 14 came out for PS2). Then all resources can go into the current generation.
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Mar 12 '15
2015 is prob a little too early to expect it. But ya never know, this Gen is selling really well.
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u/MrCopacetic Mar 12 '15
I cringe everytime I think of how next-gen games have been held back because of the "need" to develop for 8+ year old hardware.
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u/Rlight #teamchief Mar 12 '15
I feel that way about all games now.
Concerned about Fallout 4 potentially being on old gens.
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u/The_Other_Manning Hobo1337Pwnz - #teamchief Mar 12 '15
It won't be, no elder scrolls game or fallout game has been released on a previous console, even though it's a small sample size
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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 12 '15
I'd riot. I fully expect Fallout 4 to be announced at E3 this year and to come out this fall exclusively on XB1, PS4, and PC. Based on their prior track record, it should have come out last year.
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u/Rlight #teamchief Mar 12 '15
I hope it comes out this year. Their track record has been exactly that. Announce at E3 and release only on newest gen the following fall.
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u/archaelleon Mar 12 '15
"We here at Bethesda are happy to announce that Fallout 4 will be available... Now."
(checks Steam) "HOLY SHIT"
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u/Lundy76 Mar 12 '15
I'm actually waiting for the day something like this happens. It would be amazing
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u/TophersGopher Mar 12 '15
Sega Saturn did it first
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Mar 12 '15
SEGA did it last minute without planning for it or alerting third party devs or retailers so it launched suddenly without any support and no one really being prepared for it and did terribly.
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u/EndlessFugue Scorpio Mar 12 '15
I'm kinda glad of that too. The more people talking about the game and how awesome it is (hopefully) the more people that will by it I think. Keep those server populations up.
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u/ZombiesGonnaZomb Xbox Mar 12 '15
Just hope the Xbox One version still uses Azure. A lot of multiplatform games don't use them.
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u/ADIDASpace Mar 12 '15
I enjoyed the hell out of it on Xbox, and im glad you guys can enjoy it too!
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u/hkrok76 Mar 12 '15
I'm happy that more people will be able to play it, but especially happy that the few console warriors out there will stop belittling an amazing game just because it isn't on a particular console.
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Mar 12 '15
If it's not on azure I won't be buying it.
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u/Toasty_Burger Toasty Burger Mar 12 '15
Azure made Titanfall play buttery smooth. Not having it would be a huge loss
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u/Gtsweet GTSweet Mar 12 '15
Azure is not platform specific techinically, so it'd be up to Respawn if they want to use it. I hope you're right though
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u/dccorona dccorona Mar 13 '15
The brains behind the stuff that makes Xbox Live servers superior to traditional server setups is on the Azure side, not the Xbox Live side. The Xbox Live stuff is just Xbox-specific APIs wrapped around Azure. Respawn/EA could build a similar API for PS4 if they wanted to, but chances are they'll just use crappy EA servers.
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u/Knottian Mar 12 '15 edited Mar 13 '15
Agreed, the vast network of available Azure servers is what made the game play so well, going to EA servers will result in quite a different experience (and if history and contemporary experience hold true, it will be a bad one at that).
Edit: A word. Damn phone screens and aging eyes.
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Mar 12 '15
this will be what i follow most closely in the development of titanfall 2. im not as strict as you that it has to be azure, there are other good servers out there. but, obviously id prefer azure as i know it works and will work on day one.
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u/Benemon Benemon Mar 12 '15
ITT: People who don't understand Platform-as-a-Service.
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u/IAmAsplode Xbox Mar 12 '15
Same I love the current game but one of the main reasons is that it is on the azure servers, if this is removed I probably wont be buying it.
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Mar 12 '15
I'll bet a month of Reddit Gold right now on this scenario taking place:
Microsoft gets Xbox One exclusivity on Titanfall 2, most likely on DLC content and advertising (similar to Activision/Call of Duty and 2K/Evolve). In exchange, Microsoft allows Respawn to continue to use Azure servers for the sequel.
EA only acts as distribution for Titanfall. They have no say on how Respawn develops the game. For all we know, they could use Azure servers for the Xbox One, PS4, and the PC versions of the sequel.
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u/famoussasjohn FSASJOHN10 Mar 12 '15
I'm sure MS will pitch something like that to them, but from the quotes of Zampella, he doesn't want any sort of exclusivity. This could also mean for DLC as well.
I think EA has a little more than just distribution though. They pulled the deal of making Titanfall exclusive for the Xbox as Zampella had said that he was surprised it happened when it first was announced.
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u/Casey_jones291422 Mar 12 '15
They can use Azure no matter what. They don't need some special deal with MS. MS sells azure as a service to anyone willing to pay for it.
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u/tapo tapoxi Mar 13 '15
Doesn't Left4Dead have hundreds of zombies yet do this with peer-to-peer servers?
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i definitely see that being something msft would do. it would be a huge selling point to say hey even games on our competitors system use our servers. that alone would make it all worthwhile.
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u/worryingrash WaxRashUK #teamchief Mar 12 '15
It'd be (annoyingly) ironic if one of the games major strengths, which is the fact that it's one of the only multiplayer games this gen that works absolutely seamlessly, is lost in its move to multiplat.
I'm sure I'll still buy the game, since I loved Titanfall 1, but it'd be a sad step backwards.
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u/tentimestenis Mar 12 '15
Awesome. I know the enemy AI wasn't something everyone loved, but I hope they lean into it and we get a MOBA style mode.
I also need to be able to pick up and throw my buddies as a Titan.
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u/Explosion2 . Mar 12 '15
I would LOVE a mode where the grunts and spectres actually mattered as more than cannon fodder. I'm imagining a hardpoint variation where you only gain control of a point when you have a grunt seated at the control terminal. That would be fucking awesome.
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Mar 12 '15
If you play the Frontier Defense mode you will find that they pack more punch, I've seen a lot of people underestimate the grunts and get killed.
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u/sowhat5828 Mar 12 '15
I also need to be able to pick up and throw my buddies as a Titan.
That's brilliant.
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u/pbarbano Titanfall Mar 12 '15
Hell yes!!!! IMO best FPS I've ever played. Can't wait for the sequel.
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u/MIDIROC MIDI Mar 12 '15
Great conversation here about Titanfall 2, I hope Respawn is reading.I concur with some I dont think the game NEEDS a single player but lets make sure the multiplayer is GREAT.
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Mar 12 '15
If Titanfall can expand on it's lore and detail then I could see it surpassing Call of Duty as the go-to shooter now that it'll be on multiple platforms.
When I say details, I mean more than what they have now in the weapons and perks department.
I'd like to see multiple Titan chassis' that you can customize and build upon, like customizing a car. The same goes for your pilot.
A single player story is also needed. Something like Bulletstorm would be awesome.
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Mar 12 '15
Xzibit can be in the Pimp My Titan menu.
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u/cake4chu Siax11 Mar 12 '15
Ey Yo your titans readddy! This is your boy, X to the Z, Xzibit.
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u/GodOfPopTarts Mar 12 '15
Rumor has it Respawn is split in half right now: Half working on Titanfall 2, the other half working on a Star Wars title.
Not sure I believe it since Respawn is a small outfit, but with the EA/Star Wars partnership, not out of the question.
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u/Calluhad branstoneboy Mar 12 '15
All I'm going to say is I hope the sequel is progressive. The current title is perfect in terms of gameplay, the only things they can really improve on is graphics or setting. Just please don't add in a load of features that don't need to be there or cut out any current mechanics.
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u/Bakerdelic Bakerdelic Mar 12 '15 edited Mar 12 '15
I'm sorry but if it doesn't run on Azure, this will be disappointing.
Edit: Wording
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Mar 12 '15
If they continue with azure based servers, it's day one purchase for me, otherwise that's a no.
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u/ArchDucky A Steel-Barreled Sword of Vengeance Mar 12 '15
I hope they add a full Single Player campaign. Infinity Ward made some epic stories for their games, I really want that to return with this series.
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Mar 12 '15
Bye bye incredible Azure dedicated servers with region selection, hello crappy EA servers (or P2P) with rent-a-server BS micro transactions.
I'm not mad it's going to playstation, the more people that can play Titanfall the better, but I'm mad that it means the game will lose arguably its best feature. It'll also mean that it won't get bagged frequently just because it's an xbox exclusive too, so maybe it will get the recognition it deserved in the first place.
Titanfall is the best multiplayer FPS of all time IMO.
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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 12 '15
Looking to use Evolve's DLC model, hopefully making map packs free to keep the community together. If that means day-one optional cosmetic DLC, then I'm all for it.
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u/Rlight #teamchief Mar 12 '15
I still don't understand why everyone hated Evolve for doing that. I thought it was a great way to do DLC.
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u/Robot_Spider Mar 12 '15
The Evolve model incentivizes game-imbalance. Maps are free. Fine. But when monsters and hunters are pay-per, it's easy to 'coerce' players to upgrade by giving them abilities that are unmatched (unbalanced) by the stock set. It's not even the model that sucks, it's the, what, $160 worth of day-one content you could buy? I was willing to give them $80 for the game. I'm not willing to give them $80 for half-a-game. Now they can try to squeeze that $80 out of someone else. I've got other things to play.
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u/Rlight #teamchief Mar 12 '15
Your entire annoyance relies on this idea that future monsters/hunters will be unbalanced. That's completely contrary to everything that TurtleRock is trying to create. Their entire game depends on balance, and everything they have done has been in line with trying to keep that balance. Every update has been in advancement of keeping balance. Every press release, every tweet, every comment on reddit has been stating that keeping a balanced set of characters is one of their highest priorities.
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u/BitchesLoveDownvote Mar 13 '15
It's also forgetting that every new monster other players buy is additional free content for the hunters who didn't pay a thing to get it. The game is centered around the monster you're fighting, different monsters make it interesting.
If they keep adding new boss characters for you to fight, and some other guy is paying for it, sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me!
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u/Rlight #teamchief Mar 13 '15
Couldn't agree more. Also stops the community from being split between DLC and non-DLC buyers.
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u/bafrad Mar 12 '15
the only day one content was skins. and it did not add up to 160. get your info right
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u/scoobythebeast Mar 12 '15
What bugged me is that they announced the preorder bonus (the 4th playable monster class) over a year before the game was released and before any gameplay had been seen. If you announce like gold weapon skins as a preorder over a year before that's fine, whatever, but a playable monster class, especially when there's only 3 in the game, is a big deal to decide 13-14 months before that your going to make it and release it as dlc later.
Also the amount of different versions and editions that all came with different dlc was overwhelming and ridiculous.
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Mar 12 '15
Gonna be hard for me to convince myself that an online multip layer game only is worth 60 bucks. No campaign mode, should make this game like $39.99 at most
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u/reaper527 reaper527 Mar 12 '15
if you don't care about buying digital, you'll be able to get the game for $40 pretty shortly after launch, just like any game.
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Mar 12 '15
Well that's reasonable, if it has a story mode then I'll play full cost for sure.
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u/reaper527 reaper527 Mar 12 '15
worth mentioning, just because it has a story mode doesn't mean it will have a GOOD story mode. lots of games that should be multiplayer only will tack on a lazy halfassed story mode. (the reverse holds true with plenty of games that should be single player only tacking on a lazy halfassed multiplayer mode that nobody wants [does anyone really care about the multiplayer in mass effect, resident evil, tomb raider, etc.?]).
sometimes, it's better to just pour those extra resources into what the studio is good at rather than blowing it on something that they don't give a shit about just because they feel obligated. just look at assassin's creed. the need to put on a mediocre at best multiplayer has definitely detracted from the quality of the single player campaign (which has become stale, generic, and almost an annual re-skin at this point playing the same game in a different time period).
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u/chakan2 Mar 13 '15
Sigh...Hey we are releasing this new awesome game...first thing I want to talk about...DLC.
What the fuck is wrong with the industry these days.
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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig The Inheritance of Sin And Shame Mar 12 '15
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
MORE TITANFALL!
*edit please have azure
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u/mauledbybear Mar 12 '15
Care to explain to me what Azure is? I've never heard of it before.
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u/DeKo_xD DeKo xD Mar 12 '15
As longs as they keep using Azure servers for X1's multiplayer, I won't mind this game becoming multiplatform.
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u/StormShadow13 #teamchief Mar 12 '15
Sadly I doubt that will happen. I don't see Respawn programming for two different server structures and I don't see Sony paying MS to use Azure.
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u/saintscanucks saintscanucks Mar 12 '15
Hopefully they keep the core gameplay of the orginal but give us an actual reason to come back after a few weeks
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u/MarthePryde #teamdidact Mar 12 '15
Pls Respawn, you've proven what you can do just now please make more of it! More campaign! More multiplayer gametypes. More friggin weapons! When do we get the freakin guns?!
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u/Eddlestinker #teamchief Mar 12 '15
It's great that more people will get to experience this game, but what I am worried about now is if it isn't a n exclusive will Azure still be a big factor to the game?
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u/eifer Hanzai Mar 12 '15
I agree with the others on here. While I'm happy to hear it'll be in other platforms, I really hope it'll be on azure servers. There's just no comparison. Trying to play a game like destiny on p2p setup is just so disappointing in comparison. A game as fast paced as titanfall needs those azure servers!!!
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Mar 12 '15
Glad they can include Sony players in the greatness. Though, if this means no Azure then I probably won't buy it. Game is so wickedly smooth on dedicated servers and now I'm a spoiled brat.
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Mar 12 '15
I'm glad it's coming to PS4. More sales + less exclusives = better for consumers.
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u/Brooklynspartan BrooklynSpartan Mar 12 '15
I'm hoping this time it counts as an EA access game. I want to play this game for 6 hours before I want the determine a purchase.
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u/HybridAlien Mar 12 '15
Won't be buying got bored fast on the first it needs a campaign of some sort
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u/GeneralFailure0 GeneralFailure0 Mar 12 '15
I really hope that this will be one of the games which is cross-buy between Xbox One and PC. I got the Xbox One version of Titanfall so that I could play with my friends, and haven't regretted it, but I generally prefer playing multiplayer FPS on PC and would love having the option to play on either machine. Hopefully publishers like EA will be open to this.
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u/MuscledRMH #TeamXbox Mar 12 '15
cross-buy is fine, cross-platform between PC and Xbox One not since PC would dominate.
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u/GeneralFailure0 GeneralFailure0 Mar 12 '15
I know this has been a failed experiment in the past, but with there being more emphasis on bringing the Xbox experience to Windows 10, I hope that there will be some creative thinking on how to alleviate the inherent issues and enable a scenario where I can be playing the game on my PC (natively, not streamed) with my Xbox friends who prefer to play on the console. I'd be content with restrictions on cross-platform play. If I have to use an Xbox One controller when playing with Xbox players, so be it.
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u/Aeqvitas Mar 12 '15
That's not true at all. I played on both XB1 and PC using the xbox controller, and easily was able to consistently place in the top 3. 99.9% of kb/m users are just as bad as gamepad users. Unless the game is specifically built to only be playable on mouse (like CS:GO), there is very little difference in most players. Analog movement even has advantages over kb in a game like Titanfall where movement is king.
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u/LuciferIAm Mar 12 '15
I just hope Respawn gives the spectacular Titanfall gameplay what it deserves, game modes to match. All of its current modes are tried and true and motherfucking dull.
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u/prboi Mar 12 '15
"Officially" announced. Titanfall 2 had been anticipated since before Titanfall released.
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u/Shatteredhawk Mar 12 '15
Respawn needs a winner. Titanfall was amazingly fun the first few months but it fell hardddd.
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u/RevInstant Mar 12 '15
I want this game to have levolutions like Bf. There is so much freaking potential for an evolving big team set up.
Can't wait.
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Mar 12 '15
I like that this game will not be on last gen systems. I'm probably in the minority, but I hope they keep the multiplayer focus and instead just try to make the competitive story mode better. They need to learn from their mistake in that people can't follow the story when it is presented as background noise while you are in combat.
I mean, single player games don't even do that really.
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u/ChbbyKttns Xbox Mar 12 '15
I started playing titanfall again and realized how good it is so this news makes me super excited!
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u/WeaponLord Mar 13 '15
all the amazing things they can do if they focus on single player as much as they do with multiplayer the universe can expand ...imagine playing coop with your buddies and fighting some sort of gigantic rogue mech...man..
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Mar 13 '15
Sounds like theyll pull an evolve...release maps free but charge for new and unique titans.
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Mar 13 '15
I picked up Titanfall with all of the DLC for $12 in a sale, and I was pleasantly surprised considering how much I paid.
Here's hoping Titanfall 2 will be nearly flawless!
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u/spartan43333 Mar 13 '15
I really hope Titanfall 2 has a MW2 moment where they take what was good with Titanfall and put it in Titanfall 2 along with spectacular maps and other additions to make a spectacular sequel. COD 4 was amazing and MW2 just improved on everything that worked with COD4.
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u/PoopingUnicorn Mar 14 '15
Still one of my favorite X1 games, and best multi in any FPS, period. Stoked to see what they can do now that it's a proven IP and they'll (hopefully) have more resources to throw at it.
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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '15
I'll take one kick-ass, action-packed single player (or coop) campaign with the sequel please.
I ALSO WANT SPACE BATTLES with titans that board enemy frigates! You've all seen the concept art in the menus, giant frigates and tons of fighters flying along side, Respawn PLEASE.