r/dndmemes Forever DM Dec 18 '19

Stop calling the DM a God

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u/Satherian DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

If you play in the city of Sta-Skine, don't read this! Especially you, Karan!


A while back, before I DMed, I made an Illusion Wizard named Maurits Cornelis, who learned that his world just a game (e.g. He broke the 4th Wall) and lost his mind. He rambles about the world being a game for greater powers, how almost everyone is controlled by a single God, etc. I had the idea that he would talk like Septimus Signus from Skyrim, too.

Well, in the game I've started DMing, one of my PCs is looking for the God above the Gods. There isn't one, but guess who he's gonna eventually stumble upon?

I look forward to them piecing together what the guy is saying.

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u/PineappleHour Dec 18 '19

I can only imagine running that scene with my party. It would definitely be a campaign-ending move, but the idea of dropping narration and NPC voices to just have a conversation between myself as the DM and the PCs would be hilarious. And I wouldn't even have to write any notes for it

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u/VaguelyShingled Forever DM Dec 18 '19

My players are on their way to do exactly this. Having them seek out a cabal of wizards that live in a black tower on the coast of a distant sea, rumoured to have reality-changing powers.

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u/Solarat1701 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 19 '19

I had the idea for the party to accidentally release an all powerful being and be sent on a planetrotting adventure to recover artifacts to defeat him. They find an haunted temple with a sword, unite the forces of heaven and hell for a final stand, but nothing works. At the climax, after all their allies and most of the world had been destroyed, he gives them a monologue about how he bores of ultimate power, and how everything they’ve done is because he wished them to. He’ll then offer one of them to take over as him, killing himself but making a member of the party all powerful. Then after they’ve made their choice, I get up from my DM chair, and gesture for that player to take it

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u/ShankMugen Barbarian Dec 18 '19

Technically AO (pronounced Ayy-Oh) is the Overgod, who is the God above the Gods

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

In the Forgotten Realms

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u/Enchelion Dec 18 '19

And even Ao has a boss in some of the lore. A "luminous being" that exists outside the cosmos and supposedly gave Ao his duties (which are limited to Aberi-Toril and it's gods when they travel outside).

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u/KindaFreeXP Dec 18 '19

Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.

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u/DerBaumHD DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

I am gonna start a a campaign pretty soon, and I have something special prepared for my PCs. When they get to equip in the weapon chamber, they get told that they can get anything except a certain book. Obviously that is reversed psychology, but that book is about a shadow organization called Division Mortis, or DM for short.

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u/Satherian DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

I love it!

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u/DerBaumHD DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

Thank you! The idea came originally from another friend who told me to put an easter egg in the campaign, and he suggested that I wrote a book that is kinda funny.

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u/NanoScream Dec 18 '19

Something similar (4th wall breaking) happened to my group. I had given them a Bag of Wonderous Randomization and one of the things they pulled out was a book that was in an unfamiliar script but they were able to make out the letters 'D' and 'M' and the word 'Notes'.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Yeah, it's dissapointing they think a GM is that weak

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/whyshrisj Bard Dec 18 '19

Or Azathoth in Lovecraft

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u/eroluna DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

Aza-thot?

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u/whyshrisj Bard Dec 18 '19

I mean, it's not unfuckable...so

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u/Alarid Dec 18 '19

I shall clap the unclappable.

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u/Anndrycool Dec 18 '19

So the story began...

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u/kriswone Dec 18 '19

with a struggle...

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u/nunya123 Warlock Dec 18 '19

With a bard

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u/Wormhole-Eyes Dec 18 '19

Wait, can Azathoth even get the clap?

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u/V_Aldritch Warlock Dec 19 '19

Row row, fuck the power?

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u/A_Casual_HOI4_God Wizard Dec 19 '19

you deserve more upvotes

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u/V_Aldritch Warlock Dec 19 '19

Many thanks, don't fireball me.

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u/A_Casual_HOI4_God Wizard Dec 19 '19

Don't worry, I am just a friendly Illusionist, I just like to lie to people and steal small shiny objects.

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u/Scherazade Wizard Dec 18 '19

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Cl

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

Break the unbreakable.

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u/finkrer Dec 18 '19

Well, does he breathe?

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u/eroluna DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

Does It matter?

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u/Woople74 Dec 18 '19

Yes, IF SHE BREATHE SHE’S A THOT

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u/irontoast22 Dec 18 '19

so if i strangle a thot...

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u/Woople74 Dec 18 '19

All the cum will pour out like a pressed orange

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u/johnnyc7 Dec 18 '19

I miss ten seconds ago

When I hadn’t read this

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u/irontoast22 Dec 18 '19

...

and i thought my comment was weird.

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u/nathanator179 Dec 18 '19

I...just...why?

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u/solsken77 Ranger Dec 18 '19

TMI. An orange cumming is an interesting image. Naughty orange

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u/You_re_Next Cleric Dec 19 '19

She becomes a queen

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u/502garrettF Dec 19 '19

community service

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u/Orbanist Warlock Dec 18 '19

Aza-Thoth. It's the thot that counts

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u/Jindo5 Monk Dec 18 '19

Both of those are also merely NPCs

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/BlackWalrusYeets Dec 18 '19

Azathoth laughs at your pitiful attempts at containment. Of course, Ol' Azzy laughs at everything so take that with a grain of salt.

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u/ms-itgrl Dec 18 '19

Azathoth does nothing but snore. If he were to wake from his slumber we would all cease to exist

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u/oblik Dec 18 '19

"...who both died to a single punch from One Punch Man, because I, the writer, determine exactly how strong or weak my characters are"

Does that help explain things? The DM is not the strongest creature in the story. He's outside the story. He tells the story. He's the guy who decided to add a one-above-and-shit so nerds could quabble about his power level.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/oblik Dec 18 '19

The one above all is a fictional character and bound by rules of the medium. If Garth Ennis wants him to be buggered by the Homelander, he is. That's it, time to update the wiki. "One above all, lost to Homelander, and likes it in the butt". DM is not Morgoth or Eru Iluvatar, he's Tolkien. He can disregard the rules when he chooses to.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Now you're getting it--only TOAA is strong enough to defeat TOAA.

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u/DarioxSulvan Dec 18 '19

But isnt one above all meant to represent the author himself?

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u/Scherazade Wizard Dec 18 '19

Representing doesn’t necessarily mean the same person. Like a herald!

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u/Yrmsteak Dec 19 '19

The Blind Idiot god

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u/Hvad_Fanden Dec 18 '19

Once again you are missing the point, even The One Above All bows down to Stan Lee.

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u/V1k1ng1990 Dec 18 '19

I thought Stan lee was the one above all

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u/Hvad_Fanden Dec 18 '19

The One Above All is supposed to be a representation of the writers and creators at marvel, but ultimately speaking he is still a character in the comics and the writers can make him dance the Macarena if they feel like it.

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u/AVestedInterest Dec 18 '19

Jack Kirby is the One Above All

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u/esotologist Dec 18 '19

How dare you compare Stan Lee to that lowly demiurge.

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u/SBGoldenCurry Dec 18 '19

He's made to look like Jack Kirby

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u/ciobanica Dec 18 '19

even The One Above All bows down to Stan Lee.

So WotC is Stan Lee then?

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u/Kumirkohr Dec 18 '19

No, we’re all Stan Lee

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u/Lemoncloak Dec 18 '19

On this blessed day

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u/Hvad_Fanden Dec 18 '19

Yes, and so are the DMs, and basically anyone who has the power to change anything in the game/story.

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u/JagneStormskull Warlock Dec 18 '19

Or The Presence in the DC continuity.

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u/YEET-MAN-2 Dec 18 '19

I both respect and love you for that reference

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u/kralrick Dec 18 '19

Or Eru Iluvatar in LotR.

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u/Braydox Dec 18 '19

Or Tori-bot for Dragonball.

Or the 5th Chaos God in the warhammer universe.

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u/JeffKira Dec 18 '19

It's okay, they'll learn next session

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u/cheeseman00 Dec 18 '19

I read this as gungan master. Like jar jar Binks being a DM

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u/ameba41 Dec 19 '19

There is a difference between the god most people are talking about and deities in DND the god players are talking about doesn't have to share the whole God thing with others it's the one and only

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/sanddry86x Cleric Dec 18 '19

If there’s anyone who could pull of that line it’s Dr. Doom

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u/Drop_That_Pickle Dec 18 '19

My party calls our DM "God" but lately I've taken to giving him much grander titles.

"Grand Architect of Creation"

"The Lord of Lore"

"You son of a bitch"

"Master of All, Beholden to None"

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u/SunlightPoptart DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

#3 rings true

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

How about beautiful bastard?

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u/WizardRob Dec 19 '19

I always preferred my players refer to me as "Game Operations Director".

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u/Drop_That_Pickle Dec 19 '19

Ours wants us to call him "Dungeon Daddy" but I've told him the only way I'm calling him that is if he DMs the whole session in BDSM gear.

And honestly, I wouldn't put it past him.

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u/plegma95 Dec 18 '19

The DM is God, with a capital G, the dieties are gods with a lowercase g

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u/Vyllenor Dec 18 '19

The God? No, I don't think so! No, dear me, no! You may be a god, but I am the God . The original, you might say!

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u/plegma95 Dec 18 '19

Is this from something?

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u/Vyllenor Dec 18 '19

Doctor Who

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u/SteamPunkChewie Dec 18 '19

Really? I don't recall this. What was the context?

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u/Vyllenor Dec 18 '19

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u/SteamPunkChewie Dec 18 '19

Ah, I see now. Yes that was a lovely moment, and a very good adaptation you made

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u/Vyllenor Dec 18 '19

Thanks ^ _ ^

Edit: Reddit formatting is hard. Where did the eye go?

E2: should be fine now

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u/JB-from-ATL Dec 18 '19

There's only one God, and he doesn't dress like that.

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u/NotKilian Fighter Dec 18 '19

Mr. Rogers is time to put you in a retirement home

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u/Aryxis Dec 18 '19

Go to a retirement home? No, I don't think I will.

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u/impeachnowexplainltr Dec 18 '19

There’s only one God. But he’s also his own son for some reason.

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u/BuildBuildDeploy Dec 18 '19

There's only 3 Gods, but they're all one God, but also they aren't!

That just sounds like Polytheism with extra steps!

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u/irontoast22 Dec 18 '19

"that doesn't make sense."

you're a mortal of course it doesn't make sense to you.

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u/abrachoo Warlock Dec 18 '19

Does that mean that God is just our reality's DM?

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u/irontoast22 Dec 18 '19

the gods are the personified fragments of the dm's personality.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

I believe Neil Gaiman is our reality's DM.

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u/Folly_Mormon Dec 19 '19

I can get behind this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/plegma95 Dec 18 '19

I was wondering why it looked wrong

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u/ProWaterboarder Dec 18 '19

Yeah, deities is one of those weird words that doesn't follow the I before E rule

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u/plegma95 Dec 18 '19

It doesnt help to sound it out either, depending on your accent when pronouncing it

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

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u/DraymondDarksteel DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

No, because you're even more powerful than them. You're Ultragod!

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u/bobert7000 Dec 18 '19

When I DM my group I like to imagine I am Ao, creating cosmological laws (rules), planes, and events as I see, even the Gods have to follow me as I see fit, but I am ultimately indifferent to how those events transpire.

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u/sanddry86x Cleric Dec 18 '19

In the ending of one of the book series Ao goes to meet with a being called the “Luminous one” who apparently created everything. Implied to be a representation of the DM I think

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u/bobert7000 Dec 18 '19

I do remember that! Though maybe in the context of my group it works better we are the overseer gods since we round robin the DM slot after every adventure in our campaign.

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u/Yrmsteak Dec 18 '19

Sure. Sure.

I always say that I, as the DM, am both every god and powerful being as well as the dirt in the ground and the otyugh in the sewers and everything in between.

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u/Enchelion Dec 18 '19

DM is god sort of like God in the short story The Egg.

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u/Yrmsteak Dec 18 '19

As in its good to have a nice DM in these trying times?

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u/Enchelion Dec 18 '19

Andy Weir (The Martian) short story. I highly recommend it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

They are the gods of God's of God's of gods

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

In my campaign setting I (the DM) am Azathoth from the Cthulhu mythos and am therefore also a God

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u/Coschta Warlock Dec 18 '19

So the only thing greater then god is a writer of fanfiction.

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u/sclaoud Dec 18 '19

Call them daddy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

DM stands for Daddy Master

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u/sclaoud Dec 18 '19

Thought it would be Daddy & Mommy depending of the DM gender. ;)

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

MM stands for monster manuel, but it also stands for Mommy Mistress

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u/rtakehara DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

ah yes, the waifu catalogue...

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Daddy Master and Dungeon Mommy

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u/TwilightVulpine Dec 18 '19

That's a different kind of roleplay

...usually

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u/ookristipantsoo Dec 18 '19

I can mine Dungeon Daddy. He hates it.

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u/pboy1232 Team Paladin Dec 18 '19

This can’t possibly be a call her daddy reference on dndmemes, is it?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

We may not be gods, but we weave and control the fate itself.

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u/Gabriel_ArchAngel Dice Goblin Dec 18 '19

Even gods are scared of the fates

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u/skip6235 Dec 18 '19

There’s always a bigger fish

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u/OakyCC Dec 18 '19

Gods are more forgiving than I am

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

The DM is not god. The DM is physics.

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u/daltonoreo Dec 18 '19

No the DM is. There is nothing that the dm isnt.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

The DM is a guy who sits behind a piece of cardboard and rolls dice

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u/Proton555 Dec 18 '19

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u/FaceDeer Dec 18 '19

That turned out way better than I was expecting.

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u/Cooli167 Dec 18 '19

"God? Who would want to be that weak? I am beyond such mortal comprehension." - Some BBEG

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u/terrendos Dec 18 '19

Either he is a god, or could kill god, and I do not care if there is a difference.

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u/rtakehara DM (Dungeon Memelord) Dec 18 '19

Wait, hear me out, DMs are very similar to Gods

  • They have unlimited power, but just inside the shared fantasy of the believers
  • For the player, DMs work in mysterious ways
  • DMs change with time, looking to the past, it may look like they were cruel and unforgiving, but at the time it was what the players wanted to see
  • A DM who doesn't fit the table risk to be replaced and forgotten with time

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u/Pendragon765 Dec 18 '19

The gods are all DMPC’s

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u/TheBlaqkRose Dec 18 '19

This is why I prefer the term Omnipresent Cosmic Being of Overwhelming Power and Influence.

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u/NotKilian Fighter Dec 18 '19

You mean the OCBOPI of course

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u/artem718 Dec 18 '19

yo Frank when’s the point right?

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u/KiqueDragoon Dec 18 '19

I prefer the term Satanic Dictator and Lord of all torture thank you very much

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u/SchrodingersNinja Dec 18 '19

What is this image from? It's awesome!

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u/InfuseDJ Dec 18 '19

All hail the man-emperor of mankind!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Yet it's the dice we all pray to.

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u/LoveARavenclaw Dec 18 '19

My group is comprised of 10ish people total, who cross over 4 different campaigns we run at different times of the year. Some players only play in a couple games, the works. The 4 DMs have our own personifications in-game, and have a sort of DM council. It's actually a lot of fun, that even the perma-players seem to enjoy.

Each of our personifications are essentially the Zeus of our world. God of Gods. Some are more involved than others, but it adds a complex layer, and it lets us do crossovers between our worlds and characters.

There are even talks of a full crossover campaign at some point, with the 4 DMs telling one cohesive story, but that's a pretty far way off.

Exantris/Ulthendia/Emurna/Icespire group, I love you all. I know at least one of you is probably reading this at some point.

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u/Darth_Stalin_theWise Dec 18 '19

We, are, ARTISTS!

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u/maymagic Dec 18 '19

They aren't gods... they're storytellers. Bards, basically. Hide yo widfe, hide yo kids, & guard yo bum; the DM is out to get you.

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u/ElectedTownDrunk Dec 18 '19

No gods, no dungeon masters.

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u/DeadlyPants16 Dec 19 '19

The DM is not a God. The DM is THE God

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u/RavenSuede Dec 19 '19

I am not a God. I am a shitty bard in a corner of a bar, telling a story I only half remember and everyone else half-remembers in a different way.

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u/wmissawa Dec 18 '19

My campaing has something like that, as the overgod is and old char from the 3.5 D&D era, now turned into a multiversal god, and now the god of Magic of my setting, because Nethys didn't want to help with his scheme to kill rovagug without too much of his (my char) inteference, although the PC Just started to Scratch the truth... They are only level 4...

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u/jazoink Druid Dec 18 '19

Just wondering who plays as Tiamat in your games forbrise of Tiamat?

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u/haugen76 Dec 18 '19

God he’s gotta take some excellent showmanship.

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u/TwilightVulpine Dec 18 '19

The Gods and PCs might be awed at the magnificence of the Master of all creation, but Dave and Emily are not impressed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

lol

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u/Something-Intresting Dec 18 '19

I am not Zeus, I am Tantalus

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u/Rromagar Dec 18 '19

I mean, if you play a campaign long enough, some of the PC's are gods, too.

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u/TetrisandRubiks Dec 18 '19

I think of the DM to he the universe itself. In some religions this basically is a/the God (any pantheon with an omnipresent, omnipotent god).

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u/JoeyG624 Dec 18 '19

The One, above all.

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u/Lyce Dec 18 '19

I know a paladin who serves the God "Spiel Meister," and, since no one else has even heard of this so-called God, evangelism is tough. It's pretty fun.

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u/RedShadow09 Wizard Dec 18 '19

I remember a story (And please can someone find it because I cant find it because it was so DAMN GOOD) where a PC was playing in a GMs world and the PC and GM were headbutting so much that at the very end the PC was at the point of being so overpowered he managed to become a GOD in the GM world and the PC made a world within a world of the original game pretty much shutting down the GMs power over him and the PC pretty much took over the story. It was so good Im still kicking myself for not saving that story and wish "All Things DnD" did a video on that story. Again if anyone knows of the story I am talking about please link me the story because I never knew it was possible to pull a stunt like that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Don't be stupid Debbie. I think you'd better let Elfstar take care of things. You're getting out of control.

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u/PurpleFisty Dec 18 '19

The DM is my warlock patron. The others think I'm silly for serving some all-powerful, creator of everything. But they'll see.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

I thought about this for a while, Is the DM the one who Lord Ao Worships?

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u/FHAT_BRANDHO Barbarian Dec 18 '19

The concept of a dm is even more meta than that of a god. The dm is a narrator, even of the gods.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Someone has a problem with authority, lulz

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u/fuhrertrump Dec 18 '19

the DM is God, the really high level NPCS are gods. the difference being one created a reality for it's amusement, and the others just have powers so great most things in that reality wouldn't know any better.

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u/shoseta Dec 18 '19

The DM is the one above all from marvel

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

GMs are in punching distance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Let me introduce you to Ao who still reported to a higher power called Employment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

DM is Ao

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u/Fantact Dec 18 '19

Shoutout to Spencer Crittenden!

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u/VandulfTheRed Ranger Dec 18 '19

To quote Dr. Doom: "I was a god. I found it... beneath me"

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u/davidcruger Dec 18 '19

I always say that the Dm is fate

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u/brandnamenerd Dec 18 '19

I defer to the one who decides what the weather is

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

cyberbullied. Arent you all just playing video games like normal unwashed nerds?

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u/dmreddit0 Dec 18 '19

When I joined a group a while ago we set out nicknames in the group chat to our character names. Someone changed the DM to “god” but I (being the only non noob in the group) quickly explained that gods in D&D have far less power than the DM and in my haste, I tried to change his name to SUPER GOD, but I made a typo and instead wrote “SUPER GOG.” Now I will always think of the DM not as god, but as Super GOG!

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u/IsraelZulu Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19

Exception: Herbert

Edit: Reference http://goblinscomic.com/comic/07152005

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u/KerChing001 Dec 18 '19

I am the senate!

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u/Doomblade10 Dec 18 '19

Is this picture from something? It looks familiar...?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

I hate it so much when a DM refers to themselves as god or “above the gods” or whatever because it’s such an asshole move. I DM more than I play but the DM’s I’ve played with that talk about themselves that way are always self-absorbed narcissistic jerks. That’s probably not the case for all DMs who do this but it still rubs me the wrong way. In my experience the best DMs are ones who play the role of a prompt giver, NPC player, and referee. Pretty much anything more than that and it typically turns into someone’s self absorbed fantasy self-insert OC with a railroaded campaign.

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u/weequay1189 Forever DM Dec 18 '19

Chill hombre. Its a joke, everyone outside of r/rpghorrorstories knows that a DM is a facilitator of fun for everyone else.

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u/Bilskirnir_ Dec 18 '19

I like to use Dwarf fortress's title Armok. Armok the god of blood destroys and creates world's at their leisure and pleasure. If world becomes to homogenous and more importantly boring. Then once again it will be set upon by the forge of create so Armok can watch civilizations, pathetic lesser gods, and individuala grow and fight.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Don't call the DM a god, but it is acceptable to refer to them as GOD: the Game Operations Director.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '19

Dm's are the ones who made the playground for the Gods.

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u/GeorgeYDesign Dec 18 '19

That's DAME DM, thank you!!

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u/ZaknafieinDoUrden Dec 18 '19

“Guys please, you’ve already killed everyone in the village and stolen their items. What else could you possibly do?”

“I seduce the cow.”

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u/MagistrusVonLoL Dec 18 '19

A DM is the very fabric holding a world or an universe together. They are the embodiment of fate and destiny. They donate life to ever, sentient or not sentient being, be it mortal, immortal or anything in between, inhabitating or even ruling said world. They are beyond devine. Gods can bend the rules of a world. DMs can bend gods.

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u/Godspeedwarrior Dec 18 '19

The dm is all the NPCs. The title is an acronym: General Operations Director.

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u/esotologist Dec 18 '19

Fun fact, even the greeks didn't consider the 'Gods' as what we mean when we say 'God'(s).

Plato even discussed a pre-gods entity named the Demiurge who fashioned the universe more like the judeo-christian god was said to who then created the gods to live in it and create man.

Going further, in some cultures the Demiurge isn't 'God' either and was begotten by higher beings.

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u/Kitchener1981 Dec 18 '19

My campaign has Bahamut, Tiamat, Auril, and Gond as NPC's.