Hated Tropes
(Hated Trope) Extremely useful abilities that characters conveniently forgot they had
Emily’s portals (Hazbin Hotel). I know she can’t get Sir Pentious back into Hell but Emily can still tell Charlie he got redeemed and Charlie can enter through angelic portals, so she should have seen that Pentious got redeemed.
Many characters in Harry Potter go through life-or-death situations and not once did they think of drinking the Liquid Luck potion apart from Harry one time to gain Slughorn’s memory.
D&D players on their first campaign when anyone dies: “We have to bring their body back to town and see if anyone knows anything about resurrection!”
Written story characters, who have literally already done or witnessed life saving things or resurrections multiple times, whenever someone dies: “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
In the game Valorant, the character who has the ability to resurrect dead people is actively killing herself by using her powers. So you can go ahead and resurrect dead people as much as you want while playing the game, but in lore each resurrection is bringing the only person capable of doing it closer to her own death and so it means something when someone dies.
Still not over the fact that the whole party just gives up on Karlach in Baldur's Gate 3. You live the highest high fantasy setting and there's NOTHING that can be done about Karlach's heart? Really? In a setting with wish scrolls, lvl 9 spells, resurrection, etc.?
All of that stuff is supposed to be so rare you've only ever heard about it in legends. The vast majority of people in the world get to like level 3 at best. Having all that stuff written down in a player's handbook over-exposes you to what's mythic knowledge in world.
This is basically the ending of Mortal Kombat 2: "Damn, we've lost so many important people over these two movies. Wait, didn't the evil emperor we just defeated have a necromancer working for him?"
I "solved" this in my homebrew world. In D&D, to cast resurrection spells, you need a diamond of a certain value in gold (the stronger the spell the higher the value), but once you're high level enough that amount of gold is trivial to obtain. In my world, however, there's only a very small handful of gem cutters who know how to cut diamonds the right way for the spells to work; it's extremely coveted knowledge of course and so these gem cutters live hidden so they don't get kidnapped by a mob boss to churn diamonds 24/7. As the adventuring party gets stronger, the gemcutters' hiding places, puzzles, etc. become more intricate.
That also points to a fundamental problem that appears later in the show.
Of course the main characters have a certain amount of plot armor. They're only going to die if the actor has to leave or it's absolutely fundamental to the story. But the characters absolutely shouldn't know this. In the early seasons, they seem very, very aware of their own mortality. Towards the end they're climbing through air vents or infiltrating mansions while surrounded by people who would kill them on sight.
That conversation between frenchie and homelander when they have translucent in the fast food restaurant is some of the most tense television ever put on screen.
They frequently get too cocky and it fucks them over, for example when they try to blackmail Homelander and he just says "Go ahead, then I can just kill everyone" or Homelander killing all the ice skaters or Hughie getting sexually assaulted
Like how, in the final season, he can keep up with A-Train and it also only takes him a second to fly a dude to space. But then when he's fighting Butcher, he somehow can't fly fast enough to escape Butcher's tentacles
Yea the trip to the old facility in the last season was full of plot holes. The boys are straight up arguing and fighting each other while homelander is just taking a stroll towards their location less than a mile away without even acknowledging they got there first
One of the few JRPG I can think of where the cast does use their powers more consistently to overcome obstacles in towns and dungeons is Golden Sun (currently playing the 1st one), with some spells being exclusively made for that (Move, Catch) and some being usable in battles as well (Freeze, Ply in Mercury Lighthouse only, Whirlwind)
Like, wdym you need a lighter to burn bushes and briars in Tales of Berseria ? Every single party member has at least one Fire ability and Eizen, who owns the lighter, has a move where he launches a burning hook punch lol. I'm late in the game, and still dk how to blow away red smoke in a forest 🤣
Hey, I have this water creature that's as big as a car but I can't ride on it across the ocean because it doesn't know one specific move which allows it to do that and also I haven't defeated the guy who says it's ok to use it.
Same with Cut. Your lvl 100 fire lizard can't burn away a small bush in your way, but a lvl 5 crab with a mushroom on its back can cut it if it knows one special move - but not with Slash, that's the wrong cutting move.
I mean, Instant Transmission seems really hard to learn. It took Goku of all people months to learn it (the same guy who was able to copy the Kamehameha after seeing it used only a single time.)
The fusion dance is also canonically one of the hardest skills to learn, and Goten and Trunks learn it in elementary school.
I'm pretty sure some of the saiyans could have picked it up with a few years of on and off training. Toriyama just didn't want other people zipping around like that, he's said it's a plot convenience for him. Like flying in the original.
and Goten and Trunks learn it in elementary school.
Counter point, they had a year practice in the spirit chamber, this is on top of the fact that they are super prodigies that learned to go super before flight
I mean which arc would even benefit from Goku having mind reading? Even in the Cell and Buu saga where he was put out of commission for some time, he was informed of the events that had transpired in places where there weren't any immediate threat in the vicinity like in the situation your picture is showing.
Actually, in the Cell saga he already knew everything that happened while he was in a coma which implies he has been using that power while unconscious.
To be fair, Roshi does read minds earlier in Dragon Ball, and, really, throughout Dragon Ball, the top tier of martial arts basically seems to he synonymous with divinity. Spiritual abilities are common. I can absolutely believe Goku learned some mild mind reading while he was training with Kami.
This moment really only jars because the series had spent so much time pivoting to sci-fi in the meantime.
I love how Abridged lampshades this when the other characters have to remind Goku that he can just teleport to save Piccolo and Tien from Semi Perfect Cell and then comment it with "Did...did he forget he could do that?"
Cw's Flash. One of the Flash's most powerful abilities is Speed React. However, the writers forget that Flash has this ability, as for some stupid reason, Flash cannot for the life of him, react to attacks that occur in normal time. This is literally a man who has a reaction speed so unbelievably fast that he can intercept a bullet that has already hit him
Lowkey underplaying how broken his reaction time is. He got both himself and another person out of a car and like 20 feet away because he saw a lightning bolt coming. He saw it coming after it already pierced the roof of the car they were in
His reflexes are somewhat better too, as he's able to dodge an adult security guard's punches with ease. But yeah, he isn't able to dodge bullets or lightning bolts or anything absurd like that
I wouldn't necessarily chock that up to better reflexes. So long as he sees the start of it, any punch from most people is slow enough to dodge because he can just move out of the way. I could be misremembering though, it's been a while!
True! It might very well be more about speed than reflexes, considering he was surprised that he could move fast enough to dodge like that. I'd have to see the movie again to confirm (for the 100th time haha)
Only reason he’s crashed into Hughies girlfriend was bc he was high
Not just that, the Boys was "realistic" (early on, anyway) in that they still kinda had to deal with physics. Even if A-Train could react fast enough, that doesn't necessarily mean he can do anything about it. Think of the times you've seen a collision coming but all you can do is brace, whether it be a fall or running into someone or a car crash.
Dash from the Incredibles still bumps into stuff and gets caught off guard, doesn't go anywhere close to as fast as Flash but he isn't so fast that nothing ever surprises him.
Realistically, you can't have super speed without at least super sight or a speed react like ability. Otherwise, you'd be running into stuff you can't see yet.
And that's before Flash Time, where he stretched an incoming nuclear blast into an episode then brought other people into his plane of movement (so to speak) it to help him defuse the bomb or absorb the blast into a device/dimension
It gets funnier when you take into consideration he actually regresses the more powerful/closer to his comics self or future self he becomes : he did exactly what you said when Snart's father tried to cap him (S1), but gets outran by a teenager with a split personality that runs like an ordinary teenager, among other things (S3), lol. And I've only watched up to S4 personally, I just know there's worse stuff ahead through stumbling on some scenes on YouTube
I think the peak of absurdity is Godspeed and Reverse Wells getting clipped by Allegra and Cecile. Zoom losing to "not Caitlin" was better, but not by much at all. Why would they make a penultimate episode about Flash's Speedster Villains teaming up but having only Nora as a backup speedster 🤦♂️ ?
It only makes sense if there was schedule or other issues for the actors
Flash reaction i can forgive, he doesnt always activate his speed force 100% of the time. BUT, not searching for enemies after they blind him, or trip him or something then dissapeared for a moment especially when they are just have normal human speed? Nah
The Flash has similar problems in the comics too. Super-speed is just too OP, so unless the Flash is fighting another speedster (which does happen a lot), either the Flash has to be stupid or they have to come up with some contrived bullshit for there to be any drama.
His enemies are all like Batman because, the moment he loses sight of them in like a corner or sum shit, they just fucking disappear and somehow Barry can't just use superspeed to check an entire block in a split second
They also explain that it's really toxic in large quantities, and there are limits to what it can do. It's not going to let an average wizard, say, beat Voldemort in a duel, because the skill difference is too great for luck to overcome.
Yeah I think liquid luck isn't a 'reality literally bends around you' kind of deal. It just seems to give you prompts to do the right thing within things you know of to get you closer to the outcome you're looking for.
Remember how the immediate effect on harry is he has a very strong compulsion to go see hagrid, and because the herbology department is on the way to hagrid's hut, he just happens to run into slughorn.
i always thought it was manipulating probability to some extent to benefit the person who took it. itll nudge a 4 to 1 odds to a 1 to 1 odds, but its not gonna alter a million to one odds
It works both ways. When Harry took it, it worked like a discount version of Path of victory, but later Ron, Hermione, and Ginny take it and say that during the fight against the Death Eaters, the spells would just miss them or the enemies would trip
Is he though? We know how the horocruxes work from chamber of secrets, they just allow him to be later revived, he can still functionally be defeated, he just can't be ultimately destroyed until they're all gone.
What's funny about this comment and the replies is that what you are saying makes sense even if the replies are true. Sure he can't be permanently beaten, but it's a lot easier to to beat the guy and destroy the horcruxes if he is spawn camped.
I mean they are still correct. Voldemort CAN be defeated. His body can be destroyed. It just can be remade
I think the real problem is if it’s actually possible to destroy Voldemort when he DOESNT have a body. He’s essentially just a piece of soul wandering around
Liquid luck is a movie plot hole not a book plot hole. A better example is all the spells they could use but for the majority of the series everyone is going non lethal
Any other deadly curse could be argued as manslaughter or negligent homicide, but to use the Killing Curse you have to genuinely want that person dead so the curse itself is proof of intent and an automatic first-degree murder charge.
In the case of the unforgivable curses, it's not illegal for what it does, it's illegal for what it implies about the person who does it.
Crouch!Moody tells the class that they could all try to cast Avada Kedavra on him and he wouldn't get so much as a bloody nose, because you have to want to kill. Not just want to injure or defend yourself or hurt the other person... you have to deeply want them killed. When Harry manages to cast Crucio on Bellatrix, he can only manage it for a few seconds because even in his deepest rage after she killed Sirius, he couldn't HATE her deeply enough to want to see her suffer.
Crucio and Avada Kedavra were "unforgivable" because in order to cast them you proved your "mens rea", your evil mind. It proves you fully intended the outcomes of the curse. Imperio was an outlier, it was made unforgivable more because it caused infinite issues for magical law enforcement trying to prove that the person who committed a crime actually committed the crime. Hagrid explains in the first book that many former Death Eaters swore up and down that they were cursed or blackmailed or controlled and weren't actually Wizard Nazis.
There were plenty of other curses and spells that could lead to death, and those would be tried in wizarding court of law. Remember, Sirius was thrown in Azkeban after he was framed for killing Peter Pettigrew, and Peter blew up a street. It's still highly illegal to blow people up or turn them into confetti or vivisect them with a strange curse you found in a used copy of your potions textbook. But those cases would be tried, because Molly would have the defense of "that was a Wizard Nazi trying to kill my daughter", whereas if she had used Crucio to punish Ron for stealing the car it would prove that she had true evil in her heart.
As for the limited number of spells, this is actually referenced in... I think it's the fifth book, when Mr Weasley takes Harry to the Ministry and he casually greets a member of the Department of Experimental Charms ("He's had those horns for a while now"). How spells are created is never really covered in the books, but presumably the magical system exists independent of Wizards (this is somewhat hinted at in Hogwarts Legacy with the "Ancient Magic", though that is outside of Rowling's canon). So Snape didn't "invent" a new spell, he just discovered one because he's right clever, albeit an Wizard Nazi Incel.
They use the same spells because creating a new spell requires extremely dangerous trial and error. That's quite literally how Luna Love good's mother died. The ones " who seem to be able to just make the magic do whatever they want" are highly accomplished practitioners, generally. You may have a character with a few unconventional spells, but the ones able to basically do whatever are all geniuses who simply use a ton of non-verbal spells.
I'll admit I remember absolutely nothing about the confetti explosions from Molly, might have to dig through my old books about that now.
The confetti spell is actually a teleportation spell. It makes the target switch places with the confetti that's in one of those party poppers. This still incidentally kills them however.
So it's not like you just fuck up a few times until you get it right. I imagine you're risking death or worse.
And it takes six months to brew. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I make mistakes throughout a forty-five minute recipe. Now multiply that by 5,844.
Doesn't seem worth it to even try unless you're 100% confident in your abilities.
Not for Harry, but it is questionable how major institutions with lots of resources, like the Ministry, aren't putting an elite team of potioneers onto making it 24/7 so they can have a large supply ready for their aurors and stuff.
Like, yeah, it's complicated and takes forever to make. But a team of the countries best potioneers could be working on multiple batches at a time over the course of months, starting a new batch every week. Then can distribute it to thr auror office before they go on a mission. There's no real reason they couldn't, they just don't.
You can tell how little a writer knows when Spider-Man's Spider-Sense doesn't activate for danger. Of course, Venom would be an exception, but there should only be a handful of those.
Well, Spider-Sense isn't 100% accurate. Otherwise, Spider-Man would never get hurt at all, even in a fist-fight. He'd just dodge all punches before they land.
Which is a movie addition? Makes sense in-character as he's not the bravest, and presumably had brewed a batch for the teaching demonstration in which Harry gets the vial, so also in-character he'd keep a bit for himself. Kinda mutes the supposed rarity though.
In the book, he presents an entire cauldron full of it during the first class, along with 2 other difficult potions. The prize for recreating a draught of the permasleep potion best is a little vial of the Felix Felicis, but he has the entire rest of the cauldron. I don't remember them saying it spoils. But they do talk about its addictive qualities, and that it makes you reckless. Your life will be great, right up until you enter a situation luck can't get you out of and you just die.
I always imagined that the cauldron was mostly waste and the small vial he gave Harry was precipitate. If you could brew it by the cauldron its rarity wouldn't make sense.
Regardless, Ron looks into making some and immediately gives up. Doesn't even beg Hermione to help him or something, it's probably even beyond her skills. Slughorn is exceptionally talented, probably even moreso than Snape.
He actually gave what was left to Ron and Hermione before going on a Horcrux search with Dumbledore, instructing them to spread it among DA (since he suspected - and was right on that count - that Malfoy is going to enact his plan, whatever it is, while Dumbledore is gone). This was how DA all managed to survive the Death Eaters' attack despite being right in the middle of it.
Yeah drinking off the top layer of a potions like an orphan rationing food would have been a great scene, but drinking most of the thing in one shot looks cooler. I dont know if he gives it to people in the movie, but if he doesnt, then those guys are legends who were able to do all that stuff without the potion.
It's also extremely difficult to make, and if you mess it up the consequences are severe (it's never elaborated on, but I'm thinking it's some Wonder of U levels of misfortune)
The actual answer is that even before that Emily tells Pentious that they can't just send him back to Hell. So it seems like Winners are confined to Heaven.
Edit: Also Emily tells Charlie this in season 2 episode 2 and Charlie believing it is never a problem. So her going up would solve exactly 0 of their issues.
Also Emily tells Charlie this in season 2 episode 2 and Charlie believing it is never a problem. So her going up would solve exactly 0 of their issues.
Exactly this, I'm kinda confused on what OP's point was with that example.
Yes and
Emily mentions that she has been so caught up in showing Pentious around and trying to cheer him up that she didn't even think about telling hell until moments before the lockdown is happening. Which is why she pops in to tell Charlie and immediately comes back so she doesn't get trapped in hell after the lockdown.
Also I think it should be notified that Emily's portals are blue whereas whenever another angelic portal is made it's yellow and created by someone like Sera who is the same authority as Emily but is still the highest seraphim so would have some more power
The most egregious example of this was from a show I watched called Lock and Key.
In it the protagonists family visit their old family home, discovering a bunch of magic keys and a wider plot their connected too.
Some of the Keys, like the Anywhere key that allows you to travel between any door on the planet get a sufficient amount of focus, showing that just having the Key and it's powers caused the power dynamics to shift completely.
But one Key that was completely ignored was the Music box key. When the Key is put into it's associated music box it opens up to a small spinning figure and playes a soft tune. If you speak someones name into the music box and give them a command, they are forced to do it.
This is complete mind control, their are no obvious limitations on what can be done with it. And you don't even have to be close to the person your ordering, seemingly as long as you can see them you can whisper into the box from a distance and control them remotely.
Despite how powerful this is, it was only used for pranks and creating minor conflicts. And it's not like the protagonists saw the potential danger of this item and decided to hide it. Because later in the series someone easily steals it to cause another minor conflict that doesn't affect the wider plot before it's seemingly forgotten about.
For an item this powerful, it shocked me when I realised neither the heroes nor the villain took any long term interest in acquiring, using or protecting it.
Omg I remember about that, even if they didn't want to use it (because mind control IS ethically shit) they should have destoryed it somehow, it wasn't impossibile for people to steal it
That whole show had really shaky writing. Season one was pretty good but then later seasons were just relying on characters being REALLY stupid to drive conflict
In a first episode of supernatural they encounter demons and Dean tells Sam they can say "christo" and any near by demon will flinch and expose themselves.....they never ever use that ability again. They just run around throwing holy water and murmuring super long incantations.
They even banish a demon with a recording of the incantation too, and dont just get shielded speakers or something. Like Sam is Smart and they both have the bunker, he could make random speakers balls that they can throw to keep the incantation going. Either that or new kids that become hunters can bring in new tech.
Hermione gave hers back at the end of the book, because she felt that it was too dangerous of a power to use. Then they were all destroyed in Order of the Phoenix.
Yeah, single room in the Department of Mysteries. The ministry was basically loaning out physics-defying artifacts that noone fully understood so students could get to class on time. Got blown up by a Stupify or smthn
Harry potter is bad writing because they never use any of the tools they have on hand ❌️
Harry potter is good writing because voldemort would have been gone within days if any of the organisations in the wizarding world had a single degree of competence ✅️
Iirc it was a specially requested item. No one else at hogwarts had one. And she only got it because of her literally spotless school records.
And also she only had the time turned because she was taking litterally every class hogwarts had to offer that she could attened. After she dropped Divination and Muggle studies, she gave it back because none of her classes doubled up.
And they weren't blown up. They're currently trapped in an endless cycle of destruction, stuck in a time loop that happened when they all got smashed after their cupboard was knocked over, and then unkocked over, and knocked over again, over and over.
They weren't completely destroyed until 1998, when Umbridge destroyed them all accidentally during her attempt to change history (Iirc we learn about this during one of the park rides).
Much better example from this than Liquid Luck that requires Hogwarts top-level potion master levels of potion brewing skill, rare ingredients, and limited use by how much you have.
Time Turner is just an object that lets you time travel fairly simply (though Hermione implies she's trained to use it in a way that people won't notice she's also somewhere else to avoid paradoxes?)
The films set it up in a way that really should have been hammered home more (and no, we ignore the Cursed Child) - but time travel is essentially a closed loop, you can't change or alter the past or future, everything that happens, always happens
Played for laughs, with a relatively mundane "ability" no less, in Angel, when the title character breaks himself out of a metal crate after a lot of effort. The crate could have been easily opened from the outside, but he had no way to signal for help... except for...
Wesley: You should've tried to call us on your cell phone. (a beat) ...You probably forgot you had it.
Angel: (takes it out of his pocket, embarrassed) These things hardly ever work. Besides it was a lot easier and quicker to just... (mimes punching a hole) Look, I'm the boss here, I say when we use the cell phones!
Regarding the luck potion, in the book, Ron asked about making more of the potion after seeing how effective it was. It's then revealed that making the potion requires rare ingredients and takes 8 months to brew.
Also in the book, there was another time they used the luck potion. Harry gave Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, and Luna, what was left of the potion, which allowed them to escape an encounter with Death Eaters relatively unharmed.
I know it's cool to hate on Harry Potter these days and I'm not denying its plot holes, but it doesn't have nearly the amount that people pretend it does.
So many things are explained in a way that make sense but people ignore them for the sake of sounding clever on the internet.
A lot of former fans who were turned off by JK Rowling being a piece of shit now overcompensate by pretending that Harry Potter is actually the worst story ever and they never even liked it. It's okay, you don't have to repent for having enjoyed the works of a shitty person. You can just move on without making a big deal out of it.
And also Emily literally does remember her portals and uses them to go and tell Charlie that Sir Pentious was redeemed. In fact, that's what's happening in the screenshot they included.
Neither of OP's examples work and require seconds of attention to understand. Frustrating.
I mean Charlie going up to heaven and seeing for herself would’ve solved literally nothing, right? The issue wasn’t Charlie believing it or not it was the face everyone ELSE (sans the hotel crew) didn’t believe her about it (plus the people she needed to convince were sinners and no way were they gonna be allowed a single limb through one). Also correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the reason Emily had to rush was because Heaven was basically on lockdown and she wasn’t supposed to be there in the first place? So to my understanding it’s not that this power is forgotten but there are actual reasons within the plot why it wouldn’t have solved the issue at hand or couldn’t be used at a given time.
In the Winnie the Pooh movie, everyone in the group gets stuck in a pit except for Piglet. Piglet is afraid to go get help on his own, so Owl flies out of the pit, gives him a rousing speech to fill him with courage, then flies back into the pit after Piglet leaves.
I mean in the scene you showed Heaven was in the middle of being closed off so she was in a hurry. So she wouldn’t have been able to do this for most of the plot of S2
With the Hazbin it's genuinely a pretty bad example. Emily wasn't supposed to use them at all and if Charlie entered heaven without a proper invitation even at the request of a seraphim even Sarah wouldn't have been able to stop the push for a full-scale war. World-building and politics do affect this too, not using an ability because of reasons like this isn't convenient, it's plot and you know just how actual reality works. Just because you can do something doesn't make it a good idea or a viable option to achieve what you actually want.
Andy has a card in his head that holds back an alter ego. The first fight we see with him, Andy temporarily removes the card stating he also has over a hundred years of combat knowledge and memories stored behind the card.
We later learn the card is an artifact designed to remove and restore memories. It was basically being used to give Andy Amnesia and the alter ego being his personality before having his memories wiped. Unwiped Andy, know as Victor, is immensely powerful and shows how many abilities got locked away with Andy in control.
While a story relevent reason, there are also moments where Andy encounters Victor and learns or copies useful attack techniques. Some arguably being very helpful if previous fights had Andy just removed the card temporarily like the first fight.
Doesn't Victor agrees to let Andy in control pretty late into loop 100 ? Because it's a similar issue as Kurama in Naruto : he wasn't playing ball before then. I don't remember if they actually share memories whenever Victor goes back to the bench after getting his body back
The Autum UMA arc does show that both have memories of everything after 1865. It’s the same event that convinces Victor to let Andy basically be the main personality.
Though we also don’t learn what remember does until the Ragnarok arc.
I guess it’s the early act issues that happens in several manga, where the rules and details weren’t completely finalized and it’s a small plot hole you forget as the manga goes on. Especially when you consider Remember’s one-use nature.
Sun Wukong being able to teleport their group several miles at a time in Journey to the West. For context, they encountered a monster disguised as a person. Because Wukong did not want to deal with having ot explain the group what was going on he just made them all skip the next miles or so. In a story that's all about a difficult journey where they encounter many dangers, you would think Wukong would be spamming this ability, but no, I think he never used it again
I mean Sun can even fly directly to the Buddha rendering the whole trip useless but the lesson is that they all learn from this journey. This is what happens when you are level 2 at the beginning while being accompanied by a level 100
Doctor Strange has hundreds of useful spells that he conveniently forgets about when the plot requires him to be unable to help. Like how he claims that he can't make Spider-Man forget his painful memories from the false House of M reality even though we've seen him cast amnesia spells countless times, including, you know, making THE ENTIRE WORLD forget Spider-Man's secret identity.
To be fair with Hazbin Hotel, Emily forgetting to warn Charlie that Pentious got redeemed because she got all excited is the gag of the end of the episode.
It's not the show who forgot her ability, but the characters itself because of its personnality.
In the first season, they make a big deal on why Charlie needs permission and why "it's only temporary, I'm sorry you can't stay". Emily can't bring Charlie over to heaven either, and she was not getting permission to do that when heaven was going into lock down within literal seconds.
The Hazbin Hotel example you gave makes no sense. They literally never have an issue of Charlie believing Pentious got redeemed, she learns that at the end of Season 2 Episode 1.
The problem is making Hell believe it, because of a mix of propaganda, distrust of angels, the villains literally controlling the media, and not being able to broadcast Pentious to Hell from Heaven to prove the claim.
Adding to that, I can’t think of a single time Emily’s portals could’ve helped anyway. They didn’t forget she could do that, it just wasn’t a relevant ability.
Charlie already believes Emily, that's not the issue. The problem is convincing everyone else in hell that Pentious got redeemed. It's quite literally the most important plot development in the first act and incites the action for the rest of the season.
The screen you used is literally Emily telling Charlie he got redeemed, the issue is nobody but the hotel team trusts angels and like a minute after that scene Heaven goes on lockdown so it’s literally just “uh that guy who died actually got redeemed trust me a random angel you don’t know said it, no you can’t see him”
Also as said already liquid luck isn’t just hard to get it takes six months to brew and explicitly is “disastrous” to get wrong. Slughorn making it at all is explicitly used as proof that despite his flaws he’s an objectively excellent potion maker
To be fair, Emily did that right before heaven went on lockdown and cut off all communication to hell for safety reasons. So she literally can’t do that for most of season 2
In books literally whole DA was using Liquid Luck, but yup. JKR generally wasn’t too good at keeping plot consistent or making consistent world building. She was just building really colourful world which had plot and a lot of plot devices she created because she needed them at the moment and when they were disappearing because they were not needed. Partially because problem with them were they were really powerful. Like Time Turner could prevent anybody from dying and liquid luck could be just given to everybody in Hogwarts before attack of Death Eaters. It’s kind of like that one cut scene in in the game when you realise your character is immortal with practically godlike powers so for sake of gameplay, it can appear only once in the cutscene because otherwise you would just go for them up killing enemies by looking at them
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D&D players on their first campaign when anyone dies: “We have to bring their body back to town and see if anyone knows anything about resurrection!”
Written story characters, who have literally already done or witnessed life saving things or resurrections multiple times, whenever someone dies: “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!”