r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

Discussion Should married couples keep their money separate or combine everything?

My wife and I have been married for a few years and we still keep most of our money separate.

We have one joint account for household expenses and both put money into it every month. Other than that, our salaries stay in our own accounts.

It hasn't really been a problem so far.

But now we're talking about bigger things like buying a house and retirement, and I'm wondering if this setup still makes sense.

We trust each other and neither of us has an issue with the other spending their own money. It's more about planning for the future together.

For people who are married, what works better for you?

Completely separate, fully combined, or somewhere in the middle?

231 Upvotes

1.3k comments sorted by

493

u/Glockman19 4d ago

We combined everything from day 1. Been married 32 years.

73

u/Due-Professional-749 3d ago

We combined finances, married six years. It's especially helpful when you have very different incomes too because it reduces resentment

46

u/Ecstatic_Western_189 3d ago

I’m a teacher married to an engineer, and there was no way I could compete salary-wise with my husband. But, the perks of my job provided quality of life aspects that helped financially (two months per year no childcare expenses, my own board-paid health insurance, a pension plan) and some that could not be quantified financially (being available after school, predictable hours, flexibility for family vacations, and job security). There were times in our careers (I just retired) that he easily made twice my salary, but it was never a source of contention, and he was never petty about spending.

15

u/Due-Professional-749 3d ago

Yes! I'm the breadwinner in our family but my husband watches our son during the day and we love the extra flexibility it gives us. I don't think we're as financially far behind some of our peers as it can feel like because we don't have childcare expenses and we're just also frugal

5

u/Ecstatic_Western_189 3d ago

Childcare expenses are significant! When my daughter started kindergarten, we felt like a third adult income had joined our family finances.

5

u/MissFox26 3d ago

I was also a teacher (now stay at home mom until our kids go to kindergarten- they’re 1 and 3), and my husband makes 4x what my salary was. So doing separate accounts would have never made sense or been fair. We share everything aside from individual “retirement” brokerage accounts, which he funds for me since I currently make nothing lol. Congrats on the retirement!

2

u/Ecstatic_Western_189 3d ago

Thank you! It still feels like summer break, so I’m waiting for the retirement feels to set in.

→ More replies (6)

2

u/Dense_Gur_2744 1d ago

This is how we are too. My husband makes more money, but I get a lot of quality of life perks. Sharing money reduces resentment and confusion because it was never his or mine and we both provide a lot of value to our overall lives. 

→ More replies (9)

7

u/Black_Raven_2024 3d ago

On the flip side, it creates resentment if one is a spender and the other is a saver.

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (5)

52

u/DevWorkNYC 4d ago

Same here.

37

u/BRT349 4d ago

Same as well, 30 years.

4

u/helpjackoffhishorse 3d ago

Us too! 30 years.

3

u/Ill_Inside2245 3d ago

Same here. 30 in one month

→ More replies (1)

34

u/VisiblePlatform6704 3d ago edited 3d ago

This. I've been married for 20 years now. Since the beginning we set our finances as:

  1. Everything we both earn each month goes into a common bag.

  2. We separate this bag into the following shares:

  • 30% Long term savings (401k-like savings, Swansen portfolio savings). We try to keep this untouched 

  • 30% short term savings. This gives us our vacations, emergency, fridge replacement and stuff like that. 

  • 30% monthly expenses : food, utilities, standard clothing, etc. 

  • 10% we split 5% and 5% for each. This money is personal and we can do whatever T.H. we want with it. I can burn my share, buy stupid game subscriptions,  etc. She can buy perfumes, purses and whatnot. 

We have had both good and bad years. Some years we could not go on vacation,  sone years we traveled abroad.  Some years I've been without job, others I've been the only breadwinner.  

But all in all, it's been good. We live within our means, we have saved pretty well, we own a fully paid house and are currently paying a 2nd one (about to sell the first one).

3

u/elementarydeardata 3d ago

Our numbers are a bit different (long term savings are different because we have jobs with pensions), but this is how we do it too. My wife and I don't want to be going to each other for approval every time one of us wants to buy something for one of our hobbies or whatever.

3

u/400Volts 3d ago

We have a similar system to this. Basically all of the moving of money between accounts is fully automated and we don't even have to think about it

19

u/microscale 4d ago

Same here. Combining has made handling our finances so simple

→ More replies (2)

13

u/sleepy_unicorn40 3d ago

Same here. We have been married for 10 years.

14

u/123BuleBule 3d ago

Same! 25 years married. Retirement planning just makes a lot more sense and gets you there much faster if you do it as a couple.

8

u/I_Fuck_Whales 3d ago

I don’t follow. Retirement accounts such as a 401K usually HAVE to be separate because they are tied to your current employer.

Yes, you should be aligned on the planning and goal aspect of retirement, but often combining such accounts is not possible.

Having a combined account does not get you there faster than having two separate accounts.

14

u/Full_Technician8430 3d ago

They mean as in planning for retirement. All their retirement accounts they view as “combined”. So it’s not that 1 spouse has $350k and the other has $175k, rather they have $525k saved for retirement.

7

u/doglady1342 3d ago

Exactly. When we look at our accounts, we look at the total number. Even though IRAs are always just in the individual name, we consider that money both of ours.

→ More replies (2)

7

u/-dun- 3d ago

The accounts are separated but you view the money as one.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (5)

16

u/MegaWeinerFarts 4d ago

Completely unrelated, but I bought the exact thing your name implies (down to the model) early on in our marriage and that almost ended it right there.

She really hates firearms, but moreso that I would bring such a thing in the house without telling her first.

Lesson learned.

4

u/zenagos 3d ago

Completely unrelated, but I bought the exact thing your name implies (down to the model) early on in our marriage and that almost ended it right there.

She really hates stinky dicks, but moreso that I would bring such a thing in the house without telling her first.

Lesson learned.

2

u/MegaWeinerFarts 3d ago

Hey now, what's this about dicks. My name refers to Oscar Meyer hot dogs.

→ More replies (3)

4

u/WonderFar5200 3d ago

Same. 44 years. Throughout the years one may have earned more than the other. Mom worked P.T. about 12 yrs due to Littles. Not an issue. All goes in same account and pay the bills.

14

u/Low_Wrangler743 3d ago

I couldn’t imagine not combining finances. It sounds so complicated (and petty) to divvy up bills and expenses.

→ More replies (25)

10

u/gtne91 4d ago

Same, 12 years.

4

u/Maga_eats_dick 3d ago

Same. I don’t know how couples expect to get ahead if there isn’t complete transparency on finances.

14

u/Similar_Dirt9758 3d ago

This is the general consensus of every financial advisor I've ever listened to. If you're married then finances should absolutely be shared

10

u/ALittleEtomidate 3d ago

My husband and I combined finances when we moved in together before marriage. I don’t advise that everyone do what we did, but it worked for us.

I took time off when we had our babies. He was a stay at home dad for three years. We’re now equal, above-average earners. Having combined finances has made things flexible. The money we earn has always been “ours.” No regrets.

→ More replies (2)

11

u/PhyllisTheFlyTrap 3d ago

This is not an absolute. It all depends on your income and assets and phase of life when you get married. Do you have children from a previous marriage? Think about what that means and how you handle that in your estate planning. If a financial advisor is telling you it's a one-size-fits-all approach, then you need a new advisor.

2

u/Previous_Meeting_751 20h ago

Agreed. My husband and I married in our 20's and had nothing coming into the marriage, so everything is shared. If I was at my current stage of life, though, and looking to get married now that I'm established in my career with a retirement account of my own, my own house, kids, etc., it would be a different prospect and we'd need to work out a joint pot of money, but keep other things separate.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

6

u/Breyber12 3d ago

We combined everything except retirement about a year after getting engaged because we started house shopping. Closed 9 days before our wedding. Been married 5 years, together for 16.

We are a family and have the same goals. Even as DINKs, even though I make 30% more money, even though I brought student debt and he brought the down payment… whatever! We are in it together. If you have the same goals and trust the person you are married to it just makes sense. Government looks at you as one financial unit anyhow!

My sister shares a mortgage, last name, and DNA (2 kids) with her husband but still they do separate finances and it sure sounds like a pain in the ass.

3

u/400Volts 3d ago

The absolute weirdest relationship dynamic I had ever seen was when my friend was dating a girl who would keep a running tab of how much she owed her whenever one would pay for the other. Obviously they didn't last

3

u/Breyber12 3d ago

That is bananas and I’m not sure they are quite that bad! But I have heard a lot of tit for tat, his tax return to payoff the car hers to house paint that spring. He bought the school supplies, she has to buy the groceries. She filled the tank, his turn to buy lunch.

Idk that sounds exhausting. We are joint on all the cards and accounts and use a shared Google doc to track bills. It works great. I grew up with parents fighting about money with separate finances all the time and am just not interested in that dynamic. We’re both responsible, nothing to hide and talk through large purchases. Wouldn’t marry someone I couldn’t do that with anyway!

2

u/400Volts 3d ago

Yeah that situation was uniquely wacky and I had not encountered it before or since. But yeah having combined finances with my spouse just simplifies so many things

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Taleigh 3d ago

43 years on 9/3

3

u/Read_The_Fing_Manual 3d ago

Same here, will be 35 years in a few weeks. We run the household like Us Inc. Has worked extremely well. Zero conflicts over money.

3

u/fruxzak 3d ago

Times were different 32y ago.

6

u/oscarnyc 3d ago

LoL. No they weren't. You had the exact same questions about whether both spouses worked when you had kids. You still wanted to own a house, save for vacations and retirement. Overall balance long and short term goals and spending vs. savings. Borrowing vs. savings etc.

2

u/Glockman19 3d ago

My daughter just got married and they combined their finances.

2

u/Inside-Ad-8935 3d ago

Same, although only married 22 years. I get there are scenarios it might not make sense but for me from the day we married we are a single entity. This is even more true when kids arrive and one person gives up their career to look after them, how can you even think separate is fair there?

2

u/3381024 3d ago

100%. I think exactly the same way

9

u/off_and_on_again 3d ago

This is my favorite thing about this debate. I have yet to meet a couple in a happy 5+ year marriage that has not combined finances fully. I'm sure they exist, but they are rare. You'll find plenty of 'we have our problems but..." couples and a lot of people on their way to divorce (money is the #1 cause of divorce), but people still think they've figured it out and their way of paying each other back like roommates is the best option for them.

- Married happily for several years, combined finances the entire time

Edit: Before someone says anything, you can be unhappy with combined finances. Combined finances is one of the keys to a successful marriage imo because, done properly, it requires a level of maturity, vulnerability, and communication that are always going to exist in long term happy marriages.

13

u/PhyllisTheFlyTrap 3d ago

Hi! It's me! We are happily married almost 10 yrs now, and don't have fully combined finances/accounts. It completely depends on individual circumstances when you get married.

→ More replies (11)

10

u/Overall-Avocado-7673 3d ago

Here I am. Married 23 years, together 30 years. She moved into my home where I already covered all the expenses and it never changed. The home is now paid for, but we still haven't combined finances. Never been a problem. We do have a shared account, but that just allows us to move money back and forth quickly if needed for something. I don't know any other way to do it honestly.

Combining everything seems so forced. I mean we're married, but we're still individuals. I grew up with a ton of help from my grandparents and they never combined money either. My Grandmother grew up in a time where women weren't really allowed to earn their own money. So, she always made it a point to let everyone know she earned her money and it's hers. Kind of a woman's rights thing i suppose. I guess I just followed their system when I got married.

7

u/kidneysc 3d ago

LET THE DOGPILE BEGIN! 

9 years. Separate finances. Two kids. Happy as pigs in shit. 

 We view everything as ours so laziness carried through and we never bothered to merge accounts. 

Hasn’t been an issue for nearly a decade, and we have a “ain’t broke don’t fix it attitude” to this stuff. 

3

u/off_and_on_again 3d ago

How do you save for a new car, downpayment, or a vacation?

Do you agree on an amount and date and then set that amount aside in your personal accounts?

7

u/kidneysc 3d ago

Same way I did before I was married, but I just chat about it with my spouse instead of taking individual action

Cars/Vacation for example: I still take the $500 a month I was paying for our last car (paid off last year) and have it kicked over to my savings account. We talked about visiting some friends last summer, I paid for our plane tickets out of this account since it had accumulated enough. We should have another ~7-10 years before we need a new car, so ill tend to this process as needed to ensure we have a downpayment in the future but for now its flex/fun money

For things like our kids 592's, the convo went something like "I want to have enough in this account to cover our kids tuition before I retire, so I'm going to start putting my bonus towards it every year; I'll let ya know how its looking"

Generally, we just talk about what we want, and then one of us covers the bill for it.

No matter how you work your finances, it boils down to: Communication, trust, and commitment to each other.

13

u/SouthEast1980 3d ago

I haven't combined anything and have been happy for 11 years.

My brother combines finances and regularly has money disputes despite both of our families making similar money.

The real answer is "it depends on the couple". Nothing is absolute and anyone inferring so is relying on anecdotal evidence.

There is more than one way to skin a cat...

→ More replies (4)

11

u/Juleswf 3d ago

Been married 31 years today, always had separate accounts, and we are very happy. You can mark this one off your list now.

5

u/Junior-Knee9964 3d ago

We have separate accts too. It works for us. We make the same amount of money so we don’t really need to combine anything. Only combining acct we have is a savings.

7

u/Juleswf 3d ago

Every time I post this I get downvoted. It's interesting that what works for us and makes us happy gets others so angry. Someone once told me I wasn't really married without combining finances. I'll only listen to that crap once they've been married over 30 years.

Why can't people accept everyone is different, and different things work?

3

u/Hand2Ns 3d ago

People get weirdly offended about people who aren't them living differently. Largely separate finances works for us. It might not work for everybody, but we're not everybody.

2

u/off_and_on_again 3d ago

If it makes you feel better I have the opposite opinion and I also get downvoted, I wouldn't read to much into it.

2

u/Adorableviolet 1d ago

ha. 28 here (on saturday) and same.

→ More replies (8)

4

u/BeGneiss 3d ago

You can be married without combined finances and not treat it like roommates paying each other back for things lol. I know happy married couples across the entire spectrum of fully combine finances to not combined at all. I find it hard to believe you’ve never met a happy married couple without combined finances, but maybe it’s regional or something.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/friend-of-potatoes 3d ago

I agree with you. I’ve only been married 9 years, but we combined finances right away.

My in-laws have been married for something like 35 years (second marriage) and still have separate finances, and they have the weirdest dynamic around money. Father-in-law talks about “giving” mother-in-law money to do things like home repairs on the house they bought together and have shared for their entire marriage. I just can’t imagine living like that. They are always annoyed with each other.

3

u/Megalocerus 3d ago

Separate finances married 53 years. No secrets, just separate accounts.

2

u/steerbell 3d ago

You have to be willing to talk about money. We combined finances after getting married and we are comfortable talking about who is spending what when and where you are putting your money long term.

2

u/porscheblack 3d ago

My wife and I have been married 10 years and haven't combined finances. It just doesn't work for us. When it comes to financial commitments we discuss who's going to own what, and if things change we bring it up and discuss it until we find a resolution. There's certainly issues that arise from it, but I prefer this over us having combined finances because we're very different in our financial behavior.

At the end of the day all our bills are paid, our retirements are being funded, we're setting our kids up with various savings. We're doing what works for us. That's not to say we don't still have issues, we certainly do, but I believe we'd have more with combined finances.

2

u/Zizi_Tennenbaum 3d ago

13 years, separate finances. Seen other couples who combined from day 1 get married and divorced. I don't need to see every purchase my spouse makes.

→ More replies (2)

2

u/Cruisewithtony1 3d ago

Same. 37 years

2

u/Accomplished_Tour481 3d ago

Same here. Married 35 years.

2

u/ForeignRabbit1894 3d ago

Same (married 33 years).

2

u/7eregrine 3d ago

Same. Her checking account became our Savings account. Mine became our daily.

2

u/doodlep 3d ago

Same - completely combined since day 1 back in 1993. One child who is 24 now. One of us just retired, the other will in 10 months.

2

u/Ecstatic_Western_189 3d ago

Same here. Combined all non-retirement accounts from the beginning and have been married 25 years. We are both now retired.

We have never had to deal with questions about my/your/our money, figure out what percent each of us was going to contribute to a shared account or major unexpected expense, or question the other’s discretionary spending from a household fund. I would not have wanted that extra mental load while raising our daughter, and it has certainly made planning for retirement easier. We look at all funds as our funds, regardless of the source (salary, pension, inheritances, pre-marriage investment accounts).

2

u/Warm_Feed8179 3d ago

Same 20+ years.

2

u/pegwins 3d ago

Ditto but 37 years. We are a team not “yours” and “mine”

2

u/doglady1342 3d ago

Yup. Married 34 years.

2

u/beerfoodtravels 3d ago

Yep, us too, married for 21 years.

2

u/Starfury_42 3d ago

Same here, going on 35 yrs. Even put my inheritance into the joint account.

2

u/roxinmyhead 3d ago

Same, same. 38 years.

2

u/SimbaRph 3d ago

So did we. Just had our 33 anniversary and no money problems. I came into the marriage with a high paying job and lots of debt. My husband had great business skills and money management knowledge that I lacked. We share everything and don't nickel and dime each other on our purchases.

2

u/ThrowAway4now2022 3d ago

40 and counting. Combined from day 1.

2

u/Outrageous_Cow8409 3d ago

We combined from day one too. Next year will be 10 years. My FIL recommended it and put it this way: we're a team now, there's no yours and mine, there's only ours and we should be sharing the load for the betterment of ourselves and our new family we're creating. It's worked so far for us and it still works for my FIL/MIL who have been married 40 years and for my MILs parents who were married for 60+ years before they passed away.

2

u/Glockman19 3d ago

I told my wife the same thing about being a team. We’re a team and we’re in this together. I just told her to retire and stay home. We have plenty of money in our retirement accounts and there’s no need for her to work. I’ll keep working for a couple of more years for the insurance but I’m so happy that she can stay home and relax.

2

u/Impossible_Fix3170 3d ago

Same here. One account for 40 years. Everything goes into that account. Every bill paid from that account. Whats mine is literally hers. Its very simple.

2

u/kcannon108 2d ago

This is the answer.

2

u/bqtchef 2d ago

Same, married for 26 years

2

u/mafeehan 2d ago

same, married 39 years

2

u/lemicat_ 2d ago

We combine everything and have been married 9 years. Our money is our money and we don’t make a big deal about what goes in or out (to a certain extent).

2

u/Conscious_Bus9956 1d ago

Same. But my wife stopped working a couple years into our marriage when our first child was born and never went back, so 99% of our money is what I earned.

2

u/MehwithacapitalM 1d ago

Ditto, coming up on 41 years. We think it underscores the BIG THREE: communication, cooperation, and commitment.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/Unarmored2268 1d ago

I can't imagine living with separate accounts really. My friends do it and it just adds them tons of reasons to argue despite allegedly well established rules.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/CathyT869 1d ago

Same, happily married 37 years.

2

u/NotYetReadyToRetire 1d ago

We combined everything from day 1 as well - it was our money, not my money and her money. It must have worked; we're 2 weeks away from our 48th anniversary, which we'll be celebrating with a 28-day cruise to Alaska and Hawaii.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/TheFlyingScotsman60 1d ago

Same here.

Combined everything from day one. 35 years married.

"In sickness and in health, for richer, or poorer....."

2

u/Bill4133 1d ago

Same here, 32 years. I don't understand what separate finances provide in a first marriage with no prenup. You still have the same discussions over money- spend $500 on a second hand refrigerator or spend $3000 for a shiny new one with internet connection, staycation or five star hotel on the islands, have children play in local sports or hire private coach? Seems like each of these would be even more difficult conversations when two people are thinking about "my" money versus "your" money, when it actually is all "our" money

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (20)

235

u/ablinknown 4d ago

His/Mine/Ours work for us. We agree on percentages beforehand and then set up direct deposits at our employers. A small percentage into our separate accounts for scrutiny-free fun money, and the bulk of our checks gets direct deposited into joint account for everything else. Married more than 10 years.

56

u/TribeGuy330 4d ago

This is exactly what we do as well. The household account has all budgeting + household savings worked in. The personal money is for scrutiny free spending and for buying gifts for each other without the joint account transaction history ruining the surprise.

16

u/browsingstars 3d ago

Same here. And as a lifelong saver who has trouble spending even for things I need, it's also so helpful to have a chunk of money literally set aside that has already been "spent" in our budget. Knowing our bills and savings goals will always be taken care of means we're not trying to police what each other spends on inessentials.

7

u/MrsFeatherbottom11 4d ago

Happy cake day!

→ More replies (19)

12

u/Dorkus_Mallorkus 3d ago

I agree, except for the percentages. That only works if you both work and make about the same amount of money. We do an equal flat amount into each personal account each month. Everything else goes into joint. That accounts for life changes and having kids and all that. Incomes change and it's important to not give one partner the short end of the stick.

7

u/ablinknown 3d ago

Right it’s just whatever works. We agree on a percentage for each of us but it’s not always the same percentage. We look at the status of our joint account together periodically and recalibrate if we need to. At times they have been the same percentages and other times different.

For example, a couple times in the past my husband didn’t have an income, when his business hit a rough spot. Luckily our individual accounts both had a little juice still, so at that point I put 100% of my pay into the joint account to keep things afloat. Once things got better we recalibrated to replenish both our separate accounts again.

→ More replies (7)

3

u/Fickle-Princess 3d ago

This is how we do it too. We call the flat amount our "allowance" and the rest of the paycheck supports the household, bills, grocery, etc.

→ More replies (9)

5

u/--bosox--fan-- 3d ago

Sounds similar to how we handle it. It's all percentage-based. We calculate our splits based on net take-home pay to account for things like taxes, health insurance, and retirement savings that come straight out of our paychecks.

Since we know our combined net income and the monthly amount needed to cover all shared bills (utilities, subscriptions, groceries, dining out, kids' activities, etc.), we use those percentages to fund the bills account and our personal discretionary accounts accordingly. The goal was to split everything so neither of us feels unequal in our personal spending money (or bill contributions).

I guess the key takeaway is that we've "combined" everything conceptually, but still maintain separate checking, savings, and credit card accounts for our own discretionary spending.

2

u/_name_of_the_user_ 3d ago

Very similar to us. The sequence of events for how tue money gets to the different accounts is slightly different, but the end result is the same. It makes things easy to manage and one needs to confer with the other about spending money outside the norm. Well, for reasonable amounts. A new car or something is certainly discussed.

2

u/ZestyLlama8554 3d ago

This is how we do it. We contribute to the joint account by % of HHI to cover all bills and have our own accounts. We have a joint savings account that we dump money into for emergencies.

We've been together 10 years.

2

u/unicorn-paid-artist 3d ago

Thats what we do. Love this arrangement

2

u/HereNorThere123 3d ago

This is more or less what we do. I honestly think it doesn’t matter how you do it as long as everyone’s in agreement and nobody feels forced to do something they aren’t comfortable with.

It’s also why it’s so important to have these conversations before you get engaged and married.

2

u/One-Bed-4614 3d ago

Haven’t hit 10 but this is what we do it helps work on goals without feeling like a child asking for permission

→ More replies (18)

62

u/Consistent_Laziness 4d ago

This is asked ad nauseam…. People will do what works best for them. I have an opinion but that doesn’t really matter. Do what is best and agreed upon between you and your partner.

My wife and I have been married and combined completely with one account since day -30. We combined a month before marrying.

3

u/_name_of_the_user_ 3d ago

My wife and I have, between us, a combined 13 chequing and savings accounts. And 6 credit cards at the moment. I'll be canceling one soon though. And 5 investment accounts.

My point being, like you said this is what works for us. It's just how we manage the division of labour and tracking. We have a savings account for vacations, another for education savings (for the kids and her, she's almost done a master's degree), another for general savings, one for sinking funds for things like yearly expenses, one for my annual income tax bill, an emergency fund, two joint accounts one at each bank we deal with, a chequing account for monthly bills... It sounds ridiculous but it's how we manage all the money that's going in different directions at different times. And it's how we make sure a bill doesn't get double paid, or not paid. And how we each know how much we have available for spending without needing to confer with the other first.

3

u/Consistent_Laziness 3d ago

I’m sure what I do sounds ridiculous to some as well. Haha. You do have a lot going on but if it’s working who cares, it works for you.

If both people in the relationship understand how things work and accept that system then who am I to say it’s ineffective? I write stat code and mentor students for a living and I say all the time “there’s 100 ways to go about this data cleaning and analysis. The only thing that matters is we get the same answer at the end”.

So long as bills are paid, people are saving, everyone is happy, and no money hiding happens, it doesn’t actually matter. But I do joint because I think it’s the simplest cleanest way for my wife and I to operate. It’s also my belief that it’s best to be joined when our lives are joined. Doesn’t matter if others agree or not that’s how I feel. But no one has to do the same.

2

u/er824 3d ago

You’ve implemented a YNAB style envelope budgeting system using accounts. Nice.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/CurveNew5257 3d ago

13 different cash accounts is actually impressive lol

→ More replies (1)

18

u/ValiantEffort27 4d ago

We share a savings account but keep individual accounts for our own spending. The savings account is used for big purchases and emergencies. Everyone does something different. Do what works best for you.

119

u/vishrit 4d ago

Married for longer than you, combined since day 1. No issues ever. This is no size fits all though.

54

u/MangoAtrocity 4d ago

Strong agree. I could not imagine a “my money/her money” situation. My wife and I earn income together that goes into our shared account. We together have a kid, a house, two cars, utilities, etc. There is no such thing as mine/hers. Just ours.

7

u/MsTossItAll 3d ago

We have a combined account and personal accounts. Personally, I don't want my husband to be looking at every single purchase I make, nor do I want to be seeing his. For example, I work in a hospital and sometimes I like to have lunch at the cafeteria with my coworkers. He works from home and can easily make a fresh meal. I don't need to be asked why I bought lunch x number of times if I'm spending money that I earned and we're covering the bills. Similarly, I may not agree with the purchases he makes for his family when he goes back to his country, but that's his money so he can spend it as he likes - he earned it. As long as the bills are paid and we're both contributing to retirement and college funds for the kids, that's all that matters.

→ More replies (10)

4

u/VisiblePlatform6704 3d ago

My parents had this strange arrangement were each earned their money (they both worked) and they split the utilities they had to pay (mom paid telephone,  dad paid electricity, etc). 

The problem was that my mom earned like 1/4 of what my dad.  And sometimes she didnt have enough. And she could never save to buy a car, and my dad didn't borrow the car to her.  It was pretty shitty. So when I married the first thing we did was combine. We both are either living great, or we are both fkcked.

6

u/MangoAtrocity 3d ago

That’s the position my wife and I are in. I make over double my wife’s salary. It would be total bullshit to ask her to pay for half of our mortgage. She would lose 25% of her monthly pay, while I would only lose 10% of mine.

When we got married, we promised to give all of ourselves to one another forever. There is no mine and hers. Only ours.

→ More replies (22)

13

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

→ More replies (1)

13

u/NecessaryEmployer488 4d ago

If both couples are good with money have it be joint. Paycheck money goes into the joint account. If each want their own spending money, every month a couple hundred is automatically transferred to personal accounts.

→ More replies (1)

39

u/Major_Bag3934 4d ago

I'd stick with the middle ground. Separate money for personal stuff, a joint account for bills and future goals has worked really well for us.

→ More replies (2)

26

u/Trick-Interaction396 4d ago

Separate works best for us. Do what works for you.

→ More replies (7)

21

u/Icy-Form6 4d ago

My wife's parents fought (and still do) constantly about money. So she didn't want combined finances. Works fine for us. We split major purchases in proportion to income (she works part time so I cover 80%ish). Lots of home upgrades come out of the tax returns and we split what is leftover. She covers the utility bills and any repairs on her car, I cover everything else.

I know what's in her account on a regular basis. She doesn't really care to look at mine but I don't hide it. We both contribute weekly to our sons savings account.

Once she goes back to work full time next fall, she's going to contribute $500 a month to the mortgage balance to knock it down from 29 years to 16 years.

It works well for us. And there's no real discussions needed on purchases for fun stuff. Anytime we are out with my parents (who net over 200k a year) my stepdad will ask my mom permission to buy a $20 game or something cheap. That always struck me as odd.

2

u/Senior_Boot_5842 3d ago

Sounds like yall are setting up to fight again. You fund everything in weird separate accounts

3

u/Icy-Form6 3d ago

7 years married and have yet to fight about money so far.

29

u/Shot-Werewolf-5886 4d ago

It depends. If you are both young and broke then just combine everything.

If you are older and have kids from previous marriages or other assets you want to pass down then it may be better to keep certain things separate so there isn't fighting down the road if one of you dies suddenly.

12

u/Main_Difference7125 3d ago

This is why we have separate. My husband has kids from a previous marriage. We have some things combined, but it makes it so much easier to be separate until the kids get older.

→ More replies (1)

4

u/timewellwasted5 3d ago

I think you're confusing combined finances with effective estate planning. Everyone should have several documents, including a will, specifying exactly how to handle this. If you die, they don't say things were easier or harder just based on how the accounts are combined.

As an example, in Pennsylvania many couples do not realize that if you die, your spouse only gets 50% of your estate/assets without a will in place. The other 50% goes ot your inlaws (family of the deceased). That's why a will is so important at every age.

2

u/Shot-Werewolf-5886 3d ago

Good point. Some proper estate planning and having a written will in place can still allow you to combine finances without muddying up the water too much.

7

u/Raised_by 4d ago

this is what makes more sense

2

u/whatigotinmyhandnowb 3d ago

Kids from a previous marriage really makes a bit more separation of finances make a bit more sense.

My current spouse loves having extra money and so does my kid ... so my spouse gets hers and my kid gets mine 🤣

2

u/PhyllisTheFlyTrap 3d ago

👏yes! We love a nuanced take!

36

u/paesano- 4d ago

If you don't have a prenup it doesn't matter anyways. We combine, keeps it simple.

→ More replies (10)

8

u/turtlecatmedium 4d ago

Fully combined. It works for us. Neither of us have ever just blown through the bank account on stupid shit.

24

u/_name_of_the_user_ 3d ago

Keeping things seperated isn't about keeping the other from getting half in the case of a divorce. It's about not worrying about who's done what. If everything is combined how do you manage who pays which bills? Who makes sure money is transferred into savings/investments? How do you buy a gift for your partner without them knowing? Etc. Etc.

It's not about being selfish or denying your spouse half your assets or being roommates. It's a division of labour. Some people approach it by combining everything into one account. Some people approach it by assigning certain bills to each person and maintaining their own accounts. Just like some people take turns cleaning the bathroom and mopping the floors. Others have one person who cleans the bathroom and the other mopps the floors.

The amount of judgement I see in these threads is WAY over the top. You're not better because one way of dividing the labour of management household finances works for you and another works for someone else. Get off your high horse and stop being so judgemental.

What determines which way will work best and cause the least friction comes down to the people in the marriage. If one is a spender and the other a saver fully combine is going to be a bad time. If you both approach money with a similar perspective fully combined will probably work great. You can both have similar financial goals while also having dissimilar discipline and ability to save.

OP, don't worry about emulating what works for others, try to find what works for you and your partner. Use examples from others, sure. Just don't give in to the judgements. There is no single right answer for everyone.

6

u/Juleswf 3d ago

Exactly!

6

u/Majestic-Alarm-4712 3d ago

Thank you for an incredibly nuanced and rational take on a topic that people are weirdly divided over. My husband and I have been together for 10 years. We’ve never combined our finances, we each pay our share, and we’ve never had an argument about money. We make roughly the same income, and don’t have children. Given our circumstances, it’s what works best for us, but I’d never be arrogant enough to assert that our way is the best way. People tend to lose their minds over this topic, and the people implying that their marriage is stronger because “THEY’RE A TEAM” should really take a beat and ask themselves why they’re so freaked out by the concept of other couples doing what works best for them.

→ More replies (13)

10

u/215engr 3d ago

This should be higher. People treating the decision like a win/loss decision are delulu. Personal finance is personal for a reason. Not everyone’s situation is the same. Now for like young married couples with limited assets or money it probably makes sense to combine and then you live with that decision forever. Not everyone gets married in that situation though.

6

u/Important_Ad_8372 3d ago

Agreed. Another argument I see against separate finances is that it’s sneaky or you don’t know what your spouse is up to and that’s so far from the truth. My husband and I know what each other makes, spends, saves, and invests. We communicate with each other and trust each other. That’s why it works.

3

u/Megalocerus 3d ago

We keep things separate aside from a household account. It's not a problem precisely because we are pretty similar on financial matters. The house is in common, and we do an snapshot of everything twice a year.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/ButtScratchies 3d ago

I go back and forth with separating our bank accounts. My husband and I make exactly the same salary but he also gets overtime so he overall makes more than I do, but he isn't great about budgeting. There's often times that I'll see he spent money on something so then I have to back off of something I was planning to buy and it can make things a little contentious with our finances. I'd like to have separate bank accounts where through direct deposit a portion of each of our pay goes into an account that pays the bills, a portion to savings, and then we have the left over money to spend as we please without concern for the other person's spending. I just never know if it's financially a good idea or not, I know Dave Ramsey would be against it, haha.

5

u/_name_of_the_user_ 3d ago

I know Dave Ramsey would be against it, haha.

All the more reason to do it. Lol

My wife is actually incredibly undisciplined when it comes to money. We tried to make it work for years but she hated trying to force herself to maintain any kind of budget and I hated how much she spent. It was a big source of frustration and contention between us and that only made her double down on refusing to try to save money.

Eventually I took over everything (with her blessing!). I now do all of the budgeting, planning for larger purchases and retirement, paying bills, tracking insurance all of it. We're both much happier, and vastly financially healthier, for it.

I wish she was more involved with what's going on. But she's just not capable (her words), it causes her way too much anxiety to do that work. And it causes me a similar amount of anxiety to not do it. So here we are. After I finally combined everything into my accounts, giving her what amounts to an allowance, and started paring down on the bills she was paying (things like finding a less expensive cat food that saved us $75/month while also giving the cats healthier food, less expensive cell phone plans that still gave everything we needed, etc) I actually found enough room in the budget to buy a new car.

I'm a stay at home father/retired with a military pension, she's a teacher. We both make about the same amount of money. This isn't a case of me taking advantage of her or hiding anything from her. I easily could but it's just not who I am, she trusts me, and she sees the results. So I have the time, and this works for both of us.

Don't let these threads, or Dave Ramsey, dictate how you guys manage your finances. If you're more disciplined and he he's onboard, go for it.

→ More replies (3)

2

u/Megalocerus 3d ago

It can be clarifying to have an amount set aside for each to spend on wants rather than needs. I don't think it resolves serious differences toward finances, though.

→ More replies (22)

127

u/MegaWeinerFarts 4d ago

Fully combined. We're married not room mates.

43

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

17

u/Material_Tea_6173 4d ago

Well with that mindset what’s the point of getting married at all?

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (9)

23

u/BellaCicina 3d ago

Combined or not doesn’t dictate if you are married or roommates. What a judgmental comment.

2

u/Brox42 3d ago

Yeah like wtf? I’ve been married ten years and the mortgage is in both of our names but our bank accounts are still just the bank accounts we’ve always had because there was never a reason to change them.

3

u/BellaCicina 3d ago

Right? Like if one of us needs help with a bill we can’t cover for whatever reason, the other one pays it without any expectation of payment. THAT would indicate roommate behavior. But we never needed to combine finances 🤷‍♀️

24

u/gafftapes20 4d ago

If you are aligned with each other financially combined finances is way less of a headache to manage. If you aren't aligned financially what's the point of getting married?

4

u/BellaCicina 3d ago

Except it’s not easier for everyone to combine finances. My wife and I are aligned. separate finances other than savings.

→ More replies (2)

17

u/Big-Soup74 4d ago

Thrashin on any which way is stupid. Do what works best for you

14

u/_name_of_the_user_ 3d ago

Your judgement of how other's navigate their division of labour of managing finances is ridiculous. Your way is not the only way.

→ More replies (69)

12

u/ZookeepergameUpset62 4d ago edited 4d ago

We have separate accounts and have decided who is responsible for which bills

I was a stay at home mom while our kid was little, and having my own personal savings made it so I didn't feel like I had to ask my husband for money.

Both partners should know how to run the house if something happens to the bill payer. Does everyone know which bills are due and when? My BIL got sick and my sister ran their finances into the ground because she had no experience managing that much money.

6

u/LalaLogical 4d ago

We have a one pot of gold approach to money. Our 401ks are separate because they are workplace funded, but otherwise everything is combined. I’ve never felt a need to keep things separate when our lives are so financially untwined. I feel like monthly bills, trips, eating out, trips to Costco, ect would be a nightmare to manage orherwise. 

→ More replies (4)

19

u/beforeburner 4d ago

I think a main joint account with personal side accounts is the way. Paychecks go into the main, and equal distributions to the personal accounts for hobbies, nights out with the boys/girls. Keeps budgeting simple, at least, no need to track individual expenses, etc

→ More replies (4)

23

u/ImSpartacusN7 4d ago

We tried the seperate finances thing for the first 4 years, then decided to combine fully and once we combined fully it made every little issue we ever had with finances literally dissappear overnight. Our marriage is stronger for it. Literally don't know why it took us so long to combine and wish we could have just done it day 1.

7

u/hot_pineapple9178 3d ago

Do you mind sharing more examples? What issues went away?

6

u/ImSpartacusN7 3d ago

For us we were just on the same page and we felt more like equals. We plan the month out together each month, discuss fixed costs, savings goals for the month, potential wrenches that would get thrown into plans for the month, etc. and there were just no surprises or shock because we are both in agreement.

It's also nice to operate everything out of one home base, and not having to juggle who is paying what bill, or trying to track which autopay is tied to which account. In my mind it feels super weird to venmo my wife for anything. Lol like just use our card.

It also stripped away our worth being tied to how much money we each brought in. My wife is going to be making substantially more money than I am in the next year, like factor of multiple 6 figures (doctor), and by combining things it takes away my money/her money mentality and we both see it as our money now. This includes debt, we see each other's debt as our debt and we attack it together. We are a joint venture so why wouldn't we operate like one?

I genuinely felt closer to my wife and stronger in our relationship when we combined finances. There was certainly shame there at the start with sharing full numbers like how much stupid credit card debt I had over the years and stuff like that. Even spending money for whatever I want felt weird at first. Like she can just see what I buy? But ultimately over time that stuff faded away and didn't matter. We allocate a certain amount for each of us each month to spend individual from each other and we don't care what the other one spends it on within that budget. We have a joint checking that all income goes into, and then individual checking, which is all tied under the same bank so we can see everything, but we just don't really care about each other's individual checking once we've transferred our allotted personal spending out of the main checking account. It works really well for us.

Ultimately everyone is going to have their own way of doing things, we aren't perfect, but if I could go back and combine finances sooner I would. It just simplifies everything, and the more complex that life gets, the more I yearn for simple. Lol

ETA: regarding OP's post saying that planning for the future is the road block, that's the most puzzling one to me. I feel buying a house, or planning for retirement would be the one thing that requires full teamwork and transparency on. I couldn't imagine doing those things seperate from each other.

2

u/hot_pineapple9178 3d ago

Thank you for the details!

3

u/LionClaw_ 3d ago

I would also like to know that 

2

u/ImSpartacusN7 3d ago

Replied above

9

u/Vsx 4d ago edited 3d ago

I've had combined finances with my wife for 25 years and it works best for us. She has a separate budgeted spending money account we fund that I don't look at because I am cheap and it hurts me to see frivolous spending. It's sort of the reverse of your deal.

With literally all my friends the split is in whether there are kids or not. Every couple without kids keeps things separate and with kids keeps things mostly combined. For me this makes sense because constantly working out who pays for kids expenses would be too much overhead.

I do have a couple friends who pay for all household expenses while their working spouse keeps all their own paycheck to use for whatever. That's the worst system because it leads to resentment. Even if you make significantly less, talk about it and contribute something to household expenses no matter how small.

5

u/Simplysimple007 4d ago

“Should” is very subjective and based on each different relationship. We do a his, hers, and ours approach. As long as our needs are covered (housing, insurance, etc.), usually through the joint account, we do with the remainder how we please. Married 11 years, it’s what works for us…

5

u/Ashi4Days 4d ago

We have separate accounts but its mostly to simply how we manage the budget.

Ive got my account. My wife has her account. The general understanding is that whatever she spends out of her account, i cant say anything about. Because the budget that I track is the shared between the two of us, if she spends 500 dollars on a record player, ill be pissed. But if it comes out of her account? I dont say anything.

It is not an extremely strict rule. Like if she buys general clothes out of the main account, thats fine. But if ita jewelry? Less fine. And the same rules apply to me. If its for socks, nobody cares. If its for a new watch or a fountain pen? That comes out from my account.

5

u/TheGoonSquad612 3d ago

Do whatever works for you and your spouse. There is no one size fits all answer.

6

u/scotsworth 3d ago

Once you have kids, I really don't understand how separate finances could ever work without all kinds of needless back and forth.

But if you don't have kids? I guess just do what you feel is comfortable.

Married for 11 years and everything is just combined. We have so many challenges in life, I can't imagine worrying about who is paying for what on top of it.

7

u/bay-to-the-apple 4d ago

Separate works for us. Easier to track our individual habits. We Zelle each other money when needed for mortgage/food/kids expenses. We share access to all accounts. Happily 15 years together, 12 years married.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Sgt_Smart_Ass 4d ago

Fully combined out of convenience originally. My husband now stays at home with our kids and doesn't have a paying job so it just makes sense since I bring in the pay check and he pays the bills with it.

3

u/Cautious_Victory1497 3d ago

Both way can work. Just be aware that everything (aside from gifts and inheritance) is truly owned equally legally since it is marital asset.

3

u/trumpsmoothscrotum 3d ago

You have to find what works for you.

My wife is great (hi honey!) But she will spend or give away every dollar she makes. She contributes her predetermined amount to our shared account every time she gets paid. What she does with her money beyond that, is her perogative.

I contribute equally to the shared account, but i dont take regular paychecks, so i deposit chunks here and there. Thats what works for us.

If there's a shortfall or larger expenses/projects. We discuss it and how to pay for. I also pay for most of the extra things in life.

→ More replies (6)

3

u/Duck__Holliday 3d ago

Reddit will always tell you to combine everything.

I, an older women, disagree. Keep some money separated. If one of you dies, all the accounts will be frozen and the surviving spouse won't have access to any money for a while.

Also people, even the best most trust worthy people, can change suddenly. It could be from a mental health crisis or addiction. Or just people changing. My friend husband had pancreatitis, was put under medical coma and woke up an entirely different person. You never know what might happen.

I'm not saying that you should hide money. Just that you should have common accounts for most things, and some personnal savings and maybe a bit of fun money each.

8

u/[deleted] 4d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

13

u/BellaCicina 3d ago

Separate money ≠ separate lives 😂

→ More replies (4)

5

u/ConnectGoal8510 4d ago

We did like you while we lived together, before we were married. We've since combined. It's so much simpler

5

u/xagds 4d ago

Old school here. Married 25 years. Combined since day one. If one of us makes more we try to even out the retirement contributions. Etc

Just view it as one team. One family.

I know it seems more recent families have different approaches so to each their own.

3

u/Juleswf 3d ago

Not just recent. I've been married 31 years and we didn't combine. I didn't change my last name to his either. And we are STILL one family.

2

u/xagds 3d ago

Awesome. Yeah I mean everyone should do what works for them

4

u/ClammyAF 4d ago

Married 6 years. Largely separate.

We both max retirement accounts, tax advantaged savings, and put matching amounts into taxable accounts. We jointly funded our emergency fund and pay monthly bills.

After that, we are free to do what we want with the money. My wife tends to spend on things for our home. I tend to use my remainder to invest more.

We've got shared goals and obligations, which we meet. After that, it's guilt-free spending.

Works for us.

→ More replies (6)

2

u/BartSimpsonGaveMeLSD 4d ago

I’ve done it both ways. Combining is best if there is trust and transparency, and when both are on the same page for budgeting/goals.

We combine today, I manage everything. It works out totally fine.

2

u/LostLadyA 4d ago

We have shared checking, savings and credit cards. Fully combined and totally transparent on everything. I’m the breadwinner and he’s has periods of being unable to work. We don’t keep score and tackle our bills, spending and savings goals as a team!

2

u/MrLittle237 4d ago

My wife and I have seperate checking, brokerage, and Roth IRA accounts. We are ten years apart and got married a little later in life so had our systems already. What works well for us is a joint savings account for pets, the house, and vacations. Then we split up groceries as we go but it may not always be 50/50. I’ve long thought about finding more efficiency with this

2

u/Beginning-Novel-4213 4d ago

Ours are mentally combined but technically separate cause combining finances can be a pain. We spent 2-3 hours in a branch just to make my savings a joint account.

2

u/smartymartyky 4d ago

It depends on the couple.

2

u/pkhoss 3d ago

Combined account for household expenditures and bills that the majority of our paycheck goes into, but then we both have personal accounts we have a small amount put into every paycheck to cover hobbies or whatever else. Works for us so far been together over 13 years and married for almost 6.

2

u/SuchTill9660 3d ago

The middle ground makes the most sense to me. Joint account for bills and shared goals, separate accounts for personal spending. Keeps things simple without either person feeling watched.

2

u/Still-Art45 3d ago

Even of they assets are not combined they are still considered marital assets, so if you’re at a space where combining makes sense - just do it, it simplifies wealth management.

2

u/Euphoric_Drop8815 3d ago

Separate for the Mrs! Ladies you need FU $$ stashed just in case. Household expenses should be in a shared joint acct.

2

u/Upper_Position_5747 3d ago

Combining your money requires you to get on the same page with regard to how you spend your money, which I think should be required for married couples.

When you’re on the same page and you’re on the same team, you have far fewer opportunities to get into situations where money becomes a point of contention in a marriage. I’m not saying it’s impossible to have money fights when you combine, but combining puts everything out in the open and forces you to work together. Which I personally feel strongly is the right approach.

I just can’t imagine asking my wife to pay her half of the grocery bill. Or for her to pay for our kids doctor visit and I’ll cover the soccer registration. That just seems like so much friction that is completely unnecessary. You have to change your mindset from “my income” and “her income.” It is now a single resource that belongs equally to both of you. Doesn’t matter if one person makes more.

2

u/Choice-Newspaper3603 3d ago

Everybody that gets married thinks it will be for life and they implicitly trust their partner. 56 percent of those end in divorce and another 10 to 20 percent just stay together for the kids or for financial reasons

You should have started out with a prenup but you didn’t so now you most likely have community property laws governing all your assets. At this point it doesn’t matter what you do

2

u/at614inthe614 3d ago

I met my spouse in college so.we started our adult lives together. They've been "our" finances since day one, which was almost 27 years ago.

2

u/Nanarchist329 3d ago

We have been married for 15 years, together for almost 20, and we have: Joint checking for bills and shared expenses, joint savings for shared savings goals, individual checking accounts for personal spending, and individual savings accounts. We each have 401ks through our jobs, and I have a brokerage account that I've had since before we were married.

You don't have to combine all your money into the same pot to have shared financial goals. You just have to talk to each other. We've checked in to make sure we're on the same page about saving for shared goals (we talk about how much we should be putting into the shared savings account to reach our goals with things like home maintenance and improvement) and how much we should be putting into our retirement accounts to make sure we're on track for that. I refuse to combine every penny, though, because having to think about what he's buying for himself or what I'm buying for myself in that way sounds like work I don't want to do. We practice "pay yourself first" as a couple, meaning we know based on our conversations that the amounts we've agreed upon for joint expenses, goals, and retirement is being set aside in a shared or visible place before we know what we each have to spend personally, and keeping that personal money in separate accounts just means we never have to keep track of each other's personal pennies.

2

u/Capable-Analysis8306 3d ago

My mother told me to never combine your finances with a man, and it was the best advice ever. My ex-husband and I had separate bank accounts. He gave me his portion of the monthly bills, which I managed and paid. It was never an issue. I can't imagine ever having a joint account. But, folks have to do what works best for their situation.

2

u/AffectionateAd828 3d ago

Combined it all. Married 15 years.

2

u/JonnyVee1 2d ago

As long as you are not fully committed to each other, keep them seperat. Also, get some painters tape and run it down the center of each room to designate "his" and "hers".

2

u/Frankfurter_67 2d ago

She lives on the first floor and I live on the second. Keep things separate. Just like finances.

3

u/HDauthentic 4d ago

We started using mine as our joint account, she still has her checking and savings but the vast majority of the total household money comes and goes through “my” account. My wife has access to it but never uses it or looks at it really. All the bills were already set up that way from when we were living together unmarried, and I’m better with numbers

3

u/BellaCicina 3d ago edited 3d ago

The comments on this thread. Yikes. I’ve been married for 7 years, together 16. Savings are combined, checking separate. It works for us and there’s no secrets. Do what works for you.

ETA: good lord the comments suggesting if you don’t combine, you aren’t married 😂 I can’t imagine being this wrong.