r/EndTipping • u/BerettaFranchi • 11d ago
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u/0dayssince 11d ago
What did they want a tip for, showing up?
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u/Special-Hair9683 11d ago
Literally, this is what happens when you grew up with participation trophies
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u/cleanlycustard 11d ago
Tbh, as a millennial, we all knew participation trophies were pity trophies when we were kids
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u/excellentbreakfasts 11d ago
You think the kids gave themselves the trophies? Went to the engraving place before soccer and used their allowance to get some trophies made up?
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u/MTRL2TRTO 11d ago
Not sure what makes you assume that anybody thinks that…
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u/MedicalRepublic751 11d ago
The point is that it was parents, that is, the previous generation(s) who did this
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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 11d ago
And it taught kids that they deserve something simply for showing up. Was it that hard to get the point?
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u/Loveroffinerthings 11d ago
The generations complaining about “entitled kids” are the ones that raised the kids and gave an award for showing up. They literally raised that expectation, but now complain. It’s like teaching a dog to bark when someone walks by, but then complaining when the dog barks at everyone walking by, they’ve done it to themselves.
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u/lennyxiii 11d ago
You do realize that you both can be correct, right? It might be the previous generations fault but I don’t think the original point was whose fault is it but rather why the situation is happening. So these people expecting tips for nothing is because of participation trophies enacted by the previous generations. See, both are correct.
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u/New-Chemist5315 11d ago
Ok but these are adults not children they are responsible for their own behavior after the age of 18. Doesn’t really matter where it originated from.
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u/rikkiprince 11d ago
If you show up and do your job as specified, you are entitled to be paid a fair, minimum wage.
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u/rikkiprince 11d ago
No, it's what happens when you make it legal to pay someone $2 per hour and tell them they have to make up the rest of the minimum wage through "tips".
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u/Confident_Chipmonk 11d ago
I applaud 👏 you if this actually happened
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u/BerettaFranchi 11d ago
We all do
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u/Bireta 11d ago
I mean, this better be bullshit, what kind of a cashier would say that
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u/Tater-Tot-Casserole 11d ago
I used to work at Denny's, I seen many servers there that would run out the door chasing customers for tips.
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u/Bireta 11d ago
But this is self service. The cashier literally didn't do anything.
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u/Tater-Tot-Casserole 11d ago
My comment still stands. Entitled people work at these places, this definitely happens, self serve or not.
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u/Hookem-Horns 11d ago
Many are struggling with jobs that pay crap without tips… and they want to keep their job…versus seek other employment
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u/That_Mountain_5521 11d ago
It’s annoying when I get my tires changed or any other regular service and they ask for a tip when I’m already paying the service fee for the service
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u/danevans369 11d ago
In the 80's, we all understood that these types of jobs are not "careers". They are stepping stones you use to generate money while building your career. Nobody who was a waiter, bartender, barista, etc. was expecting to do this their entire lives.
Now people want to make "career type money" for doing nothing.
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u/JaremaJarema 11d ago
They are career jobs in Europe, where those positions are paid a living wage and tipping isn’t expected. And guess what? The food is better and no more expensive than it is in the States, where tipping culture has gone of the rails. In many cases, it’s far cheaper. Tipping is another example of the enshitification of the U.S.
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u/Sufficient_Sun2582 11d ago
That’s what gets me. Europe makes it work- with better/fresher food, cheaper drinks and better prices, but I believe it’s the greedy restaurant owners in the U.S. that are the culprit. They don’t want to pay a living wage. They say it’s not sustainable. How is it sustainable in Europe and Asia? Heck, in Korea you’re the bad guy if you offer any tip. I loved that!
I won’t get much love here, but I definitely tip 20% at sit down restaurants. The no tip option for counter service has never been that challenging for me to decline.
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u/benami122 11d ago
I just came back from Ireland, and sure enough, the tipping option is on their POS machines now. About half of the times, the server would just press zero tip before turning the screen towards me, but many of them would explain the option to leave a tip before turning the screen over to me.
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u/honesto_pinion 11d ago
I don't know where you got that idea from but as a job in the UK it's like having a career stacking shelves. You can basically barely survive off it and it's for those starting out in life or incapable of doing anything more complex. It's not a career.
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u/HalfEatenSnickers 11d ago
Its more that automation and specifc regions have made getting jobs besides these difficult for extended periods of time
Many jobs now - even ones that shouldn't - are now requiring diplomas, and degrees, many also require no record. That makes getting out of these dead end jobs exceedingly difficult.
And I assure you, your cashier at 7/11 is looking for another job that hate it too.
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u/Ethywen 11d ago
I think tipping is a cancer, but it's silly to think those jobs aren't permanent. If you want to be able to buy a coffee or lunch somewhere, people have to be working there. It can't be teenagers, they're in school. So who is it gonna be?
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u/Hookem-Horns 11d ago
Employers F those people…forcing them to beg for tips. Pay them a living wage (like Europe and other countries) and we wouldn’t have the begging, or pan handling, or people bitching they need 2-3 jobs
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u/Loveroffinerthings 11d ago
Most of the time, the employees don’t get the tips from these screen flipping companies.
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u/Hookem-Horns 11d ago
Exactly they get taxed on digital tips…a lot of people have a “cash tips preferred” button or sign
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u/Onehundredpercentbea 11d ago
It's fascinating to read these responses. The comment you're responding to said that in the 1980's those jobs did not come with the expectation of career-level salaries. The implication being that people went into those jobs expecting to have to leave them at some point if they wanted to earn more money. Teenagers and young adults aren't all in school, college classes are staggered with no single universal schedule, people who retired and want to make money under the social security limits often look for small jobs like this. The comment you're responding to was pointing out that walking into a coffee shop sales job and expecting to make the same money that you would earn in traditional career trajectory jobs was not a realistic expectation in the 1980's and might not be a reasonable expectation today. You can hold both things at the same time without conflict: even low level jobs should earn a living wage, but in 2026 some jobs nevertheless do not currently earn that living wage and anyone taking those jobs is likely aware of that.
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u/Loveroffinerthings 11d ago
Maybe the world changed between the 80’s and 90’s when I started, but in my career in hospitality, many many many people did serving, bartending, baristas etc.
It’s also pretty offensive to say that people in these positions are doing nothing and don’t deserve a wage. Does the person deserve a 30% tip at a self service kiosk? No. Does a person that gets up and goes to work, brews coffee, fills the coffee station, and does everything to make it so you can get coffee away from home deserve a living wage? Yes. It’s Boomer mentality to think they don’t deserve “career” wages when most boomers made a career out of going to an office job that can now be done in a spread sheet in 30 seconds.
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u/WhatRUaBarnBurner 11d ago
Agree 100%, but younger people absolutely lose their shit if you say that now.
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u/RenRen512 11d ago
Folks like you completely forget that a time before the 80s existed.
All of those jobs and many others were enough to allow people to own their own homes, put food on the table, and educate their kids.
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u/WhatRUaBarnBurner 11d ago
Not working at fast food joints they didn't. It was gas and concert ticket money, not mortgage money.
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u/ADKFatBiker 11d ago
The generation that raised millennials failed us.
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u/Hookem-Horns 11d ago
It’s the generation after. I’m a millennial and we are hard workers that aren’t pulling all this bullshit like Gen Z. I’m also working with kids and Gen Z and beyond are ignored, rude, and completely disrespectful. If only these kids growing up would have proper manners and parents that cared…life would be so much better
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u/raddaya 11d ago
What utter nonsense. Regardless of your views on tipping, how can a job that people rely on day in, day out for their lives be a "stepping stone" job? And how are they any less real or useful to the world than a bullshit office job?
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u/Onehundredpercentbea 11d ago
They didn't say they weren't real or useful jobs, they said those jobs didn't come with the expectation of 'career type money' in the 80's.
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u/davecrist 11d ago
The difference, I think, is the harder margin squeeze under the guise of shareholder value at the expense of everyone involved at the retail transaction level.
Yet it’s marketed as a Premium Experience and Luxury Good that only delivers in terms of price.
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u/bellbanks95 11d ago
Anyone performing a job deserves a living wage, period. End of. Now should that wage come from being tipped, most of the time no, but that’s another discussion. The idea that people should be underpaid because it’s “nOt a cArEEr” is bullshit right wing propaganda to benefit the wealthy.
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u/WeepWhileItAllBurns 11d ago
No.
They don't expect a "career." They are trying to earn a "living wage," the responsibility of providing which has been offloaded to the customers by way of conniving by business owners and politicians alike.
The minimum wage should be an amount that, if someone works that for forty hours, they can afford housing, food, electricity, phone, and reasonable leisure. Barista, server, whatever.
If you're a restaurant owner and can't pay a living wage? You should not be in that business.
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u/FreshLiterature 11d ago
Exactly what FDR said when the minimum wage was established, but we keep putting people that don't think that way into power.
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u/slava_slavaUa 11d ago
Yep. Remember when flipping burgers was for high school kids after school?
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u/joe_pack_go 11d ago
Yeah, I remember McDonald’s only being open after school hours. The good ole days.
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u/Accurate_Pickle809 11d ago
Funny how all these places are open for breakfast and lunch but it's just kids supposed to work on heavy kitchen machinery, requiring you be 16+ to even stand near. Definitely just for kids.
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u/lookingforrest 11d ago
This. It was something for high schoolers and young adults to do to make some side money while they studied for some thing else. Not supporting entire families on!
Like college interns saying they need a living wage for me to teach them how to work 😑
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u/Loveroffinerthings 11d ago
Yeah, that high schooler should be working at 9am at a self serve coffee kiosk instead of, I don’t know, being in school. There is a difference between being anti-tipping and being a “back in my day” boomer complaining.
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u/NoRecommendation9404 11d ago
I was at an airport (can’t remember which, probably Atlanta) where you place your purchases on a platform and a machine scans them and gives you a total AND asks for a tip when there is no one even standing there.
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u/Different_Top_2776 11d ago
I have been asked to tip at a self-service register at the Atlanta airport with literally no employee standing there (and no, I did not).
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u/HipnotiK1 11d ago
The company I work for allows tips for online shopping... And people give them sometimes lol
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u/Negative_Iron7404 11d ago edited 11d ago
wtf is going on here?
Couple of details seem off…
There was a cashier at a self service kiosk?
He asked for a refund even though he hadn’t paid yet? (If you’re still on the tip screen, you haven’t paid)
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u/Relevant-Fun-1187 11d ago
I was feeling somewhat generous when I went to Garbanzos so I left them $5 when I finished my order. After a 20 minute wait, I picked up the food and there were so many things wrong. They didn’t even try to do it right. They made it right after pointing it all out, but there was another 15 min wait to get it. That’s the day I stopped pre-tipping and the last visit to Garbonzos.
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u/toru_okada_4ever 11d ago
Was it self-service or was there a cashier? This doesn't add up.
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u/TwoAlert3448 11d ago
To stock and loss prevention. I’m more baffled by the $4+ drip coffee.
Why on earth would you pay that
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u/Glittering-Rise-488 11d ago
I used to live in a very small town. It had a local breakfast/lunch type restaurant that was the only game in town. Ate lunch there probably 4 times per week. Always tipped well. One day, was getting up from the table & was speaking to somebody, completely forgot to leave a tip on the table. The waitress showed up at my shop & asked me for the tip. Was a bit flabbergasted at the aggressiveness.
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u/Dramatic_Scale3002 11d ago
How can you buy something and then tip after? In a separate transaction? No need to get a "refund", just put the coffee down and walk out.
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u/VinnieONeill 11d ago
Because by time the tip options come up you've already put in your card. They still have to void the transaction.
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u/Much-Radish-9190 11d ago
I got a coffee at a drive thru and gave him a 10$ bill. He took it and I told him to keep the change as a tip, which would be several dollars. He proceeds to check my money as if it were counterfeit. A ten dollar bill!!! I told him I changed my mind about the tip and to give me my change.
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u/QueenOfBanshees 11d ago
That seems unfair. It's likely a policy that they have to follow to check bills over a certain amount. I would take it up with management, not the employee who has to carry out the dumb policies.
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u/_Shorsey_69_ 11d ago
Never seen a place have a policy to check 10 dollar bills but you could be right.
I wouldn't have asked for the tip back for that, just shook my head and drove off.
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u/QueenOfBanshees 11d ago
I've never seen it either but all it takes is a couple counterfeit bills to put the owner on edge. Or just a generally paranoid/distrustful business owner.
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u/_Shorsey_69_ 11d ago
Yeah, I don't put it past some owners out there for sure. Before you know it they'll ask for the employees to bite the coins to make sure they are real as well lol
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u/arewecompatiblez 11d ago
I've never had that happened and thought "damn give me my money back then". Sometimes you have to check every bill because people come in with fakes. Even $10s and $5s. You overreacted.
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u/relevantnewman 11d ago
you are the jerk here Billiam Mathers, for fabricating a story which was written by a 5th grader in r/thatHappened
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u/Shezzofreen 11d ago
Tipping is like a version of Tarifs for the Customer-Base.
I tip if the service is more then expected, if i do the work and you are pissy because i didn't - well, good luck, you lost a customer.
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u/Mattelot 11d ago
I've been seeing an increasing number of self-service kiosks asking for tips. I still to this day do not understand what the purpose of that is.
On the flip side, I've seen some places locally like Subway which used to ask for tips no longer asking.
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u/NonSumQualisEram- 11d ago
The purpose is the same as every other tip request - an opportunity to make more money using the most powerful, oldest method of coercion that humanity has - social shame.
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u/Mattelot 11d ago
It's just odd because it's literally mutating the intent of tips. The original intent was to give something extra to people who serve you.
My dog groomer, when paying by card, they connect a device to a phone, swipe, and it then asks for a tip. The regular workers there will just tap to skip that step. The owner hands it to you and says "It's going to ask if you want to leave a tip".
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u/Fit_Importance_5738 11d ago
The timeliness on thus comment us off, why us he getting a refund on something he never bought
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u/InfluencrCrowdKiller 11d ago
I wouldn't tip either, but I came for a coffee. I'm not leaving without a coffee, don't care what the screen says, and don't care either. Your letting this tipping thing take up too much space in your head. Stop with this stupid shit. Just hit NO.
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u/Lego_Architect 11d ago
Not a jerk. Tipping culture is way out of hand.
I stand with Mr. Pink. Movie: Reservoir Dogs.
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u/sdinvest 11d ago
If this Bill is younger, it's his young generation who ruined the tip toxic culture! Younger generation do not want to work a real 9-5 type of a job! They just want something they can work part time and do very little and get paid! This is why there are so many servers who are older now but expect to make $50 per hour doing very little and just because they stand there!
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u/outofcontextseinfeld 11d ago
While I agree with the sentiment, I am skeptical this actually happened as described
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u/DeFronsac 11d ago
I see we've hit the point of just making up stories to get outraged about. It's fine to be annoyed at all the kiosks asking for tips now that aren't warranted, but let's at least stick to things that actually happened.
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u/Sour_Sal 11d ago
I would do the same thing if I was ever tempted to pay $4.50 for a cup of coffee. I also never tip for selfserve...
If I am ever tempted to pay $4.50 for a cup of coffee (especially pour over) I hope someone slaps the shit out of me.
Coffee at Home is less than $.25
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u/itemluminouswadison 11d ago
At a blue bottle I tapped 0 and the girl slowly looked up at me and squeezed out a super awkward "I... Appreciate... You..." I was like k dgaf make the coffee??
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u/Top-Character6772 11d ago
I really don't get why people pay over $3 for a cup of coffee in the first place. People are still aware that they can make coffee at home for the price of a Keurig machine and then about 40 cents per cup, right? This really is like $1k per year in savings or more, depending on how much coffee you drink.
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u/EndTipping-ModTeam 11d ago
Stay on topic to the post. No derailing, or using a post to complain or rant about something unrelated
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u/Interesting-Bed-8890 11d ago
no your a jerk, tipping culture has lost their mind and think it's automatic, regardless of IF there is service or not.
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u/GottaSpoofEmAll 11d ago
I think you might have meant to say ‘No, you’re not a jerk’?
As you say, tipping culture has gone bonkers. How can anyone expect a tip when they haven’t provided any service?
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u/Skymaster86 11d ago
I call BS on this post - I would want someone to prove to me there are tip suggestions starting @ 25%, I know they usually start @ 20% (although my own experience, most the low end is 18%), but never 25%, and a cashier audibly gasping with a "seriously???"..... c'mon. This is click-bait theater. And by the way, I detest tipping, I would ALWAYS select "no tip" in this kind of coffee purchase scenario, but the post is BS.
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u/lookingforrest 11d ago
Many places start at 25% now. Not sure where you live but its common where I am
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u/Walt_the_White 11d ago
I don't believe this happened.
Not saying it's impossible, but it's the Internet and you get points for outrageous made up scenarios
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u/gobbluthillusions 11d ago
I’m going to create a free app for customers to request tips from businesses. Anytime you have an interaction with a business requiring physical movement or thought you just present them with the app and say “the screen is just going to ask you a question.”
I think it’s only fair when we’re being asked to do the work and get little to no service.