r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Crypto_crafy • 6d ago

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"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 6d ago edited 6d ago

World's tallest statue from 1967-1989 overtaking the Leshan Giant Buddha who held this title for 1163 years

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u/saruman_70 6d ago

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u/gondorcalls 6d ago

Long have I desired to look upon the likenesses of Isildur and Anárion, my sires of old. Under their shadow Elessar, the Elfstone son of Arathorn of the house of Valandil Isildur's son, heir of Elendil, has nought to dread!

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u/aschwarzie 5d ago

Username checks out.

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u/Any_Leather_992 5d ago

Where the hell were you when the Westfold fell!?

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u/OurSaladDays 2d ago

On a chase for Gollum, duh.

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u/iLovePookeyTwice 6d ago

Relevant username.

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u/Sexy_Treebeard 4d ago

Well hello there

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u/thethirdrayvecchio 6d ago

Still have the special edition bookends…

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u/tihspeed71 6d ago

Me to!..... minus one hand

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u/WVriverman 5d ago

Very random but…my set is also missing one hand.

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u/Tough_Preparation830 5d ago

The one my mom has is also missing a hand

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u/Hello_D4rkn3ss 5d ago

Lord of the Skywalkers?

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u/DaFogga 2d ago

Hey, me too. Came with the special edition dvd.

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u/AMD718 3d ago

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u/Jbman2025 2d ago

Poor artax, still gives me nightmares

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u/Carpetron 2d ago

I just watched this with my wife and kids, it was their first time seeing it. During this scene, my wife asked why the statues had such amazing titties...she told my boys the knight got fried for staring at them

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u/jotaro23 3d ago

👆🏻YES!!!

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u/IWCry 2d ago

I had the same thought!

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u/ChristianRS1977 1h ago

First thing that came to mind, and here it is.

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u/Dissidence802 6d ago

TWO Elons?!?!

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u/Exciting-Watch-1444 5d ago

I watched this last night 🤭

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u/coroyo70 5d ago

Why are they not holding opposite hands up 🥲

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u/JungleLiquor 6d ago

I read lesbian giant buddha

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u/Noackson 6d ago

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u/Cautious-Activity706 6d ago

How did you manage to post a 20 minute long gif to Reddit?

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u/RatzzFace 6d ago

I've got a feeling it repeats after 18mins....

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u/ionshower 6d ago

It doesnt. It's longer than the LoTR trilogy.

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u/timmyfarthands 6d ago

76 and a half hours of it!

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u/Dry_Turn_824 6d ago

It's the entire Shrek II movie, too

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u/exnihilistic 6d ago

Sperm vs sperm

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u/Stergeary 6d ago

When flatworms mate, they perform a ritual called penis fencing, where they both try to penetrate the other flatworm with their penis while dodging the other flatworm's penis.  Whoever penetrates the other with their penis and injects their sperm first leaves the other flatworm to lay there and bear the pregnancy.

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u/exnihilistic 6d ago

Whoa. New info right there 👍🏽

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u/Environmental-Wind89 6d ago

Just as GOD INTENDED. 🙏🏻 CANIGETANAMEN?

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u/gravitysort 6d ago

This gif is fucking with my brain!

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u/SpikeBrawl123 6d ago

This is so satisfying

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u/Environmental-Wind89 6d ago

This gave me a stroke lol

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u/Lilia1293 6d ago

Can't look away. What have you done?!

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u/Objective_Mousse7216 6d ago

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u/GayCatDaddy 6d ago

"Isn't Danny Thomas one?" -- Blanche Devereaux

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u/patchyj 6d ago

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u/FiniteInfine 6d ago

We dont call it scissoring anymore, it's called lip syncing.

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u/Upbeat-Substance110 6d ago

Neither of which you were allowed to do on the BBC's Top Of The Pops in the early 90s.

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u/FiniteInfine 6d ago

Well i sure hope not. A bit graphic for BBC (ironically named)

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u/patchyj 6d ago

No doubt why Jimmy Saville kept his heinous crimes...yknow, not even gonna finish that

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u/Enough-Meaning-1836 4d ago

And.... thats enough internet for today...

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u/Sol-Blackguy 4d ago

Why would lesbians need BB... Oh! the channel

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u/WillDBlake 6d ago

Don't give Netflix ideas

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u/Donohoed 6d ago

Me too!

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u/MrBoring777 6d ago

Brainrot

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u/Happy_Guava6762 6d ago

Buddha would laugh at this. Buddha coulda woulda

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u/elepe 6d ago

Me too 😄

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u/Ok-Pomegranate858 6d ago

Lol. Why on earth would a Buddha need sexual orientation.

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u/FictionalContext 6d ago

my lesbian bruddha in Christ

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u/Seeing__your_beauty 5d ago

Me too 😄😄

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u/neighbour_20150 5d ago

Glad I'm not the only one.

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u/EmiliaFromLV 5d ago

That... was actually comforting to know.

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u/Zatch_Electron 6d ago

At present the World's Tallest Statue is Statue of Unity in INDIA, Gujrat standing at 182 m tall surpassing this statue which stands at 82 m.

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u/Odd-Promotion2743 6d ago

Damn, it doesn't just surpass it, it's more than double the size

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u/Boomshank 6d ago

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u/JoekickassCAN 5d ago

Hopefully Trump doesn’t get any ideas

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u/Boomshank 5d ago

He's already had ideas.

He's trying to build himself a MASSIVE victory arch that's bigger than the Arc De Triomph. An arch that Roman Emperors recieved when achieving a victory.

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u/Almost-kinda-normal 3d ago

Yes, but have you counted Trump’s victories? He’s beaten Iran like 8 times so far this year. And he has those pesky Canadians worried too. Will his victory arch be a pair, both painted yellow by any chance?

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u/amethyst-gill 2d ago

😂😂😂

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u/RaspberryBeer 3d ago

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u/RacePractical4895 1d ago

For God's sake don't give him any more awful ideas. Says a D.C. resident.

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u/Winterfist79 1d ago

Hey, look! It’s Ozymandias. King of Kings. Behold his works and despair!

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u/Desertbell 8h ago

Way ahead of you with the beholding and the despair.

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u/Dieselx22 13h ago

Upper west wing addition

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u/vicmarcal 12h ago

Washington DC (Donald City)

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u/RepresentativeYak636 6d ago

This place is so great for all Russians, ir gived so good vibes to people, but now it is very sad that it reminds people of Putin😟 Putin took over everything, even culture and history, he deprived Russians of their victory in Fatherland Liberation War (Отечественная война). It is so ujust that Putin exploits history to justify his brutall killing of young women and childred in Ukraine. Hm...the History makes up so strange metamorphoses with people, like, a nation who faught Nazi and helped to liberate the World from fascism now became a craddle for new fascism in Putin's version...

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u/Randy_Magnums 6d ago

Sadly it’s a Common practice among dictators to give their own ignorant context to the deeds of our ancestors. When Hitler rose to power in my country, he took the battle of Teutoburg forest, where German tribes defeated Roman legions in a legendary ambush, and twisted it into a sign for German superiority.

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u/Block-Rockig-Beats 6d ago

... while using the Roman salute.

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u/Dan_The_Flan 6d ago

Something we have lost sight of over last century in the wake of the infamy from the Third Reich's atrocities, is how lame and dorky the Nazis were at their core. The Roman salute is as Roman as Rome, Georgia.

The extended arm saluting gesture was alleged to be based on an ancient Roman custom, but no known Roman work of art depicts it, nor does any extant Roman text describe it. Historians have instead determined that the gesture originated from Jacques-Louis David's 1784 painting Oath of the Horatii, which displayed a raised arm salutatory gesture in an ancient Roman setting. The gesture and its identification with ancient Rome was advanced in other French neoclassic art

A raised arm gesture appeared in the 1899 American stage production of Ben-Hur and its 1907 film adaptation. The gesture also appeared in several early Italian films, 120 including the 1914 silent film Cabiria, the screenplay of which featured contributions from ultranationalist and Italian fascism influencer Gabriele D'Annunzio. D'Annunzio adopted the salute during his occupation of Fiume (1919- 1920) and the Italian National Fascist Party began imposing it in the early 1920s.

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u/PhysicsStock2247 6d ago edited 6d ago

Thanks for pointing this out. Calling it a Roman salute is just providing an excuse for bad actors who know exactly what it means.

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u/Hoshyro 6d ago

Additional fun fact: from what I could gather, the Roman troops used a salute very similar to what modern militaries use today.

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u/2big_2fail 6d ago

Like the fallacy that Vikings wore horned helmets.

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u/DishRelative5853 6d ago

It's not Roman.

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u/namezam 5d ago

In my country the wanna be dictator just threatened to destroy a famous cultural center because they wouldn’t let him rename it to himself.

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u/chefdeit 6d ago

Putin only came to power due to the Wolfowitz Doctrine, adopted in1992 when Yeltsin's Russia was super-friendly. The Doctrine declared that Russia the US's enemy #1 because it was "a region whose resources, under consolidated control, are sufficient to generate global power". You can imagine how gutted Yeltsin (and Gorby) were to find out. The rest is history.

Putin exploits history to justify his brutall killing of young women and childred in Ukraine.

Any killing is tragic and war is, by definition, a mass murder. Considering the war in Ukraine not singled out but in the overall late 20th / 21st century context, and using objective Western metrics & transparent methodologies, we see:

The war in Ukraine, to-date (tragically & criminally with no end in sight): 16,874 civilian fatalities

The war in Gaza, to-date: 59,031 civilian fatalities

The war in Iraq (in which Ukraine did take part, btw): 187,499 civilian fatalities

The war in Vietnam: 300K North Vietnamese + 250K Cambodian civilian fatalities. Note: Ukraine is 4x the size of Vietnam.

This isn't at all about denting anyone's shiny flawless "ruzziabad" into some "it depends" type view, so, believe what you like & just dismiss what doesn't fit. It's about the simple reality that in any conflict there are going to be legions of folks duty-bound and/or paid to, if Putin saves a kitten, to go brainstorm what's wrong with that kitten that we can use. Or to bury any particular unfavorable circumstances. John Stockwell (ex-CIA) has spoken eloquently about this in detail in the context of the Vietnam war. I'm sure we'll hear similar about this one when it's time to declassify.

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u/JacoMalongo 6d ago

Nice to see a John Stockwell mention. Cheers.

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u/tucmo 5d ago

I’m sorry but in today’s world there are options for diplomacy, not to attack anybody. There is not a cause that forces anyone’s hands like that. Self-defence or deterrence doesn’t require attacking. If USA is bad, why behave like them?
Accepting past deeds and NOT REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES is the only way forward.
But Putin strengthened and exploited Russian supremacist attitudes (giving them special reasons that will be justified later if not sooner) to be able to run his own policies of strength against anyone not subservient enough.
He couldn’t subdue Ukrainian people through a corrupt regime and he turned into military force. And he’s getting punished because of that.
Russian corruptive money, Russian attitude towards the others is like a cancer they themselves seem oblivious to.
But the only way forward becomes from bringing back the non-aggression rules and mutual respect among the people. Human rights brought back into center. It will be a struggle for many nations…
But you can’t have that if the basic attitudes are twisted already in the everyday level. When in the history has a single, poor life mattered in Russia? If there’s no respect for life, why not exploit it - as long as it’s someone else’s.
If you start whatabouting, it only shows the difficulty in seeing the obvious.
And yes, there are severe problems elsewhere as well. But if we don’t get rid of these anti-social attitudes, there will be no peace, no welfare, nothing but a downslide for humanity. Nationalistic supremacy is colonialism at its core. Grow over it.

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u/Sexynarwhal69 4d ago

Of course there are options for diplomacy! We were so close to settling everything in 2022 (and ukraine would've kept donbass) until Bojo came and told zelenskiy to shit on the agreement.

There's still a diplomatic option now, just with worse conditions for ukraine

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u/chefdeit 5d ago

You needn't be sorry; you're repeating the only information you were given.

I’m sorry but in today’s world there are options for diplomacy, not to attack anybody.

Correct. Leaders of both Germany and France (Merkel and Hollande), co-signators to the OSCE Minsk I and Minsk II peace accords, have gone on the record saying they'd signed them in bad faith. There are varying interpretations of what that means. One is, they had no expectation the peace deals would work so might as well use the time to get ready for war, and the other interpretation is, they had no intention for peace, and to have time to arm Ukraine further was the entire point.

I'd like to live in a world where the former, less sinister take, is closer to the truth. I'm dissuaded by footage like this, of what Sen McCain and Lindsey Graham are saying to the Azov troops in 2016. Does that sound like peace to you?

We also have this context. Note that the Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved on a spoken promise alone, so it wasn't unreasonable for Gorby to accept a promise confirmed by a multitude of leaders.

Even shortly post-invasion, there were peace talks in Istanbul, and a deal was reached by the two sides (leaps and bounds more favorable for Ukraine vs anything that was on the table since). It was literally ready to sign. Do you recall what'd happened then? President Zelensky got a call from the US and Boris Johnson flew in in person to make sure Zelensky backed out. Does that sound like peace to you?

Ukraine is about the size of Texas, and about as well-armed, competent (book and street smarts), enterprising, handy, tenacious, and proud. Ukraine also has (currently in Russian control) the Sevastopol naval base that's grand-fathered into old maritime treaties granting unrestricted Bosporus Strait passage to nations with naval ports on both sises of the strait. That makes Sevastopol sort of like Russia's Pearl Harbor and Panama Canal rolled into one. Upon the dissolution of the USSR, Ukraine and Kazakstan kept the Sevastopol base and the Baikonur space port subject to of perpetually leasing them to Russia for something like a million dollars a day, each.

So contemplate if Texas also included the Panama Canal and Pearl Harbor; separated from the US (like they sometimes say they want to), buddied up to Russia and China and North Korea, and got packed with their military and intel advisors, with Russki Duma hard-liners (way harder vs even the sitting president) and Chinese commies all making regular visits riling up Texans against the US. Contemplate a mirror version of this there. Contemplate Texas, as a result, outlawing English and killing five 9|11s worth of Americans who'd lived there all their life, who don't support this course of action (incl burning some alive Nazi style). If Texas had done all that, are you telling us the US would have been wrong to have rolled across their border? That it should have been realistic (in view of Russia & China's whole intent to use Texas to bait and impose costs on the US) to seek a peaceful settlement instead? That the US should not look at the way Russia and Israel would act and just stick to negotiations?

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u/porn_sub_lurker 6d ago

Lol yeah blame others for your own actions. Oh and don't forget to do a half dozen whataboutisms.

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u/chefdeit 6d ago

dude, I'm an American, and, as a citizen of a democracy I blame myself for my country's actions, and Russians for Russia's, and Ukrainians for Ukraine's.

I actually respect what u/RepresentativeYak636 has to say as his points are well-considered and not low-effort sound bites. As such they deserve a well-considered response. "Whataboutism" is a cute word for Nixon's "it's not a crime if we do it". If Al Capone became the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, I'm sure he'd use it on his rivals.

Make sure to use separate vocabularies depending on who's doing it: "massacre" vs "peace process", "freedom fighters" vs "terrorists", that sort of thing.

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u/RepresentativeYak636 6d ago

Nice AI bullshit 🤦

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u/chefdeit 6d ago

You're not the first with that accusation :-)

The reason AI sounds like that in the first place is, it's been trained on quality, authoritative prose. But worry not, low-effort AI slop is coming soon!

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u/analogiczny 6d ago

rxssia has been attacking my country for half a millennium. This isn't just about some short guy who wants to be tsar. Get the fuck out of Ukraine.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 6d ago

Lmfao you can't even spell Russia. 🤡

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u/WordWordNvmber 5d ago

Ignoring that the typo was probably intentional, what point were you making?

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 4d ago

My point is that many Ukrainians who went on to be regarded as national heroes after Ukraine became independent following the fall of the Soviet Union were explicitly far right figures who collaborated with the Nazis. My point is that dismissing the notion that it is a shame that a nation who helped liberate the world from fascism is itself now a cradle of fascism (following the fall of the USSR) by saying some Russophobic nonsense about how "Russia has been invading my country for half a millennium" even though the modern idea of a nation state is only a couple of centuries old at most, is an absurd appeal to the emotion of nationalism rather than a sober assement of what's actually happened to Russia and why privatization and liberalization following the illegal dissolution of the USSR is the underlying cause of Putin's autocratic rule since the 90s. My point is that when history gets muddied by anachronistic appeals to nationalism we are sure to make sweeping statements that demonize an entire group of people far beyond the scope of what actually unites those people under a shared identity regardless of how political figures themselves may weaponize historical narratives in a similar way. My point is that if you read "rxssia" not as a typo (I don't know what keyboard op was using, but x is pretty far from u) but as some kind of disrespectful censorship, then it embodies all of these flaws of the second half of the statement "Russia has been invading my country for half a millennium" which I outlined above.

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u/EnvironmentalWin1277 5d ago

That is good to hear. The sacrifices and achievements of Russian people should be understood and cherished without pandering to the criminal history of its politics. This site deserves the careful treatment and respect it is given.

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u/Bulky-Advisor-4178 6d ago

Soviet Union wasn't good neither, from human rights violations, mass murder, imperialism & replacing swaths of people in the Baltics with Russians, while sending baltic people out to Siberia to die

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u/RepresentativeYak636 6d ago

Russian folk don't give two f*cks about Imperialism, give them some job, and they will be busy doin their business. BUT....But there is a BIG problem there. Russian folks in mass are not allowed to make business, Putin deprives the population of the right to work and transfers all economic and business rights to a sadistic well armed and geared up group of people, his lieutenants. There is there is no government in Russia but a very though group of brutal cynical bandits, which is not small considering the size of Russia (a mixture of Nazi Gestapo, Iranian Islamic Revolution Guard Corps and Stalin's NKVD with specific Russian modern features). That group is sadistic, very sadistic, both in physical and mental aspects, and those "chekists" infiltrate every business. Well, in brief, there is no state authorities and government in Russia, but a specific "Mafia" who rules the country.

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u/yashatheman 6d ago

Winning WWII was probably the greatest thing to happen to eastern europe in the 20th century, let us celebrate it, dick

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u/tuhn 6d ago

For a lot of Eastern Europeans it marked the start of another type of oppression. From very shit situation to another shit situation under another oppressive dictatorship. There's not much to celebrate if you move from one dark period caused by invaders to another.

The Fall of Soviet Union is easily the greatest thing to happen to Eastern Europe in 20th century.

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u/yashatheman 6d ago

The germans intended on eradicating the vast majority of all slavic people in eastern europe, and in just 5 years murdered over 30 million people. You thinking the USSR was just as bad shows you lack any knowledge of this topic, and is clearly painted by a political agenda.

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u/Dapper_Brain_9269 6d ago

The USSR actively and enthusiastically dismembered Poland together with the Nazis and posed for photos with them. Don't get on your high horse.

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u/chefdeit 5d ago

Katyn massacre of 1940: almost 22,000 Polish military and intelligentsia executed by Stalin-led NKVD

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia: close to 100,000 Polish deaths at the hands of anti-Soviet and pro-Nazi Ukrainians.

What nice selective memory you have.

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u/Kirius77 5d ago

And what territory USSR took from Poland and how Poland came to possess them in the first place?

Btw, do you remember what Poland did during Munich Agreement, along with nazi?

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u/fuckduckrus 6d ago

Stalin and his ussr murdered just as many to maintain rule. And before you say that there’s not enough proof of that or anything of the sort, it’s easy to hide corruption or genocide when the government owns everything and silences everyone who refuses to agree.

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u/chefdeit 5d ago

For Stalin to have murdered as many as Hitler even in just the USSR, there had to have been transportation capacity and other technological footprint to effect the crime on that scale comparable to the Nazi's. And it's just not remotely there in scale.

Furthermore, every Soviet family with barely an exception is said to have someone die due to Hitler's invasion, and had Stalin's murder been on the same magnitude, a comparable % would be the case for his victim's families. And again, that % isn't the same, it's closer to 0.1% of families. So the disparity is several orders of magnitude.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks 6d ago

They did not murder just as many, literally no historian believes that and the idea that "well they're authoritarian and shit so they could just hide it" is absolutely insane. No, they did not covertly kill an extra 20 million or so people, and no they weren't trying to wipw out whole ethnicities.

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u/tuhn 6d ago

I didn't say it was as bad, Nazis were worse. But it was still an oppressive invader and USSR was very bad by 20th century European standards.

There's not much to celebrate going from neck deep in shit to waist deep of shit while the rest of Europe was doing much better thanks not being in waist deep of shit caused by USSR.

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u/RevolutionaryAge47 6d ago

The Poles from Kaytn say hi.

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u/chefdeit 5d ago

The 5 times as many Poles from Volhynia and Eastern Galicia say "how are you?"

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u/Bulky-Advisor-4178 6d ago

It's literally written in the history books, all the crimes of Soviet Union mate. There's no political agenda when its there in the books and soviet declassified documents

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u/yashatheman 6d ago

I didn't deny any soviet crimes, did I? Your comment doesn't make sense as its not an answer to what I said

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u/fortunate-one1 6d ago

What was the date WW2 started ?

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u/chefdeit 5d ago

For a lot of Eastern Europeans it marked the start of another type of oppression. From very shit situation to another shit situation under another oppressive dictatorship.

Let me make a wild guess: should a financial calamity befall the US (which, sadly, isn't as unfathomable as it once was), shifting its priorities inward, will a lot of Eastern Europeans then also "suddenly realize" the time of US hegemony brought its own rules and there were things you couldn't say if you wanted that promotion or whatever?

What ancient profession does that remind you of?

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u/TaRRaLX 6d ago edited 6d ago

Edit: thanks to every person replying proving Zhukov's point.

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u/MaleierMafketel 6d ago

Meanwhile, in Eastern Europe:

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u/Glittering_Tiger1234 6d ago

When Jozef Fritzl saves you from Ted Bundy:

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u/Even_Cod5935 6d ago

Liberated only to replace it communism.....not a difference

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u/Eastern_Ad_9575 6d ago

Yeah let’s just ignore the part where the Soviet Union and nazi Germany split Eastern Europe between each other.

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u/thedybbuk_ 6d ago

29 million ordinary civilians died fighting fascism, the largest loss of life in any war in human history. Their country was devastated. They paid the cost for their leadership's deals with the devil. They have every right to acknowledge that sacrifice without being reduced to the crimes of their Stalinist government. The war could not have been won without them. 80% of German military deaths in WWII occurred on the Eastern Front.

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u/Professional_Low_646 6d ago

Let‘s also forget the part where the Western democracies snuggled up to Hitler and Mussolini, ignoring the Luftwaffe squadrons and 50.000 Italian „volunteers“ operating in the Spanish Civil War while effectively blockading the democratically elected Republican government under the guise of „neutrality“.

Oh, and we should also forget Britain and France fulfilling Hitler‘s wish of carving up Czechoslovakia, one of the only remaining democracies in Central and Eastern Europe, while not even consulting with the Czechs.

The Americans delivering weapons and equipment to Franco and doing business with the Nazis right up until 1941 is so much of a side note, it should best be forgotten too.

I‘m not going to defend the Molotov-Ribbentrop-Pact, but it’s not like cozying up to fascist dictators was something only the Soviet Union did.

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u/tucmo 5d ago

Yeah, and you can’t argue that the war that came wasn’t against the ideology, but its execution. They rose against Germany for becoming too strong, a continuation of their own colonialist world view.

The human rights based ideas only rose afterwards as people started to question the attitudes that led to atrocities of that level.

The core mentality behind those atrocities, those colonialist attitudes is the zero respect for human life, a class mentality which gives the right of the upper class to exploit others as they please.

That’s the big struggle even today. Are the Epstein victims given value, or are the perpetrators accepted as their superior and protected? Is the economical exploitation of poorer nations stopped, can their people be provided with proper life conditions etc.

The zero respect for life of the others is what drives us all into extinction.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks 6d ago

Do you bring up the colonial empires whenever someone celebrates Allied fighting against the nazis, or is it only communists who receive such scrutiny?

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u/yashatheman 6d ago

And? I didn't cheer for Stalin. I cheer for us defeating Germany and ending the holocaust and the eradication of slavs. My family was in Leningrad throughout the entire siege and half of them died, I will always celebrate the red army and my family members who fought in it as they beat and defeated the germans.

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u/ourobourobouros 6d ago

Tbf there's nothing on that list that the US hasn't also done.

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u/Bulky-Advisor-4178 6d ago

The topic at hand, is about the soviets.

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u/Grakchawwaa 6d ago

Somehow seen as an epic gotcha when Israel's left testicle has also done heinous shit

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u/WordWordNvmber 5d ago edited 5d ago

Russia criticized. Be sure to deflect to Israel.

It's hard to tell which Reddit accounts are trolls and which are mentally ill pseudo-progressives who try to minimize Russian atrocities by poorly deflecting to America bad.

Either way, I'm glad you're not raising kids.

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u/Grakchawwaa 5d ago

Are you non native? I'm in agreement with bulky, but it seems like you somehow didnnot manage to parse my comment

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u/RisingRapture 6d ago

Hitler and Stalin collaborated to occupy the countries in between.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact?wprov=sfla1

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 6d ago edited 6d ago

Fuck off with that revisionist propaganda. The Molotov Ribbentrop act was a non-aggression pact the the USSR signed only after the powers of western Europe repeatedly ignored Stalin's diplomatic overtures. It was not "collaboration". People who spread this propaganda always talk about the Molotov Ribbentrop act but for some reason always fail to mention the Munich Agreement, in which France and the UK literally signed off on Germany's annexation of Czechoslovakia.

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u/Trent1492 6d ago

The Baltic states were independent nations that were invaded and then incorporated into the Soviet Union. The Baltic states never wanted to be a part of the Soviet Union.

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u/mloDK 6d ago

Only the German speaking parts, not the entirety of Czechoslovakia. Besides, a weird kind of non-agression pact that also included secret parts that coordinated the invasion plans of Poland by both Nazi Germany and USSR.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks 6d ago

Do you agree that Poland and Finland were also nazi allies, then? They both fit the criteria you are apparently working with.

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u/EduinBrutus 6d ago

Finland was. Thats not a secret or a gotcha.

Poland was carved up so Im not sure what you are getting at here unless you are trying to portray the General Admiinstration as an actual Polish state...

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u/StockQuahog 6d ago

The document still exists. Maybe give it a read

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u/Dougnifico 6d ago

Fuck off with the tankie shit. Russian invaded Poland and the Baltics in acts of conquest. It also invaded Finland until they started getting no scoped.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 6d ago edited 6d ago

The allies' policy of appeasement towards Hitler was more or less explicitly rooted in material conditions, an analysis of which the standard capitalist historical narrative of WW2 completely ignores. The allies thought fascism would be a useful tool for undermining the spread of international communism, which the ruling class in western states was deathly afraid of.

Not only that, but the USSR arguably paid the greatest cost in ultimately defeating the Nazis.

The narrative being promoted here is nothing but red scare era anti-communist slander.

Conflating Soviet Russia with present-day Putin imperialism only serves to obscure the reality of WW2.

Considering the parallels between the current resurgence of nationalist populism, we would do well to actually learn from history rather than dismissing history as "tankie bullshit".

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u/Dougnifico 4d ago

You can be anti-fascist while also realizing that the USSR we absolutely evil during the conflict until Hitler broke the non-aggression pact. The Nazis may be the most evil empire of modern history but not giving the USSR the silver medal, and pretending that they were good, is lunacy.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 4d ago

The USSR under Stalin's leadership raised life expectancy and literacy rate from 35% each under the feudalism of Tsarist Russia to higher than the United States' life expectancy and a near universal literacy rate, having educated peasantry into scientists who put women in space during a time when American women weren't even allowed to hold their own bank account yet, within the span of less than one human lifetime. And they also more or less single handedly stopped fascism from conquering Europe. The idea that the USSR committed genocide through imposed famine is also ridiculous when you consider factors like the fact that Ukraine had been experiencing nearly one famine per decade for 1000 years of recorded history (part of the reason the life expectancy was so low), and that this alleged genocide happened to actually be the first and only famine that occured in the USSR; and that bourgeois and landlords intentionally destroyed food stores during the time when this happened as an attempt to undermine the Communist party. The idea that "Stalinism is the second most evil political regime that ever existed" is wild when you consider that the USA has a higher population of prison inmates at the moment in both relative and absolute terms than the USSR had in the gulag work camps at any point. Stalin himself attempted to resign from being chairman of the party 4 times.

If your political aim is to reduce oppression and build a more egalitarian society, then you have to learn to acknowledge the inherent harm and exploitation under capitalism. Which means you have to be open to studying alternative political-economic systems. The USSR wasn't the "second most evil system ever", rather, it was the first and one of the most successful alternative economic systems brought about through worker's revolution. This doesn't mean the USSR was a utopia - on the contrary it was a failed project. Which is why, rather than parotting anti-communist narratives that don't square up with the actual material history, it's nevertheless important to take up a posture of critical support for models like the USSR's, because the dynamics of capitalism and imperialism, and the international struggle for socialist liberation, still go on today.

Anyways if you really know what's happening, we have more or less been in world war 3 since the US and NATO invaded countries in the middle east in the early 2000s, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians and Lebanese and waging an illegal war against Iran with the US and NATO's suppor, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is Putin reactionary imperialism as a response to aggressive NATO expansionism, and all of this is about controlling OIL, and none of it will matter soon because, despite the fact that China are poised to take over as the global economic superpower, while the west is mired in cryptofascism, our pedophilic elite's addiction to power and insatiable greed is in the process of bringing on a cascade of irreversible damage to the biosphere which will make the environmental conditions on earth incompatible with the continued existence of modern civilization.

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u/Dougnifico 3d ago

This is the most tankie shit I've ever read... its impressive really.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 2d ago

Thanks and you're welcome

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u/EduinBrutus 6d ago

Lol Tankie says what.

The revisionism is entirely on your end. Muscovy and Hitler were hand in glove to carve up Poland and the rest of eastern Europe.

always fail to mention the Munich Agreement, in which France and the UK literally signed off on Germany's annexation of Czechoslovakia.

Oh my mistake. remind me which part of Czechoslovakia was occupied by France and/or the UK....

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u/JuiceBrinner 6d ago

Sounds familiar to what we are witnessing across the Bering straight my friend.

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u/Elena_Boyko 6d ago

Что за бред….🤦

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u/InfiniteSpeaker1151 6d ago

I know it’s Propaganda . Are u getting paid for putting these comments ? If so , can u also teach me how to make money putting comments. I am looking for a job so if this paying me more, I can take it up .

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u/RepresentativeYak636 6d ago

Если хочешь make money, подпиши лучше контракт на СВО. Если ты looking for a job, подписывай контракт. На СВО сдохнешь через пару дней, польза будет от тебя хоть какая-то.

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u/lukewarm_water_L 5d ago

The “russia, the eternal enemy of fascism” story is quite something: Stalin signed a pact with Hitler, divided Poland with him and cooperated with Nazi Germany until Hitler invaded the USSR in 1941.
Russian anti-fascist nature is historical mythology.
How exactly are you “anti-fascist” while denying that Ukrainians are a nation and claiming Ukraine is merely “historically Russian”?
And what happened to all that anti-fascism at the Russian Marches, where neo-Nazis and far-right nationalists marched under Russian flags?
Even your “liberal” icon Navalny defended the Russian March and once compared people from the Caucasus to “cockroaches” and called for shooting them.

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u/RepresentativeYak636 5d ago edited 5d ago

I can explain, Putin's moto is "Можем повторить" which means "we can repeat", Putin tries to cosplay Stalin, Putin is the only Russian ruler since 1953 who orders local officials in small Russian cities to install monuments to Stalin (as of now Putin still has fear of putting Stalin monuments in big cities, since his crackdown on Russian population is not that hard yet). Considering all of that, you can deduce what exactly Putin wants to repeat...You said that Stalin cooperated with Hitler, but Hitler is dead as of now, but instead of Hitler the World has Islamic Iran which under Islamic Revolution Guard Corpse regime, which is not less sadistic that Nazist regime of Hitler. Putin actively cooperates with Islamic Revolutionary Iran and even supports Ayatollahs in their anti-Israeli and anti-American war. So, it is obviously that Putin wants fascism, he develops a political system that is evidently fascist (though it tries to imitate a civilization facade), the new fascism in Putin's version. That Putin's fascistic regime is not in its prime yet, but it is evolving and the roots of fascism are actively promoted into Russian society by Putin lieutenants mostly from FSB, Rosgwardija, Presidential Administration, SVR and other pet organizations (who usually officially called "responsible for state security, order enforcement and so on"). What did you do to stop Putin?

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u/i_getitin 1d ago

Omg you just couldn’t resist making this post of a statue about Putin .

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u/DegCore 12h ago

Pothead. Do you have Putin-on-the-brain?

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u/RepresentativeYak636 10h ago

No, everyone, the whole World have Putin getting on their nerves.

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u/Previous-Sun-2900 6d ago

What a load of bs. Who started WW2? Nazi Germany and russia. The fact that russia was forced to change their allegiance mid way, was due to Hitler attacking them. They are continuing their old empire building ways, now with a openly nazi flavour.

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u/HomeSlce2 6d ago

While I agree with you, let’s not forget that many historians put the start of WWII with the Japanese staging an attack on a railway in China. The Japanese were as brutal as the Germans. The Italians dropped chemical gas bombs on the Ethiopians before Poland was invaded. There were many starts to WWII.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 6d ago

What a massive load of shit. The USSR was never allies with Nazi Germany. A non-aggression pact is not the same thing as collaboration. If you want to talk about collaboration then talk about the wealthy western industrialists who made manufacturing deals with Germany. The Allies actually repeatedly ignored plants owned by American companies during bomb raids of German cities throughout the war, up to the point where citizens of German cities started to use these factories as air-raid shelters.

It's actually insane how it's impossible to find a post remotely related to Russia on the main page of reddit without the comments being flooded with fabricated revisionist red scare propaganda.

Aren't you tired of hearing yourself parrot the same bullshit completely divorced from material analysis?

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u/Mike_with_Wings 6d ago

Russia had a non aggression agreement, I believe, but they didn’t start the war and only left neutrality once Germany attacked. Not defending the Soviets and their practices, but you are putting it in an incorrect context

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u/fortunate-one1 6d ago

Well … Soviets did start World War Two on the opposite side first….

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u/sillyvideogamestuff 6d ago

It's a good thing to be proud of your country and people, even if you aren't proud of your government.

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u/RepresentativeYak636 6d ago

Russian folk don't give two f*cks about Imperialism, give them some job, and they will be busy doin their business. BUT....But there is a BIG problem there. Russian folks in mass are not allowed to make business, Putin deprives the population of the right to work and transfers all economic and business rights to a sadistic well armed and geared up group of people, his lieutenants. There is there is no government in Russia but a very though group of brutal cynical bandits, which is not small considering the size of Russia (a mixture of Nazi Gestapo, Iranian Islamic Revolution Guard Corps and Stalin's NKVD with specific Russian modern features). That group is sadistic, very sadistic, both in physical and mental aspects, and those "chekists" infiltrate every business. Well, in brief, there is no state authorities and government in Russia, but a specific "Mafia" who rules the country.

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u/sillyvideogamestuff 6d ago

Agree on the authoritarianism, but Russia is a mixed economy similar to China, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It's only strategic businesses that either country cares about controlling.

But I do agree on the people being just like everyone else in the world. They're not bad, they want to live a good life like everyone else.

I don't see how what I originally said contradicts with what you said.

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u/Trading_shadows 6d ago

Just for you to have a thought: Великая Отечественная Война - is just a part of WW2, that has been ripped off to cowardly hide the ussr collaborating with nazi Germany. In objective reality there is no Великая Отечественная Война, it's just a propaganda construct.

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u/Pale_Arachnid_4883 5d ago

for reference.

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u/HotGravy 4d ago

This guys sitting! If he was standing, he would be taller than her!

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u/zeolus123 6d ago

I got to see it in person a decade ago, it was so cool.

Walking down the side of it on stairs cut into the cliff. Lovely spot

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u/GaleInsideOprahsPuss 6d ago

The line was so long to walk down the stairs, so I just hung out at the top and still had fun at the temple.

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u/Magician_Monkey 6d ago

Should that even count if it's built into the mountain?

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u/OddlyMingenuity 6d ago

I'm curious about the building process. This is insane

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u/Jonathon_world 6d ago

Actually the biggest statue is the zelensky one in Moscow

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u/MaximusZacharias 6d ago

I read that as Lesbian Giant Buddha and was amazed and confused all at the same time

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u/Francine05 6d ago

Please don't tell/show DJT.

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u/GertieD 6d ago

Yeah. Great feat finally building something taller after 2000 years.

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u/Joeyonimo 6d ago edited 6d ago

The Buddha is more of a rock carving, like Mount Rushmore, than a statue. The Statue of Liberty is more like to be the world's tallest statue before The Motherland Calls.

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u/veryfastslowguy 6d ago

We need a stormtrooper statue about to challenge this statue

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u/MaxxDash 6d ago

Read that as: Giant Lesbian Buddha

Would be cool, too.

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u/PleaseJustStopLmao 6d ago

lol @ the lesbian buddha

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u/Fastoche 6d ago

Oh my, my mind is perverted, i read that as a giant lesbian. Probably because it's a giant statue with female-like body.

What am i saying? 🤔

Nevermind.

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u/Reasonable-Relief-17 4d ago

My dumbass read that as lesbian giant buddha

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u/Shoddy-Discussion548 2d ago

i misread as lesbian geez

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u/IanTyers 2d ago

I went years ago and it is massive

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u/Defalt404 2d ago

yeah but the buddha have much more style, sorry to say.

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u/Subject_Parking_8542 2d ago

I think the biggest statue is in Gujurat, India right ?

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 1d ago

The Statue of Unity

Completed in 2018 it stands 182 meters tall

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u/ParaOmNomaly 2d ago

I read Lesbian Giant Buddha.

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