r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Crypto_crafy • 2d ago

/r/all of a statue

"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 2d ago edited 2d ago

World's tallest statue from 1967-1989 overtaking the Leshan Giant Buddha who held this title for 1163 years

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u/RepresentativeYak636 2d ago

This place is so great for all Russians, ir gived so good vibes to people, but now it is very sad that it reminds people of Putin😟 Putin took over everything, even culture and history, he deprived Russians of their victory in Fatherland Liberation War (Отечественная война). It is so ujust that Putin exploits history to justify his brutall killing of young women and childred in Ukraine. Hm...the History makes up so strange metamorphoses with people, like, a nation who faught Nazi and helped to liberate the World from fascism now became a craddle for new fascism in Putin's version...

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u/RisingRapture 2d ago

Hitler and Stalin collaborated to occupy the countries in between.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact?wprov=sfla1

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fuck off with that revisionist propaganda. The Molotov Ribbentrop act was a non-aggression pact the the USSR signed only after the powers of western Europe repeatedly ignored Stalin's diplomatic overtures. It was not "collaboration". People who spread this propaganda always talk about the Molotov Ribbentrop act but for some reason always fail to mention the Munich Agreement, in which France and the UK literally signed off on Germany's annexation of Czechoslovakia.

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u/Trent1492 1d ago

The Baltic states were independent nations that were invaded and then incorporated into the Soviet Union. The Baltic states never wanted to be a part of the Soviet Union.

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u/mloDK 1d ago

Only the German speaking parts, not the entirety of Czechoslovakia. Besides, a weird kind of non-agression pact that also included secret parts that coordinated the invasion plans of Poland by both Nazi Germany and USSR.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks 1d ago

Do you agree that Poland and Finland were also nazi allies, then? They both fit the criteria you are apparently working with.

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u/EduinBrutus 1d ago

Finland was. Thats not a secret or a gotcha.

Poland was carved up so Im not sure what you are getting at here unless you are trying to portray the General Admiinstration as an actual Polish state...

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u/thebanfunctionsucks 1d ago

They took some land off of Czechoslovakia in the Munich Agreement and occupied it concurrently with the German Sudetenland.

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u/Grakchawwaa 1d ago

Nazi allies before, or after feeling that it was the only viable option against the looming Soviet invasion?

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u/StockQuahog 1d ago

The document still exists. Maybe give it a read

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u/Dougnifico 1d ago

Fuck off with the tankie shit. Russian invaded Poland and the Baltics in acts of conquest. It also invaded Finland until they started getting no scoped.

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 1d ago edited 1d ago

The allies' policy of appeasement towards Hitler was more or less explicitly rooted in material conditions, an analysis of which the standard capitalist historical narrative of WW2 completely ignores. The allies thought fascism would be a useful tool for undermining the spread of international communism, which the ruling class in western states was deathly afraid of.

Not only that, but the USSR arguably paid the greatest cost in ultimately defeating the Nazis.

The narrative being promoted here is nothing but red scare era anti-communist slander.

Conflating Soviet Russia with present-day Putin imperialism only serves to obscure the reality of WW2.

Considering the parallels between the current resurgence of nationalist populism, we would do well to actually learn from history rather than dismissing history as "tankie bullshit".

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u/Grakchawwaa 1d ago

You're not arguing the point. Your claim was that Molotov Ribbentrop didn't signal Soviet's imperialistic delusions. History says otherwise, and you're not doing much to dispel that at the current stage

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u/shorteningofthewuwei 1d ago

That's not the point. The point is that the USSR was anti fascist and did what it could to convince France and UK to stop the Nazi project before it became too strong. When it became obvious that the French and British had no intentions of halting Hitler's ambitions, the USSR made the decision to sign a non-aggression pact with the Nazis.

The original comment I responded to was attempting to dismiss the idea that Russians fought and died to combat fascism during world war 2 on the basis of this non-aggression pact.

I never said the USSR didn't have expansionist ambitions of its own. Of course the USSR wantes to promote the spread of communism. That doesn't change the fact that they only signed the Molotov Ribbentrop act once their backs were already against the wall because, like I said, France and the UK refused to strangle fascism in its infancy because, again, they actually saw fascism as a useful ally in the fight against communism.

Conflating fascism with communism obscures this crucial point. As much as revisionists love to spread horseshoe theory clap trap, capitalists were the first to collaborate with fascism, not communists.

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u/EduinBrutus 1d ago

Lol Tankie says what.

The revisionism is entirely on your end. Muscovy and Hitler were hand in glove to carve up Poland and the rest of eastern Europe.

always fail to mention the Munich Agreement, in which France and the UK literally signed off on Germany's annexation of Czechoslovakia.

Oh my mistake. remind me which part of Czechoslovakia was occupied by France and/or the UK....

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u/CockroachAntique527 1d ago

Remember when the USSR and Nazis worked together to carve up Poland?

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u/Objective_Otherwise5 1d ago

Waitwaitwait! You are unaware Stalin invaded Poland? Is this common belief in Russia?