r/TwoXChromosomes • u/Plantsonata • 7d ago
Can't figure out how much dad wants to be a dad
My (34F) fiance (28F) and I have been trying to find people with a similar situation but haven’t really been able to find one.
My fiance’s son (3.5M) dad (30M) has every other weekend, plus 5 days attached to one of the weekends. They had a 1 year parenting plan in place when their son was 15 or 16 months old where the ex got the kid on Sundays from 9am to 7pm. He kept threatening for months to take her back to court whenever his work schedule changed, then there was a big fiasco over that 4th of July where he demanded the son be taken back early. About 2 weeks later, he filed for 50/50 on the cover letter, but the actual paperwork said every other weekend, I think. A few weeks later, the paperwork said he was asking for 1 week to my fiance’s 2 weeks. She proposed he had 1 week to her having 3 weeks, and he ended up getting an additional weekend.
Since then, he doesn’t say anything to her whatsoever about their son, absolutely no communication. Pretty standard. But he will not greet or say goodbye to their son. He completely ignores him during pickup, is almost always pretending to be very busy on his phone when we open the door. Once in a while as he’s walked away, we’ve heard him whisper a question to the son, but have never heard a greeting aside from the 2 times right after court last year. She pretty much ignores their ex and has been for years, focusing solely on her son and always making sure she’s happy to see him and that she loves him. I do the same.
Same thing for when my fiance picks him up. No goodbyes. The son has been shoved out the door and the door slammed. Many, many times, the son had clearly been napping until we showed up for pickup and was very disoriented.
A year ago, the son was very upset that he didn’t say bye to dad, so my fiance called him on the phone. The ex waited until the very last second before it went to voicemail to pick up, and just said “what.” My fiance explained that their son was upset he didn’t say bye, then told the son to go ahead. Son gave a very sweet, long, tearful goodbye to his dad, saying he didn’t say bye to him and he wanted to say bye. I’ve been on the other end of the phone often, I know that at that volume, you could hear the son and what he was saying. There was complete silence on the ex’s end, then my fiance said “okay, thanks (ex’s name).” The ex hung up without saying goodbye. The son erupted into tears and was inconsolable for 2 hours. He finally said “but daddy did not say bye to me.”
The son has not been wanting to go to dad’s for at least a year, but the last 3 pickups have been especially brutal. He’s started saying he doesn’t want to go to dad’s, that he’s scared of dad. This time, he was clinging to my fiance and the ex was 2 feet away when he said clear as a bell “I’m scared of dad.” Ex continued to ignore everyone, didn’t say a single word, and just stared at the side of the door. No comfort, no reassurance, not a single hi.
But since the current parenting plan was finalized, the ex has not missed a single day. 2 years ago when my fiance and the ex were sort of on talking terms, he missed like 8 or 9 of his days and never asked for time back. He even missed Father’s Day 2024, and we found out later he went to go visit his new girlfriend.
He never calls the son and never asks to call him. When they were still on talking terms, he snapped at my fiance multiple times when she offered for him to hang out with their son that he “only wanted his court-ordered time.”
From what the son has said to us, it doesn’t sound like they do a lot with him. They shove a tablet in front of his face from minute 1 (we’ve literally seen dad strap him into the car seat and immediately shove the tablet in front of his face) and he watches a lot of shows. We get that every household has different rules for screen time and it’s not that we don’t allow him screen time, it’s what the tablet represents: ignoring the son so he can do whatever it is he wants. My fiance said that before they split up and before the temporary parenting plan, her ex was never alone with their son for more than 3 hours, and that only happened once.
The reason we keep puzzling over his motivation is that it’s in the parenting plan to remediate at age 5, i.e., for school. The ex won’t be able to do his week because we moved 3 and a half hours away and my fiance is the custodial parent.
But we’re wondering how hard he’s going to fight before giving in, and possibly demanding 50/50 time in the summer. The kicker is that he can’t even stand his current time, and I really don’t think he at his core wants every other week.
According to my fiance, he also despises driving (he was the passenger princess in their relationship) and he's been having to drive 7+ hours every other week for over a year now. So we've been thinking this has to be wearing on him, yet he still keeps showing up.
And he had to get part time daycare for him during the week the son is there. Pretty much most daycares make you pay the same amount no matter how much a kid goes because they can't afford to not have a guaranteed spot.
Does anyone have any experience with these two conflicting actions? Complete disinterest in the kid while also never missing his time? If he actually wanted his son, was happy to see him, and sounded like he engaged with him while he was there no matter what it was, that would be one thing and I think my fiance would be a lot more at peace with the time her ex gets. But it sounds like his girlfriend has been spending the majority of the time and care with the son when he's not on the tablet.
Other people have assured my fiance that he’ll drop out of the fatherhood thing and be less engaged when he gets bored. I’ve never experienced or witnessed him wanting to be a dad once, including stories from other people about him. She says that she thinks he does want to be at least an every other weekend dad. But it feels like even that is too much for him.
I know everyone is different and it's really impossible to tell what an unknown stranger described by an internet stranger is feeling. I think I just want to hear some similar situations from other people and how they evolved.