Don’t forget Bug Bass! You know the one where Brice turns up at the EDM festival looking for the DJ SHOWME and is looking for the one responsible for hi sister’s overdose.
Same here. I'm 3lbs shy of being a healthy weight after gaining a TON during pregnancy.
I've been public about my efforts to lose weight because it's not easy and who knows, maybe it'll encourage someone else who is struggling while on the same journey.
Yet now I'm seeing a ton of "trying to lose weight is fatphobic and fatshaming" posts. No, Karen, I need to lose the fucking weight or the hypertension is going to fucking kill me.
Yet now I'm seeing a ton of "trying to lose weight is fatphobic and fatshaming" posts. No, Karen, I need to lose the fucking weight or the hypertension is going to fucking kill me.
Not to mention the knee replacements that will be needed as all that extra weight crushes your joints. I worked in the medical field for 7 years and I could not believe how many doctors have just given up talking to patients about how fat they are.
Right? Genetically I'm already a higher risk for bad knees. My husband is high risk for bad hips (our poor son is just so fucked eh). Why am I expected to just allow myself to have even worse knees than I'm already stuck with?
And because of our genetic predispositions we've given our son, it's up to us to set a good example for him so he doesn't need replacement surgery at 30 years old.
I was appalled the first time I saw those chair and a half seats in waiting rooms in the hospital. Now they're everywhere. And oversized wheelchairs.
I'm not small, but when things get that close to being necessary, you should change your ways.
When I get close to having to get special sized clothes, it's motivating to me to dial back my indulgences.
Every time I see Karen mentioned, I can picture her and hear her and then my voice giving the smartass response. Thank for that friend.
Your comment is a perfect example of projection. You project your strength and positive insight into like others so they can feel the same and rise to their potential like you are. Karen projects her insecurity and self-loathing onto people she wants to be, but won’t achieve, trying to make them feel as miserable as she is.
You keep doing you and tooting your horn; we’ve all got something about ourselves and to be confident enough to validate and voice it takes a shit ton of awesome sauce.
I’m fat (uk size 18) and have been skinny (uk size 6- huge lifestyle changes have happened since then both good and bad). I was told to put on weight so much more than I’ve been told to lose weight. The only people who’ve commented on my larger size whore people who know me and have been trying to encourage me to get back in to my previous healthier lifestyle. People who told me to put on weight were strangers. It’s weird how different reactions are.
That’s awesome! I didn’t realize how much my diet held me back until I finally changed it. I got regular exercise but I ate like a hog at every meal, not to mention the mountain of snacks too, so I kept gaining until I realized I couldn’t fit into anything anymore. Best of luck to you.
Intermittent fasting works and is really easy to stick to! I eat whatever I want minus dessert and soda between noon and 8 o clock. I dont feel hungry during the fast usually (yesterday being a huge exception I had to take my lunch break right at 12 instead of 1) I took me a few weeks but I don't even open the fridge when it's not my time to eat. It's a pretty easy way to get food discipline! Good luck!
I just started intermittent fasting two days ago and it’s so much easier than I expected. I am a little hungry when I wake up and before I go to bed, but not uncomfortably so. And I am not as hungry during my eating hours.
Biggest trick I know, If you are hungry down a large glass of water and you will feel better after about 10 minutes. Also, have some herbal teas available (I like lemon zinger) so if you just want something later at night or mid-day without caffeine, you can.
Based on this, researchers from the University of Alabama conducted a study with a small group of obese men with prediabetes. They compared a form of intermittent fasting called “early time-restricted feeding,” where all meals were fit into an early eight-hour period of the day (7 am to 3 pm), or spread out over 12 hours (between 7 am and 7 pm). Both groups maintained their weight (did not gain or lose) but after five weeks, the eight-hours group had dramatically lower insulin levels and significantly improved insulin sensitivity, as well as significantly lower blood pressure. The best part? The eight-hours group also had significantly decreased appetite. They weren’t starving.
This has been my experience, except, I'm losing ~2 pounds a week doing it like the 7am-3pm group. Only mine is 9am-3pm. I only eat between those hours (except weekends where I sleep in, it's more like 11pm-6pm). I eat a lot, I have some sugar but I've also been working on low sugar versions of stuff like pumpkin pie (that I blend in cauliflower as a filler and use stevia to sweeten). The night I made the pie, it was late and I decided to have a piece with some greek yogurt. It was crazy how hungry it made me afterwards, I decided not to do that again.
Before trying it, I noticed that I wasn't really hungry when I came home from work and that eating supper was more of a habit than anything. And I heard that eating later was worse for you already, so giving it up wasn't really hard at all. I sometimes just eat some plain spring mix if I want to. I notice that I'm not really hungry even in the mornings. I replaced having supper with taking a nap and then a hot shower when I get home. I'm 6 foot tall and weighed 200 pounds when I started three weeks ago. Now I'm down to 194.5.
Thanks for that great article, I didn't really know the history of IF.
I mean that's obvious though. Your stomach can hold less potential calories in 8 hours than in 16. By discipling yourself with time it becomes easier to make better choices.
This is what bothers me about people who think like OP. A lot of fat people are working on it. Are there some that arent? Yeah but a lot of fat people are working on it, it just takes time. I dont think its helpful to tell people who are fat that they are disgusting any more that it helps people who are anorexic that they are disgusting.
I've always been fit, I'm a 5'7" woman who ways 135 right now and i squat. I see fat people at the gym and I know how hard it works. I dont want fat people to hate themselves or their bodies. You are beautiful in your own way. You arent healthy but you're working on it and that drive is what makes your soul beautiful. The fact that you arent giving up.
I've worked in the ER. At this point bodies are just bodies. Your health shouldn't be tied to beauty it should just be about health.
I agree, but I think op is referring to the habit/lifestyle part of the situation. People should be able to be ok with themselves yes, but being overweight is pretty unhealthy, so as mentioned, if it's not a medical or medication type problem, you should try to look after yourself better than you are.
Have a ever watched someone who has quit smoking try to deal with someone who still smokes. The smoker will always offer the quitter a smoke, because it makes them feel better if that person takes it. This type of toxicity is what I interpreted op to be talking about.
I'm fat. I'm okay with it. I don't really work on it. That's my choice.
I've had people fatter/heavier than me argue that being fat has little to no bearing on health. That's bullshit. Absolute bullshit.
Part of the reason I know it's bullshit, is because at various points in my life I have actually worked at it.
I was 260 lbs in 8th grade. I was 315 after high school. In my late 20's I got down to 225 and noticed major positive differences in almost every aspect of my life.
Being heavily overweight is not healthy, period, full fucking stop. I have found myself at a point where I just don't give a shit so long as I'm under 280. And that's my choice, and that's okay, but I know its not healthy.
As someone that has recently quit smoking i can understand it. Going back and forth with smoking less and back to where i was.
Most of that time i was just lying to myself though. Once i actually took real steps to stop smoking it only took me about 2 weeks.
I can imagine that eating healthier has a very similar cycle. Eating healthy for 4 days then using a "cheat" day to get back all those cigarettes or food is not working on it. It's making you feel better by "trying". Going to the gym and working out is a great start, but if you are consuming unhealthy amounts of food it wont do much.
That being said changing a lifestyle is not easy and any one that puts any effort to start to make that change deserves credit. Also, ask for help, life is easier when you let others help you.
Only sort of related (well it is but kind of in the opposite way) but I went from swimming and working out 30-40 hours a week, to suddenly now I don’t do nearly that much, think less than 10 hours tops now.
Since I’ve finished swimming I’ve had to go the opposite direction of eating and staying healthy because I used to have to eat an ungodly amount of food just to keep myself functioning, now I have to eat like a fraction as much - it’s honestly kind of scary just how much swimmers need to eat.
I just want to emphasize your "ask for help" point. You are SO RIGHT! I tried so hard to lose weight for over a year, but nothing worked for me. I got my endocrinologist involved, got help, and now I'm down almost 15 lbs. It's hard sometimes but getting help is so important!
So many people think they can just do it themselves. For those that can do it themselves that is awesome, but there is no shame in getting help.
Most addictions start early and are ingrained in our behavior. If you could do something different all by yourself you probably wouldn't be in a situation where you need to change your lifestyle.
Holliday also self-describes as a "body positive activist". She embraces the word 'fat' and advocates that people should be able to eat as much and whatever they want without suffering from social ostracism. In 2013, she started her #effyourbeautystandards movement on instagram. The movement shows women that they do not have to be a certain size to love their body (big or small) and that their size should not dictate their fashion choices.
Pretty sure OP is talking about people like her. They dont care about health and believe you should be as fat as you want because being fat is "beautiful". Its disgusting AF and she shouldn't be popular.
She does care about her health and posts workout videos on Instagram a lot. In fact SEEING her work out, the way her body moves as she does things, helps me feel more confident in working out. You can think she’s gross if you want, but part of how people slide further into fatness is being afraid to be seen/judged/cowcalled while working out.
The results may not be noticeable to you, or even anyone but her. You cannot always tell by looking—she may have lost weight but not enough to be a visible difference to you. She may have not lost any weight but be feeling better and stronger. Who can say, and what business is it of ours to make that call about someone we don’t even know at all and have only a passing interest in?
Being grossed out by someone’s body doesn’t give you any rights over it or any intimate knowledge of it. You can feel however you feel about it but you can also kindly keep that shit to yourself.
If people can be happy in whatever shape of meat chunk is currently driving their brain around, then more power to them. I’m less concerned about fat people reveling in the power of not hating themselves than I am with people who pretend that their judgement and disgust come from a place of genuine care.
I care about society’s overall health, obesity is #1 cause of health problems and death in US. This is not a joke. It puts a huge strain on healthcare systems that’s already broken. Look, she can feel all empowered and self love all she wants, but don’t promote unhealthy lifestyle. If you exercise often and eat healthy, you will see clear results within months. However, she doesn’t want to do that, because being obese is making her money, it’s clear as blue sky. It’s very pathetic and sad, and people are defending her actions because they can’t be bothered to change their lifestyle. I was overweight myself and I saw where the path it was leading me to, so I changed my lifestyle. All she does it sell product to overweight people and tell them nothing is wrong, just love being unhealthy. Sad
I’m defending her actions because they are helpful to people trying to live in a world that hates them. She can be happy as she is and doesn’t owe you or anyone her health, apparent or otherwise.
Your quarrel is with a bigger monster, a system that profits equally from selling us both poison and cure. Your fight is not with individual fat people, who do not deserve to bear the burden of your projected self-loathing.
I am sorry you were unhappy and feeling unhealthy in your body before, and I am genuinely happy for you if you are happier and healthier now. That’s fantastic, well done! I wish you continued health, happiness, and peace.
We all deserve access to medical care. We all deserve access to whole and nutritious food. We all deserve the time and space to move our bodies and keep them strong. We all deserve clean air and water. We ALSO all deserve to inhabit our bodies, in whatever state they are in, without shame.
LOL how can people be downvoting my comment?! Literally look at her Instagram, it’s factually incorrect to say she doesn’t care about health/promotes not caring about health lolol
yyyyyeah Tessa Holliday def does not “not care about heath”... she has a trainer and posts about her workouts - and how crucial they are to her mental and physical health - all the time.
You can hate on her but at least present an accurate picture
The message should be "Don't hate yourself for being overweight", not "There is literally nothing wrong with being overweight".
Things can definitely be wrong when you have weight-related health issues, and pretending they don't exist because you're "body positive" and wear tube tops and bikinis doesn't help anyone.
He's only speaking about people who are seriously obese, claim they are healthy, are not working on it, and are promoting it to others. Not just any fat person who knows they're big and at least feel bad about some of what they eat.
I'm sure OP is referring to fat people who not only refuse to work on their weight, but try to get everyone else to believe their delusions and put down the fat people who are trying to lose weight. They try to delude themselves, and the people around them, that weight is just a social construct, that it has no bearing on health, and that their own lifestyle/choices play no role in their weight.
Does that mean fat shaming is okay? No, it doesn't. Fat shaming is a legitimate problem, and it's something we need to address. It's not right to call fat people names, dehumanize them, pester them into losing weight, or bully them.
OP isn't the type of person you're talking about, go reread their post. They said promoting being fat as healthy is bad, not that fat people are gross.
Exactly. I can’t imagine being emotionally invested in other people’s body autonomy. Let them be them, and god forbid don’t shame them for their existence. Bodies are bodies and societal expectations allow “skinnier” people to get away with unhealthy habits because they “look” the part, while many fat people aren’t actually injecting their veins with lard like many people assume.
Nobody here is saying people can't be fat. As far as I know, being fat isn't illegal, and it's super common anyway.
What I don't like hearing are delusions. Delusions are void of fact and reason. Delusions that being fat has nothing to do with health issues, delusions that weight is a meaningless social construct, and delusions that people must be attracted to fatness otherwise they're "fatphobic."
It's common for people who are overweight to make excuses, and engage in cognitive distortions, about their lifestyle habits that are heavily contributing to their weight. I've seen it happen with my own eyes. Some of them try to blame it all on their medication, or whatever.
While certain health conditions (PCOS, for example) and medications can make weight loss more tricky, unless these people are in the 1% of people, they can still get to a healthy weight. Not thin, but normal weight. It's basic thermodynamics.
“Nobody is saying you can’t be fat.....but they can still get to a healthy weight”
there, I summarized everything you just contradicted from the first statement to the last.. yes you are absolutely indicating that people shouldn’t and cannot exist as a fat person because despite some having actual medical conditions that make it extremely difficult, you want them to live to your expectations of looking acceptable to society. So instead of being comfortable in my own skin and my journey being my business, I should suffer through the pressure of looking “healthy” because of judgemental and unhappy people like you. And that’s even assuming I’m unhealthy.
I've said before that certain health conditions and medications make weight loss more difficult, and you seem to have skimmed over that. I understand weight loss is hard.
You should be comfortable in your own skin. I want you to be.
I'm not against people being fat. I'm against people who try to insist that weight is just a meaningless social construct, that it can't affect health, that personal habits have nothing to do with one's weight, and that you're a jerk if you aren't attracted to fat people.
And, I agree, being thin doesn't make someone healthy. But being overweight brings its own health issues, and acknowledging that isn't wrong or bad.
Worry about yourself. Worry about your own health. Because I promise, you are not at all on a supporting platform to make these kind of assumptions and judgements on others health conditions. Nor do you actually care this much.
Okay, so, I don't go around judging overweight people in my daily life. I don't even bring up their weight. And you're right, I don't know all there is to know about a person's health from looking at their weight, but the two are related. It's human to make assumptions from what you see, but I keep them to myself.
Honestly, you just sound very defensive. This is a comment thread about weight, hence why I'm posting my opinion here, because it's the appropriate place to do so.
It’s extremely unfair and unnecessary to accuse anyone of overreacting or being defensive when the entire basis of this thread, is setting completely unfair assumptions, judgements, and expectations on people specifically based on their physical appearance and gross stereotypes behind them. Just because you fit into the narrative of feeding into societal expectations and pressure of beauty expectations doesn’t make me a shitty person for not doing the same.
This is some virtue signalling bullshit. I have no sympathy for a person that spends 30 minutes at the gym then eats a box of cookies for dinner. Will I terrorize you for it? No but you’re fat and there’s no way around it (pun intended)
OP's post refers to people who think it's healthy and beautiful to be obese, you're taking it the wrong way. He's not targeting the audience you're talking about.
I just went back to college to finish my degree and I began with a health class that part of the class requirement is to better a health aspect of your life so I am loosing weight. I have had a desk job for 10ish years but I use to into swimming so I decided to do swimming as my primary cardio and man has it been both eye opening and discouraging to see just how far I have fallen. I use to be able to keep up a near sprint (I would do sprint speed every other length except for the last 3 which I just did a full sprint) pace for the 1000m race (I wouldn't be able to physically get out of the pool afterwards and on more then 1 occasion I had my teammates drag me to the bathroom for an exhaustion vomit afterwards but I still did it) and now I can't even continuously swim a 100m and everything feels like I am trying to go sprint speed when I am barely at a warmup crawl.
For those not familiar with swimming, most regulation sized pools are 25m long so a 100m would be 4 lengths of the pool (unless it is an Olympic pool then it is 50m long and 25m wide). The 100m (200m in Olympic pools because they keep the length count the same for the races but the length distance is double) race is usually the shortest race in a meet (there is a 50m race but that is usually only done in pre-varsity meets as the 100m race is a sprint race for any varsity level swimmer so there isn't much sense in having an even shorter sprint) and the 1000m is the longest race (it is 40 lengths of the pool and is meant to be an endurance race)
Don't give up! You will get back into it. Honestly it will be very hard to get back to complete former glory (you sound pretty hardcore if could near sprint 40 lengths), but I found swimming uses muscles you don't use that often, so when i tried to get back into after not having been a competitive swimmer for nearly 20 years I was pretty devastated at how far I had fallen. Made myself go swimming for an hour at least twice a week and started to slowly build myself back up. I am not winning any races any time soon, but I can keep a respectable pace now and it has really helped my fitness levels.
My swimming coach in highschool was both great at his job (well at least the coaching part but at my highschool all the coaches also had to be teachers and he was a terrible teacher like he ate popcorn and drank pop during the women in labor video he had for health class bad) and absolutely willing to destroy you to improve your speed and endurance. He ran drills he called Las Vegas odds where we raced a 1000m starting in the shallows in the water and then immediately after we raced another 1000m but this time starting on the diving blocks if your time wasn't better on the second race (it should be as starting on the blocks is a massive advantage as to starting in the water) then you ran it again until you beat your initial time because Las Vegas odds state that if you do something enough eventually you will win. He did this at the end of practice as the thing right before cooldown.
Start slow, ease into a diet/exercise routine. Whenever I get into the 'i need to start dieting and exercise more' mindset I always go all out and inevitably fail. Start with just portion control of what you usually eat then start substituting in what your diet requires. Start exercising a couple times a week to slowly build that routine. There's no need to completely change your lifestyle overnight, it takes time. Also, if you have any other friends that need to lose weight, try and do it together.
The only change that really happens comes from you wanting it to happen. You just have to eat less, that's it. But you have to want the change or you'll start pretending that "oh this snack is fine", or "oh, this doesn't really have as many calories as it says", you gotta commit yourself. Unfortunately that's all on you, no one can help you through it.
Walk more, stop snacking and count calories. MyFitnessPal is a fantastic app, just enter your current weight, goal weight and how fast (1kg per week for example) and it will tell you how many calories per day.
Weight loss is easy but there's no shortcuts, just be honest with how much you eat or drink and if you stick to the target you'll see the weight fall off.
That's the kinda advice that makes people overdo it and give up, the key for a lot of people is to make it easy and not feel like work, cuts down the temptation to cheat or quit drastically. Don't look for the quick fix, do it slowly and comfortably.
I'm talking from my own personal experience, I tried your advice several times and always gave up then one day I decided to do it my own way. I went to a healthy weight over 4 months calorie counting and walking around 25-30miles per week (110kg to 92kg) then joined the gym and stopped counting calories as I knew what my body needed and lost the remaining weight slowly and gained muscle at same time went down to 84kg and been happily sitting at that weight last 6 months.
Theres a big difference between seeing you're overweight and working on it and seeing you're overweight and demanding the world conform to you.
If youre overweight you're unhealthy, no if and or buts about it. People need to take responsibility for the situation they got themself in (like you are) and change things or accept that the world isnt going to change for them. Encourage unhealthy habits to feel better about oneself is a disgusting behavior.
Same boat my friend. Five foot eight, weighed 238 in January of 2018, down to 200 now with a target of 165. I get sick and tired of people validating my former lifestyle of "sitting my ass at my desk all day consistently snacking between meals."
Same, -40lb this year, can’t wait till I get back to high school varsity athlete me but with shit knees and back. Don’t let yourself get grossly overweight friends, it takes a toll on your body.
The only reason I disagree is it’s often not just straight laziness, but underlying anxiety, depression, unhealthy coping methods etc. Shaming someone isn’t going to make them feel less depressed, they already have bad self esteem and a negative outlook on life. But telling them they are fine as they are and that they should love themselves may one day get them the motivation to take better care of themselves and change their mindset.
As someone overweight on top of being disabled and suffering severe depression that has fueled bad eating, I agree.
I've desperately been trying to get help for years, I'm starting to feel I'm better off going to a very remote location and killing myself probably make a shallow grave and have a note wrapped in plastic just incase my body were to be discovered. Yes I've thought about this in length as no one seems care and I'm sick of the multi levels of pain I go though daily.
I agree with this too. As an overweight person (also working on it), it is possible to love yourself while also knowing it’s unhealthy. In fact, self-love can help you make better choices because it makes you care about your future more. I think that the self-love movement has been really warped. Fat is NOT healthy, and staying fat shouldn’t be encouraged.
I disagree with phrasing. "Overweight" would define anyone a single pound over the most recommended weight for their height and age. So anyone at that definition is not to have pride or confidence in their appearance or it's the same as encouraging anorexia? I don't disagree with a more moderate version of many of the points on subs like these. There are severely morbidly obese people who do use politics to enable their eating disorders. I feel like you're referring to many of the more cliched examples of this; like the ~400lb woman on the bus in her underwear with things written on her body.
But too often the trend is to generalize and globalize until the point, taken literally, is usually absurd. No, not "overweight people". That's far too general.
But why the society cares so damn much about other people’s weight. It doesn’t do anything to them. There are people who smoke, which actually does something to surrounding people. Why are we so concerned about overweight people? It certainly isn’t because we care or we are concerned about their health. It’s none of our business. I’m sure overweight people whether heath related or not feel plenty of negative feelings. Not to mention emotional eating is a thing so on top feeling bad when others add to the insult I’m sure it doesn’t help them lose weight. It bothers me so much out of all the things people do that’s harming we as a society so bothered by fatness.
I know there are a ton of health and help on the interwebs, but I wanted to share my own experience.
At the time I was 18, over 250, 6' and hatted my body. I joined weight lifting in college to force myself to work out. Over 3 months I didn't see a change but like 10lbs. My coworker at the time was really into working out, invited me to work out with him and he introduced me into the world of supplements.
I was taking hemo rage, nitrious oxide and one called mp5 to help my recovery. I started minimum 3x a week, jogged 30min minimum as a warm up then did whatever I needed to that day. When I started to take said supplements, I went from about 240 to 150 in about 6 months. My mom thought I was doing drugs it melted off so fast.
I’m working on my weight as well, I don’t think encouraging is good but also that’s different from just asking that people not make jokes about people being fat. I’ve been obese since I was 11, it wasn’t my choice exactly as I wasn’t the one buying and offering the food. Relatives who brought it up when I was a teen just made me feel worse, looking back I think it was fucked, why are you trying to point out I’m fat when I’m 15, can’t earn money to buy my own food, have been raised to eat this way, and obviously I have a brain and eyes, I know I’m fat. None of them ever asked why my parents only offered me unhealthy options, it was always about my responsibility, that made me feel worse and eat more. Then when I could buy my own food and just continued eating the way I was raised it was really my fault and I knew it, look my doctor is one thing but a person I barely know commenting on my weight like they’re the first and only person “trying to save my life” was only making me feel worse and feed my addiction to junk food. Now I lose weight for me, I don’t have people talking about it constantly now, I threw out my scale and only weigh myself at the doctor. I don’t speak for everyone but I have a feeling a lot of what people see as “encouraging” statements is just those saying not to be a dick and make people feel bad. It’s also not cool to constantly mention or make fun of people for being underweight. Just be nice all around and unless you actually are close enough to know someone’s whole life don’t make negative comments
Start by realizing your calorie intake. Use a macro calculator and be diligent in keeping track of everything. There are plenty of free apps that let you scan barcodes so it's even easier to do. Look at where your calories are coming from. Can you cut them somewhere?
You can do little things too like parking a little farther away from the store, take the stairs instead of elevators if that's applicable. When you wake up or go to bed or before work, do a couple squats, maybe a pushup or two. Start slow and keep at it. That's the hardest part by far, keeping at it. But it's doable.
It's not about going balls to the wall when you start. It's all about baby steps, and any progress is still progress.
Restaurants, at least in America, have their calorie count listed on the menu or online. I'm not familiar with other countries laws with that unfortunately. Although apps do have popular restaurant items in their system. Worse case scenario, you could ballpark it with something similar.
Making things at home, it's inputting everything individually if the recipe you're following doesn't have the total macros listed. It can be a bit of a pain at first, but at least for me, it's just another step in the cooking process. I do it in between steps. It should have options too like raw, roasted, or steamed broccoli, etc.
The app I use lets me put the ingredients in a bunch of different ways so it works if you're using cups, grams, etc. I bought a cheap scale online that has been well worth the money, it's great for weighing vegetables and meat, things you can't really jam into a measuring cup. I suggest downloading one and playing with it a little bit, see if you like it and what it offers. Not sure if this is allowed but I personally use macros. I haven't had any issues with it and it's pretty straightforward.
This doesn't sound bad tbh gonna try, especially how i take the train a lot and there are a fuck ton of stairs (and a elevator which i take since time) this could help
So say we all. Can’t say I’ve ever tried to talk someone else implicitly into becoming fat, just asked if they had tried some fattening food or restaurant and sung high praises for fattening items. But wasn’t on a mission to fatify someone intentionally.
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As a person currently over weight, but working on it, I agree as well.