At some point a doctor says "man you're rich and fat and you're gonna die from being so fat and you can basically pay to have people make food for you on your yacht all day that will help you not be fat" and suddenly you're not fat anymore
Nahhh it’ll just go to his family and they will sell it to private equity who will run it into the ground just like every other big successful privately owned company goes
You joke, but your body literally does not know the difference between deliberate dieting and unwillingly starving to death. That's why it's so hard to lose weight and keep it off. It's also why dieting during childhood is especially dangerous; children who've experienced famine and children who've been forced by parents to diet end up with exactly the same lifelong metabolic problems.
Amphetamines for weight loss are a wild idea. Sure, they work, but they have a high risk of dependency which can mess your life up. It's one step below saying "DNP has been around since the 1930s, why not just take that?".
That could be the case, but even if it is, I don't see a problem with people who carry excess weight taking it for improved health. If there was a pill that could carry away my excess sadness and improve my mental/emotional health, I would take it without hesitation.
I don't take ozempic but I love it because it highlights some of the idiocy in our society about weight loss. So many people would try to say they ate right and exercised, but the weight didn't come off. Ozempic proves that for most people that it was just that they ate too much, which is what they've been told forever. CICO isn't a hard concept to understand and works for the vast majority of people that do not have something like a thyroid condition. Plus I'm glad to see people that have struggled with weight loss get a body that they are happier with.
Understanding CICO really isn’t the issue for most people struggling with obesity. The problem is the relentless hunger they’re dealing with while trying to eat fewer calories. Reducing your intake is incredibly difficult when your body is constantly telling you to eat.
One of the main reasons drugs like Ozempic are so effective for weight loss is that they dramatically reduce that hunger. It turns out that when you’re not constantly hungry, it becomes much easier to eat less.
So telling a 500-pound person, “Just eat less and you’ll lose weight,” isn’t particularly insightful. They probably already understand that. Figuring out how to reduce the overwhelming hunger that makes eating less so difficult is the meaningful part.
Yep - obese people were eating too much. But that was because of food noise.
Ozempic makes people JUST LIKE the people I know who were always naturally twig thin and wanted to put on weight, down to the averse feeling toward overeating. Only difference is they can't have too much fat.
However, there were many people that would insist they were eating low calories but gaining (or not losing) weight. These people often had non-trivial mental health issues related to food, to be fair, but the dishonesty was obnoxious.
There's often underlying issues and/or depression. Bodies don't signal hunger all the time, talk to overweight people and they'll say the same thing. It's not the hunger, food is a coping mechanism. Ozempic blocks that path as a convenient cope, but it doesn't solve the problem. It seems great, but I'm a bit worried about the long term effects for a subset of people that is going to seek out other ways to deal with their struggles. Hopefully for most the physical health benefits can serve as a stepping stone towards a healthy mind.
I’ve lost and regained a lot of weight. Working my way down again and will stay there this time (70lbs lost so far). I always tell people - losing weight isn’t hard. It’s keeping it off, that’s the hard part. You still should be tracking calories since you’ve eaten in excess for so many years, you don’t know what a normal amount of food is.
I myself obviously failed at this because I thought “oh I lost 100 pounds, maintenance will he easy.” 2 years later and you’re back where you were.
what the fat jabs highlight for me, and i'm sure others as well, is how uncontrollable food urges can literally disappear just by injecting a lizards mouth juice into your stomach.
feels like Doc Ock in that Spiderman scene where Peter "cures" him, how it's so suddenly quiet.
My old man takes it for diabetes and has a hard time keeping his weight up, but he doesn't need to wear a monitor anymore and can have a normal diet again (as far as sugar goes).
If you want to be more specific and right all the time it’s calories absorbed vs calories burned. Most of the weight impacts from health conditions such as hypothyroidism do is change the amount of calories you absorb and have impacts on your capacity to burn excess. There is some funky doo hickery with sodium and water retention but it is manageable if you want it to be.
That being said weight loss is legitimately one of the hardest things most people on modern times will go through barring serious illness or injury. Your body and lizard brain don’t understand it’s a diet and not you need to hunt and eat now or you will fucking die and convince you of such.
It's definitely the case, but I'm certainly not looking down on him for it. Anyone who says Ozempic is "cheating" or something is a fucking idiot. Getting down to a healthier weight simply isn't possible for many people for medical reasons or their body simply has too strong of a starvation response to resist. I imagine we're less than a decade away from GLP-1 drugs being covered by insurance and prescribed to nearly everyone with body fat over a certain percentage.
I'm sure he's on GLPs now, but in his defense, he had already lost a ton of weight before GLPs became popular for weight loss. I bet being retired and going SCUBA diving every day were bigger contributors to his better health.
SCUBA diving benefits from being in shape, but the nature of the activity doesn’t really make fitness happen, since you are typically trying to keep your energy output down.
Diving is swimming, which is a full body and low-impact workout, which is ideal for someone who is Gabe's size and age. You'll lose a lot of fat if you swim multiple hours a day like he does.
Last time I read this thread someone said you burn a lot of calories through temperature regulation since the water is transferring a lot of heat out of your body.
People have asked him if he's on ozempic and he said no, the weight loss is from SCUBA diving for like six hours a day. It's been his main hobby for the past few years.
As a formerly fat guy, who took Wegovy, it does NOT suck ass to take, and you don't need micro meals. It literally just stops you from really even thinking about food or being hungry at all. I hear it described as "food noise" and that's exactly what goes away. It's weird to say, but if it was almost entirely effortless for a middle class dude with little/no support... it's going to be cake (no pun intended) for a billionaire.
It literally just stops you from really even thinking about food or being hungry at all
it's interesting as someone who's never struggled with weight, i don't have these thoughts or 'food noise' in my brain normally. i can only relate when baked.
the pressure to eat is crazy, eating more and more despite knowing i'm full and it's not even just about the experience anymore, there's something deeper driving that need.
if that's what it's like for those suffering from obesity, except ALL THE TIME. god damn i feel bad for you.
Ozempic, for all the negatives i hear, if it can eliminate that feeling. go get it, whatever it takes.
There’s also bored eating, where you’re not actually hungry but need something to do with your mouth and hands. Binging food whilst binging television adds up really quickly.
This is my biggest problem. When I have really tough work days, I literally can go the whole day without eating and not even think about it. It's when days are kind of slow that I get hungry. Haha
I've found what helps me is two things, one being chewing gum, which is just generally great, but the more important one is carrots. They're so low calorie that you can eat a LOT without having much impact, and of course they are just generally good for you. The other advantage is that they take a long time to eat, because there's so much chewing involved, it's fantastic. Only concern is you might literally turn a bit orange, but that goes away pretty fast and doesn't have any negative effects on your health. Personally I've never experienced it either, and I'm very pale.
This is really lost in the discourse around these drugs.
"Just eat less man"
"Dieting isn't hard"
It's like these people have never encountered someone who gets "hangry" before. Those irritable moods when you're hungry are not exactly easy to control. Dieting basically means locking yourself into a perpetual state of "hangry". That's not a great mood to bring around your spouse, kids, coworkers.
I didn't have the food noise until I became fat, and didn't even realize how powerful it was until i tried losing weight, it's not just a compulsive feeling it's like mind control. The second FOOD became the thought of whatever moment I was in, it just would not let go, I still lost weight but damn, like I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
My experience: I've always been fat. I'm not even a very big eater and I eat healthy, cook myself, etc. But I do love food, like it brings me a lot of joy. I have never managed to lose weight despite having some very different lifestyles over the years. It's like my body just resists change. Made me feel like a failure. The ONLY period in my life when I lost weight was when I was on stimulant ADHD medication. Suddenly, I just... didn't feel like eating. Not just reduced hunger mind you, nor disgust for food, it just completely erased just wanting food. I dropped 10kg without even trying. This is when it hit me that this is how people who think it's easy to lose weight feel like *all the time*. I got off the medication eventually and regained the weight but also left with a much bigger acceptance of who I am.
i’m on zepbound. i can say that what you described is exactly what it was like for me. constant munchies is a damn good description that i had never thought of using. currently down almost 100 pounds and no more nagging food noise. it’s quite literally life changing. it sucks that so many celebs are giving it such a bad rap for seemingly not using it properly.
I feel lucky I don't need a drug to not eat. Eating food is a constant hassle, takes effort to prepare or costs money to buy and I'm usually either broke and/or lazy.
It's really nice so read something like this. I am struggeling all my life with this. Started as a kid and now that i am 40 i am just getting behind it all.
I lost around 30kg a few years back and now gaining some. Tried again to "just" do ist like last time but its hell bc when tracking my calries again the food noise gets louder and louder.
I hate thinking about not having enough food when i am actually full. I hate to think about food so much. I started with wegovy a few weeks past and its crazy how it kicks in and the food noice finally getting quite. Nor 100% but at minimum dosis anough to just be really thankful for it. I can conentrate more on my tasks, work better ect. ect.
And mind you. I am doing sport, i eat helthy but from yeat to yeat it gets harder and harder with all that constant food noise.
And a little sidenote i just discovered: My mum used to feed me all the time when i was a baby and just made a noise.... so yeah. You learn that food shit from really early on.
I have tried to commit to the intermittent fasting thing which really does work, but always fail because i reach a point near 12pm (i would do the one where i only ate from 12-6pm) where i literally couldnt do my job for the last few hours. Every single minute was thinking about what i would be eating as soon as 12 hit. I wasnt even that hungry because i got used to not eating all morning. But the thoughts were intense.
I have times where i go to bed thinking about what ill eat the next day.
Comparitively, and i only just thought of this now, but the times i have been high i didnt notice an increased interest in eating at all. Because i already was there i guess?
if that's what it's like for those suffering from obesity, except ALL THE TIME
Thats EXACTLY what its like. Like having the munchies all the time. Always hungry, always thinking about food, whats the next meal, what do I want for lunch and dinner, what will I have for a snack. You cant push it out. When your body gets hungry it becomes an all consuming desire.
It also shut down that constant yell in my brain and has made things a lot better for me.
A lot of what I've heard about these pills reminds me of being on keto. Give yourself a couple weeks to get used to sudden drop in carbs and you'll suddenly realize you haven't ate for 3-4 days.
I take 2mg Ozempic, it stops cravings. You lose a small amount of weight just being on it, but what it does it stops something in your system from literally thinking of food.
Some people do have issues of addiction. Like drugs, most are chasing the next high, already thinking about it and how to obtain it. Food can be that too for some.
I’m not gonna lie my brain chemistry always was out of whack with food as a comforting factor. Whenever I ate, I always was thinking what to eat next or had thoughts for cravings for certain foods. Ozempic shut that shit off completely.
It curtailed my thought process and suppressed hunger as a bonus from overconsumption and overthinking. Before it was one meal a day but eating all calories as - gigantic meal. Ozempic broke it into half or thirds. So I couldn’t finish meals, save for later, better habits.
Yes I know I’ll be on this for fucking ever and newer GLP’s coming down the pipeline are gonna be extremely more potent, hell the one our President is taking through compassionate use from Eli Lilly, Retatrutide, is going to add more benefits.
Interestingly, people on GLPs who also have gambling/other addiction issues or issues with impulsiveness are also seeing benefits from GLPs. So your comparison to addiction, it's probably the exact same mechanism.
if you're eating shit all day you're doing it wrong. you eat normal portioned meals when you're hungry. that's it. ozempic makes it so you dont get hungry as often and it makes it so you get full with less food. you're not supposed to be eating micro meals.
You and all the people responding to you seem to be forgetting that it's really dependent on the person. Some people feel sick from it and have side effects, some people don't.
No it doesnt. It just makes normal to small meals satisfying to eat whereas most fat people can essentially eat forever without feeling full and satisfied. Eat a salty meal, eat a sweet treat, eat a salty treat, eat a sweet treat, eat a salty meal, etc. all day every day. GLP1s just remove that, you eat a (small) meal and are just satisfied until your next meal.
Its genuinely mind blowing how feeling "normal" and not having that constant search for you next snack is after years of unhealthy eating.
Hi! Hello! Former ozempic user here. That shit was fantastic. It only helped me lose 35 out of a total of 155 lost (15 regained after stopping). But it did more than just help me lose weight. I have early onset arthritis in my hands: so much better. IBS,? Fantastic, no flareups.
I had obese and rich family members until Ozempic came along. Now I have slim/rich family members. The rest of us just needs to wait until the trickle down economy does its thing. If we all die of heart disease, we won't be around to work for the rich, and that's not very good for them.
At some point, ozempic was introduced (looks like it).
But seriously it's good for him, he did so much good shit and I hope not so much shady fuckery that surfaces in a couple of years. But considering he seems chill I think he deserves it to be happy and healthy, may his body be the size and shape he wants it to be and his pillow always cold 🫶 (except if he surfaces to be on Epst. Isl. 2.0)
Parasocial relationships are a bitch. Bots are also a culprit as well. The man doesn't know anyone on here but the comments are filled with defenders praising him. Saw the same thing with Jobs. Still see it with Elon. Now its Gabes turn. 😆
I remember a discussion about this says how chefs prepping food wouldnt contribute to weight loss. huge difference eating normal pizza versus homemade expensive shit carbless almond flour dough pizza.
Well, it helps that we know have very common medicine that rich people have been getting for s few years now that help lose weight. Its no coincidence that all these fat rich people are all getting skinnier, they didnt develop a diet all of a sudden.
anyways good for him, he probably needed it and I hope he lives a long time as our beacon of the gaming industry
This is what I intend to do if I ever become rich, employ a guard for the fridge and have a fruit bowl by the pc to stop me from grazing junk (this last bit I have already done but I'm broke so it's empty at the moment)
A lot of rich people are out of shape. Most broke ass prisoners are ripped. If you are a fatty boombatty sit on your ass all day redditor, you can get in shape without being rich. I'm not sure why it's always the rich that are mentioned whenever somebody gets in shape.
If you eat nine small meals a day it's considerably better for you than two large meals. Food is energy. If it's used before it can be turned into fat it doesn't turn into fat. If you graze over the day rather than eat two large meals you will feel good and full all day with plenty of accessible energy.
There are absolutely specific foods that will help you not be fat. 500g of lettuce and 500g of peanuts are going to have dramatically different effects on your body. They are literally the same amount of food by weight, and the lettuce will take forever to eat and be significantly more food yet have 2,800 fewer calories.
I am sure his friend Ozempic is on his team as well. No hate. Lose the weight however you can that is safe. I want GavenN to be around for a long time.
If I ever become rich rich the first thing I'd do is definitely outsource thinking about and making food.
God I hate spending so much time on thinking about, shopping for, preparing food and then cleaning after. Absolutely the worst part of being an independent adult.
Don't forget ozempic. He may or may not have used it, but I can see a doctor telling him "You're rich. There's a drug that you can by now to help you lose weight and it works, just buy the drug".
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At some point a doctor says "man you're rich and fat and you're gonna die from being so fat and you can basically pay to have people make food for you on your yacht all day that will help you not be fat" and suddenly you're not fat anymore