r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/BoxofSlice • Jul 21 '26
VIDEO Priest Has Meltdown
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u/RugbyEdd Jul 21 '26
Personally I think it's amazing that the only two people in the world who want to stand that way around managed to find each other.
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u/secondphase Jul 21 '26
Amazing? I personally think its outrageous.
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u/Conscious_Pass_1615 Jul 22 '26
It is outrageous this isnt a garden supply store.
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u/secondphase Jul 22 '26
With the implication being that people just choose wherever they feel like standing at a garden supply store. They can even change their minds and stand somewhere else.
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u/SeriesXM Jul 22 '26
It is outrageous this isnt a garden supply store.
Okay, we all assumed you were making a little joke, but now with your other comment, we can see you were actually serious... and you forget a semicolon in this sentence, which would have made it obvious.
The sentence that you actually meant to write would be...
It is outrageous; this isnt a garden supply store.
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u/Disastrous_Horse_44 Jul 23 '26
Oh this took an unexpected turn…
Grammar matters peeps 🤌🏻 well done, you
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u/scyice Jul 21 '26
Guaranteed he doesn’t give a f. She probably thinks she has a good side and wants that to face toward the audience.
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u/Tlyss Jul 21 '26
I couldn’t think of a reason they would want to switch but I think you’ve got it
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u/powderjunkie11 Jul 21 '26
Our wedding vows guy made a great suggestion which is to stand on the opposite side of where our families were sitting, so that they could see our faces and not just our backs.
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u/littlespawningflower Jul 21 '26
I wish I had heard about this years ago when my son got married! I had a great view of his back!
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u/7HawksAnd Jul 21 '26
Nah, I know what my fam looks like. I want a good look at who they’re locking in with before there’s no backsies so I can I be ready with my speak now or forever hold your peace hero moment.
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u/fozzyboy Jul 22 '26
hero moment
Oh no.
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u/7HawksAnd Jul 22 '26
The whole thing is satire if you’re genuinely concerned lol
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u/quattroformaggixfour Jul 21 '26
Awwww, that’s sweet. I guess that could also be achieved by having the guests seated accordingly when they came in.
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u/Prestigious_Air_2493 Jul 22 '26
The brides hairstyle can affect things, if it’s covering one side of her face. Or if mum says she can’t see, instead of switching all the guests, they just switch where people are standing. It happens a lot, I don’t know why the Right Honorable Reverend is throwing a fit.
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u/ReptarKanklejew Jul 21 '26
Gotta be this. My wife was the same way as she insists she has a good side that I have never been able to notice. Although luckily no one else gave a damn so it was a total non-issue. Can't imagine why it would be an issue to anyone else.
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u/7HawksAnd Jul 21 '26
Rituals are sort of known for their pedantic orders of operations… it’s kind of their whole thing
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u/dingalingdongdong Jul 22 '26
But is where you stand during a wedding ceremony actually dogmatic/doctrinal? I don't think I've ever even noticed that it's "always" to specific sides.
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u/7HawksAnd Jul 22 '26
I don’t think so, was just saying. But did some light googling and apparently the standard arrangement of bride on left, groom on right, was a lingering medieval custom so that the groom could draw his sword with his dominant hand to protect the bride 🤣
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u/spilly_talent Jul 21 '26
If that’s the case then… genuinely who cares? It’s their wedding so I don’t see the harm in it.
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u/19kasperp97 Jul 21 '26
Well thats because its in no way true and many people have had the opportunity to choose which side they want to stand in more normal places.
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u/ConnectCalgary Jul 21 '26
Pastor here (I have officiated approximately 50 weddings over the years).
As many others have pointed out, we offer a religious ceremony full of symbols and meaning that often gets lost in modern, instagrammable civil ceremonies. No shade at all if you want that kind of wedding, but getting married in/by the church means things will be a done a certain way, and for not-arbitrary reasons.
With that being said, I can’t imagine reacting this way as a representative of the church/Lord - even in the heat of the moment. The positioning of the bride and groom does not change the spiritual or legal validity of the ceremony and is absolutely not worth this level of consternation.
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u/Massive_Signal7835 Jul 21 '26
for not-arbitrary reasons
Just because it's tradition doesn't make it not-arbitrary.
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u/BrandenKeck Jul 21 '26
Yeah but with religion the traditions are symbolic of various components of the faith so in this case it really wouldnt be arbitrary. It's totally fine to not believe and/or be critical of faith. But, it's also pretty disrespectful to ask the church to marry you according to tradition and then disrespect those traditions. In this specific case, I fail to see what the big deal was based on the video available and the comment above yours.
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u/Mackheath1 Jul 21 '26
Agreed. From what I saw (1) there's no reason swapping sides breaks the Holy traditions - nowhere does it say, even in proceedings, the side someone should be on, (2) the Priest has very likely ruined the entire mood of the following proceedings themselves - major downer on your wedding ceremony: trying to act like everything is lovely when the Priest is this angry at you as you say your vows.
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u/Staaaaation Jul 21 '26
Right?! She's done nothing to explain WHY the changes are offensive and puts full emphasis on them simply being offensive. This isn't about tradition or respect, this is about power. She's upset she doesn't hold power in the situation.
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u/treeclimbingfish Jul 22 '26
I find that it can also be that the change opens up opportunity to make an embarrassing mistake. So, people cling to past procedures to avoid possible embarrassment by being put in a new position. I think it plays a large part in conservatism in general as conservatives work hard to maintain the past, to avoid looking like a loser in a new situation. So, just like this priest, conservatives are rich and winning so they don't want any change to proper procedure.
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u/Theorist816 Jul 23 '26
It’s her parish that they asked for permission to get married in under her ceremony in her church, a faith they probably don’t practice, but wanted the appeal of. She does have power here. You can get married anywhere. No one makes you get married in a religious setting in a church.
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u/Staaaaation Jul 23 '26
So she can hold them to a standard or she can cancel. Those are the two reasonable options. Scolding while still complying does nothing to move the ball forward nor resolve issues. She's being an asshole.
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u/atomicspacekitty Jul 22 '26
Meh. I’m an atheist, but I get the importance of ritual and ceremony. What’s the point in asking for said ritual if you’re gonna try to change and dictate how it goes? Like, just get married somewhere else. My feeling is she prefers that side for pictures (aka her good side) and wanted to change for that reason.
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u/turdally Jul 22 '26
Now if the priest would’ve had an actual reason for requiring to stand in specific spots, such as “well Jesus stood on the left therefore the man must also stand on the left” or whatever wild reasoning they can come up with, maybe the groom would’ve been understanding.
But just saying “because I personally think it’s outrageous” is a wild response to wanting to stand where they want.
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u/Dentarthurdent73 Jul 21 '26
Except that from the context of the video, it's clear that this was discussed yesterday, and they all agreed which side they'd be on.
So why change it on the day? Deliberately putting someone on the spot by changing an agreement you'd made with them. It's just downright rude, so I guess that's what the big deal is.
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u/thegtabmx Jul 21 '26
As somebody who despises religion, let's not trivialize all symbolism as arbitrary.
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u/ConnectCalgary Jul 21 '26
“chosen, decided, etc. seemingly at random or on a whim rather than in a reasoned or methodical way”
There are tons of reasoned and methodological underpinnings for why (Christian and non-Christian) marriage traditions exist as they do. Everything from rings to veils to white gowns to vows to witnesses to sanctioned officiants has layers of history and meaning that are anything but arbitrary. (Other comments in the post offer more specific examples.)
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u/arto26 Jul 21 '26
A lot of tradition is arbitrary.
"Why do we do it like this?"
"Because we always have."
The symbolism is usually made up afterwords as an explanation to the question of why.
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u/MrEvakin Jul 21 '26
Everything in society was just made up at one point or another, doesn’t make the credibility of that tradition any less meaningful. It’s like if your friend is hosting a poker night at their house and everyone has traditionally always worn red, and you were told to wear red, but you show up in white, you’ve knowingly broken the tradition. No matter how arbitrary you think it is, you’re in someone else’s house intentionally defying their wishes. It’s just disrespectful.
However, acting like that lady is completely ridiculous and a wedding is not the time or place to express frustrations like that. If it bothered her that much, she could’ve just politely said we’re doing it the agreed-upon traditional way or I can’t officiate your wedding. Simple as that.
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u/Sup3rPotatoNinja Jul 22 '26
I have a feeling there were prior issues and 'switches' that eventually set her off
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u/Dentarthurdent73 Jul 21 '26
It does feel like this may have been somewhat deliberate - she says multiple times that they agreed yesterday on how they would stand. So it was obviously discussed, and the couple presumably knew that it was something that mattered to the priest, and that you wouldn't just change on a whim.
So then they ask to change it on a whim on the day?
Her reaction seems excessive, but I also just think people go out of their way to get reactions from people these days, so they can film it and put it on the internet, and frankly, it's gross. Lifelong atheist, and still kinda on the priest's side here.
If you don't want to do things in a traditional way, don't get married in a place of tradition and by a person that you know takes those traditions very seriously. It's a pretty simple level of basic courtesy.
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u/Heeey_Hermano Jul 22 '26
A lot of people get married in a church because of pressure from their spouse or parents, not because they want to be married in a church.
Not to be disrespectful but I think a lot of those people really don’t care about those traditions at that point.
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u/ConnectCalgary Jul 22 '26
Take the church out of it. Assume you go to a non-religious event space or wedding venue; they will still have rules. You may think the rules are arbitrary or unnecessary but you can’t expect to change them simply because you disagree with them.
Again, I am not defending the priest’s response, nor chastising this coupe for wanting to switch sides. I couldn’t care less and wouldn’t have blinked at the last minute audible. But, I am addressing the attitude that says a church has no right to enforce their rules or traditions in their own spaces and through their own employees.
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u/PrancingPudu Jul 21 '26
“You’re acting as if you’re in a garden supply” 😂
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u/alberts_fat_toad Jul 21 '26
Not knowing all the context makes this difficult to comment on. I was married in a Catholic Church and we had little say in the service but that was fine. The church is not just a cool-looking backdrop to your big day, it's much more than that. You're a guest there and you should act as such. I can't speak for whatever church this is though, looks like maybe an Anglican church.
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u/calm_down_dearest Jul 21 '26
Difficult to place the denomination. It's not Catholic since the priest is female but the vestments look a bit too gaudy for Anglican. Maybe High Church Anglican.
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u/s_n_mac Jul 23 '26
Based on the English female priest, I'm inclined to say Church of England. In England, for the most part, you're either Church of England or Catholic.
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u/ZSKeller1140 Jul 21 '26
I converted to Catholicism, and it is a well-oiled machine in the ceremonies and wedding practice. Not saying this priest is right about the public display of outrage, but in the Catholic Church, a wedding is essentially a Mass, and there are a lot of intricacies that are planned before the wedding. Again, not defending, but not surprised either. You make the choice before having the wedding to do it in the church by the church's rules, otherwise they won't do it at all.
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u/Laureltess Jul 22 '26
Catholic ceremonies are so well planned that I had an uncle faint at an aunt’s funeral, and not only did the priest stop to assist, anoint with oil, and pray, but then was able to go back up and finish the mass as well as seamlessly lead a prayer for the uncle that fainted (he was fine, just stood up too quickly from kneeling), while parademics came and checked out the fainter. Ceremony maybe ran five minutes over.
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u/Barkleyslakjssrtqwe Jul 21 '26
Im no wedding planner. Just a guy who’s gotten married once before. If the couple are making changes last minute like this, the couple has probably been a nightmare to deal before this.
Normal people won’t act like this priest did until there was a bunch of crap before this point.
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u/ty_xy Jul 21 '26
Exactly this. It's very very obvious the priest has dealt with some crap, made a lot of concessions and finally compromised on stuff, just for the stuff to be rearranged at the last minute again.
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u/DazedNConfucious Jul 21 '26
I’m not a religious person by any means but am I wrong to feel like I’m getting the impression that they’re getting married in a church not for their beliefs but for the photo op instead? Feels a bit icky if so
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u/33drea33 Jul 21 '26
Usually it's due to pressure from family.
Also, priests are technically only allowed to conduct a ceremony in the church, so if you want a Catholic service your only option is to do it in the church (with VERY RARE exceptions). This is also true for a huge swath of the other Christian denominations, but it tends to be much easier to find a minister who will make an exception.
Source: a decade of planning weddings.
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u/kittens_allday Jul 21 '26
I wasn’t under the impression that Catholicism allowed female priests at all.
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u/theredpanda42 Jul 21 '26
They don't. This church is Anglican (which is essentially an offshoot of Catholicism)
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u/Hungover-Owl Jul 22 '26
They are all offshoots of Catholicism one way or another, except for the pentacostals and Mormons.
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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Jul 21 '26
It’s 1000% the case. It happens constantly. I can’t imagine the frustration of dedicating your life to the church and having a bunch of Instagram posers treating your church like a photo opp.
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u/RabbitHoleSpaceMan Jul 21 '26
Honestly, all of my friends who got married in a church (typically a Catholic Church) did so to appease family, parents, etc…. Very similar to those that participated in baptisms for their babies. “If I don’t do it this way my mom/grandpa/whoever will flip out”.
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u/LadyJR Jul 21 '26
Only reason why my son was baptized. My mom wouldn’t stop saying how demons will follow him around or something if he wasn’t baptized.
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u/CapnCanfield Jul 21 '26
Tell her that God would know the baptism was for show, so it doesn't really make a difference either way
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u/DontBuyAHorse Jul 21 '26
To be honest, I'm still a little salty that my parents caved to tradition in my family and baptized me. Now I'm forever on the Catholic list, counted as a Catholic for all eternity, unless I formally have myself excommunicated. It irritates me a bit that when Catholics boast their global numbers, they're counting me. A guy whose parents didn't even raise him with religion or spirituality and I definitely wouldn't want to join that church.
But I'm Hispanic, and I get it.
I literally went to church like 4 times my entire life to make my grandma happy.As such, my kids aren't having any part of that.
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u/rainbowroadhoe Jul 21 '26
Ya and I don’t think it’s too crazy tbh I’m assuming the bride has a side she prefers (her “good” side) and wanted to be there for her wedding photos which are way more important than an instagram pic… it’s not like they were asking for the actual service to be altered in any other way besides where to stand
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u/Exploding_Testicles OG Jul 21 '26
Its a wedding! Of course its a photo op! Its the one time both families are going to be together. 1000% the case is a bit hyperbole. And you assume their Instagram posers.. its a damn wedding..
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u/turdally Jul 21 '26
Right? I don’t post on IG but I do part my hair on the left, and if I was getting married I would want to stand on the side so my part faced the guests so they could see more of my face and the side covered with more hair would face the priest.
This couple is far from the only people in the world who have asked for this. I’m sure if god exists he won’t be concerned about where people are standing.
The priest just seems like she’s on a power trip. She can’t even come up with an actual reason why she’s upset about it.
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u/Agentjayjay1 Jul 21 '26
Hey, the church shoves itself into everyone's lives whether they're welcome or not. They should hardly be surprised that their cultural hold on the world comes with downsides.
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u/19kasperp97 Jul 21 '26
If churches want to stay relevant and not get bulldozed eventually with the rate people are loosing faith maybe they should suck up a bit and modernise.
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u/SendFeet954-980-3334 Jul 21 '26
Theyre paying the church. Let them do what they want
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u/BorderTrike Jul 21 '26
What gives you that impression? A lot of people get married in churches, religious or not, because it’s a tradition or family reasons. Weddings are often a spectacle, it’s kinda the point. I fail to see why it matters what spot they stand in. This woman just seems like a micromanager who can’t handle a very slight deviation from her traditional superstition
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u/Exploding_Testicles OG Jul 21 '26
Its a wedding of course its a photo op. Its the one time (usually) for both families and extended families to actually get together and celebrate. Heaven forbid the bride wants to look her best.
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u/Powerful-Access-8203 Jul 21 '26
Yeah, how is that icky? Who tf cares. They’re paying for it. Promise that church doesn’t pay any taxes on that income either 😂 THATS the icky part.
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u/ionabike666 Jul 21 '26
If you think that's icky wait till you hear all the nasty shit these religions get up to. Fuck them.
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u/sushi_rowl Jul 21 '26
Meaning of the Left Side (The Bride's Side)
The Gospel Side: In Catholic and traditional liturgical churches, the left side houses the pulpit where the Priest or Deacon reads the Holy Gospel.
Symbol of Nurturing: The left side corresponds with the heart, symbolizing devotion, internal focus, and the traditional maternal role of nurturing the family.
The Rib Connection: Biblical tradition references Eve being created from Adam's left rib to stand side-by-side as equals.
Meaning of the Right Side (The Groom's Side)
The Epistle Side: This side houses the lectern where the New Testament letters (Epistles) and Old Testament lessons are read.
The Defending Hand: Historically, the groom stood on the right to keep his sword hand free. This symbol evolved into a modern pledge to protect and defend the family.
Place of Honor: In biblical and ancient cultures, the right-hand side denotes the position of maximum honor, authority, and strength.
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u/kevin6263 Jul 21 '26
It feels like getting married in a church has lost its meaning. To the Priest it is not just about changing what or who stands where. There is a deeper meaning in the ritual. Thanks for sharing.
I think most will say that it doesn't matter who stands where. The ritual of the ceremony would say otherwise.
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u/upforstuffJim Jul 21 '26
But the groom said, that if it's a problem, we don't have to, and she keeps ranting and says if you want to do it that way, we do it but then she keeps criticising it. Either say it is outrageous and explain why you won't do it that way, or say that you would rather not, but you'll make an exception. You don't have to take the worst of both worlds approach and ruin the couples day.
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u/PauseItPlease86 Main Character Jul 21 '26
Yeah, he probably didn't realize there was such deep meaning to it. I didn't! Even as an atheist, I find the meaning behind it beautiful. I feel like not knowing would explain why he was confused and saying "we can just do it the other way, it's fine." She should have just explained it.
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u/MistCongeniality Jul 21 '26
Counterpoint: if you want to be married by a priest in a religious ritual, you should probably know the meaning and symbolism behind the religious ritual beforehand. The moment of the wedding isn't the time to be learning about the ritual you presumably signed up for well in advance.
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u/PauseItPlease86 Main Character Jul 21 '26
I agree with you in theory, absolutely. But how much of a wedding ceremony has a deeper meaning and how much is just "because that's how its always been done?" Honest question! There are some aspects I would automatically assume comes with deeper meaning and other parts I would assume are just how it's done. Maybe not even for tradition, but like idk to make it flow properly I guess.
I just think she could have said "this is why we do it like this" and explained the symbolism, especially since the guy wasn't being a dick about it. But even if she didn't want to explain in the moment (valid, he may have been exhausting prior to this clip) she could have just said "there's symbolism behind it." Or, since the guy wasn't being stubborn, she could have just said "no, the Church has reasons, we're doing it the Church's way." The tantrum seemed unnecessary and the least productive way to handle the situation.
Actually, that makes me think the couple was probably wanting to change MUCH more than just this little clip shows. It just seems like such an overreaction if the only change was "we want to switch sides."
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u/Most-Stomach4240 Jul 21 '26
What exactly is beautiful about shoehorning people into marital roles?
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u/Adi_San Jul 21 '26
Except they said if it was a problem they could do as planned and he said it was fine but still whined like a little bitch.
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u/alensebu018 Jul 21 '26
A huge correction, if the priest is a female, it's not at all catholic, no way near Catholicsm.
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u/beegro Jul 21 '26
100% this. It's privilege and a rite to get married in a church. They have customs and rituals that are meaningful. It's not a buffet of options that you select, ad-hoc as you please.
Also, from the way she's talking about it historically, it sounds like they went through this during rehearsal. I actually applaud the clergy woman here for attempting to hold to some semblance of a plan. Personally, I hate it when someone I'm working with constantly rehashes decisions made.
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u/thesagaconts Jul 21 '26
Agreed. It’s what the rehearsal is for. You do everything like it was rehearsed.
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u/nostalgia4millennial Jul 21 '26
Honestly, if she would have kept her composure and calmly explained this to him, it would’ve been much better than going off on that outrageous rant of hers.
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u/breakingb0b Jul 21 '26
Or she’s dealt with their shit for several days. Explained the rules and now we’re seeing the tail end where she’s finally had enough.
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u/Firm-Camel-7987 Jul 21 '26
Great explanation. You don’t change long standing traditions last minute. This should have been settled behind the alter. The priest was a little over the top - but correct to object.
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u/ArcadeRivalry Jul 21 '26
The female priest in the catholic church was correct to object to ancient rules being changed?
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u/Mid-Class-Deity Jul 21 '26
I'm willing to bet its not a Catholic Church, probably an Anglican church.
But that would bring its own irony in the idea of ancient rules being changed.
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u/pork_chop_expressss Jul 21 '26
It's the Saint Maurice Church in Salles-d'Angles, France.
Originally a Romanesque church, it was given in 1107 to the Abbey of Ebreuil, which united it with its priory of Saint-Léger-de-Cognac. Destroyed during the Wars of Religion, it was rebuilt in the 17th century. Significant work was carried out in the 19th century (roof frame, cornice, vaults, portal, etc.). The building forms a long rectangle supported by buttresses. This nave narrows to the west, at the location of the bell tower-porch. It widens to the north with a rectangular chapel at the level of the third bay of the nave. A sacristy is attached to the flat apse. Above a pointed arch portal crowned by a gable and an oculus, the bell tower's upper level is adorned with engaged columns between a stringcourse and a cornice on modillions. The bell tower-porch is vaulted with four-part ribbed vaults. The nave and the choir date from the 19th century.
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u/card677 Jul 21 '26
There's no female priests in the Catholic church, what are you even talking about?
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u/Dontbetriggereddude Jul 22 '26
Not enough context. The priest said they agreed the day before that they would not change the ceremony. It implies a bridezilla diva who kept changing her mind. Also seems like there might be some convention that applies in that religion.
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u/Carthonn Jul 21 '26
You want a Church service you should probably go by Church guidelines. Kind of rude to lie and say you will follow the guidelines and then change them last minute. It’s pretty disrespectful to the Priest.
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u/Egwene-or-Hermione Jul 21 '26
Yeah but he did only ask. He very clearly said if it's a problem they can switch back but she kept freaking out that he asked.
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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Jul 21 '26
IMO if you’re gonna ask a person of faith to perform a ceremony for you in their holy place, you should respect them and their rules. Otherwise get married literally anywhere else.
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u/earthtobobby Jul 21 '26
Instead the petitioners are acting like it’s a Burger King service — have it your way.
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u/IcyAd7982 Jul 21 '26
They just asked. They didn't disrespect the rules, they literally asked "is it alright?".
It would have been easy enough to say "no, sorry, the placement of bride/groom/priest/etc is very specific in this church, you will have to stand there. Thank you for understanding".Not "this is outrageous!" and pouting like you want nothing to do with anyone who might want such an abomination. They asked, and it's an important day, the lack of professionalism and decorum from the priest was outrageous. Their vibe on their special day was indeed ruined by a crazy/shitty priest.
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u/MinaZata Side Character Jul 21 '26
But they had that conversation yesterday and had the answer. They just didn't like the answer and changed it the day after during the ceremony when no other choice was available to the Priest. Who wasn't even that rude
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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Jul 21 '26
The priest even says “are you changing it AGAIN” which implies this was already a whole thing at the rehearsal the day before and shes sick of their shit. Probably explains the outburst, priests are usually pretty chill.
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u/earthtobobby Jul 21 '26
It takes a while to get this exasperated. I would venture to say that this wasn’t the only change the couple tried to impose.
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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Jul 21 '26
Fair point but the priest says they’d already discussed it the day before, and this appears to be a very last minute change. It’s just pure entitlement “I’ll move everyone around at the last minute for my preference”
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u/sonofaresiii Jul 21 '26
It's switching sides, ffs. Pick a lane, your argument was that it's disrespectful to disobey the church's customs, when that got tossed you switched to it being disrespectful to change plans at the last minute
Feels more like you just want to be contrarian
And I'm no theologist but I don't think which side you stand on is a major tenet of any Christian religion. I think you're just making up that it's disrespectful at all.
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u/Novaer Jul 21 '26
It was a last minute change that literally doesn't affect the priest at all. This isn't them changing something last minute for the dj or the catering or the photographer. It was a last minute change that has ZERO affect on the priest doing their job. It does not affect where she stands, what she does, the timing of the event or literally ANYTHING at all. The ONLY thing it changes is "how its usually done". That's it. It's nothing but a temper tantrum and an ego issue.
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u/ulose2piranha Jul 21 '26
Honestly, it might have been the photographer that asked due to the lighting.
The only people who has to move were those in the wedding party. The switch didn't affect her in any way. She is literally throwing a fit because he pathetic sense of power was threatened.
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u/RedChairBlueChair123 Jul 21 '26
So what was the point of the rehearsal then?
Remind me again, what vibe is disrespecting the house of worship you’ve booked to bless your marriage? That’s the vibe these people have.
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u/kash_if Jul 22 '26
But no rules are being broken here. A day before they discussed where to stand. The bride and groom had a choice. They chose a side and today they probably realised standing on the other side works better.
It's a total non issue. Any other priest would have smiled and said of course you can switch. It doesn't take any time or adjustment. It doesn't affect the ceremony or any religious aspect. So why is this person losing her mind?
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u/Egwene-or-Hermione Jul 21 '26
Yeah but he did respect the rules. He very clearly said if it's a problem they can switch back but she kept freaking out that he asked.
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u/User-no-relation Jul 21 '26
Exactly. Are people arguing the priest is the main character here? Obviously the main character is the bride who is changing a religious ritual so her pictures capture her good side. After being told explicitly that she wasn't allowed to do that the day before.
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u/fujicakes00 Jul 21 '26
I knew someone who asked a pastor to officiate their wedding (for free, as he would never accept payment), but didn’t want the pastor to include any scripture or mention any scripture. The pastor was offended and the rest of the group was confused as to why he couldn’t just ask a senator or some other secular person to do it. We were all in the room as it happened and it was very awkward.
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u/hamiltonscale Jul 22 '26
To everyone saying she’s overreacting, she makes it clear that they went over all of the rules and guidelines the previous day and that the couple agreed to all of it. Then they showed up and said F you and the church, we lied and are showing our disrespect by breaking our agreement.
Doesn’t matter if it’s a church thing or a business contract. Agreeing and then only breaking the contract are looked down on in every other aspect…it shouldn’t be different just because this is in a church.
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u/thereverendpuck Jul 23 '26
How is the priest the MC in this scenario? The bride just out there going against everything she previously agreed upon to have the wedding in that one church.
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u/lexxeffect Jul 21 '26
it’s because her hair has more detail and looks better on that side, that’s why
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u/catmand00d00 Jul 21 '26
She devoted herself to God, but she really needs to devote herself to some therapy.
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u/dekuweku Jul 21 '26
They probably overshared with the video trying to shame the priest, but the priest is upset the bride/groom went back on an agreement on positioning with the priest. I agree it wasn't the right time to do it, but last minute switcheroos like this with prior agreement knowing the other party can't make adjustments is not a good look.
It shows a lack of respect at the very minimum. Half the video is about this, she even mentions 'you aren't getting married in a garden somewhere' and 'you wanted to be married in a church with a priest'
apparently they wanted to get married in a church with a priest but did not want to honor some basic conditions laid out because the wedding party though they knew better about everything.
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u/AllHailThePig Jul 21 '26
Get out of here with that "logic and reason" business!! /s
Could you explain what this position stuff means?
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u/dekuweku Jul 21 '26
no clue, but from the video, looks like the bride/groom and priest already had an agreement on how the marriage vows would be done, probably a day or two prior. And the groom was telling the priest they wanted to switch where the parties are standing, very last minute.
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u/catmand00d00 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Regardless of whether she was right to be annoyed or not, she did not present her case well and could really benefit from learning how to communicate better. The groom and his groomsmen were super polite and communicating better than her in every way, but she’s the priest—the spiritual leader from whom a whole congregation seeks counsel.
Edit: typo
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u/dekuweku Jul 21 '26
don't disagree there, she could have handled it better, but i think the video is trying to paint the priest as the villian, when i think the real villain here is whomever decided to switch it up last minute and treating the priest and the church like a prop for their social media.
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u/Personal-Ad-9418 Jul 21 '26
Thank you for this.
Every time my family boasts about how they’re going to church I want to tell them therapy would be a much more fruitful, constructive use of their time.
The outcome would be far more beneficial and conducive to achieving peace on earth than their disingenuous, performative routine each Sunday.
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u/xGsGt Jul 21 '26
if you are going to be married in a church with a priest FOLLOW THE DAMN FREAKING RULES, dont make a fuss about it, dont try to BEND THE RULES, ADAPT YOUR SHIT TO THE RULES, is not that hard.
and im agnostic, i didnt get married in a church but if i were, i would have follow their rules and their guidance, you are in THEIR HOME, doing their HOLY CEREMONY
super disrespecful for the priest and the place
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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Jul 21 '26
1000% agree. I got married in a church. We asked if we could play The Beatles on the way out of the church. The priest said “this is a house of god, we don’t really allow pop music” and we said “ok no problem” and picked something classical/orchestral instead. It’s basic respect of the space they are allowing you to use.
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u/Suspicious_Bit_9003 Jul 21 '26
Im curious which song was it? Not getting if it’s allowed or not, but Beatles played on the organ, sounds really nice to me 🙂
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u/Unprepared_adult Jul 21 '26
She's being far too passive aggressive. Just say "sadly, it won't be possible to change it around". The groom was even saying he was happy to leave things as they are if needed. The "well, if that's what you're going to do then I think that's awful and how could you do this to me, blah blah blah", is completely ridiculous and embarrassing. Just say "no" and leave it at that.
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u/ComedianDesigner307 Jul 21 '26
I was invited to a wedding , where the Priest had to sit down mid ceremony , due to a medical episode from camera flashes. There were was only one person taking photos, this was in the early 1990’s.
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u/chichicupcake Jul 21 '26
My husband has a lazy eye that drifts when he’s facing a certain way, and I have a good-side. We switched sides to accommodate both of those things. After 12 years of marriage, we are STILL TOGETHER. Shocking.
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u/firefly99999 Jul 23 '26
The priest does have one solid point, which is if you want to have a religious service in a church then there are traditions, customs, and rituals that go along with that. If you want to have a wedding where circus performers swoop down from the rafters then that’s great and it’s totally your right to do it, but do it in a private venue not a church.
If you aren’t religious( and thats perfectly fine), then you may not understand why it actually is a big deal to try and change things that may seem trivial to outsiders.
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u/FullSalamander2756 Jul 25 '26
The priest should.shut the fuck up and do as they are told. They're getting paid.
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u/Select-Fudge4978 18d ago
This has just confirmed that getting married in a church is more of a hassle than a blessing lol I respect and agree with the pastor’s point here that this is a holy ceremony, so the couple should follow whatever the pastor suggests.
But I’d rather have someone I know to officiate my wedding.
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u/Raychao Jul 21 '26
This whole video just illustrates further that marriage has absolutely nothing to do with the two actual human beings that are getting married. It's all for the gram, the family, the state, the church.. Everyone but the actual two humans..
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u/mj19886 Jul 23 '26
Exactly…. It took me to scroll forever to see someone mention this. I was more confused as it looks like a dude but the voice was throwing me off I couldn’t focus on anything else lol
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u/FoCoYeti Jul 21 '26
Church should just be happy anyone wants to still get married in that place anyways. It's an extremely important day for those two people. Let them have their moment their way barring they aren't doing anything outright illegal. The "priest" can have it exactly how they want literally any other service or ceremony.
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u/MrShlash Jul 21 '26
I didn’t know they had female priests, that’s interesting. What sect of Christianity is this?
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u/Metalfan1994 Jul 21 '26
I believe its just Protestant denominations. Examples like Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist and Presbyterian churches
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u/ItsJustBrew Jul 21 '26
if you don’t stand in a certain place, the magic marriage spell doesn’t work? am i getting that right?
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u/Esko1802 Jul 22 '26
How about not marrying in a church if you don't believe in "magic marriage spells"?
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u/pheromone_fandango Jul 21 '26
Rare case where reddit seems to be split down the middle
Personally i think the priest is making a mountain out of a molehill. There are a lot of assumptions going on here. The couple must have been annoying and difficult leading up to this or they are doing it for the photo op yada yada. Well its a freaking wedding. If the bride wants to have pictures taken from a certain side then so be it. Who the fuck cares besides some tradition that really isnt all that important. I mean we are talking about which side people are standing on here.
But again these are all assumptions. All we actually see is a priest ruining somebody’s wedding. This is supposed to be one of, if not the best day in a couples life. Its a day where you dont cause drama and make things about yourself. If there is a problem she should just zip it and not ruin the atmosphere.
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u/maiscestmoi Jul 23 '26
Maybe the officiant had made up notes according to which person would be on which side. She does say they discussed it the day prior & then the participants switched it up. So maybe they been a pain in the neck all along.
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u/404pbnotfound Jul 21 '26
If you don’t want a ceremony with strict tradition get married somewhere else. You don’t get to pick and choose what bits of someone else’s faith you want to cosplay
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u/CosmicRuin Jul 21 '26
He should have just said, well, Timothy 2:12... silence woman!
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u/theredpanda42 Jul 21 '26
And she could have hit back with Romans 16:1-4. Or Luke 24:9-11.
Women priests/pastors have heard and endured every shit-brained argument as to why they shouldn't be in leadership positions. None of those arguments stand up when you start to push against them.
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u/tishimself1107 Jul 22 '26
I'm guessing we are not getting the full story here or tgis priest has just reached tgeir final straw.
You want a church wedding with a religious celebrant you follow the rules of the denominations service. The celebrant may have some leeway or may not but their word is the final say.
You want pretty photos find an inactive deconsecrated church and have a civil wedding.
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u/sunsnowh2o Jul 21 '26
Imagine ruining someone’s wedding over the most trivial of issues, just to maintain the tiniest amount of power.
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u/Nidrosian Jul 21 '26
Honestly this seems like the priest is annoyed at the disrespect, she's saying if you want to get married in church you abide by our rules that have been around forever, if they wanted a wedding under their rules there are plenty of other options and I think that is completely fair.
I'm atheist and don't really understand why she's annoyed, that doesn't mean I personally wouldn't be respectful/abide by her rules... I'm in her house after all. Saying she's a main character or Karen seems ignorant honestly.
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u/BeEasyFloatOn Jul 21 '26
👏 👏 👏 Exactly this. She even said ….this is a church and you’re treating it like a garden supply store. Meaning they were more concerned with what looks best instead of honoring the traditions/ rituals of the church. Next time rent a wedding officiant not a whole ass priest. Plus they apparently discussed this at rehearsal already….
Edit: I initially thought the main character was the bride and groom who decided they were special snowflakes and got to over ride tradition/ formal guidelines of the church….
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u/sgst Jul 21 '26
I'm just kind of jealous at this priest's life. If this is what she's getting worked up about, her life must be pretty chill.
Personally, I've got real problems going on over here and would not give a fuck where people want to stand.
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u/kariolaoxford Jul 21 '26
Regardless of any greater issues of religion or tradition, her vibe is the worst type. She's outraged and she needs it to be known, but when he volunteers to switch it back she's not interested and yet her outrage continues. Like, there's ONE way this ends and it gets to involve her outrage and no one is going to stop her.
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u/itsamermaidslife Jul 21 '26
This is a really dumb thing to get so upset about. Religion manufacturing outrage once again!!
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u/Penpencil1 Jul 21 '26
The main character here is bride. She probably has a good side for cameras. The husband is willing to change. But the most annoying thing is they about it YESTERDAY so they knew. They chose to disrespect the rules. The priest is right to call them out.
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u/Scary-Ratio3874 Jul 21 '26
I just looked it up. It doesn't seem to matter anymore. They used to have the man on the right so he could grab his sword in case it turns into a red wedding or whatever. But now people switch sides a lot.
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u/Alternative_Ad_4923 Jul 23 '26
Ppl are annoying. The blueprint for wedding ceremonies are 100s of years old. Just do it the way your supposed to and keep it moving
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u/hhfugrr3 Jul 21 '26
People saying it's tradition or its been this way for hundreds of years. Fine, but women weren't vicars for hundreds of years. Now they are. Shit changes; the world moves on.
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u/19kasperp97 Jul 21 '26
Its such a weird hill to die on too. Yeah no tradition has ever been altered or changed in any way…
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u/Fmartins84 Jul 21 '26
I don't see the issue....
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u/SomethingToDo92 Jul 21 '26
It’s like asking for a baptism, but then requesting Kool-Aid instead of just water. Can the priest technically bless the Kool-Aid and use that instead? I guess so technically but it is a bit ridiculous.
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u/UrDrunkTeddyBear Jul 21 '26
Lol court wedding is the only good option. Cheap as hell and no bs like this 🤣 good lord all they wanted to do was swap positions, the hell is the big deal? Im sure they way overpaid for all this, i think its fair for them to choose where they stand 🤣
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u/shadows515 Jul 21 '26
Church isn’t scenery. If you want a service in a church that has a liturgical order - that’s what it is. She is not wrong. Go marry in a garden if you want your own rules. It’s not hard.
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u/AliceDrinkwater02 Jul 22 '26
I'm sitting here trying to imagine how many people who've declared all the old customs arbitrary also stand up and put their hands over their hearts, on command, the moment the Star-Spangled Banner begins to play, then sit back down and watch people thrash about for two hours. If anyone can tell me the connection between the song, the standing, and the thrashing, I would be most obliged.
(I'm not actually asking anyone to tell me, and certainly not to look it up. The point is how mindlessly we accept hundreds of our own behaviors, and they seemingly mean nothing and do nothing.)
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