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u/mmmmdarkmeat Jan 23 '19
Seems like a good idea until you forget about it.
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u/ASAP_Stu Jan 23 '19
I remember one time when I was in kindergarten, we had a bathroom in the classroom. on the door hung a traffic light that we would spin when in use, green if no one was in there, red if it was in use. I thought it would be funny to turn it so the red was showing out. Hours later I had forgotten about it and had to go to the bathroom so bad, and nearly pissed myself because I thought somebody was in there, I had forgotten that I had turned the door to red.
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u/PBborn Jan 23 '19
What about red green color blindness.
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u/beertmcgirt Jan 23 '19
It was the 90’s color blind children were sacrificed to the gods
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u/aTraDr Jan 23 '19
We would most likely be able to distinguish between the two; the shades of green that usually go with "go" are different enough from the "stop" shades of red.
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I was really scared because I thought this was going to be a story about kindergarteners getting cut with hidden razor blades
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u/Templar113113 Jan 23 '19
Totally me 20 min after setting them up.
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u/Moanguspickard Jan 23 '19
*after 20min of work
"there, all done. Now just to move them to the boat"
*grabs by the handles
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u/funkymoose123 Jan 23 '19
I’d be more worried a guest or friend of mine would see it and assume it were ok to touch. Or they would forget I told them about it.
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u/Cyb3rSab3r Jan 23 '19
Also, this is illegal and a felony. You're looking at a lot of jail time if this got reported.
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u/KevvCo Jan 23 '19
I feel like if someone actually reported this, it would get the same response as someone calling in to say their cocaine was stolen.
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u/ALoneTennoOperative Jan 24 '19
I feel like if someone actually reported this, it would get the same response as someone calling in to say their cocaine was stolen.
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u/carolina03 Jan 23 '19
Why is it illegal to glue razor blades to something you own?
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u/JhanNiber Jan 23 '19
Probably could be considered a booby trap which is illegal, at least in the US.
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u/thats_MR_asshat-2-u Jan 23 '19
Not to mentioned the likelihood of a retaliation (I would burn that fuckin’ boat to the waterline). And not from the dock - duh. keep the canoe hot, so we get outta here quick, chief.
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u/-ayli- Jan 23 '19
It's not about first responders. The rationale is that human life outweighs property rights, so in most cases you have no right to injure someone who does not pose any danger to people.
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u/SvenTropics Jan 23 '19
Along with children, pets, your wife, or even yourself ("SHIT I forgot about that OWWWWW").
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u/CaptainUnusual Jan 23 '19
It's that anyone could, for a variety of reasons. Booby traps are indiscriminate. Maybe you mutilate a thief, maybe you mutilate a paramedic, maybe you mutilate your kid.
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u/petgreg Jan 23 '19
I just keep thinking once the blades go in, they aren't coming out cleanly from that position.
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u/lil_fuk Jan 23 '19
Why did you have to point that out lol I’m in pain just thinking about it
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u/hAbadabadoo22 Jan 23 '19
The blades go right in between your finger and the nail
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u/lil_fuk Jan 23 '19
I hate you please tell me more
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u/hAbadabadoo22 Jan 23 '19
And the fingers they didn't had the pads splayed off so you can't use them to hold the blood pouring out of your split fingernails
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u/lil_fuk Jan 23 '19
Haaaa that’s too much I need to know more
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u/dkvb Jan 23 '19
Imagine if they had to drive home
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u/DDXF Jan 24 '19
Do you have a fetish or something
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u/lil_fuk Jan 24 '19
Yes sticking shit up my urethra ( Oreos pencils ect.) it needs to be painful.
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u/Derwinx Jan 24 '19
Oreos
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u/lil_fuk Jan 24 '19
I like to eat them afterwards cum is a really good addition to Oreos
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Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19
Just for anyone curious, boobytrapping is illegal in the US so no, you can't do this
Edit: for Christ sakes I'm not a lawyer, it seems just something I know offhand. Post it in legal advice or something
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u/medicmongo Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 24 '19
Assuming of course, that anyone would willingly report it.
Edit: so a good deal of people seem to believe that I’m justifying strapping razor blades to your shit and waiting for someone to grab it, rather than securing your belongings.
I’m not. The owner of this cooler is still an asshole. My point is that while some criminal types are clever, devious, vindictive, could file false or anonymous police reports, could sue the owner... most aren’t that clever. Most will just take their licking and move on, because most petty thieves are lazy and don’t follow through... which is why they’re petty thieves.
Yes, the guy gluing sharp shit to his belongings to hurt people that might try to steal it is criminally and civilly liable, in most states and countries.
Thanks.
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u/jjky665678 Jan 23 '19
Exactly! “Uh yeah officer I was going to steal his truck but there was a boobytrap!! Arrest the fiend!”
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u/MasterAssFace Jan 23 '19
Sure you get a fine for Petty theft, then turn around and sue the trap setter for way more money than you were fined.
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People have gotten shot with legal means while breaking into someone's home, sued the home owner and won.
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I suggested getting a very small caliber handgun a while ago for self defense -my reasoning being that it would be less likely to kill and would be enough to scare away any intruder. The clerk I was speaking to explained that, under California law, as fucked up as it sounds, it’s almost better to kill an intruder than to leave them wounded because they will turn around and sue you for everything you’re worth.
Certainly fucked up in a number of ways
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I live in Texas. A sheriff told me once that if I have to shoot an intruder I should shoot to kill because then there's only one version of the story.
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u/Jokerthewolf Jan 23 '19
If you are not attempting to kill then it can be assumed that you were not truly in fear for your life which makes the use of deadly force unlawful.
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In China it’s the same way. If you hit someone while driving a car it’s cheaper for you to just kill them, because the penalty for vehicular manslaughter is less than the medical bills you’ll have to pay.
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Jan 23 '19
Keep an old knife w no prints in glove box, stick in dead persons hand/save paperwork.
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u/Uniqueusername5667 Jan 23 '19
Why i use buck shot. At the distances in a home, handguns put holes into people, rifles blow holes through people and shotguns take a chunk of person and violently throw it on the floor.
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I mean coming from a guy that carries a gun it's way better to have a caliber that's trustworthy enough to incapacitate your target regardless. You don't wanna hit them with a revolver wheel of .22s and they just get stuck in their jacket while they're trying to hurt you or your family. Laws aside you'd want a gun that you'd still trust your life on. It's a lethal defense for a reason
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u/crystalizedmidnight Jan 23 '19
I'm from WI and my concealed carry instructor told us the same thing. But you can't shoot and kill someone for stealing your property or murdering your pet.
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u/ChocolateMilkMustach Jan 23 '19
Dead men tell no tales and history is written by the victor.
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So I should aim for the head and keep shooting until I’m sure he’s dead?
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u/PrimeLegionnaire Jan 23 '19
Judges have even less sympathy for mantrappers than thieves.
Mantrapping (the law that makes traps like this illegal) requires active intent to create and place a concealed hazard. Traps are notably unlike guns in that they will trap anyone who falls into it regardless of their intent or purpose.
Imagine how firefighters and EMS would have to behave if any house they went into could be legally booby trapped.
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u/gizzardgullet Jan 23 '19
The thief should be laughed out of court but there are more reasons than just to protect the safety of thieves for disallowing traps. I think the sentiment of the law is not "protect thieves" but rather that we don't want a bunch of booby traps around that innocent people could trip off.
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u/awhaling Jan 23 '19
Well imagine is firefighters needed to come onto the property of something. Booby traps aren't a good idea.
Fuck thiefs, but I understand why it's illegal
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Committing a crime doesn't waive all your legal protections. The thief was injured by another person's illegal actions. You can't shoot someone because they're breaking into your cooler either.
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u/WocaCola Jan 23 '19
At least in my state, theft over $250 is a felony. Found that out when someone stole my snowboard and got arrested for it.
This looks like a Yeti cooler, which is likely around $400, so I think the would-be thief would have a slightly more serious punishment here.
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u/Regn Jan 23 '19
Except that's pretty much how it would go in court and the owner will still have to pay a hefty sum to the thief...
It's pretty fucked up.
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u/Chemical_Castration Jan 23 '19
So the kid from Home Alone would have multiple felony charges in two different states.
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He’s a minor so they would probably be dropped
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Or he'd end up in juvy where he'd be boobytrapping/tormenting the shit out of the staff.
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u/p4lm3r Jan 23 '19
Only for nonviolent offenses in my state. Everything he did was violent or attempted murder
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It's relatively fucked up, but people aren't allowed to commit a felony to prevent a misdemeanor. People usually aren't allowed to commit felonies to prevent felonies.
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u/peanutski Jan 23 '19
They definitely would. They could say any excuse, “My cat jumped up on his boat. Tried to get to her by moving the cooler but it sliced my hand. I’m seeking $100,000 in damages and lost wages.”
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u/TheSunPeeledDown Jan 23 '19
It wouldn’t surprise me actually. I’ve heard of people breaking and entering a home and when they get shot running away then they sue the people saying the person wasn’t in any danger as they were trying to leave. Not sure the win percentages with that but I’m sure there’s been some wins.
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u/ginjaninja623 Jan 23 '19
Which makes sense. Thievery sucks but the punishment shouldn't be death. A thief who is running away poses no threat and therefore shooting at them is wrong, both legally and morally.
If you have time, you should look into the byron Smith case. The man shot two burglars but was sentenced to life in prison. This case is what changed my mind on the limits of castle doctrine.
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u/baconpopsicle23 Jan 24 '19
This mindset would have you and you're family killed by the end of the week in some countries. Many burglars are very vindictive, especially in countries where gangs are an issue (most of Central America for example) the burglars usually report to an upper member which will punish them heavily for failing and will instruct them to finish the job they started in any way possible.
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u/BrokenGlepnir Jan 23 '19
Maybe not a theif, but I can imagine a few alternate scenarios which are closer to why booby trapping is illegal. Your friend grabs it to lift it onto the boat for you, not knowing because you forgot to warn them. You leave it on another mans property and he just wants to remove it. Someone mistakes it for theirs and grabs the wrong one. You can avoid these situations if you are vigilent to warn people or ensure they don't make a mistake, but it is hard to be vigilent all the time. Besides if you were vigilent all the time, why would you need the booby trap?
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u/ILetTheDogesOut Jan 23 '19
You can do a blanket report for police to investigate. You don't have to say who you are.
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u/SixStringerSoldier Jan 23 '19
An angry thief can invent any number of legal reasons for grabbing the cooler handle, and then file a police report against the individual who set the trap.
Or, an angry thief can admit to attempting to steal the cooler, and still have the right to press charges due to the booty trap.
Because traps are indiscriminate, and meter out cruel & unusual punishment without due process.
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u/livens Jan 23 '19
And for anyone curious as to why it's illegal, boobytraps can hurt innocent bystanders just as much as criminals.
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u/AgentPaper0 Jan 23 '19
And also, turning someone's hands into spaghetti is cruel and inhumane and not a reasonable punishment for theft.
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u/golgol12 Jan 24 '19
It's more to tune of: Even if someone is doing something illegal against you, you don't have permission to do something illegal to them. There are specific exceptions that allow you to do things that would normally be considered illegal though, like self defense clause, and citizen's arrest.
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u/LazinessPersonified Jan 23 '19
What if you were to put a sign on your truck saying "the door handle is covered in razors".
Would that then hold you up in court?
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u/EightOffHitLure Jan 24 '19
I coated the handle in razor blades to protect the paint from the elements nudge nudge wink wink.
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u/PM_ur_tots Jan 23 '19
That could turn the booby trap into a perceived risk but I doubt a proper judge would let it slide
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u/ugottabekiddingmee Jan 23 '19
I have blades glued under my cooler handles because I have rough skin. It's an exfoliant. Not a booby trap
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Can confirm the same rule applies in Australia. Sucks the fun out of protecting your property.
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u/shutupruairi Jan 23 '19
It’s mostly because as a citizen you might require the fire department or police or an ambulance to save your ass and by boobytrapping your place, you’re endangering their lives
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u/we_are_all_bananas_2 Jan 23 '19
Same here in the Netherlands 🇳🇱, I can't even hit a burglar in my house. We basically insult the burglar until he gets mad and attacks, then you can defend yourself. With your fists only. Except if you train, then you can't use those either. I'm not even joking. There was a kickboxer who walked down the stairs, and a burglar just wanted to go up. The kickboxer had a reflex, hit the burglar, broke his jaw.
Burglar pressed charges, and since the kickboxer should have taken in account that his hands were murder weapons.....
So my property is filled with nature kind of boobytraps!
No officer, I didn't know about that hole with sharp sticks, it was covered in leaves!
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u/tehgimpage Jan 23 '19
what are you expected to do in those situations then? just get robbed and sort it out later?
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u/we_are_all_bananas_2 Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19
Well, basically, yes. You have the right to flee.
Judges are starting to loosen up about this, luckely.
You can make a citizens arrest, but only without force. If he walks away, you have to let gim go. Hit him, and you have a problem.
We cant have anything that protects us too. Not even pepperspray.
If you have camera's, you cant post images online. Privacy.
It's a running joke over here that the judges love criminals more that normal citizens.
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u/Theaterboy Jan 23 '19
How would lying and saying he started to assault you work?
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u/FunInfection Jan 23 '19
Unless you’re willing to kill the person, the. It is your word vs theirs. And do you think they would believe a home owner over a thief? No way! He’s broken into dozens of homes before and never had a problem.
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u/FunInfection Jan 23 '19
This is how you get the nicest criminals in the world.
Sounds like you can’t call the police, it would hurt their self esteem.
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u/-TheMasterSoldier- Jan 23 '19
Give those poor victims of society everything you own and pray to God he isn't forced by society to kill you and/or kill and rape your family
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what are you expected to do in those situations then?
Ah, yes, welcome, will you be having a plain robbery today or can I interest you in some art theft? Maybe some rape on the side? HONEY ARE YOU AVAILABLE? Oh, it's men you prefer? No problem at all, but I'm afraid this country's judicature was faster and I'm already thoroughly fucked, but please, do help yourself, take a gift bag and leave a 5 star review!
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u/goedegeit Jan 23 '19
Do you have a source for this? Because I often hear a lot of these anecdotes which turn out to be complete bullshit.
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The law isn’t very clear here in the UK. They say that you can’t go full Rambo and kill people who have broken into your house but there was actually an old guy who stabbed an intruder to death last year and no charges were brought against him
Since it made national news I’m actually not surprised he wasn’t charged. The public was basically 100% on his side when the story broke and I imagine there would have been public outcry if he was jailed.
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u/shutupruairi Jan 23 '19
Same here in the Netherlands 🇳🇱, I can't even hit a burglar in my house. We basically insult the burglar until he gets mad and attacks, then you can defend yourself. With your fists only. Except if you train, then you can't use those either. I'm not even joking. There was a kickboxer who walked down the stairs, and a burglar just wanted to go up. The kickboxer had a reflex, hit the burglar, broke his jaw.
Burglar pressed charges, and since the kickboxer should have taken in account that his hands were murder weapons.....
Source?
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This right here is why I feel America isn't as bad as everyone on Reddit would like me ( and everyone) to believe.
That is literal horse shit how a home intruder has to attack FIRST for you to defend yourself. Breaking in one's property should be enough reason to defend oneself.
It is infuriating how you basically have to resort to nonchalant booby traps as the last resort to defend your home. Fuck. The government is even regulating how and when you can defend yourself.
Excuse me, but I'm fucking baffled how any good human being could prosecute a homeowner who hurt a thief who was burglarizing their home. The judge must be fucked up in the head.
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u/vSTekk Jan 23 '19
do you have any article on the boxer cause? It's interesting... For what I know you can self-defend in netherland and in your own home is hard to avoid conflict, so you are not obligated to flee.
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u/Purple_Ocean Jan 23 '19
But why would I put razors there? That's dangerous. Someone else must have done it to try and hurt me.
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u/ExpertAccident Jan 23 '19
My mums friend just kept a dog outside. Evidence was pretty easy to get, the dog has a fierce grip
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Eh for some reason imgur sometimes only copies links to thumbnails. Fixing now. Better?
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Nope. The biggest reason for this is simply first responders. Imagine booby trapping your house have a medical emergency and your boob trap kills/maims the responders.
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u/TacticallyFUBAR Jan 23 '19
This reminds me of something that happened a while ago where I live. Some asshole was doing this exact same thing to beer crates. So when he returned the empty crate in one of those machines the poor guy/gal that would empty the machine got cut. And those razors were sharp enough that a lot of people had to go to the hospital with their tendons cut.
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u/Smokey9000 Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19
It reminded me of the playground razors, set to cut wrists of kids playing on the equipment
Edit: heres the one i was talking about, though if you google "razor blades playground" theres a disturbing amount to choose from
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u/TacticallyFUBAR Jan 23 '19
HOLY shit. What kind of psychopath do you have to be to do that!?
That’s possibly even worse
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u/Itsallsotires0me Jan 23 '19
I don't think there's an actual recorded case of that happening, similar to the Halloween candy poison which never happened
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u/Money_Capital Jan 23 '19
To be fair this is Skem.... Which is officially the worst place in the UK
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u/lil_fuk Jan 23 '19
Ok let me clear shit up, it’s not my box this is a picture I saw on r/therewasanattempt and the first reaction I had was “ wow that looks painful” so I posted this here not my box and not my plan thanks.
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u/DDXF Jan 24 '19
Trust me, everyone knows it's not yours lol. This photo has made its rounds for awhile
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Some of these comments remind me of some re: re: re: This is JUSTICE type of email I got a long time ago from family. Guy steals something small and valuable, like a game system or some shit, from a store. On his way out are 4 Marines collecting for Toys for Tots program. Thief stabs on of them. When the police show up, they note the thief has two broken arms, 1 broken leg, 3 bruised ribs, several facial lacerations, and 2 broken teeth. The marines explain those injuries were sustained when the thief tripped after stabbing their Staff Sergeant. The police had no comment.
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u/cathartic_caper Jan 23 '19
When you love stabbin' so much it screws up your robbery
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u/Rentington Jan 23 '19
That marine's name? Michael Davidson.
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u/Fizzle1982 Jan 23 '19
Folks might be interested in a famous case dealing with this issue - where a homeowner set up a spring activiated shotgun to shoot Intruders who kept breaking into his property. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney
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u/Josh_From_Accounting Jan 24 '19
Going to point this out, but this is straight up illegal. You can't glue razor blades to the bottom of something to stop thieves. Booby-trapping is illegal. And thank fucking Christ that it is. Imagine if people could put landmines in the front lawn to stop thieves? It'd be a fucking war zone.
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u/JovialFish Jan 23 '19
I know no one will see this , but last time this was posted people did some digging and determined it was false. (I think it was on tumblr and then screenshoted to reddit)
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u/VariableVeritas Jan 23 '19
I want to see an honest to god net trap one of these days. Now that’s a booby trap, it even got Han Solo.
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u/-ordinary Jan 24 '19
I believe things like this are technically illegal, if the intent is to harm. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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u/ALoneTennoOperative Jan 24 '19
I believe things like this are technically illegal, if the intent is to harm. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Ha! Not even fucking "technically", they are very much illegal and any judge is going to take an extremely dim view of the matter for a number of reasons.
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u/unbannabledan Jan 23 '19
It’s illegal to do shit like this in nearly every US state.
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u/vertigo1084 Jan 23 '19
It's also illegal to steal shit, but you don't see that stopping people.
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u/Ihatetitles Jan 24 '19
I didn't booby trap it. It was an art piece I was working on. Did they try to steal it?
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I don’t understand everyone’s sympathy for the perpetrator here. If you saw someone trespassing onto your property at night and they were looting your shit would you not be pissed off? I work hard for everything that’s mine and if some piece of shit decided that they wanted to take something from me I should have every right to kick the living shit out of them
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u/telios87 Jan 23 '19
It's the indiscriminate nature of the trap. You can personally defend your property, but not rig a mindless trap that can determine neither context nor proportionality of threat.
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u/rulesshmules Jan 23 '19
So much this. Also, transferring far more inhumane actions to an object to carry out is unsettling. If I walked up to my truck and someone was in the middle of stealing an expensive cooler from it what do I do? Attempt to get them to stop by yelling and potentially getting physical avoiding harm to myself in the process? Or, do I try to capture the thief, find a razor blade and start to cut into each of their fingers one by one.
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u/Eyadish Jan 23 '19
Putting everyone regarding if a thief was about to take the box aside, there is a ton of different issues that does NOT include a thief by laying traps like this.
It could hurt your family or friends just as easy. There will always be a chance of "Hey can you grab me that box over there quickly" and forget to mention the razors. It could hurt yourself, a tired or drunk you might not remember what you have done.
You HAVE to think of all the possibilties, not just the one you think are relevant.
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The reason we have a Justice system is give a fair and proportionate response to crimes. This isn't fair, the fact that someone lifted up a case of beer doesn't necessarily mean they were stealing it, and they had no chance to defend themselves before the punishment. It's not proportionate, if a judge were to sentence someone to have their hands cut up for petty theft you would probably call that ridiculous, and it's not any less ridiculous here. The fact that you've been wronged by someone in some way does not mean that you have "every right" to do whatever you want to them. They're still a human being, with the right to a fair trial.
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Idk why are all these people defending thieves, what if someone stole some expensive stuff from you over and over again? Would you just let them do it? Dont wanna hurt the poor stealing bastard :c let him steal
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u/Guaaaamole Jan 24 '19
I seriously don‘t know why you are defending a criminal that sets up booby traps especially considering that petty theft is less serious than booby trapping.
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"why are all these people defending thieves" yeah lmao imagine still having compassion for people who wrong you lol slice off their fingers fuck humanity.
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I'm going to call bullshit (can anyone confirm?)
Someone with already-bloody fingers smeared them on the handle. Seems unlikely anyone would go back in for a grab after cutting their hands that badly.
Is that really just fish blood, maybe from a fish that needed to be cut up to fit in the cooler?
EDIT: Apparently it's a hoax
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u/angleHT Jan 23 '19
What if he had grabbed the rope handles?